mr. buck advantage right now. both of you under 50%. so, a lot on the line here. mr. buck, let me start with you. you do have tea party backing. the tea party is a major movement in this campaign, sharron angle, christine o'donnell getting a lot of headlines in delaware. the question is whether the tea party represents an extreme, insurgent political force or whether it's a legitimate political movement. what do you say? >> i think it's a legitimate political movement. what we're talking about are folks that are frustrated, that we are spending so much money in washington, d.c. and they're every bit as frustrated with republicans as they are with the democrats. the republicans are every bit as much to blame for the mess that we're in as the democrats. that frustration has exhibited itself in a lot of energy. folks are not going to try to send the same type of republican to washington, d.c. that they've sent in the past. so i think it is a lot more mainstream than it has been. >> at that point,

mr. ken buck. what changes to tax policy would you support to promote certainty, investment, job growth, and deficit reduction? >> i would absolutely do away with the 1099 provisions that were hidden in the health-care bill. i'd think they were incredibly onerous on our small businesses. they place a burden on the small businesses when they need to expand. what we need to do it ultimately is habitats code that is simple and efficient. -- a tax code that is simple and in addition. we need to reduce the burden on businesses who need to find out exactly what their tax that is going to be. >> we need a tax code and regulatory code that supports job creation in the united states and does not inspire companies to ship jobs overseas. i agree with what my opponent just said. for 18 months he ran a campaign that said we should get rid of our corporate taxes altogether, cut income taxes altogether, and instead have a national sales tax that will increase taxes on people by 23%. as we think about how to innov

mr. buck has changed his position on the personhood amendment on the ballot in colorado. mr. d supporting that legislation actually help him in the republican primary? >> i think people think that it did. he was definitely trying to be aggressive in going after the base voters that would come out for the primary. since then he's tied himself in knots a couple times trying to explain where he feels about it and finally come to the conclusion he's not going to talk about that amendment and his final conclusion is that he won't give his opinions about statewide opinions in colorado. people say, this was on the ballot in 2008 as well, exact same proposed legislation and what did you think about it then? his response is i don't talk about what i did in 2008 or how i felt about the amendments in 2008 either. so he's kind of stuck now in that position of not commenting. and so there have been a couple different positions on that. bennett is hitting hard on that, not so much in person yet but in the ads he's running and outside groups are running. that question has come up in a very t

mr. buckht race. there has been a lot of money. i did not expect as much as we got, but this is a key race. i think the issues are pretty much what we expected the issues to be. we have talked about the jobs and the economy and spending, and these are the issues that i think are important to those in colorado, so i think that is important. >> all right, thank you. senator bennet? >> i have traveled about 30,000 miles around the state and have had the privilege of being at town hall meetings. what is happening to our working families, our middle class caylee's, who are going through the most savage economy since the great depression. i have been surprised that there has been so much outside money spent in this race, especially on the other side, and i hope to be able to go back to washington to make sure we can get these disclosures of them to make sure we can know who is trying to buy these races. >> all right, thank you both. let's get into the particulars of the issues. joining me is a clini

mr. buck for his handling of a rape case as the district attorney. >> ken buck thinks he is more qualified because he is not a woman. this coming from a d.a. who refused to prosecute and admitted it races -- admitted rapist saying he had a buyer's remorse. >> that at would have us believe you are a sexist. >> there is a line, even in politics, but you don't cross. that line has been crossed in this case. the paper called this and add an active idiotic political malice. my office is tough on the prosecution of crimes against women, rapes, and domestic violence. we had a huge success rate, we had a 192-year sentence against brendan bradshaw in a rape case, five life sentences in rape cases. this case is abnormal on -- this case is abnormal. but to use this story for political gain is a sad commentary. >> senator bennett, your bottle? >> @ think what is crossing the line is being prosecutor and describing a victim in a rape case as having buyer's remorse, whether you ultimately prosecuted or not.

mr. ken buck. what changes to tax policy would you support to promote certainty, investment, job growth, and deficit reduction? >> i would absolutely do away with the 1099 provisions that were hidden in the health-care bill. i'd think they were incredibly onerous on our small busesses. they place a burden on the small businesses when they need to expand. what we need to do it ultimately is habitats code that is simple and efficient. -- a tax code that is simple and in addition. we need to reduce the burden on businesses who need to find out exactly what their tax that is going to be. >> we need a tax code and regulatory code that supports job creation in the united states and does not inspire companies to ship jobs ovseas. i agree with what mypponent ju said. for 18 months he ran a campaign that said we should get rid of our corporate taxes altogetr, cut income taxes altogether, and instead have a national sales tax that will increase taxes on people by 23%. as we think about how to innovate in the

we'll talk to mr. buck about the campaign's final weeks.ore on these and the rest of the day's top political news on the top of the hour on america's election headquarters. >>> talk about taxpayers and consumers being taken for a ride. the "wall street journal" reporting saying using taxpayers green to go green will payoff, turns out chevy is more like a hybrid nan a true electric car. tracy says it is great news. why? >> because it will force us to stop dumping money into stuff we don't fully understand. we don't know if this stuff is gonna, if it is going to help the economy or the atmosphere or anything at the end. stop putting my tax dollars in a place where it doesn't belong. unless you tell met facts. gm didn't tell me the facts, i don't want my money there. >> they actually lied. if i lied to my investors the way that gm in my opinion lied to the president, to the country the volt is not an all-electric car what have we funded for 50 billion dollars, a 41,000 car that only seats four, takes premium gas. for what? if it is going to su

mr. buck's comments.ing about protecting social security for seniors and it says we should be able to will our benefits should we die before collecting on them. on student loans, he was not opposed to the loans. them in the hands of the federal government. how do you defend these claims? >> again, i have great sympathy for you in the job you're doing because every time i come to the debate, i feel like i'm debating ken buck 1.0 and the ken buck2.0. he said many times he is against that and either one was fundamentally against what he believed. those are his words, not mine. with respect to student loans, he said the founding fathers did not intend for us to have to the loans. he said americans were going to have to "wean themselves off of student loans." i can give you all this in chapter and verse, but it is the consequence of him having run an entirely different race in the republican primary and he is trying to run in the general election. -- than he is trying to run in the general action. >> here is a

mr. buck won the coin toss. he elected to go second. >> all like to thank you for putting this debate on. i am very grateful. it is important for your viewers to be able to see it. we are facing enormously difficult economic times in this country. we have a run rate deficit and runaway debt. i believe we can come together, roll up our sleeves. we need to forget about ideologies and focus on pragmatic problem-solving. that is what i have done my entire career. i think that having experienced in the private sector and working in tough government situations at the local level give me a totally different perspective than 99% of the senators in d.c. i will do absolutely everything to make sure we are not part of the first generation of america to left these problems for our kids and grandkids. >> we have a great opportunity to choose between repeating our mistakes and creating a state and a country that our kids and grandkids would not want to live in. we all protested when the congress ran up more and more debt. as

mr. buck thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. >> let's start with your mainline of attack about senator bennet, he says, contrary to what you claim, he has opposed much of the obama agenda. >> yeah, michael bennet is a rubber stamp for president obama's agenda. voted for the health care bill, auto bailouts, the stimulus. he's hand picked by president obama. president obama offered his primary opponent three jobs to get him out of race. michael bennet owes president obama for where he is right now. unfortunately, he's not representing california values in washington, d.c.. >> on the other hand senator bennet says you have flipped on some of your positions. , you called social security a horrible program. said the federal department of education isn't necessary. do you or don't you stand on those positions? >> what i've said in 18 months on the campaign trail with the camera on me everyday, is that it is a horrible policy to take the money out of the social security trust fun in the 60s

. >> so this victim, alleged victim came to the prosecutor at the time, mr. bucknd it never went anywhere? >> right. well, he actually convinced her in a tape -- in the audiotape that she released, he convinced her over and over again that her case wasn't worth it and at one point said that this entire case would go public and that that she should be ashamed of it and basically go away. so as a prosecutor, he was not acting as a rape victim advocate. he was actually acting more like a defense attorney. he was attacking her and blaming her. >> is he anti-woman? i mean is that the case that your group is trying to make? >> well, i think that this is a long line of offenses that we have seen from ken buck. he had had the high heels come, where he was at an event, asked why people should vote for him and he said, well, you know, because i don't wear high heels. then he is recently been very strong in his support for banning abortions in the cases of rape and incest. >> yeah. >> and now you get the facts behind this case and i think -- >> how is the alleged rain victim

there's a debate tonight there with michael bennett, ken buck. mr. speaker, first you. how comfortable with mainstream republicans with some of the tea party candidates? >> first of all you're in colorado. and it can be very divisive state. you have a lot of moderates, and you have an awful lot of conservatives. i think buck does appeal to conservatives, and to an extent the middle. >> the key to bennet is that he did much better in the primary than people thought he would do. he's turn out to be a decent candidate even though he's never run for anything before. colorado has gone democratic in the last couple of elections. this thing is very much up for grabs. bennet has a real shot at winning, and it's just a question of, do people in colorado get embarrassed by some of the tea party stands that other tea party candidates have taken around the country, and do they take another look at the republicans and say, well maybe we don't want a tea party guy representing us? >> let me show you a little bit more about what happened when christine o'donnell in delaware went out c

mr. miles can tell you that you can play buck hunter with other people online at the same time in other bars. do you know this? i would love to play. but i want to clarify -- vice chair joseph: it's like a trivia game. you can compete against other bars. >> i just wanted to bring it to your attention for discussion. i think just so we don't get out of order. why don't we ask mr. miles if he has anything to say and then we can go into that discussion. >> i've been in front of you guys for a lot more complex things. this is kind of an easy one. we have a video game and we need a permit. any questions, i'll entertain any questions. vice chair joseph: i want to make sure that i'm clear. you give your customers a con sole, you have screens up there and they play on the console onto the screen -- >> no, it's like a pac man. you go up, put the quarters in and just -- vice chair joseph: this he can play against people in ohio? >> typically people don't go up and play it. it's just a video game. vice chair joseph: but you intend to be online? >> it's online, yeah. vice chair joseph: so what happens i

hey, we have to buck up, get after it, be inexcusable not to get involved. i get all of that. but mr. president, from a lefty, and from someone who has done a lot of town hall meetings, i really do, i think you need to talk straight to the unemployed, a special message that, whereas the congress has given up on them, you haven't. it'll make a difference. joining me now is senator who is fighting for the 99ers from rhode island, senator sheldon whitehouse. good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks, ed. thanks for what you're doing. >> well i think it's important to speak to 15 million americans who don't have a job that are wondering, now where do we go? what would you say to those people? >> i think we need to keep fighting as har as we can. i think that you've identified the issues very well. the thing that's most upsetting about all of this is hearing the folks on the other side say you know, ending unemployed insurance for these folks that's the kind of spur it will take to get them back to work, as if they were lazy, as if a job waiting for them. the president's recovery bill b

mr. dobbs can provide us for an answer to is where does the buck stop? i mean, lou made himself an emblem to this approach to immigration and he has not actually responded to the substantive evidence i present that there were at least five undocumented workers who cared for his show jumping horses and who cared for the grounds of his estate in florida. >> lou, undocumented workers, caring for your horses and the grounds of your home. >> what isabel forgot to put in her story was the fact that the head of north run stables, which is by 22-year-old daughter's horses are all legal and have been for several years in every case. and i'm an emblem of what? i've been working very hard for the past year trying to come up with a compromise on illegal immigration, border security amongst all faction, trying to put straightforwardly out there is -- as she agreed on my broadcast, i never hired an illegal alien. she's leaped on this to prove that i'm some sort of hypocrite. it's astounding. i have never hired an illegal immigrant, nor has any company that i own. and

mr. giannoulias, two areaof the democratic party you don't agree with, where you buck your party?opportunity, i think. i would have loved to have seen increased access to capital requirements for banks to lend money out. we fought and saved jobs, one of the things we did was go after wells fargo and said you can't let this company falter or fail. you kn, the congressman always uses the word independent. the truth is the only thing he has been independent of in this race is the truth. this is an incredibly important race. we need fresh leadership, new ideas. we need to help create jobs. people in illinois are getting crushed, crushed by is recession. washington, d.c., isn't working. and my question is why in the world would we send the same people who created this mess back to washington, d.c.? that's why the people of illinois need some new ideas and fresh voices. >> the debe will continue. the campaign will continue in crunch time no good luck to both of you. thank you for sharing your views th us here this morning on "meet the press." we'll be watching closely, of course. >>> co

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mr. clean disinfecting bathroom cleaner. >> and is barney caught with his hand in the bailout cookie jar. and plus, the political >> bailout news. sparking new calls to stop bailed out banks from handing o bailout buckses and execs taking tarp funds after primming i will not take any bank funds from those who took bailout funds. they've all been taking tarp bank paths and-- >> february 23rd '09, not taking it, and here it is, bank of america, bank of new york, u.s. bancorp, he took it as soon as that race started getting tight and said, well maybe this one time. >> brenda: all right. anything wrong with it? >> well, in general, no, i mean, this is the same as if exxon gave money to a senator that helped them clear oil drilling rights. in general, i don't have a problem with it. >> brenda: regina what about you. >> i don't think any lawmaker, whether congress or a local legislator. bp, halliburton, doesn't matter, shouldn't take it. >> brenda: and bob, you think this should be outlawed, plain and simple. >> not so much because of the government money aspect. if you're on a committee that regulates an industry, i don't think you should be able to take money from an industry and i don't think that after

mr. obama scolded dis-- voters saying the idea people are sitting on their hands complaining is irresponsible. people need to buck part of the problem experts say the jobless rate that remains high despite nearly a trillion in deficit spending. there's health care reform that doesn't seem to have energized mr. obama's supporters as much as it angered his critics. the president's star has fallen, giving him a high profile role in the midterm elections could carry a price. >> there's some risk in having barack obama out there talking about why people have to vote. there are going to be independents, swing voters who are going to be reminded this election is about president obama. >> reporter: since the election is not about reelecting president obama it is unclear whether his personal appeal will work to get people under 30 to what older people are more inclined to see as their duty and what his critics are inclined to see as a chance for pay back. >> uma: joining us lisa, chair of the young republican national federation with rod president of the young democrats of america joining us. welcome to the two of you, ni

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buck to a bureaucrat. he should become involved as i did and try to solve the problem. >> next question deals with health care and it's to you, mr. sandoval. nevada has a high percentage of uninsured residents which costs all taxpayers money. do you favor the continuing effort to repeal the national health care law? if so, what solutions do you have for the insured who are working people making too much for medicaid but not enough to afford health care insurance? if you support health care reform, how will you propose we pay for the increased costs for nevada? >> first i'd like to comment on the last response to my opponent with regard to giving things to bureaucrats. we have laws for a reason. we have laws for certainty. we need to have a state water engineer who has the ability who has the background, who has the experience to consider some of these -- the most difficult decisions that will face the people of the state of nevada and something as sensitive as water. so i trust the process. with regard to your question, i do support the health care law -- or i don't support the health care bill. i do support the litigation that

mr. sheheen? >> i will aggressively use incentives to recruit business and industry into south carolina. i want to make sure those incentives give the bang for their buck. right now we have been allowing other states to out-recruits south carolina. we used to be a model for economic development and recruitment in the southeast. right now we are the best thing other states have going for that. i will change that. i thought bringing boeing in was the most important economic development vote that we had in our generation. i was there that day, representative haley was not there for that vote. even up in the pee dee and the midland's in kershaw county where i live, we are aggressively using economic development -- >> thank you, senator byrd next question is from jackie torok to senator sheheen. >> senator sheheen, there have been calls for attorneys to serve in the state legislature like yourself to recuse themselves from votes that have a direct impact on their paychecks. how can you reassure citizens that your actions as governor will not be a conflict of interest? >> once i am governor, i will not be practicing law anymore. right now, we have a legislat

buck, and what we've done in the city of lansing, we can do in the state of michigan. >> gentlemen, this issue of outsourcing jobs to china is now dominating two elections in michigan. mrnero, i want to ask you first, can michigan and its businesses play in a global marketplace without engaging china? >> well, engaging china is one thing, and shipping jobs and r&d -- the important thing about this discera position is they're shipping r&d, they're actually helping vital r&d, moving that and helping china to be on the cutting edge, not just shipping jobs there. look, it's a global economy, we have to operate as a global economy. in lansing we are competing and winning. we've grown manufacturing, advanced manufacturing , every month this year. we've recently, in fact it will be voted on monday night at council, secured 160 new jobs for a medical manufacturing company, symmetry medical. we were competing with indiana and malaysia, indiana and malaysia? but we won those jobs in lansing, michigan, so i know we can compete and win. now, regardless of the fact that rick snyder, my opponent, told the grand rapids press that manufacturing should be put to bed, i don't agree with

buck. what we have done in the city of lansing we can do in the state of michigan. >> this issue of outsourcing jobs to china has dominated two elections in michigan. mr. benero, i ask you first, can michigan and its businesses play in the global marketplace without engaging china? >> well, engaging china is one thing, and shipping jobs and r&d -- the important thing about this disera position is they are shipping r&d. they are moving that and helping china to be on the cutting edge. it's a global economy. we have to operate in a global economy. in lansing, we are competing and winning. we have grown manufacturing, advanced manufacturing every month this year. we recently, it will be voted on monday night at council, secured 1 0 new jobs for a medical manufacturing company. we were competing with indiana and malaysia. but we won those jobs in lansing, michigan. i know we can compete and win. regardless, the fact that rick snyder, my opponent, told the press manufacturing should be put to bed, i don't agree. i think manufacturing was a great part of our past and also a vibrant part of our future. the green automotive future. we can be in the business of

buck, and what we've done in the city of lansing, we can do in the state of michigan. >> gentlemen, this issue of outsourcing jobs to china is now dominating two elections in michigan. mr. benero, i want to ask you first, can michigan and its businesses play in a global marketplace without engaging china? >> well, engaging china is one thing, and shipping jobs and r&d -- the important thing about this discera position is they're shipping r&d, they're actually helping vital r&d, moving that and helping china to be on the cutting edge, not just shipping jobs there. look, it's a global economy, we have to operate as a global economy. in lansing we are competing and winning. we've grown manufacturing, advanced manufacturing , every month this year. we've recently, in fact it will be voted on monday night at council, secured 160 new jobs for a medical manufacturing company, symmetry medical. we were competing with indiana and malaysia, indiana and malaysia? but we won those jobs in lansing, michigan, so i know we can compete and win. now, regardless of the fact that rick snyder, my opponent, told the grand rapids press that manufacturing should be put to bed, i don't agree

mr. chairman. >> that really creates a conundrum. we have two things working against each other here. on one hand, with a series of policies that have been rated in terms of bang for the buck. extending the tax cuts is among the weakest in terms of helping to boost economic growth although it is positive. extending tax cuts would have a mild positive affect short-term, but it would have a negative effect long term because of the deficit financing just as additional spending would be negative long-term. >> yes, that is right. the effects are rather some magic. we have written on a number of occasions that the policies that lead to a short-term boost like higher spending or lower taxes is not accompanied by other offsetting changes over time. it will have negative effects of overtime in the medium and long run. >> for many people it is counterintuitive that tax cuts could somehow hurt future economic growth. how was that? why is it that in your analysis tax cuts could actually be harmful to long-term economic growth? >> in actual and tuition -- the natural and tuition in thinking that if their tax rates were lower it would give people an incentive to work more, save more, in