that's going to nsa. that's documented in court records.rk times" reported in 2010 where nsa had overcollected on u.s. citizens. >> eliot: look, i got to interrupt you. we're going out at 9:00. can you hang around and we'll do a bit more in our web

the nsa. i resigned because i felt i was ready to move back to california to be with my family. >> host: well, you said you thought it was bad policy for security and privacy issues to be centered under a military agency such as the ns sax. nsa. >> guest: yes, i did say that, and i still believe that there needs to be a separation between civilian activities in cyberspace and those security activities and military acttivities. it's an important principle in american constitutional history. >> host: now, rod beckstrom, currently cybersecurity is working its way through the congress. do you have views on the current attitude towards cybersecurity in the congress? >> guest: well, i think congress is concerned, and i think a lot of people are concerned. the reality is anything attach today a network these days is vulnerable. you know, that's just the reality of this new hypertransparent world that we live in, and i think we're all struggling with how to best develop new policy structures and appro

i expressed certain views when i resigned about the nsa, but i did not resign because of the nsa, i resigned because i felt that i had done my term of service with the government and i was ready to move back to california to be with my family. host: in your letter of resignation you said you thought it was bad policy for security and privacy issues to be centered under a military agency such as the nsa. guest: yes, i did say that, and i still believe that there needs to be a separation between civilian activities and cyberspace and those security activities and the military activities. i think it's an important principle in american constitutional history. host: rod beckstrom, currently cyber security is working its way through the congress. do you have views on the current attitude towards cyber security in the congress? guest: well, you know, i think congress is concerned, and i think a lot of people are concerned. the reality is anything attached to a network these days is vulnerable and that's just the reality of this new hyper transparent world that we live in. and i think that we're al

resign your position because of nsa; is that correct? >> no, that's not correct. i expect certain views when i resigned about the nsa, but i didn't resign, i resigned because i felt that i had done my term of service in the government and i was ready to move back to california to be with my family tree is the mikey thought was bad policy for security and privacy issues to be centered under a military agencies such as the nsa. >> yes i did say that and i still believe that there needs to be a separation between civilian activities and cyberspace activities and the military activities. it's an important principal in american constitutional history. >> now, currently cybersecurity is working its way to the contras. do you have views on the current attitude towards cybersecurity in the congress? >> i think congress is concerned and i think a lot of people are concerned. the reality is everything it to the organization is vulnerable. that is the reality of this new high bertrand's print oral that we listen, and i think that we are all struggl

but anyway, tom drake was as you said somebody who worked inside of the nsa and the puzzle palace andhe totally secret nsa, national security agency, and he had become a whistle-blower, and he had seen things that were wasteful inside, and we are talking about billions, and he was concerned that the agency was violating civil liberties in a huge program of domestic surveillance that he understood because he was a computer expert. by the time i got to this situation, he had been charged for leaking supposedly or to a reporter at the "baltimore sun" about his concerns, and he was being charged under the espionage act with and facing the possibility of life in prison. so it is the kind of moment that basically any reporter knows that the lawyer for this man was saying, whatever you do, don't talk to a reporter. so, and he had not talked to anybody at least not on the record. so, my mission was to see if i could somehow get him to speak to many. and he, it turned out, he was not alone. he had a small group of friends who had also become disgruntled together, and they had all been raided b

that's what nsa does. you know, it has been the greatest privilege and honor of my career to work for the people there at nsa. they take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing that they do, and securing this nation. and so when people just show out they're going to have all this stuff at utah

were wiretapped and supreme court justices who were wiretapped and there was a member of congress who nsa sought to wiretap in 2006 and 2007 and in the same "new york times" story, and history shows us that these kinds of broad surveillance powers will be abused and that's part of the reason why you need to set up limits now to make sure that doesn't happen. >> the gentleman's time has expired and the gentleman from tennessee, mr. corn. >> thank you, sir. i want to follow up with an article. i must have missed that one. they had been listening in on the conversations of judges? >> the church committee report goes into some detail about that, but that was back in '70s. >> that's right. that's right. >> we don't have any knowledge of any current? >> no 40 years is a long time. the current evidence is of wiretapping a member of congress and all i know about that is from the eric lichtblow story that several of us have referred to. >> who was the member? >> i don't know. >> what was -- what was revealed about the purpose of which they weir tapped the individual or what they learned or was any

>> yes, he was a computer expert at nsa and he works at the local apple store, and i am really bad at computer things, and i feel so lucky that i have someone for life now that i can call for help. >> mei, your choice sources and i'm thinking of the doctor at the hospital, and some of them paid a price. >> yes, so almost every single source we had was arrested and tortured with like maybe one or two exceptions only. like every person that spoke to us was arrested and tortured. can you imagine the chill that puts on things. nobody wants to talk to you after they see that everybody who did talk to you before is in prison and having their face shoved in a toilet and beaten until they are black and blue all over their body and forced to drink urine, et cetera, et cetera, and stuff that makes you stay scarred for life and makes you question if you should have ever stood up to ask for democracy or asked anything. so basically what we had to do after that chill kind of settled on bahrain was that we had to drive around to people's houses unannounced, and i would not call people on the phones

blowers who said that the nsa had been recording literally millions of phone calls without any legaluthorization. every key stroke, twitter message and facebook post is stored and accessible, not just to law enforcement but often to private parties. we have left behind the old word of private--old world of privacy and we've crossed into a new frontier of spying. we need to figure out when government can get authorization, i'm not much for commissions and special reports. usually that's a hard way to punt on a horde decision but this is not an easy balancing act. sometimes law enforcement needs information immediately to save a life or catch a terrorist. that's why the president should appoint wise thoughtful folks to look at this issue and provide crisp rules so that we don't have to worry about big brother listening, taking notes of who our friends are. we go to the know what t and how they know it. that's my view. >> eliot: in a famous literary conference a critic is alleged to have said to ernest hemingway, and i quote the only difference between the rich and other people is that

the nsa operates severely for a good reason. it makes sense that the governmental entities that would receive the information from the private sector --the department of homeland security does the best job in government in informing people about what it is up to. it issues assessments that are very detailed and give visibility to what they are doing. i have not seen that privacy impact assessment from an intelligence agency like the nsa. host: john mccain disagrees with you on that and he is quoted in an article in "wired." guest: the threat is not always a national security problem. everyday things like information about virus sharing. it is not the case that all cybersecurity is a military or intelligence function. what would happen under the lieberman-collins bill is that information would be shared with the department of homeland security. they would determine if there is a national security link. the alternative is having companies that might not know make that decision. i think it makes more sense to have hds in that posit

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i just find that mind-boggling that no one at the nsa put the service which raises again the question in my mind that this issue of the self regulation. self regulation works only if you have a tight controls from the regulatory body over them which would be the cftc. so, i guess picking up on this debacle, if the cftc has direct access to bank records of customer funds, if you do that, do you have the resources to actually come and the personnel to do an adequate job of oversight? >> we don't, frankly. we are only about 10% greater than we were 20 years ago and the futures market alone are bigger and then we have the swaps market. eight sold more than a fivefold. but i do think that the direct electronic access for the self regulatory function is critical that it will still be the first line of defense the will be the self-regulatory organization. >> i said i'm losing faith in the self regulation. unless there is adequate tight oversight by the agency that we find it to the federal government and through the regulatory process would you can do to make sure that they are doing their j

"the new york times" reported in 2009, that the nsa intercepted private e-mail messages and phone calls of americans on a scale that went beyond the broad legal limits established by congress. we urge congress not to reauthorize the act in any form without requiring the government to disclose more information about how the act has been interpreted and used. thank you again for giving me this opportunity and i look forward to your questions. >> i want to thank all of the witnesses for staying within the five-minute time limit. the chair will withhold his questioning and will start by recognizing the gentlemen from california for five minutes. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. mr. jaffer, do you have a problem with the fisa court's competence in reviewing on an annual basis the procedures that are used by the intelligence community to conduct these programs, that is the programs have an annual review? >> i don't think the question is one of competence. i think it's one of the court's jurisdiction and the court's mandate. the question is, has the court been given the authority to actua

that is what the nsa does. it has been the greatest privilege and honor of my career to work with the people there at nsa. they take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing that the deutsch securing this nation. when people show they are going to have all this stuff that the data center. we knew the american people to know that isn't true. secretary wolfowitz said try not to go out publicly sometime everybody says something bad about me were the agency. but for my perspective that is just ludicrous. we aren't going to say here's what we are giving in utah would be ridiculous, too because of the khator adversaries to come into the cup tremendous disadvantage. we are not going to do that. >> right here. >> according to the american newspapers there are six airmen and specially trained in slier warfare ridgely from the school, so it is a kind of and other evidence showing that the priority. what is your comment? and another question -- okay. thank you. >> i think defending the count

>> i think the technical expertise on cyber security is in the nsa. and it should remain there.are best at it. in terms of being the public face to do the cyber security work that is not in the .mil and .gov space, i think that home and security has to do it, implement it. but i do not think it needs to retreat technical expertise that the nsa. -- it does not need to repeat technical expertise at the nsa. >> if i could give you the blowup of the deepwater verizon fell two years ago, there were not subject to third independent -- two independent third-party inspection current me to understand what is the role of government and how we produce the effect. but think we need oversight. i think it is logical that should be -- that it should be homeland security. there has to be accountability and somebody has to address the american people. >> at the tennessee plays a major role -- i think the nsa plays a major role. those standards will not be set in stone. they will evolve over time. because ivar security is evolving over time. -- because cyber security is evolving over time. it is

>> i think thetechnical expertise on cybersecurity is in the nsa. the a i shouldem thee. rmf being the public face to do the cybersecurity work that is not in the, in the dot.mil and dot -- we, espeallyn theot go e, i think the homeland department has to do it, implement it. but i don't think it should try to recreate the chnical expertise of thensa. >> i think there's a role for government in oversight the ans. c gyonal owrenter that failed in the deepwater hidessen spill two years ago was built to industry standards, was not subject to independent third party inspection mandated by the governme it is now. so i think we need to understand what ishe rolef gvernnt, ho d pceheec ovghsh thit's logical it should be the department of homeland security. how you evolve the standards can be, you know, part of how the legislation is put together, but that has to be affirmed, there has to beaccountability, and somebody has to be aware on haf thamanpl kaha >>el i g te a collaborative effort. i believe nsa and nsit plays a role as far as establishing standards, and those standards ar

the biggest problem wi all the dangous drugs that i wte anbrneugt ebook ih nsa br t on ll ll suffer except for big pharma. >> host: ell you know, just going back to this discussion of having these expert writing in medical jorls, yoknha kind o ash b in h ihedr be biased or they baby their opinion should be kind of taken with a little bit of skepticism? because there are, y knoyou ntd ets w hv end tho ers and e tscniut t same as having a financial e with the company's clerics where should we be oking clerics. yoveta pa i interview people for these stories but you know, if you are worried i guess about connections to drug companies reern pngsreay him here wre really not working for pharma and in some cases they were kind of anti-pharma. spmaut just you know, of the the raw data is one clue. if youan look at what they have written throughout the to e r heiouslu want om f y ko. t knofrs a jona y ae seeking the truth, you know, but most of my interviews in here were really not ith phapctor psats -- and i had some of the psychiatrist tell me that their whole group were caribbean isndscre onpi th

. >> if included the national security agency or nsa interception of anwar al-awlaki was buzz sglae.> during his pique at upwards of 60 e-mail accounts he was using at any given time. >> how much of it was encorruptencrypted or using codes? >> some was encrypted. >> he has 60 accounts. >> thousands of e-mails. >> buried in that pot of e-mail are communications between major hassan and anwar al lack can i. ---al lack can i. >> the jttf had e-mails betweenal labetween them. >> between january and june 2009 there are 19 exchanges between anwar al-awlaki and major nadal hasan. 17 from hasan toal la al lack c and two brief cordial thank you for your support and kind words that come from anwar al-awlaki to hasan during that same period? >> have you read the e-mails? >> i have they should have given rise to alarm. a member of our armed forces wasn't communicating at all with a radical cleric in yemen should have given rights to an investigation that was thorough and complete. >> you could lose your security clearance in the army for having bad credit and be kicked out of the army but you ca

tom drake was somebody who work inside the nsa, totally secret national-security agency. he had become a whistle-blower. he had seen things that he was really upset about -- huge wastes of money. billions. he was very concerned that he thought the agency was violating civil liberties in a huge program. domestic surveillance. he understood because he was a computer expert. but the time i got to this situation, he had been charged for leaking supposedly to a reporter at "the baltimore sun" his concerns. he was being charged under the espionage act and facing the possibility of life in prison. so it was a moment that basically any reporter knows, the lawyer for this man was saying what ever you do, do not talk to a reporter. and he had not talked to anybody at least on the record. my mission was to see if i could somehow get him to speak to me. it turned out he was not alone. he had a small group of friends who had also become disgruntled together. and they had all been rated by the fbi at gunpoint in the most incredible circumstances and were all certain they were being spi

. >> if included the national security agency or nsa interception of anwar al-awlaki was buzz sglae.ng his pique at upwards of 60 e-mail accounts he was using at any given time. >> how much of it was encorruptencrypted or using codes? >> some was encrypted. >> he has 60 accounts. >> thousands of e-mails. >> buried in that pot of e-mail are communications between major hassan and anwar al lack can i. ---al lack can i. >> the jttf had e-mails betweenal labetween them. >> between january and june 2009 there are 19 exchanges between anwar al-awlaki and major nadal hasan. 17 from hasan toal la al lack c and two brief cordial thank you for your support and kind words that come from anwar al-awlaki to hasan during that same period? >> have you read the e-mails? >> i have they should have given rise to alarm. a member of our armed forces wasn't communicating at all with a radical cleric in yemen should have given rights to an investigation that was thorough and complete. >> you could lose your security clearance in the army for having bad credit and be kicked out of the army but you can't lo

things like the networks of the fbi, the nsa, the intelligence community.alling off those from the commercial internet is the response. people will use it in an emergency to be communicating with their loving one, crippling that and having the government step in will make us less safe and our ability to recover less resilient. it's the wrong approach. you can do it with far less restrictive issues than this. >> i believe in the constitution and free speech, so i have to take -- agree with you 100%. gentleman, thank you, i hope you come back, this is a debate we need to have. up next, does apple have a green problem? san francisco blocking prokts of apple products with city funds because they're not green enough. stay with us for that. and millions embezzle, the suicide note, no body. no, this is not a movie, this is happening with a georgia bank executive. we'll have details. stay with us. -- fidelity. now you don't have to go to a bank to get the things you want from a bank, like no-fee atms, all over the world. free checkwriting and mobile deposits. now d

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so they've worked with the american nsa, the national security agency, and together created computer. now, you've had reports here on cnn that that's something new, offensive cyberwar. it raises a lot of issues, but bottom line, it's something short of all-out war. even the israelis don't want to bomb iran, they have a lot of covert action that they're still attempting. >> how far would the israelis go in terms of assassination in iran? how high up the chain of command? >> again, looking at the mossad playbook for decades, which is what we do in this history, they're reluctant to kill a national leader. they don't think that killing the president of iran or the supreme leader would accomplish much. who would replace them, et cetera? they prefer to be tactical. when they've been fighting terrorists, they try to look for the people who actually do the planning, take them out, scare off others from joining that organization, that's the kind of thinking that they're doing, in the nuclear program too, scare off scientists from joining the nuclear program. >> now, we know there's been some

i have the privilege of working with nsa. they take your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing they do in securing this nation so when people show up they have all this stuff at the new data center. that is baloney. we need people to know is not true. as secretary wolfowitz said, every time some bees says something bad about me or the agency at don't go public. eyewall not say what we're doing in utah. that would give the enemy is an advantage. >> i am from china's inter television. according to american newspapers there are six specially trained cyb cyberwarfare graduates from the school. kind of another evidence of showing what america is doing -- from the general -- to the welfare. what are your comments? another question. thank you. >> depending our country in cyberspace is one of our most important missions and to assure that we are secure and the president and secretary of state have laid out those limits. in the 2009 speech to white house more accurately quoted but there, and was we will respond to th

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in 1975, senator frank church went on "meet the press" and said if nsa turns listening ears on the u.s11, they turned the giant listening ears in and we became possible suspects. our phone calls, e-mails, all of that stuff, there's a reason the national security agency has outgrown its facility and had to spend $2 million to build a new one out in the desert. every day, you, me, our children, anyone that has anything plugged in is tracked and that data is stored, sifted and analyzed. i'm a law and order guy. i love when technology gets used to nail bad guys. what i don't want it to be used for is to track what i'm doing and what you're doing and say wait a second, is he possibly going to do something wrong. >> what would you recommend to make sure that doesn't happen? >> it's very difficult. my kids eventually will want to get into social media. i don't want them in that sphere. one of the things that i am going to do for my children is set up fake accounts under fake names. their friends can know that my kids are not really sally doe and bill doe but there's a lot of different things

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and nsa and that is obviously and ongoing operation and also the revelation of our tactics, techniquessed on the osama bin laden raid when we conduct operations similar to that every single night in afghanistan. that's what is so egregious about it because these operations are still ongoing and it puts people another risk and it invites the iranians, once they know that we are conducting cyber attack against them it invites their reta retaliation. a high level source says they have retaliated at new york city banks and hav have nailed at that because they are not up to the skill level that we have. stphaor they suggesting that they have tried tow retaliate with their own computer virus against us. >> yes, yes, they don't have the capability. the iranians have always been an eye for an eye organization. when somebody does something against them, when they think the israelis have killed their scientists you can see around the world what they did with the israelis and recently in bulgaria, and they'll do the same thing with us, that's what makes this so dangerous and this is what admiral

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the nsa director delivered the keynote address at an american enterprise institute event monday titled, "cybersecurity and american power." it's about an hour. [inaudible conversations] >> well, i suppose i should say, first of all, thank you all for coming and braving this 83-degree cold wave that's struck washington. judging from the size of the crowd and the number of cameras here, i don't think anyone needs me to underscore the importance of this subject. it's testimony not only to the subject matter, but the stature of our speaker. but nevertheless, indulge me for just a couple of minutes to provide what i think is some useful historical context. and to think back to the beginning not of this century, but of the last one. the world today, you might say, is transfixed by the phenomenon of rapid economic growth in a number of countries that is rapidly creating new major powers in the world. of course, the buggest are chi -- the biggest are china and india, but some others that would look fairly large in comparison to great powers in the past such as vietnam, russia, indonesia, brazi

included in that or not included in that but under defense, nsa should be cut, homeland security should be cut, and oil subsidies should be cut. the defense department is the biggest waster of money in the government other than medicare. and medicare should be cut. cut by waste, fraud, and abuse. $70 million a year in waste right there or more. and there should be tax cuts that obama is asking for. host: finish this sentence, bob, a democrat. caller: they should happen. your first caller completely stole my thunder. instead of repeating what he just said, and i agree with him entirely, i am sitting back and listening and saying to myself, this is never going to happen. all the things we need to happen are never going to happen because the gridlock, the contradiction of campaign contributions going in to both parties' pockets, yet with the reality of legislation that we need to pass to eliminate, for example, what the first caller said, oil subsidies. it is a major contradiction. we are all asleep at the wheel except for c-span. i am listening and i am saying it is a vicious circle and w

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that is what nsa does. it has been the greatest privilege and honor to work with them. they take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing they do in kasich during this nation. so when people think, but they will have all this stuff at the utah data center, that is baloney. [laughter] i think that we need the american people to know that that is not true. i cannot and i do not -- i try not to go up publicly every time somebody says something bad about the agency, but from my perspective that is ludicrous. i will not come out and say, here is what we are doing at utah. that would be ridiculous as well, because it would give our adversaries a tremendous advantage. we are not going to do that. >> i am from china central television. according to american newspapers last month, there were six specially-trained chairmen in cyber warfare who graduated. is this another evidence of showing that america is achieving priority from the general battlefield? what are your comments? fenty. >> defending our country in cyberspace is one of our most importan

directorate was supposed to analyze intelligence and information from other agencies, inlcuding cia and nsa, involving threats to the homeland and evaluate vulnerabilities in the nation's infrastructure. something we definitely need to be doing. emergency preparedness would oversee domestic disaster response and training. border security would streamline all port-of-entry operations and the s&t directorate would acquire scientific and technological tools to secure the homeland. the initial strategy has clearly morphed into something different. we all learned that merging government functions is difficult, and the threats against us have not been static. dhs has evolved. but so have our enemies. while dhs has experienced real success, there have also been some hiccups and significant growing pains along the way. it's certainly not the first department to run into a few problems. to fix those problems, we should not rearrange the chairs. what we should do is make a clear assessment of what works and what does not. here are some of the functions that execute well -- last year as he said, custo