we did hear from the head of the syrian national council who said that the russians have put forth some sort of a new proposal for the opposition group it's not clear what that proposal will be but that they will continue to discuss this in a subsequent talks we also heard that the head of the syrian national council said that an intervention by the u.n. security council of the best solution to the syrian crisis in a short position of this opposition group the main one in syria or mainstream it more or less the same they want to end the removal of assad before a dialogue takes place but he's the chair of the council reiterated that statement again essentially calling for talks with people who are not responsible in his words for the killings and crimes of president assad. bosco's actually put together a draft resolution that was circulated yesterday that essentially suggests extending the e.u. and observer to british mission for another three months of that vicious supposed to run around judge allied twentieth twenty first and of course the mission was to oversee a cease fire that was l

, now much more gingerly describes its would be equivalent, the syrian national council, as just a not the legitimate representative of the syrian people. british government sources deny they have any concerns of a possible over the influence of the muslim brotherhood in the council, but they are constantly urging it to be as inclusive as possible of all syrian communities and political groups. as for turkey, its border crossings with syria are now closed, something the government here, led by a sony-islamic party, is encouraging chaos by trying to bring down the secular assad regime dominated by the minority and backed by shia iran. >> this is part of our prime minister's great middle east project to redesign the region. what began in geneva and egypt has now got stuck in syria, but next will come iran here to make it easier to attack, they want a new government in syria, so they are sparking a sectarian war. >> mahmoud has the same fear of sectarianism. >> unfortunately, they are the supporters of the regime and the people who are fighting now, the syrian people. the syrians wi

not a positive development in that regard either unfortunately what we heard from the syrian national council representative yesterday was essentially that they've they see iran as having lost any credibility any ability to sway influence over these discussions they accuse the arabians of essential assisting the assad government of being equally responsible in the crimes perpetuated by the assad government that was in the words of the syrian national council delegate yesterday perhaps had iran been involved in these negotiations earlier and on sort of at the last minute when the talks are really coming to a crucial point perhaps that that sort of influence and diplomacy could have been salvaged but considering how late they're being brought into these discussions by the international community it really doesn't look like they're going to be able to hold that much sway over these talks at this point in time. all right lizzie thanks very much indeed for bringing us this is a coffin of reporting there. a political riot or an activist sara flounders as violence will only stop before in support of

and european up powers namely and of course with the syrian national council leader calling for the the u.n. security council to consider a military solution it doesn't really seem like that's going to boost the argument here we were we wound the clock back and had more powers at the table more dialogue with different factions within syria perhaps things could have turned out differently i mean if we look at the regional players here a saudi arabia namely and iran they have never been brought to the table formally a by the powers in the u.n. that was one of the proposals actually that the russian government had come out what they offered to host the talks right here involving more regional players trying to sort of get all the muscle power possible to try to resolve this conflict peacefully but again it really seems like all the sides of dug in and are really changing from their positions perhaps diplomacy really won't be the answer here but i certainly hope it won't come to that we all know what happened with the example of libya unfortunately. reporting right there well our next hour

and european powers namely and of course with the syrian national council calling for the. council to consider a military solution it doesn't really seem like that's going to boost the argument here but again you know these things could change minute by minute day by day so we'll have to see what. you want as the days go by. going on for seventeen months already in all the time. the opposition has basically been refusing to come to the negotiating table to try and find some sort of peace resolution here they are in moscow again they come for talks but again there are unwilling to budge where do you think we are now when it comes in terms of prospects for international mediation efforts is that all a smokescreen i mean can you can we take any stock in mediation efforts. it's so hard to tell at this point i mean perhaps if you know we wind the clock back and have more powers at the table more dialogue with different factions within syria perhaps things could have turned out differently i mean if we look at the regional players here saudi arabia namely in the iran they have nev

expected in moscow between the main syrian opposition alliance and russia's top diplomat the syrian national council hopes to persuade foreign minister sergei lavrov that russia should help them out president bashar asad a moscow wants to hear whether rebel forces are committed to a peaceful solution while it's now gets more on this from parties there's a coffee this morning out as you know on the surface it looks like the signs have little common ground but what can we actually expect from the talks. but unfortunately it's personally that lack of common ground that makes any sort of prospect of a breakthrough in today's talks difficult to envision and it's not just a lack of common ground between the russian position and the syrian national council but the divisions within the sphere. in opposition groups themselves which of course were unfortunately very clearly evident at last week's meeting the meeting in cairo where divisions are not unity dominated news headlines unfortunately but what a boils down to is this sixteen months of unabated violence have made it very clear for all sides involved no

and so she has taken the same line as the syrian national council and the free syrian army so also this is meant to be climbdown by the united states to accept what kofi annan i think you know very good intentions is now proposing well kofi annan the u.n. envoy is now touring the middle east and he is and to iran now but what's the point of his visit given that iran was invited to the geneva summit last month. well the fact that iran wasn't invited to the. geneva summit last month was responding which is that the friends of syria so-called don't want iran to be part of any negotiations and i think the point should be when we look at the only reason situation that iran should be part of any negotiations because iran is a regional player as important as egypt or as turkey but the fact is that for reasons of their own the united states in particular but supported by the gulf states and picked by saudi arabia want to totally excluded iran and keep it on the sidelines and this underlines the point that what's happening in syria from their point of view is also about iran it's not just about

they will continue to discuss this in a subsequent talks we also heard that the head of the syrian national council said that an intervention by the un security council a deep deep best solution to the syrian crisis in a short position of this opposition group the main one in syria means that more or less the same they want the removal of assad a before a dialogue takes place he's the chair of that council reiterated that statement again especially calling for talks with people who are not responsible in his words for the killings and crimes of president assad so again the position has not changed thus far as we have a sound of a russia is also working to extend the u.n. observer mission in syria what one of the proposals being put forth by moscow. right whatever that mission is supposed to run alex around judge ally twentieth twenty first and of course the mission was to oversee a cease fire that has largely ceased to exist there has not been a ceasefire in syria and so what the russians are proposing is that the u.n. monitors focus reshift their efforts on looking for a political solution politic

the position of the syrian national council which again we have to keep in mind is the largest opposition group involved here is that no negotiations over a transitional government can take place without assad stepping down from office first this was reiterated by the delegates in moscow yesterday when they said no negotiations with assad are possible on the their agenda the problem is how do you put together a diplomatic solution how do you put together talks when one side is essentially digging in and skills and saying no talks before action takes place moscow's actually put together a draft resolution that was circulated yesterday that essentially suggests extending the u.n. observer to british mission for another three months and shifting that observer mission from monitoring a cease fire which is clearly has has not done terry much to date to sort of focusing on some sort of a political transition in a political solution to the situation in syria unfortunately of course we have opposition from a certain powers western powers within the security council who are now pushing for a diffe

the national council doesn't represent all of the syrians and i think with some pressure being poured on the u.s. and see if there might be a change of mind you have to recall here that. the western powers and the other our powers of the world have stated very clearly that they want out of power for example hillary clinton not all of that but for the days are numbered and i think that these members of the syrian national council are very much influenced than actually i have to say as to why this state visit to the stance of the west in general so when they're when they said done with the opposition i think of mr in one way or another this means that russia is sitting down in directly with the west and the west and so what happens internationally i believe here is very important if the west for example if we see a change in stance on the part of the west then i think you will see very simply a sea change in stance on the part of the opposition specifically the s.n.c. and do you think moscow will succeed in putting pressure on the opposition in this meeting because it is significant isn

problems he's going to encounter is when he begins talking to the other side because the syrian national council and the free syrian army both of course are integrated have made it clear that they will not enter any or not contemplate any solution without the disappearance of bashar al assad from the same he cannot be a part of the negotiations and they have the united states behind them hillary clinton has been very forthright manner of the last couple of weeks you might remember that only a few days ago she told the new so-called friends of syria meeting in paris that russia and china should have to pay a price for staying on the sidelines as she called her well of course what she calls staying off the sidelines of. russia and china blocking any attempt by nature to bomb syria although the fact that iran wasn't invited to the geneva summit last month of just one thing which is that the friends of syria so-called don't want iran to be part of any negotiations and i think the point should be when we look at the only regional situation that iran should be part of any sense because iran is a regio

ongoing crisis the sixteen months long crisis here in syria we've been hearing from both syrian national council turkey based opposition umbrella and free syrian army military when all of the opposition that can be no solution unless president bashar al assad steps aside we haven't heard any official reaction from damascus so far but of course kept this isn't is growing and fears are growing that with the opposition now claiming they will not accept they interrogate them and if i saw it and his closest allies will also take part in that that this latest peace should mr default in geneva with all they remain as solution paid for we have been able to speak to all of the people here on the streets of damascus and they've been saying that all they want is peace and security and safety to come back to the country they don't oppose as part of this government if only this helps to stop the violence here in the country this is indeed a very ugly conflict in syria and the ugliest thing is that if when children are being involved now in this crisis here's my report on that this may be. the place for these

military intervention possible it was meant to support the people of syria i did not assert the syrian national council as a sole legitimate representative of the syrian people urged us to take an active part in the meeting was the realisation that the only parties represented in its deliberations will be those who come to the table certainly the conference does represent somebody but we need to be clear that no single group is capable of toppling a despotic regime such as the syrian government especially if they haven't got the public on their side and now we have some people based outside syria committing clear with their the opposition and the people stand behind them what it really is is a kind of creature of politics and an insult to the people the syrian national council was merely one of the parties and later at the conference they should realize that they are but one group within the opposition and they are not entitled to speak on behalf of the entire opposition and they seem to be starting to realize this however with great difficulty i say this was michelle a kilo member of the syrian democr

hope was already fading even before the delegates in switzerland returned to their homes the syrian national council and see and the free syrian army the political and military forces spearheading the uprising both financed from and based abroad have made it clear they can be no solution with us are in power as allowed in the geneva agreement homebase a position is less direct though some still warn it's too late for dialogue the unanswered party boycotted may's parliamentary elections its leader has said the time has come for all sides to make sacrifices and the government should lead the way. the peace plan will all the work of assad hands over control of the armed forces and security to the interim government they should start seeing the free syrian army and others who are against them as the opposition know everyone agrees some say the syrian opposition is too fragmented to be trusted larp again only those who really want dialogue should be thought of as legitimate opposition and who that there's a will the geopolitical interests of big regional players out there we're sure to see more games bei

are in the capital and foreign minister sergei lavrov is due to meet representatives of the syrian national council later on tuesday they reportedly want to persuade russia to get behind foreign intervention. a british m.p. admits politicians were useless and uncovering the truth behind the barclays scandal while the bank of england's deputy governor has denied claims he gave barclays hands to manipulate lending rates in two thousand and eight. and russians and basic necessities to the ravaged southern region of cross and dark emergency workers and volunteers are trying to help those affected by flash floods. while next year in our view would discuss russia's position on syria with the chairman of the foreign affairs committee in russia's lower house of parliament. do you think the events unfolding in syria are in line with the interested to syrian people. there's a civil war going on in syria and it's only the syrian political opposition that's benefiting from it because the opposition took up arms and use violence to achieve their goals i'm convinced that most syrians don't want to have this arme

s carried out by the syrian national council there when i say from supporters of creating mayhem in some areas and they are deliberately carrying out these are crossties so they can be blamed on to. the regime the regime does its own planes we know that but these people are by no means on the side of the angels as soon as they've protected if we're going to have sanctions why not impose on sanctions on these armed groups that are creating made him in that country it is not only our service that has become very clear over the last few weeks and one can't simply say that this is justified because of who they are fighting against you know the syrian national council it is the favored group of the western countries the only way of forward is negotiation discussion constitution constituent assembly and that it is now obvious that the west is not going to lead because they are affectively backing the people who are opposed to any negotiate so talk. and elsewhere in the region anti-government protests in bahrain aren't dying down despite the authorities as ban on opposition rallies there were f

this crisis strictly with the armed opposition and also the opposition that is around the syrian national council as well as the other islamist groups which have refuse all peace plans that have been put forward by the united nations envoy kofi annan. a little later in the broader ground we're picture the conflict and see where from a different angle with a country once popular movie industry now ostracized in the arab states which supported the rebels. tens of thousands of people attended a funeral in saudi arabia for an activist killed during recent demonstrations the rest was fueled by the detention of dissidents and growing calls for political freedoms and civil rights political analyst dr more sense things united states backing that contradicts the democracy it preaches. they sold the saudis with the backing of the americans they thought the. people of slaves under their government that's why they are. peaceful people demonstrating in order to demand some i mean durations and in their districts they want a certain kind of dignity and honor and try to have social welfare and be a place where

the see the national council doesn't represent all of the syrians and i think with some pressure being put on b s n c there might be a change of mind you have to recall here that western powers and the other our powers of world have stated very clearly that they want out of power these members of the syrian national council are very much to influence than actually i have to say perched to one of the statements were to the stance of the west in general the russians have shown that they have been more even handed approach now the tide is turning in favor of what we could call the russian chinese iranian club i mean coffee i learned right after visiting by shot her so he goes ahead and pays a visit to iran and iraq coffee i learned according to my information during his talks with showed us that he focused on the geneva meeting and didn't view of any importance or didn't even mention the so-called friends of syria meeting which was held in france meaning i think that i learn knows the solution with russia. and china and that the west really here has limited ability my information from was

representatives of the syrian opposition are right here in moscow for talks the syrian national council says it wants russia to persuade president assad to step down but ruled out any negotiations with the regime as u.n. peace envoy kofi annan visits iran following his meeting with assad jeremy sold associate professor of middle east politics of bilk and university in turkey says damascus and tehran the see more committed to peace than that of the opposition and its backers. kofi annan had full cooperation from both governments and they going along with his plan for negotiations without preconditions the problems he's going to encounter is when he begins talking to the other side because the syrian national council and the free syrian army of course are integrated have made it clear that they will not enter any will not contemplate any solution without the disappearance of bashar assad from the scene he cannot be a part of the negotiations and they have the united states behind them hillary clinton has been very forthright in her manner of the last couple of weeks you might remember tha

council possibly as soon as tomorrow. that draft resolution is under chapter 7 and that means it would result in sanctions if the syrian regime does not follow-through. and, lastly, the syrian nationalncil said if the security council does not act they will take this to a regional level, and do whatever they can on a local level, with neighboring countries to try and out of the assad regime. they say this since the 6-point piece plan was presented more than a month ago, some 4,000 syrians have died. >>shepard: thank you from the united nations. a big question is if they are moving their chemical weapons around why? and judith miller is here, adjunct protester at the manhattan institute. why do this? >>guest: that is the debate. people such as the highest ranking diplomat to defect, believe that they are moving them because they are planning to use them. >>shepard: what is what he says he believes. >>guest: yes, and there is no confirmation of his report that they may have been used in the city of homs but the israelis have a different explanation. they think the chemicals are being moved to safeguard them. in other words they are take them out of the areas where rebels are particula

has failed to persuade russia to help them out president said during talks in moscow the syrian national council insisted that once go before there can be any transition which russia doesn't agree with and some analysts believe the opposition isn't really interested in mediation the only thing that the opposition wants at this point and alliance with the western countries and the countries in the gulf that are backing them is regime change in damascus they have rejected the initial peace plan that was put forward by kofi anon and the united nations that was indorsed by the syrian government by other forces throughout the region by russia as well as china but the backers of the syrian national congress and the syrian so-called free syrian army have opposed any effort aimed at dialogue to bring about a political solution to this crisis they have refused to acknowledge any type of cease fire they have continued their aggressive activities against the syrian government and as a result of that the syrian government has had no choice except to engage in these military maneuvers that we've seen over th

crisis strictly lies with the armed opposition and also the opposition that is around the syrian national council as well as the other islamist groups which have refuse all peace plans that have been put forward by the united nations envoy kofi annan. a little later in the program we picture of a conflict in syria from a different angle for the country one popular movie industry now ostracize arab states support. the massive flooding in russia's south that's killed more than one hundred sixty has spurred growing numbers of people into action hundreds of volunteers have been tackling the black sea crisis themselves on friday night thousands of homes were hit by what locals described as a tsunami why save those caused by torrential rains to get around the record levels of rainfall in invaded their property many other victims have everything now have to rebuild their lives from the beginning but they're not having to do it over artists having been among about organizing by the way but across the garbage from. this is now the biggest camps where volunteers have come together to try and put together p