pipe, for instance, would be an area. is that something you can provide to this committee? >> yes, mr. chairman. >> how long would that take to get to us? >> i'll take that back as an action item right after the hearing, sir. >> when's a reasonable time for you to -- >> far be it for me -- >> yes, you're in charge here. you make a decision. what's the date? >> uh -- >> all right. july 3 you would. is that fair? >> you read my mind, sir. [laughter] >> we'll now recognize the gentleman from tennessee, mr. duncan, for five minutes. >> thank you mr. chairman, mr. chairman. chief fisher, just out of curiosity, can you give me a rough number of how large or how many border patrol agents there were when you started with the agency 26 years ago? >> there was less than 3,000, sir. >> less than 3,000. >> yes, sir. >> the reason i ask that, i remember we gave big increases in funding for border control in the '90s and then now, of course, we've heard ms. gambler say that since 2004 we've gone from 10,000 agents to 21,000, i think it was. and, of course, now the senate has passed an amendment sayi