but the republican party had no desire. and i think 2012 and the campaign, some of those republican voters felt that, and saw, okay, if you're not interested in our assistance, and not interested in what we think, and our view of the country, we'll sit at home, the heck with it. >> well, the tea party, if you actually talk to these tea party members, they're not cooks, i mean, they're airline pilots, shop keepers, family members, these are people with regular jobs and yet they're demonized. >> precisely they're demonized because they don't understand the politics. and they're not of washington and they can't be controlled. they can't be nominated by the party. there's an unfortunate thing happening with the republican party. and as a conservative it appears to me the republican party is trying to push itself away from its conservative base on a number of issues. and i -- it's been a very eye opening thing for me. i always thought that as republicans, we oppose democrats. we wanted to beat them. i don't see that. i don't see

sean, what you're describing is identifying for a populist candidate to overtake the republican party. plus taking a step back this is the party of the koch brothers. they won't let a populist candidate come in and overtake the party and just like they're not going to win the latino vote overnight i don't see a populist candidate coming overnight and winning this swath of the republican party. yes, ted cruz is quite popular in texas but also one of the worst performing state when is it comes to latino participation. they have 2.3 million latinos n unregistered for voters. it's not in the interest of the republican party to look at this and say we need more white voters. it's not just white voters they're turning off a whole swath of white female voters with their agenda and have to start looking at not just how do you start wooing the disaffected white voter but changing your policies and brand so, yes, you may be able to win the next congressional race but what will you do six, seven years when the demographics respect on your side or are your policies. >> i want to pick up on this a

that split in the party isn't sitting well with new jersey governor chris christie, rising republicanr from new jersey. he took aim at rand paul speaking at the governors forum just yesterday. >> this strain of libertarianism going through both parties right now and making big headlines, i think, is a very dangerous thought. >> senator rand paul for example. >> you can name any number of people and he's one of them. these esoteric intellectual debates i want them to come to new jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. and they won't, because that's a much tougher conversation to have. >> paul, the senator from kentucky, fought back today, saying on twitter, quote, christie worries about the danger of freedom. i worry about the danger of losing that freedom. spying without warrants is unconstitutional. is the hawkish wing of the republican party starting to fade? will democrats be able to capitalize on the new division in the gop? i'm fascinated by it myself. david axelrod is an msnbc political analyst, and a former senior adviser. senate republ

that brought the republican party back into power in congress not people like peter king but he's being a little bit tricky with the american people who don't understand the details of this the amendment did not defund the entire n.s.a. program it had nothing to do with espionage overseas it only said that if you're going to get metadata of an american citizen they have to be specifically targeted themselves you have to be related to something they're investigated which on the blanket surveillance of everybody so talking about isolationist is a little bit of a red herring so in these then there's something also dangerous about saying that overseas surveillance is find there needs to be research in the matter because we talk with people overseas and we're seeing that the way these programs have run is that it might be targeted toward someone overseas. but it's collecting lots of people here in the united states as well and who knows if we're collaborating with the british government or collaborating with the german gov

he's picking a fight in the republican party. is the republican party, however, still the hawk party it was under "w"? i'm not so sure. plus, what are we to make of the zimmerman case. she said in her heart, zimmerman was guilty. she voted to acquit. she said she had to acquit him. but now she feels she owes trayvon martin's family an apology. why would she apologize? this is complicated and we're going to get to it. this time, how the across the board spending cut known as the sequester is costing america 1.6 million jobs. >>> and let me finish tonight with the republican civil war over war. and this is "hardball." the place for politics. uh-oh! guess what day it is?? guess what day it is! huh...anybody? julie! hey...guess what day it is?? ah come on, i know you can hear me. mike mike mike mike mike... what day is it mike? ha ha ha ha ha ha! leslie, guess what today is? it's hump day. whoot whoot! ronny, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? i'd say happier than a camel on wednesday. hump day!!! ya

where's the real republican party? which one of those? where's the real republican party? >> i think we're going to find that out over the next three years. i want the republican party to be a party of strong national defense and a party who, for instance, can reach out to labor unions, construction unions, police officers, firefighters -- these are people who are socially conservative and want to agree with us, and so many people in our party drive them away. to me, the overriding concern has to be national defense, national security, and not be apologizing for america. when you have rand paul actually comparing snowden to martin luther king or henry david thoreau, this is madness, this is the anti-war democrats in the 1960s that destroyed their party for almost 15 years. i don't want that happening to our party. >> there have been two statements made by republicans. one is that, if congress does not pass some kind of major immigration reform, it cannot rewin the white house. and the other is, if republicans in the ho

and so observers of the republican party concluded the party was going to have to change. >> the future of the republican party, hispanics are a crucial voting bloc, so what will republicans do to bin them over? >> we've got to get rid of the immigration issue altogether. it's simple for me to fix it. that is in a position that i've evolved on. >> the first thing that we need to do is we need to be, you know, forward leaning on immigration. >> the republican party is going to have to ask itself if the hardline position mitt romney assuredly took during the primary season to win this election, hardline law and order position on immigration is a position for them. >> thus was formed the gang of eight and marco rubio's rise to republican stardom as the man who could bridge both worlds. now with the most comprehensive immigration reform staring them in the face, republicans and center right are beginning to rethink their logic. they're starting to think maybe, just maybe we can just get by on white people. much of this recent thinking has come straight from sean trend of "real clear politic

coming up, another civil war in the republican party. this time it's the hawks versus the doves. new jersey's chris christie slammed rand paul, the party's fronts runner all the polls saying the debate he's leading over privacy when it comes to fighting terrorists is down right, it's his word, dangerous. he's picking a fight in the republican party. it the republican party however still the hawk party it was under w? i'm not so sure. plus, what are we to make of the juror in the zimmerman case out there saying the defendant got away with murder? she says in her heart, zimmerman was guilty. she voted to acquit. based on the evidence and under the law, she said she had to. now she feels she owes the martin family an apology? why would she apologize if she felt the verdict was correct? and the latest report in our unkindest cut series. how the across the board spending cut known as the sequester is costing america $1.6 million jobs. let me finish tonight with the republican civil war over war. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] a doctor running late fo

guest: the republican party was the party of foreign policy for decades. peak in the joint is w. bush -- the peak in busheorge h.w. came.stration after he lost the election and lostut of power, realists sway. they were replaced by new conservatives, who had a different view of the world. -- whoho shaped the port shaped the foreign policy in which 42 and bush 43. james baker, secretary of state. in the second bush administration, the news -- the new conservative members the would-neo conservative members -- neo conservative members. a different foreign policy took over. host: what struck you the most in terms of the republican party and where do you see it going down the road? what astonishes me is how split the republican party has become. the libyaaround intervention, it has pulled out into the open. he'll consult since are now led by john mccain and lindsay gramm. there are the risch change tea party policy wings. and have been opened and criticizing the meal service. when i was interviewing senator disdain for open the neo conservatives and the directio

he doesn't speak for the republican party. republican party is not a monolith.e of good faith, of good will who are coming along, who are evolving, just like our president evolved. so the fact is that we're trying to find a way to work with republicans at all levels and we'll find allies. we have allies like steve schmidt, allies like jimmy la sylvia, a tea party member also on our payroll -- a member of the tea party? >> you emphasize -- >> they exist. i was shocked. i said you remember the tea party, you believe in marriage equality? absolutely. how many of you are there? he said 10,000. i'm like, you got to work with us. >> your point on the president's evolution is such an important one. you sensed the reticence on the part of this president to be very clear on the issue of marriage equality. we know was the vice president who sort of jumped the gun. >> thank god for joe biden. never thought i'd say that. but that said, part of what he learned and i think some of us learned as a result of that is that precisely the communities some thought would reject the p

they have their own personal issues and so -- and reasons to do so and to stay in the republican party. so, you know, i'll respect those but i hope that they're able to see that right now republicans are making it harder for hispanics and right now republicans are not looking at those 11 million undocumented immigrants that are human beings that are in this country. >> john: we all know tons of republicans who are very open mind and get along great with minorities. would you say that intolerance toward minorities generally is one of the bigger problems the g.o.p. has right now? >> well, definitely there is a culture of intolerance like i said before. we've seen a lot of examples more recently at a gathering of republican voters, you know, our republican congressman dissent told some nasty things and was told why don't you learn some english. obviously the congressman knows english. we've got other people that are saying some things that i don't even want to repeat on camera that are hurtful for hispanics and latinos, you know, senator rubio -- has been chastised for his hispanic herita

whose attitude is i want fewer people in the republican party and fewer victoriesyou can't really trust a guy who thought that ronald reagan was too liberal in 1984 and supported somebody else for president. but most republicans like this and it's just finding -- it's like ben was his kind of republican. jack kemp. the kind of republicans who were broad in thinking about how do we broaden our base, how do we broaden our support. how do we get more people inside the tent and take our timeless principles and apply them to the new situations. >> i would only say though that moods and parties change. there are periods when parties are looking for converts and there are periods where people are looking for hert tax. >> i disagree. not parties. it's leaders in parties. there's sometimes when leaders in parties -- the mob goes this way and a leader can go that way. do you think it was easy in 2020 with some of the people -- we had to deal with? the people were sellouts but the base of the party was responding to it. i remember after the election we were -- clinton saw bus

the republican party's share of the hispanic vote has actually declined. it fell after president reagan signed the original amnesty legiation into law in 1986. tonight we'll be asking republicans national committee chairman reince priebu abt what benefit the republican party would gain from the administration and ao hear the chairman of the veterans affair committee, congressman jeff miller on theenefits back log at the v.a. that he calls a national crisis. and the obama white house ungulfed in scandal. we've been asking ourviewers to joining us to assess a number of issues that are pretty important to the republican party and the future, issues like immigration, national security, we're joined by the chairman ofhe republican national committee, reince priebus. >> thanks for having me he. it's a beautiful place. >> well, thank you, we spif it up just for special guest >> nice elephant behind me. >> we do that for, as i say, important guests. let'start with what's going on with some of your spokesmen. you have senator john mccain, lindsay graham, kelly ayott

it's going to continue to be a part of republican party politics. ll be some diffusion of the issue in the future as technology changes, turns the debate but for now republicans will continue to put this pressure on. >> i want to talk about what the future is for pro-choice republicans and what the future is for democrats who oppose abortions, if there is a future as well or a partisan issue going forward. humans. even when we cross our "ts" and dot our "i's", we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because making mistakes is only human, and so are we. we also offer new car replacement, so if you total your new car, we'll give you the money for a new one. call liberty mutual insurance at... and ask us all about our auto features, like guaranteed repairs, where if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, the repairs are guaranteed for life. so call... to talk with an insurance expert

it was part and parcel of who we were. >> what's the real republican party? g to land. >> that's what's been eroding over the last 20, 30 years. >> senator tom coburn is speaking out against fellow republicans who raised the deaf withholding money for government unless obama care is defunded. >> richard burr said he thought that was the dumbest idea he ever heard. >> one of the dumbest ideas you've ever heard >> he said supporters of the idea are being dishonest. >> you've reached a peculiar path when coburn is the voice of reason in the senate. >> aren't those all signs of a party that's split. >> the neanderthals are fighting with the crow mag nons. >> when you're rand paul martin luther king, had enry david thorough, this is madness. >> this is the anti-war left wing democrats of the 1960s. of. >> that nominated george mcgovern and destroyed their party for almost 20 years. >> i don't want that to happen to our party. >> shutting down the government is a suicidal political tactic. >> one of the problems that the republican party may have. >> and i said, do

>> [indiscernible] >> to be introduced as a strategist for the republican party when karl rove is on e platform is a little daunting. i think we all know karl. he was just talking about the last election mainly. he clearly is the premier republican strategist of my generation or our time. about theant to talk last election particularly. that is obviously relevant. i do want to talk a little bit about the challenges our party faces going forward, mainly from a policy perspective. then you can go to the audience and you can ask anything you want. it seems to make, the question about technology, the question about demographics, all of that is very important. the question about whether candidate recruitment was right, whether mitt romney connected with voters was right. but the future of the republican party, it seems to me, depends on whether there is a policy rationale that is compelling for the hardy. i think there are serious challenges and i want to address different hearts about with each of you if i can. like to all, i would start with mike on something that i think is the most sig

willwill the republican party doom that aspiration? >> yes.u look at marriage equality and immigration the republican party is softening in marriage equality. they're instrumental in getting to about we are whether it's more and more senators or state legislators helping to pass it in the state they're uninstrumental. but the way we're seeing republicans handle immigration reform they hate brown people a little bit more than they hate gay people. you cannot appeal to hispanic votevoters just because you have a person of cuban descent pushing immigration reform. >> michael: especially when it's not defined by the cuban american experience heater. that's something that the republicans are naive to, as well. >> if you're going to push immigration reform just so you can get hispanic voters, hispanic voters will know that's exactly why you're pushing reform. and all the other crazy things onon the reform. next they'll want to build a dome over the house. >> michael: and then sell the naming rights. they want to put the dome up. exxonmobil on the si

yes, it broadened the views of the republican party and to be representative of all regions of the country. and now, unfortunately, that is not the case. although, i think there are more moderate republicans, you know, than people realize. >> stephen: are they in the closet? >> no, they-- ( laughter ) so to speak, yes. >> stephen: i'm not one of them. i'm pretty happy with the direction the republican party. i kind of like it. strength, no compromise, scrij lance. now, yu book is called, "fighting for common ground: how we can fix the stalemate in congress." -- >> you say, you know, they're not getting anything done. getting? done, sell me on it. ( laughter ) john boehner just said he-- he just said the job of congress is not to pass laws. they should be judged by how many laws they repeal. mitch mcconnell, leader in the senate, said their number one priority was to make obama a one-term president. nowhere in that is getting something done mentioned. >> well, that's a problem. which i disagree with them on. because i think we have to solve problems. that is the purpose of being in public o

comprehensive immigration reform, he has complete credibility with the most conservative republicans in our party and the most conservative republicans in the house and, you know, the hope for people like me who care about the future of the republican party, doing the right thing and then reaping the political benefits after doing the right thing is that those voices will prevail. >> we'll see. it's going to be -- >> you're on it. masks, monkeys, and bands. >> next time there will be monkeys. >> there must be monkeys. >> nicolle wallace, you're a dear friend for doing this. former communications director for george w. bush, and former senior adviser for mccain/palin. it's great it have you here. thank you so much. we'll be right back. [ heart beating, monitor beeping ] woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate increases ] man: a few inches of water caused all this? [ heart rate increases ] woman #2: but i don't even live near the water. what you don't know about flood insurance may shock you -- including the fact that a preferred risk policy starts as low as

conservatives i don't think that everybody within the republican party is bigoted anti gay cetera unfortunately unfortunately the party does need to cleanse that from its messaging i think to be very critical going for twenty four to twenty sixty we know demographics are changing throughout the country the key point and i don't disagree with previous to saying i think that you have to take it in context he really does want to make sure that they stay on message and part of the problem is there's a faction that supports the republican party that expects the republican party to adhere to their principles which is the evangelicals the religious right but also at the same time how do you make sure that you stick to conservatives economy lower taxes economic growth making sure that trickle down works and that if priebus can find a way to make sure that the the that. stays consistent he might be successful in twenty four to twenty sixty some of this is i don't agree with this whole idea that there's a problem that is just the myths you but i mean it is just a myth there's also something always just.

way through congress may be in the hands now of some of the most conservative members of the republican party. house speaker john boehner says he will not move on the senate's gang of eight bill until it has the pport of the majority of the republicans in the house. and it's unclear whether they will support it. the republican pay's share of the hispanic vote has actually declined. it fell after president reagan signed the origil amnesty legislation into law in 1986. tonight we'll be asking republicans national committee chairman reince priebus about what benefit the republican party would gain frothe administration and also hear the chairman of the veterans affair committee, congressman jeff miller on the benefs back log at the v.a. that he calls a national crisis. and the obama white house ungulfed in scandal. we've been askg our ewers to joining us to assess a number of issues that are pretty important to the republican party and the future, issues like immigration, national security, we're joined by the chairman of the republican national committee, reince priebus. >> thanks for having me

with good for the national party. >> is john boehner one of the people who believes that the republican party as a whole should kind of get behind at least some version of immigration reform for the political interests or the policy -- political interests of the party or the policy interests of the nation? >> well, boehner and his office are certainly saying that, listen, we absolutely need to do something about this. i mean, they recognize that the optics of this -- we have members who came out of that basement meeting last night who said this, straight out. you know, look, we recognize the optics of this. we realize if we're seen as doing nothing, then it looks bad for us. boehner certainly understands that. there are other leaders in his party who are making that argument behind the scenes. but you also have to recognize that even democrats think that in this case, it's almost better for them, as far as controlling the house, for republicans to be viewed as obstructionists, and democrats know that. and that gives them an incentive to not really go along with what the republicans are doing

party. i have yet to meet to me republicans whose attitude is i want fewer people in the republican party with fewer victories. you've got to trust your guy. you cannot trust a guy who thought ronald reagan was too liberal in 1984 and support someone else for president, but most republicans like this and it's just find the right, it's like been. jack kemp was this kind of republican. the kind of republicans who are broad and think about how do we broaden our base can had we broaden our support, how do we get more people inside the tent and hodo we take our timeless principles and apply them to the new situation? >> i would only say though that moved in party change. there are periods when parties are looking for converts and there are periods when parties are looking for heritage. >> no, no. i disagree. it's not party to its lead in party. sometimes in parties -- the mob goes this way and a leader can go that way. you think it was easy in 2000 with some of the people, gingrich, the compassionate conservatives were solid. the basis party was responding to a. i remember after the election we wer

but this is not widespread within the republican party. st republicans realize, first and foremost, that was a very insensitive thing to say and to think. but also, politically speaking, they realized the latino vote is an extremely critical voting bloc moving forward. especially in the southwest. texas, arizona, even southern california and some other states. it doesn't make sense politically and it doesn't make sense from a moral standpoint. i don't think there is a split within the republican party. >> let me get raul's response. the number one reason this thing actually matters, even if it is annoying. i think it confirms the self-perpetuating to nothing congress. beyond that, this makes it much harder for congress to do anything. speak to that and any rebuttal you want to make. >> right. this type of rhetoric. it doesn't reflect the majority of the republican party. in the void that we have of leadership on this issue, his voice is the loudest. that's dangerous for the gop. and i think the more these type of comments are out there, unf

. >> the republican party's on life support in the northeast. >> party identification the percentage ns who call themselves republicans. >> the republicans are in danger of becoming an endangered species. >> all-time low. lower than water guaheet sad and cheap that he would use the cloak of 9/11 victims and say, oh, i'm the only one who cares about these victims. >> that means they're in for a sea of bloviating. a sea of bloviating which will likely lead nowhere. >> not by saying gimme gimme all the time. >> the neanderthals are fighting with the crow mag nons. >> rand paul comparing snowden to martin luther king, this is madness. this is the anti-war left wing democrats of the 1960s who destroyed their party for almost 20 years. >> your revolution is over. >> i don't want that happening to our party. >> the bums will always lose. you hear me? >> let's get right to our panel, joining us now is professor michael eric dyson from george two university and republican strategist hogan gidley. welcome back to both of you. professor after listening to "top lines," i'm seriously concerned we'

i think there is this noninterventionist streak in the republican party. though, is i think it's also easy to overstate that, like, if you go back to that nsa vote last week, a majority of republicans wanted to continue the program. a majority of democrats voted against it. michele bachmann got down in the well of the house and talked jihad, jihad, jihad. >> right. >> and didn't want anything to do with this amendment. i do think it's an open question, really, where the base is. >> absolutely. it's an interesting thing, where more democrats voted for this but the action in initiating these things are coming from libertarian republicans like rand paul. and, yes, republicans when they're out of power suddenly get skeptical about its use. >> right. >> which is why this fight is actually important out there, right? because right now there isn't really any democratic action on the space where barack obama used to be. which is a critic of overreach in the war on terror. hillary clinton's not going to be bringing that game in 2016. the president obviously cannot.

in the 1970s, russia's focus is on, is initially on the possibility of actually placing a republican party with the new conservative party. i found a letter in which he said to a friend, my problem -- this is about 1975. my problem with the republican party isn't that it's not conservative enough. it's that it isn't big enough. yeah we wanted to win in republicans after watergate in the mid-70's were in terrible shape. i won't recite the details but a lot of them probably felt they were back where they were in the 1930s. russia wants to take this opportunity to start a new conservative party. not rigidly conservative but consciously conservative, one in which the liberal wing of the republican party would not be present and therefore would not have the veto party that -- power that he thought they had. he believed the key to this was one not necessarily the most important thing but an important thing was to moderate economic conservatism and to be a little more populist, recognize that the needs in the position of the little guy. he always had some of that in him but also to welcome social

is he hurting the republican party? put that question to brit hume. later, bernie goldberg and carl rove warming up in the bullpen. we are coming right back. >> bill: personal story segment tonight, as you may know republican senator rand paul from kentucky is a man who thinks outside the box, especially his party's becomes. in addition to opposing most american action overseas, senator paul has been very outspoken in condemning the national security agency and sticking up for the whistle blower. >> when you have rand paul actually comparing snowden to martin luther king or henry david thorough, this is madness, this is the antiwar are west leaning democrats of the 1960's that nominated george mcgovern and destroyed their party for almost 20 years. >> bill: joining us now from washington for reaction is fox news senior analyst brit hume. do you think rand paul is hurting or helping the g.o.p. >> i think the resurgence of libertarian thinking actually on in both parties is causing problems for party leaders, these people, these libertarians occupy a spa

it's one that carries such tremendous weight because the republican party is overwhelmingly has an incentivety votes in this country because they don't vote republican. >> this is constitutional evidence. that is the issue that the court had to put in. turnout in these states is pretty much even. it's lower than the average in terms of other things. the state that has worst gap of black white registration is massachusetts. so what happened, too, if you want to continue this, rewrite it but you have to make it fit current circumstances. we're not likely to see it because they will end up writing laws about massachusetts voting. >> john: congress we're putting it back in your hands, fix section four. >> let me say, it had an effect. if you know what, in terms of the turnouts we're seeing just about equal it could be because we had a voting rights act. remember, the supreme court is to show deference to congress in this matter. they didn't say it's unconstitutional, they said we don't like your formula because it's outdated. >> it's unconstitutional to use the formula. >> john: supreme court de

so there's a fight within the republican party, now, between the smart caucus and the dumb caucus. and steve king is just the most kind of ludicrous example of the dumb caucus. boehner is caught in between. >> republicans are going to have to decide whether they belong to the steve king faction of the republican party or the get it done faction of the republican party. that's javier becerra from california, working on a version of the house bill. they propose this idea of inviting republicans to joint town halls over the august -- i think the august recess is going to be very important in terms of when happens in the future of this. msnbc political analyst, jonathan alter. thank you. >> thanks, chris. >>> we'll be right back with #click3. >>> sex scandals, more accurately sexting scandals dominating the news cycle once again, i'll talk to a woman who's living proof that while male politicians often get a second chance, women like her are not afforded the same forgiveness. >>> first i want to share the three awesomest things on the internet today. the first awesomest thing, pete souz

indiscernible] what is the evidence you can show us of people moving on this issue within the republican party and becoming more excepting? dobefore we jump to grover, you have thoughts on that, rahm? you are not just a democrat. you had to deal with republicans. [indiscernible] >> and i went back and forth. >> western it has to be a few --there has to be a few. thatt me not answer question but use it for what i would like to say, which is -- [laughter] you have two major things going on here at a cross. when ronald reagan was president, republicans had a lock elect orally on the map, and the democrats had a -- electoraly on the map, and democrats at congressional lock. cultural issues are switching to democratic strong suits. if you look at the history of where houses are going, florida where it was 10 years ago, when it will be 10 years from now, true about arizona -- go through it. then you have what has been a detriment. on the congressional side it is not the republicans have a lock, but we have a system where people are to pick the representative, but we now have representatives taking t

this is an age-old problem with the republican party.as barry goldwater against nelson rockefeller. is it a more conservative or a might be liberal republican party. >> true. >> twenty years later, reagan against george hw bush, and 30 years later, it's paul against christie. >> right. >> is the republican party going to be a big government party, its version of big government, or more faithful to the principles of the prep -- prep sigh of the individual. >> mark -- >> did i describe that without showing bias one way or the other. >> no, you did not, clearly bias one way or the other. mark, the republican party is a big tent. >> both sides come together and stand for something. what's nice, is you need a level of compromisement understand let's fight within it, but at the end of the day, what reagan said, we're republicans. >> this is where i disagree with both of you and agree with the british system. >> what? >> if the parties were based on principles, if a conservative party always stood for small government and a democratic party alw

what he said does not reflect values of the american people or the republican party.o do our work in a constructive, open and helpful way. as i said many times, we can disagree without being disagreeable. >> let's bring in our gaggle whole abide by the same concept. he writes for national review and bloomberg see view. politico's m.j. lee and stan mcmahon. this was a huge story in the latino community. steve king was on with jorge ramos. he came up from miami for this story alone. does -- and speaker boehner yesterday saying this could hurt the pathway for immigration reform. how tough were steve king's comments you think for the conservative brand, especially in the latino community? >> i think it hurt every cause with which congressman king is associated. i actually think if you are an opponent of this immigration bill and you're making serious arguments about it, against it, you ought to be the people who are most concerned about these kinds of comments because they discredit the entire idea. >> steve, as a democrat, i mean, as much as this helps the party with gro

he's not from my wing of the republican party. certainly. at i think he's doing is dangerous and wrong. and i think it will have terrible political consequences for republicans. >> just to support my friend steve because we share the same barber, i want to tell you that i also am uncomfortable with the word only out of respect for the victims of violent terrorists. >> i have the same respect. i make the point political. shorthand i'll say terrorist. go ahead. >> here's another point which is this notion, and this is the point that coburn and so many conservatives have made, they're not going to defund obama care. obama care has a self-perpetuating funding source and it's funding is largely an accounted for outside of what they can affect. >> why are threw threatening to crash it if not for terrorist reasons? >> they're threatening to crash it, chris, because ted cruz has been running for president of the united states since the very moment the texas primary was called when he defeated dave dewhurst and he's running for president. he sees this

rush limbaugh runs today's republican party. and the republicans in congress know they better tow the line. >> the media has aligned with obama to defeat republicans. >> the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. >> he never appears to be governing. >> the president is finished with governing. >> i'm about defeating them. not compromising with them. >> so you did compromise. >> we found common ground. >> why won't you say -- you're afraid of the word. >> i reject the word. >> speaker boehner must be attending rush limbaugh's speech writing workshops. one by one, the gop mimic what rush says. but what might even be worse, they refuse to denounce his ugly talk that pollutes our political conversation. >> we have a name for michelle, moochelle. mooch, mooch, moochello obama. he's a street thug. as a community organizer that's what you are. you're a street thug. there is a gay mafia that has inflicted the fear of death, political death in the republican party. as the cdc ever published a stor

how did the republican party? emancipator lose the trust in faith of an entire race? from the civil war to the civil rights movement for a century, most black americans voted republican. how did we lose that vote? >> so then paul tried in that same speech to answer his own questions and he did so by pointing to the great depression and fdr's new deal. >> i think what happened during the great depression is that african-americans understand that republicans did champion citizenship and voting rights but became impatient because they wanted economic emancipation. they languish below in every measure of economic success and oppression was harsh for those on the lowest rung of poverty at that time. everybody will get something, well republicans offered something that seemed to be less tangible, the promise of equalizing opportunity to free markets. >> but the real answer to the questions rand paul asked about why the republican party has failed to crack even 20% of the african-american vote in every election since 196