the chinese believe they represent the uniques civilization you can't really become the chinese you have to grow up in the cultural environment. you can't really naturalized as chinese. so as a result, americans have fought of the world was composed of more or less equal society and the concept of sovereignty to go with that. the chinese until the end of the 19th century thought of the world and as tributaries to what they call the celestial empire. tributaries didn't mean that they had to pay tribute. it was expected that they would bring some gifts, but they were often given gifts in return but it did mean the indicated for the chinese society and chinese supremacy so the chinese relations and other nations are based more on mutual respect than on the concept of equality but the chinese as we do believe the values are unique, and it makes them even more sensitive than we would be to outside pressures telling them how to redo their society. >> host: do the chinese when you say there -- >> guest: it's not necessarily >> host: you also write that when yours entered the modern age of had a

the chinese wreck center -- the chinese rec center has been a touchstone for many chinese. it is where you played, but also where you learn to be american and where he picked up the values of being an american citizen. many of our community institutions are named for the geographic location of the facility. we have the chinese hospital. we have the chinatown library. we have the chinatown ymca. our personal and individual stories are not reflected in our community institutions. our personal, individual stories have been overlooked. we feel very strongly that we need to begin to claim our history, claim our story, and claim our heroes. betty ann ong, a native daughter, is a hero, and should be honored with the naming of the chinese rec center in her honor. we further urged that in the future, a broader recognition of her heroism be reflected. thank you. president buell: thank you. >> richard? >> good morning, commissioners. i came in today to try to talk about this subject matter. i am not necessarily in favor of this project. we have already listened to this issue many time

chinese -- no american could find chinese experts anywhere. and they relived root is turned is that as a tourist you could buy $100 worth of chinese goods. the chinese in turn release some people that had strayed into chinese waters and the occupants anyway had been captured. so we have the signals. but we found it hard to do a separate contact because, for example, we sent some messages to romania or rather retold the romanian. nixon had been in romania. and the romanians had been the most independent of the european communist countries. so we thought they might have most credibility in beijing. the problem was that the chinese communists didn't just anti-communist. so they were going to prepare specific to romania. but finally on the trip around the world mcclintock to the pakistan president not established a contact which we been used. >> host: let me ask you about the media pack tribe to which you are doing the opening to china, which was the vietnam war. he talked about strategic dynamics between the united states and the soviet union whi

remain able to buy you know a chinese product i don't think it is. question about that ok greg i want to ask you a question i mean what china has benefited so much from the current economic order in the world right now i mean they're going to still continue to work as a partner is doris try to point out you want to demonize them into an enemy but it's in their own interest to keep the order going to way it is. exactly the way that it's an interest that a drug dealer has in his customer being able to continue to buy products that are doing the back of our car sustaining europe's bad behavior sustaining americans have behaviors that are is not a on this planet we're going to we're short break and we've got a lot more ahead on the last three and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on china's state department. if. you want to be. in canada and the u.s. so that it is legal for you to use a bubble bath on your baby they contains a known carcinogen something that causes cancer most of the sharon stuff and i'll put in different they are spon

a democratic chinese society u.k. intimate things such that i saw one of them or that i heard it eventually of course ok great i mean it was me why should we assume if i go back to grade here in irvine and i should be china were to go down the world the path of democratization is we all would understand it why would it have to be a western liberal model can't they have a model that is more representative of their society and values go ahead. i didn't say that i just say we need a model that doesn't involve killing a lot of people locking them up in jails because of their religious beliefs and them intentionally exploiting the weaknesses of the western governments in order to bring them down faster my concern which side is internal behavior in this conversation is mostly to say to you i prefer if they treat their own people this way why would you expect them to treat you fairly and in economic or business contractual relationship and they don't they're systemic cheaters and liars ok i do receive a very strong. critique

and all of a sudden it's a chinese road or the chinese dam or chinese branch and everyone in the vicinity knows about it. you get all sorts of credit for it. it's very smart in their part to do it and it puts us in a difficult position because were simply not getting the credit we rightly deserve, even from someone as sophisticated as prime minister malice. he knows the numbers better than any of us in this room. but i do know how you do with that issue. maybe just the nature. i would like to make a pitch for one organization that is not to mention in terms of what the u.s. government can do and that his support for the overseas and it's a small organization i used to deal when i was ambassador and i found it to be an effective organization and what it did, but it's very small. >> mr. hayes, you said we should be shifting usaid towards the private sector. that says to me, spend less on health health care in educating young women more on establishing mercantile, business relationships. >> i think we've got to look at a greater balance certainly in a period and how we use that and also ther

remain able to buy you know a chinese product i don't think it is. question about that ok greg i want to ask you a question i mean what china has benefited so much from the current economic order in the world right now i mean they're going to still continue to work as a partner is doris tried to point out you want to demonize them into an enemy but it's in their own interest to keep the order going the way it is. exactly the way that it's an interest that a drug dealer has in his customer being able to continue to buy products that are doing them economic harm sustaining europe's bad behavior sustaining america's grab behaviors that is knocking on this one we're going to a short break and we've got a lot more to talk on the last day and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on china stay with r.t. . if you want to. discover it. communicate with the want to. test yourself and become free. see what nature can give you. from los angeles to chicago to birmingham twenty trauma centers have closed since two thousand severe problem is not eno

veazey financing offered by chinese state banks, lowered bids on projects by chinese state-controlled construction companies and the fact that companies now have a ubiquitous presence on the african continent for companies to compete chinese growing interest in african materials should not pose a problem for the united states exit to the extent chinese demand pushes up the global commodity prices. china's's growing use of soft power in africa should be brought to the united states to do better for the time being china poses no security threat to the united states and africa and probably will not do so for at least the next five years other emerging powers are also playing a critical one africa and attention needs to be given to them india is becoming a significant competitor of china on the continent and brazil, iran, turkey, saudi arabia, united emirates, indonesia, singapore and cuba are all returning more engaging for the first time in a major way. areas for cooperation with china include in the health sector particularly the programs also the tropical diseases like hookworm, the a

well the ultimate goal for the chinese human spaceflight program is the thousand year long time human space presence in space by twenty twenty as you mentioned so the shinzo eight will be not an important step to achieve this goal basically shinzo abe will attend the it will be the first time the shinzo a chinese will attend the. rendezvous and docking with the on going one which has a launch in september twenty ninth and basically it's another important step for the chinese to achieve its goal to having a long term presence in space how would you assess china's progress in developing in the country space program and how far is it behind compared to the achievements racked up by russia in the u.s. . well china has come a long way in terms of space technology but i still think. the country has a still a long way to go basically chinese space technologies do not represent a major technology called breakthrough if you compare it with the russian and american space technologies for example the wonder space more joy it could be compared to the earlier russian space modules of the so you pr

basically a first time for the chinese to actually be docking procedure. for the last decade or so china has. consequently consequently. started the thousand and three human spaceflight program and thousands size of launching to try canals in two thousand and eight. when i was in first place was so the chinese are progressively improving progressively. gradually to the american national abilities how do you see washington reacting to china's progress on this front. well basically what washington is is concerned about and the chinese space program doesn't clearly delineate distinguish between its commercial military and civilian aspects of it interesting to see that the chinese space program is basically controlled by the people's liberation army the general harmony department the p l a has basically operational control over both men's and unmanned chinese space flights so i would argue that the u.s. policymakers are clearly concerned about the dual use of chinese space to build it . is only what do you see as the future going forward do you do you see a ne

the chinese embassy in town, and other chinese around the country, you ask them about what kind of philosophy, how would they describe it today? they call it market socialism. market socialism! >> john, john, where they made a mistake -- >> do not use the word communism? they acknowledged. >> they don't use capitalism or communism and they're trying to find something -- >> market associationism. >> where kim is right is this -- the chinese with this you get out of this order, get out of our territorial waters, they've given obama and the americans an opportunity to reup and get back into asia full speed, and united states was -- which was withdrawing is probably going to stop withdrawing. i agree with him. i think we've got to downsize it and tell the countries, you take care of yourselves. the chinese are your problem, in the south china sea. you negotiate with them, and if they take over the whole sea, that is your problem, not ours. >> you want to solve this problem by a de factor acquiescence to what the chinese are telling us to do? >> no, would you senn the fleet in and maintain our rig

to request to name the chinese recreation center the betty ann ong chinese recreation center of san francisco meet our guidelines. her extraordinary terrorism made a significant contribution, not only to the -- her extraordinary heroism made a significant contribution, not only to the city, but to the country. on september 11201,2001, she became an example of heroism. i cannot say enough about how important i think this is to the chinese community, to san francisco, and to the rest of the country to honor betty ann ong. i'm going to ask harry ong and gloria ong to speak before we proceed with public testimony. >> good morning. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. commissioners, president buell, mr. martin, david lee, general manager, mr. ginsburg. i am the brother of betty ann ong. my family and i would like to take this opportunity to thank the park and recreation center. supporters who are here and in attendance, those who are unable to attend, petition signers, and all citizens of this great nation at large. we urge you to support the renaming of the recreation center. the ong family would

the chinese tell us they act against counterfeiting. they issued a statement to the press that they always are taking action against counterfeiters. did you see any evidence when you were there of any chinese government action against what was being sold as counterfeit? >> no, i did not. when i was in the marketplace the parts that bret baier, the interpreter was reading to me cards describing what level of refurbishment had taken place as they were regarded. this was out in the open. when we got into the city of s chsnt chsntal, the purpose of the business was to harvest components and go through complete refurbishment right there in the open. >> senator mccain? >> i think the witnesses. mr. homan, how serious do you think this problem is? >> the results of our work to date is based on a non generalized sample of parts we requested to purchase. therefore unable to discuss the prevalence of this activity. >> a serious problem? not so serious? waste of your time? >> no, not at all. we consider the problem itself to be a very serious one,

appreciation reason that we know that recent thread the chinese prime minister. took a tour through. some problems that. he heard the complaints of. exporting and the prices well the a complaint. you know as we have seen lately the interest of some of the western countries and us is no exception is shifting eastwards as you've just been telling us there has been there have been a lot of developments in that part of the world but in your opinion why is the u.s. zeroing in on china. so much now you know i think well i'm a possibility were impossible really is that the u.s. presidential election is approaching. the try and your case that you can use economy and they can use currency to use the are used as a scapegoat for you as a difficult economic difficulties again. recent thread that's why the us is nearing its appearing on. all right professor john duis history of the chinese university of hong kong thanks very much indeed for being with us here in the program thank you for. asia pacific leaders in hawaii were also keen to shield themselves from the fallout in t

the reaction has been negative both for my chinese leadership and amongst common chinese citizens the foreign ministry said it may not be quite appropriate to intensify and expand military alliances and may not be in the interests of countries within the region so of course this is not with concern of my chinese leaders until the chinese military leaders but it's also met with a lot of attention and concern of my chinese citizens many of my friends here you talk about this and what they perceive is the u.s. policy of containment of an attempt by the united states to encircle china back nominally and militarily and that perception that perception of the united states influence in the asia pacific has existed for several years time and alliances like this one between the united states and australia will only serve to strengthen that perception of course that this sort of alliance and u.s. military and diplomatic endeavors in the region are covered by chinese state new florence's popular opinion and it feeds into really the chinese sense of victimization at the hands of us turn powers he

banks in the chinese banks because the chinese are willing to execute fraudsters that's a good sign and the other thing we hear over and over and over again is that we bottom ninety nine percent must compete with china get with it cut your wages compete with them how do you expect us us wealth creators to create jobs for you if you want pension plans if you want health care if you want wages living wages look at the chinese well why do we have to live like the chinese labor when they don't have to live like the top one percent in china. there's got to be some reciprocity this is what obama did mention in honolulu these you know something in chinese broken system we like they like the execute they're bad bankers we're going to start doing that all straight i mean it really you would find the entire situation change quite dramatically well let's look on into america and see what happens there are bank of america and j.p. morgan really blocking the return of the m.f. global customer money so this is them jesse's cafe american and he looks at a white paper. her from tifr on capital manageme

the presidential election is approaching and china and the chinese case the chinese economy and the chinese currency. are used to ask a. scapegoat for us the difficult economic difficulties again so recent thread that's why i'm in the us it's nearing its theory i cannot gain. asia pacific leaders in hawaii were also keen to shield themselves from the fallout in the euro zone and later we see whether government changes in the e.u. will provide protection. to presidents are taking over endeavor in greece and italy but critics say they will be better able to serve the interests of brussels. and here in the army now well almost a tough military like discipline looks set to be introduced in some u.k. schools but will it may be perfectly behaved we investigate. syria has called an emergency meeting of the arab league in an attempt to reverse the decision which saw it suspended from the organization the freeze on the country's membership and accompanying sanctions received wide support from the e.u. and the us an overwhelming majority of member states voted for the measure to urge president bashar

the following day, saw the chinese vice premiere meet south korean business leaders.e urged south korea to quickly conclude a free trade agreement with china. >> li added he made the same proposal to president lee myung bak on wednesday. but south koreans remain deeply concerned about possible flood of cheap chinese farm and manufacturing imports. if tariffs are lifted. formal talks on a trade pact have yet to start. and that does it from seoul. back to you in tokyo, shery. >> nemo, thanks. and here in japan, $1 billion scandal continues to shake optical equipment maker, olympus. despite the resignation of its president on wednesday, pressure is mounting on olympus to explain a series of controversial payments to m&a advisers. in a highly unusual move, prime minister yoshihiko noda has told britain's "financial times" that the scandal could hurt japan's reputation as a rules-based market economy. >> translator: olympus strategically studied the acquisition of the companies. based on mid to long-term business plans. >> takayama was named president on wednesday, followi

treasury bonds so ironically the chinese are financing wars directly directed against chinese national interest for energy security or would you say that the united states is going to has any chance of resurfacing from the crisis that it's finding itself in right now the only way as they see it they can they can survive and keep the dollars there instrument wall street i'm talking about is the gods of money and so i call it in my book. is to find new areas of loot so the arab spring is directed against grabbing and privatizing the vast wealth of the arab oil world in the arab world generally just as the use of the i.m.f. in the former soviet union was consciously designed by wall street and by washington in order to plunder the vast resources of russia and the former soviet union and warsaw pact countries so if the dollar does not retain its superior status do you think there's any likelihood that the euro will retain it or inherit it rather well one reason that there's this difficulty with greece and these so-called euro zone weaker economies is that this is part of a kind of a covert

headaches with the chinese leaders. this taught the lesson that china will have to at least think about developing better relations with the opposition in these countries. domestic politics in these countries are so unpredictable and china always picks the side with the government like in the case of libya. they always sided with gaddafi. some day when there is a change of government within the country and the chinese natural -- national interest cannot be protected. the lesson learn from libya is had to have better relations with different factions, different political players within a certain country but not necessarily from a regional perspective. >> francois? >> on china i agree. when i discussed with my chinese colleagues in the un, they always say the interest of china are better served apolitical. they don't want to be involved in the mess of having to take sides. this is not at the core of their interests. they always talked about north korea and having to deal with them and they say they have to lead the approa

the following day, saw the chinese vice premiere meet south korean business leaders.e urged south korea to quickly conclude a free trade agreement with china. >> li added he made the same proposal to president lee myung bak on wednesday. but south koreans remain deeply concerned about possible flood of cheap chinese farm and manufacturing imports. if tariffs are lifted. formal talks on a trade pact have yet to start. and that does it from seoul. back to you in tokyo, shery. >> nemo, thanks. and here in japan, $1 billion scandal continues to shake optical equipment maker, olympus. despite the resignation of its president on wednesday, pressure is mounting on olympus to explain a series of controversial payments to m&a advisers. in a highly unusual move, prime minister yoshihiko noda has told britain's "financial times" that the scandal could hurt japan's reputation as a rules-based market economy. >> translator: olympus strategically studied the acquisition of the companies. based on mid to long-term business plans. >> takayama was named president on wednesday, followi

>> i read chinese and speak chinese. >> rose: mandarin and cantone? >> i don't speak cantonese, i do mandarin. and mandarin is the lingua franca. and i used mandarin for many years. all the officials in canton know mandarin as well. i was able to use a lot of the archival work that has been available. fortunately, while i was working on this the chrology of deng, which is a five-volume series of all of h important appointments was published and most no other western scholars had used it, that was a basic source for me. >> rose: why had no other western scholars used it? because they weren't allowed to, o or...... >> no. they hadn't gotten around to it. >> rose: how about access to people... >> i've had unusually good fortune. being at harvard and having many good students and when jiang zemivisited harvard i was his host and he agreed to talk to me. the foreign minister is an old friend that i've known for many years. also the provincial secretary of gaung don wch led the reforms had a grandsonho he sent to me to work under me. i had very good connect