and the courier led to bin ladin.r al qaeda leaders said that the curier wasn't important after they had been coercively interrogated. in four cases there were coercive interrogations and they produced conflicting information. it's a gray picture. a lot of the other -- the way that the courier was found, getting his real name from another country was vital. he had a number of aliases. getting his cell phone and locating it, was huge. following him two and a half hours back to the compound was vital. coercive interrogation is a asmall part of this picture. there were a lot of other things that came up along the way. >> both sides can use it as they want? >> yeah, there's a little bit of ammo for both sides. the idea that either was despositive is not the case. >> you spent a lot time in pakistan researching the book. it takes you inside the compound and the planning of it over the years. what about the idea that somebody in pakistan, the military -- somebody in pakistan, the government must have known? >> it's hard to

and the courier led to bin ladin. senior al qaeda leaders said courier wasn't important after they had been coercively interrogated. in four cases there were coercive interrogations and they produced conflicting information. it's a gray picture.ç and in fact, a lot of the other -- the way that the courier was found, getting his real name from another country was absolutely vital. because he had a variety of aliases. getting his cell phone and being able to geolocate it, that was a national security agency. getting a human spy on the ground in the city where he was to follow him 2 1/2 hours drive back to the compound, all those things were vital. coercive interrogation is a small part of this picture. as were uncoercive interrogation. there were a lot of other things that came up along the way. >> both sides can use it as they want? >> yeah, there's a little bit of ammo for both sides. the idea that either was despositive is not the case. >> you spent a lot time in pakistan researching the book. the book is really fas

are we better off in the year since the death of bin ladin? >> i think there's no doubt we are much better off. we're better off because al qaeda is weaker and has been ever since 9/11. with the death of bin ladin, al qaeda really lost its inspirational leader, as we also found out from the raid, lost its operational driver for pushing al qaeda affiliates to attack the united states, to attack the homeland. and with his death, the pressure on those affiliates to turn back toward their local targets is much greater. i think in that sense, although al okayed saturday is still there, the u.s. is much safer one year later. >> the situation room was part your old workplace. we were there, we brought cameras in there this past week for the first time and had conversations with basically everyone in the picture, to reconstruct that night, what they were feeling, including the president, and the exchange we want to air here from this hour long special "rock center" from tomorrow evening. i asked him about the moment the proof of death photos arrived o

with the death of bin ladin, al qaeda really lost its inspirational leader. but as we also found out in the raid, it lost its operational driver for pushing al qaeda to attack the u.s. and the homeland. and with his death, the pressure on those affiliates to turn back toward their near enemy rather than the united states. i think we're much better off. >> as we said, you were there a year ago. we spent days compiling a special "rock center" for tomorrow evening. we interviewed everyone in the room, from the president on down. we have a portion of it to air tonight, when i asked the president about the moment when the photographs arrived in the situation room, showing the deceased bin ladin. how did that feel to look at that image? >> you know, it -- i think it's wrong to say that i did a high five, because you have a picture of a dead body. and, you know, there's -- i think regardless of who it is, you always have to be sober about death. but understanding the satisfaction for the american people, what it would mean for 9/11 families, what it would mean for t

it could have been that bin ladin destroyed them. it's very -- from our perspective, i think we have no knowledge whatsoever. since you are in the state department, you are closer, you might want to ask the dni office. we with received these documents from the dni office. they would be better suited to give you advice. i have no clue whatsoever as to what's out there. >> use your connections and let me know. >> you mentioned that you have limited documents, now, those of us who are familiar with how the u.s. attorney and their information is given, they fabricate a lot of stuff. do you suspect any fabrication in these documents and the u.s. government. that's not very surprising. another question i would like to add to it, since you said osama bin ladin -- can you you compare them with our leaders, like georgep bush, dick cheney, barack obama? and finally, that citizenship -- i'm a naturalized citizen, i had to take oath. but i did consider my oath to be subject to our leaders behaving in a civilized -- if our leaders behave like hit

one year from osama bin ladin stead, president obama makes a surprise visit to afghanistan. ripping into rupert murdoch, he is declared not fit to lead a major company. and shining a light on the occupy movement. in new york, the activists are having an impact. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. president obama has marked the anniversary of the killing of osama bin ladin with a surprise visit to afghanistan. he announced -- he arrived unannounced under the cover of darkness. he then signed an agreement about the role of combat troops after their withdrawal. >> a dramatic appearance. the american president of rides. -- arrives. president obama left the air base and went to the presidential palace. he discussed america's continued role in the fight against global terror. >> i have come to afghanistan to mark an historic moment for our nation's. i am here to a firm the bonds between our countries, to thank american men and women who have sacrificed so much in these last 10 years. in order to ensure peace and .rosperity for our nation's president obam

obama trip comes a year to the day after the raid that killed osama bin ladin. the reason america is safe is because of view, he told the troops. president obama flew in in the dead of night and announced. that brings today's show to a close. you can find updates anytime you like on our website. if you'd like to reach me and most of the bbc team, you can find us on twitter. >> make sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding was made possible by -- the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu, newman's own foundation, and union bank. >> at union bank, our relationship managers use their expertise in global finance to guide you through the business strategies and opportunities of international commerce. we put our extended, global network to work for a wide range of companies, from small businesses to major corporations. what can we do for you? >> "bbc world news" was presented by kcet los angeles. tavis: good evening from los angeles, i'm tavis smiley. tonight a conversation with angeles, i'm tavis smiley. tonight a conversation w

ghana's deal shortly after barack obama visits kabul to mark a year since the killing of osama bin ladin. and frantic campaigning in france as a presidential election with just days left for the two candidates to woo voters before the size of brown but not everyone's enthusiastic about the choice on offer . in the russian capital you are with r.t.m. arena joshie the anti-corporate all keep on movement has made a comeback in the u.s. after a long hiatus activist returned to the birthplace of the protest in new york city having been evicted from their encampment last autumn the boys came back to to make arrests. is across the latest. may day doesn't just mark the international workers day it now marks the resurgence of the occupy wall street movement thousands of activists flooded the streets of manhattan picking up where the grass roots coalition left off in the form of demonstrations taking place throughout the entire city including bryant park union square and wall street repeating the message that they have been saying over and over again voicing their outrage against wealth inequality

we have the in for example cooperating as a country with whom we call terrorists whether it's bin ladin or bin laden related groups. we've been working with them since mid nine hundred ninety s. ok and we've been working with them in central asia and this continued even after september eleventh two thousand and one we have been directly as a country as a nation and the congress budgets that these are the secret legends they've been funding terrorist groups like chechens any kind of activities that have been carried out the major ones between one thousand ninety six and two thousand one less say by major chechen terrorists were directly on their our order our funding our army and our direction and be walked very closely with the individuals and the groups from afghanistan pakistan saudi arabia and most importantly nato ally turkey to put in place various cells in central asia and caucuses to create terror so what about these domestic cases that we're seeing all these continued four year old terror plots that somehow it all comes out that there's cases of entrapment i mean do you think th

find some of bin ladin has been sentenced to thirty three years in jail. reading was accused of running a fake cia vaccination program as part of the hunt for the former chief of court convicted of treason he's also been wanted to pay a fine three thousand dollars u.s. special forces killed in lawton during a raid operation. well in harden might be dead but new life is being breathed of the story of his capture and killing many of the details of his assassination have remained a state secret but not it seems if you're a hollywood filmmaker with an oscar winning director being granted special access to the white house for a new film it's called reporter josh gerstein thinks it's all part of a p.r. campaign for president obama ahead of november's election. it is reason really puzzling you may remember there was a big burst to publish that he had day or two after the seal team raid that killed osama bin laden and then all of a sudden at least publicly the administration put the brakes on and said look there's been too much talk about this it's getting out of

attacks hit afghanistan shortly after barack obama visits kabul one year since the killing of osama bin ladin. frantic campaigning in france's presidential election with just days left for the two candidates to rule voters before the science around but not everyone is enthusiastic about the choice on offer also. you can it takes to see somebody who was tortured in his own country and then this guy is going to give you some lesson about how to promote human rights in tunisia. join us on twitter human rights have a kid now the new leader of tunisia on his encounter with american double standards his time in solitary confinement and his hopes for his country's future that are much more only honest on his show on air in less than thirty minutes here on our t.v. . it is eleven am and the russian capital you're watching r.t. joshing the anti-corporate occupy movement has made a comeback in the u.s. after a long hiatus activist returned to the birthplace of the protest in new york city having been evicted from their encampment last autumn the police came back to to make arrests are two very importan

them last week and then you find out that they're going to leave documents that show that osama bin ladin had concerns because he felt that al qaida with kind of on the outs and was losing i mean that's like perfect propaganda. that's the point they're trying to play this is propaganda and i know you have you know must look at what they did they didn't want to tom drake for the n.s.a. whistle blowing but at the same time because look at those wars the woodward book the first three chapters are all classified codeword stuff so there's a selective process here going on so they will manipulate things i suppose supported judicial watch on their suit regarding the photos i mean you know one day the state department saying the war on terror is over the next day you say they're trying to deny access to the most transparent administration in history according to their own so you really are seeing them speak out of both sides of the mouth what i think's most uncomfortable here though is a president for all intents and purposes from what i've told talked to by the insiders was really not engaged in

they like -- i don't -- when i emphasize about bin ladin and his concern of indiscriminate attacks. please don't nominate him for a peace award. it's more about the fact that he's more interests in qualitative attacks. and these qualitative attacks need to have their own -- you know, their own proper lawful target in his mind. and that target is not -- the primary target is not civilians. he does say in the process -- in one of his public statements, sometimes civilians die, and we have to answer to god about this. we have a responsibility to this. there is what you would with consider a local -- a law, some sort of conduct that they comply with. with the arabic -- in some instances he disappointed me. he's arabic, very strong. i don't want to very economical on sort of -- the other thing is he was writing for private communications so he wouldn't have needed to work on this. however there is one publicly available letter, which is one of the statements that al zawahiri released after the arab spring to the people of egypt and this has been edited by somebody. if this was bin laden

and bomb attacks and which at least seven die is trip marks a year since the killing of osama bin ladin while a deal was signed with afghan president karzai to cover the decade after the plans a troop pull out in twenty four days. and frantic campaigning in france's presidential election was just days left for the two candidates to rule voters before a decisive round on sunday but the fight is getting tougher as right wing leader marine le pen refuses to endorse either candidate. it's exactly three decades after the argentine cruiser general belgrano was sunk in the first major british attack on the focus war next we'll sit down with historian and author hugh you know to discuss whether the conflict was worth it. it's now thirty years since the war between britain and argentina over the falkland islands but like the islands themselves the accounts of that war and the reasons for it are still hotly disputed to talk more about this i'm joined by hugh britton oh historian and author of razors edge the unofficial history of that war he thanks for speaking to r.t. during the period known as

god in bomb attacks in which at least six die his trip marked a year since the killing of osama bin ladin while deals were signed with afghan president karzai to cover the decade after the plan through for twenty fourteen. and frantic campaigning in france's presidential election with just days left for the two candidates to woo voters before the decisive round on sunday but the fight is getting tougher as right wing leader marine le pen. he uses to endorse either candidate. we are now turning to the world of sports and you didn't hear good morning to you well i the tragedy once again hits the professional sporting world yemen a seems i'm talking with things like this much too often a twenty six year old norway swimming champion a world champion who so the big silver medalist has died aged as i said just twenty six more in that story coming up we're going on the rest of the sport as well. plenty ahead over the next ten minutes including. in charge roy hodgson is named the new english football manager on the four year deal will remain in charge of the final two games of the premier league

were able to finally bring osama bin ladin just. by now nobody doubts that bin laden's killing is going to be the highlight of obama's presidential campaign it's already featured in his ads. the harder. and the more on. the one. produced in my opinion the best from so. as hyped as bin laden's killing is some ask whether it's being used to mask the feeler of us policies abroad during the last ten years the bin laden thing i think makes things easier it sells well but again i don't think you can put that good a face on ten years of combat in afghanistan and the afghan and the iraq invasion i think is to me question still yet to be asked about what the justification was no matter how much killing bin laden means you can't take away ten years of failure it was going into afghanistan and especially into iraq ok that created more enemies you know and recruits for. you know you had this kind of salafist. you know then that then weakening them the pentagon's new strategy is to move away from ground wars bin laden's killing has become the fa

swift boat president obama with this new ad trying to spin president obama's killing of osama bin ladin against him take a look. report i directed leon panetta i was briefed on the middle of beautifully i determined that my direction i called president zardari i was a man or i. don't need to spike the football i said that. and i. suppose in the navy seals gone in they are supposed. to dance and i would be i the group behind that ad is calling itself veterans for a strong america so what more do we need to know about this group as it begins its ad of salt on the president at impact is here he's a reporter at think progress welcome thanks so much for having me great to have you here with us what exactly is veterans for a strong america so veterans for a strong america is actually a fairly secretive group as best we've been able to discern it's a very small organization in fact some reports show that there is in fact only one employee payroll joel aarons who is the director of this organization however they've also hosted several fairly large events including those with very recent preside

war and that is why they're using these you know rhetorical and highly lofty statements about bin ladin and i wote how they've turned it around i think the taliban know very well they are playing the waiting game and i don't see them being defeated at all in fact rather for them big three lies in our last in the united states and even if it's ten more years i think it is actually you know it's like red rag to the bull because as long as there are western military forces present these indigenous insurrection are nonresistance will keep going so i think you can say that the united states has been defeated in afghanistan i mean it's fair to say now ten years on line we can see because how many more soldiers are you know base is going to help the cause i think obama himself might even want to call. it big whereas as or not you're saying and you're saying reconstruction we travel thousands on thousands of troops i do apologize for interrupting but thousands of troops many many u.s. bases in afghanistan as well it's interesting how you say obama is using a lofty rhetoric to make a house try a

again a stand shortly after barack obama visits kabul to mark a year since the killing of osama bin ladin. and frantic campaigning and francis presidential election was just days left for the two candidates to voters before the size of around not everyone's enthusiastic about the choice and offered. it as a.t.m. of the russian capital you're watching r t joshua welcome to the program and the anti-corporate occupy movement has made a comeback in the u.s. after a long hiatus activist returned to the birthplace of the protests in new york city have been affected from their encampment last autumn the police came back to to make arrests at his marina organize across the latest. right now we are in veterans' memorial was aware of at least a thousand or more occupy activists who have basically camped out for more than two hours if you see behind me there's just a wall of police gathered around the entire plaza we are walking with the opposite is appropriate now police dressed in riot gear are moving in on the protesters and now it's coming to a point where the activists and the police officers a

so a bin ladin might be dead but a new life is being breathed into the story of his capture and killing many the details of his assassination have remained a state secret but not it seems if you're hollywood filmmaker with an oscar winning director being granted special access to the white house political reporter josh gerstein thinks it's all part of a p.r. campaign ahead of november's presidential election. it is reason really puzzling you may remember there was a big burst to publish that he had day or two after the seal team raid that killed osama bin laden and then all of a sudden at least publicly the administration put the brakes on and said look there's been too much talk about this it's getting out of hand no more information should be put out were troubled by what's come out already well it turns out behind the scenes they continue to meet with these hollywood filmmakers and to give them at least some sort of pretty interesting special access not just to the decision makers involved but even to some of the secret places that the cia used to get ready for this raid they were ju

terror and just say you know this is completely fabricated and and what do you think about the bin ladin killing i mean there's all these reports of him dying ten years ago and really we've been presented no evidence put forward i think confusion is one of the main objectives that that that this psyop on people people you see here and that is they create so many of these layers and confusions nobody knows what is real what is and even the logic doesn't work and as you said you brought up a very important point within the f.b.i. we work with files dating back to mid one nine hundred ninety s. there was no unit in the f.b.i. that dealt with al qaeda anybody who claims that they those people are liars because they had units called would just heed while mujahideen while f.b.i. were conducting some investigations to other branches of our executive branch and that is the state department and the cia starting from one thousand nine hundred five were closely working with this people in fact they were using nato planes to bring these entities from afghanistan from saudi arabia from various places

works with american people though i mean if you if you glorify killing i get it right and some of bin ladin you can say is the number one has any but you're going to clarify and you're going to you're going to find this hard to believe i'm actually agreeing with the president regarding his comments regarding regarding mitt romney he would not have made the call to kill him he would have made the call to capture him now and this is why we will get out of it well let me get this real hard look the bottom line is we're getting too far afield of just killing people because we don't like them frankly i'm going to tell you the softer i don't like preserving people necessarily because i'm a good guy because they if they are alive they talk to me they're. two chapters devoted to my book of breaking an opera a guy that we knew was a brother of an operator from iran so we got into the witness of a bit dead men tell no tales so i think obama agrees michael completely how i think there are divergent overplaying their hand on this because a lot of folks are critical of the fact the president may have ma

getting rid of president obama -- getting rid of osama bin ladin, and saving the auto industry. >> still ahead, a man is found murdered. what police know so far. plus, the five men accused in the september 11 attacks are a >> police investigate a murder. the body was found early sunday morning after 12 hours. a security guard made the discovery. the victim has been identified. a worker at the racetrack. an autopsy is scheduled for later today. check out of this video. a burglar drives an suv right through the window of a rent-a- center. security camera shows a video of that crash. you can see the person get out. of the burglars stole a $3,000 tv and dropped it on the way out. so, it may be a little damage. a potential trial date is set for the man accused of plotting the september 11 attack. he repeatedly refused to answer the judge's question. there would not even here headset's -- wear headsets to hear translations. they say they were protesting 11 years of unfair treatment. >> the united states is committed to accountability under law for those who have plotted to attack our nation an

million a year in response to the jailing of a pakastani doctor who helped the cia track down osama bin ladin. he was sentenced to at least 32 years in prison for treason. secretary of state hillary clinton said his jailing was unjust and unwarranted. a meeting between iran and world powers has ended without agreement. the five members of the u.n. security council and germany have been trying to persuade iran to suspend its nuclear ambitions. in another round of talks will be held in moscow next month. polling stations have been closed in egypt after the first free presidential election there. if there is no clear winner, the leading candidates will have a runoff next month. the head of the vatican bank, ettore gotti tedeschi, has been sacked. the roman catholic church had a vote of no-confidence because he is under investigation for alleged money-laundering. there have been more are developments with chen guangcheng and his family. price that is right. the brother of the chinese blind activist who is in the center of a diplomatic standoff between china and the u.s. has escaped from his villa

analyst as well as a best selling author, hi his new book is called manhunt, the 10 year search for bin ladinbottabad, please welcome back to the program peter bergen. (applause) thank you for being here. manhunt, 9/11 to abbottabad, boy, it's like you were in the room with these guys throughout 9 process of locating bin laden and executing the mission. how do you get the type of access that you appear to have. because this is not con jek ture this is what happens. >> yeah, i mean i think si have some credibility on the issue of bin 4r5din and al qaeda. this is my fourth book on the subject. >> yes. >> and talked to people at the white house, the cia, department of defence, you know, a number of people, eventually talked to enough people, if this doesn't talk somebody else will talk. so i was able to build up a pretty good picture of what happened. >> you visited. you were the only guy who visited the house, the compound. >> right. >> how did you get to go to the-- we went in at night with hell corporaters then pakistan was very mad at us and you come in and say my name is peter, i would like

heat of data stand shortly after barack obama visits kabul one year since the killing of osama bin ladin. frantic campaigning in france's presidential election with just days left for the two candidates to voters before the science of round but not everyone's enthusiastic about the choice on offer. live from moscow i'm going to josh welcome to the program and the anti-corporate occupy movement has made a comeback in the u.s. after a long hiatus activist returns to the birthplace of the protests in new york city having been evicted from their encampment last autumn.

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