kirsten looking at this and thinking, well, if by major auto maker can i introduce it in my vehicles by myself? it would not work across the board, but it might be the tip of the iceberg to start to get the technology out there or is this something that there is just no way, too dangerous. i come to an intersection and get a false alert, so you can't do. >> a very lonely discussion as you would have. that is right that the government has to regulate. again, consumers would actually determine if this technology woodworker not because if they find value in it than that incentive, but its technology into the cars, but you still have to have regulation around it. alice come back to these two aspects, the consumer side plus technology. if the government can help to create innovation by mandating some of those aspects is proven that it can improve productivity that is doing to be the main motivation for a lot of these technologies, those two aspects of benefit office. any country in the world to will see more investment in their own infrastructure, we have to get better and smarter about u

how do you look at this, kirsten? many people said if you're going to dole out this bill and law for all americans, you and your staffers should have to also be under obama care. looks like many of the staffers aren't too keen about that? >> i don't think congress should have been under obama care. it's not what obama care was designed for. obama care designed for the individual market, not for major corporations or something like the u.s. government. that's why the federal government is not under it. congress really never should have been under it. senator chuck grassley proposed in an amendment that they put congress under obama care. i guess, you know, because under the reasoning you were just saying. so that's how it ended up that congress was under obama care. i don't think they ever should have been there in the first place. i'm not surprised they are unhappy. they had really good benefits and they don't make a lot of money as compared to the private sector. >> you're bringing the discussion full circle. if it's

2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] a look at income inequality and social mobility with new york senator kirsten gillibrand at the brookings institution starting at nine :00 a.m. eastern. live coverage on c-span2. ryan with remarks live at 4:00 eastern on c-span3. next on c-span, "q&a" with david bobb. followed by "washington journal ." the u.s. house of representatives gavels back in later. "first ladies" returns with a look at the life and career of nancy >> this week on "q&a," author and educator david bobb discusses his new book titled "humility: an unlikely biography of america's greatest virtue." >> david bobb, in your book on humility, you say humility is a wimpy virtue. what did you mean by that? >> it is often seen as that. i make the argument that it is a virtue of strength. i think humility has fallen on hard times. it is seen as a virtue as something for wimps and wallflowers. people that are going to get run over. in order to be successful, conventional wisdom says you have to be assertive, bold, even putting yourself out there, self-promoting. i think humility countermand that. it

kirsten does. you certainly look better than i do. i'm not envious of any of that as long as i have the opportunity and i'm willing to work hard to improve my circumstances, that should be the promise of america. democratic left attitude of envy, greed and entitlement. i'm entitled to liberty and the rest suspect to me. i don't think it's going to cut it will with their core constituency but i don't think it will with the rest of the country. just how the economy works, 21 percent said yeah, income inequality thinks but it's not the government's business. only 13 percent said get involved with some people make more money than others. why is the president signaling that this is going to be such a huge theme for him? is it just going to the base because the majority of people sound like they understand that's just the way the world works. >> it isn't just the way the world works. this there is a lot of education the president could be doing on this. income -- concern about income inequality isn't being envious of other people. it's when

there are people like kirsten who say, look, two out of three judges, federal district court judges havet this program that he called attention to is unconstitutional. the third disagreed. so he can be regard the as a whistle-blower. on the other hand, i don't think this country wants to be rewarding that kind of precedent. having bradley manning now in jail for rest of his life or edward snowden decide that they, know enough to release classified information. he released 1.7 million documents, without anyone's authorization. this country can't have that occurring without some penalties. but i want him back, so i would like to kind of do a kind of deal with him that would discourage others but still punishing him a little. i have to admit, kirsten is right, he did start a debate that was long overdue. jon: kirsten, some think he may have done us a service what he released about nsa spying. as judy points out, there are millions and millions of documents and perhaps methods yet to be released that could prove quite harmful to national security, don't you think? isn't that possible? >> acc

[applause] >> tomorrow we will take a look at income inequality and social mobility with social -- senator kirsten gillibrand. live coverage on c-span two. also monday at the parking institutions, house budget to the chair paul ryan. you can watch his remarks live on c-span three. coming up next on c-span, newsmakers, with mailing congressmen and house minority whip steny hoyer. politicalat the strategies that the republicans and democrats might use with the approaching 2014 midterm elections. and then at 8:00 p.m., q&a. >> "newsmakers" is pleased to welcome steny hoyer. he is the democratic leadership whip. michael lillis covers congress or the hill. >> hi. >> like to be with you. >> moderates are fleeing both parties fairly quickly. congress mcintyre and else's retirement this week. there are 15 blue dogs. two are retiring. what does this mean for the possibilities of taking the house in 2014? are these just gone? >> i do not think they are just gone. i think they were very strong candidates in their districts. they were very republican districts. redistricting has hurt both of them. i think we

"the washington post" is looking beyond the buzz of hillary clinton as bid no 2016, suggesting that kirsten gillibrand is someone to keep an eye on. she may by the junior senator from new york, but she proved in 2013 she is one to watch in 2014 and beyond. "new york times," "new yorker" "time" all ended 2013 putting the spotlight on kirsten gillibra gillibrand. a mother who often by getting in her colleagues' faces, lately that's been legislation on what had been a taboo subject, sexual assault in the military. >> one common theme in all these profiles is that you are relentless. is that fair? >> i work very hard, and i think you have to work hard. i this when you're fighting for someone who's been raped and reported that rape, he or she was told it's your own fault or told i'm not going to do anything, or told if you report this, your career is over. i have to do something about that. i feel it's my moral obligation to fight for that man or woman in the military. >> reporter: she also fights on the political battlefield, prodding female candidates to run for congress in 2014, then there's

look i think the president's problem and kirsten is absolutely right, is the president.the conservatives and republicans don't like him, in part because he is not very political. he doesn't reach out to them. he doesn't try and get to know them or listen to their points of view, and two, and here's i think what the president was trying to get to, the republicans themselves are under enormous pressure because traditional or, mainstream republicans are being challenged by the tea party conservatives. now if he is saying that fox speaks to tea party conservatives and therefore mainstream people won't deal with him that's one thing and that is not what he said. this is old theme for him. i'm kind of sorry he is going back to it. jon: let me read another part of the quote and it touches on what you you were just saying, judy. he said, as long as there is that gap between perceptions of me within the average republican primary voter and reality, it is hard for folks like john boehner to move far in my direction. i guess, kirsten, he is saying we just don't understand him. >> i

for example, i'm looking down and i see john mccain, senator from arizona, republican, who walked in with kirstenillibrand, democrat from new york. so they're sort of doing it on their own even though there's no real form decision to do this in a bipartisan way. historically what we had seen is democrats sitting on one side, republicans on the other. so you saw when the president said a democratic president said something democrats liked, one side stood up and vice versa. that i think will look different now. >> will jake tarp be announcing the arrival of the president of the united states tonight? has he now taken on that role as well? >> reporter: i would not put anything past our jake tapper. it's entirely possible, anderson. >> it's interesting dana also for those people who don't know, we mentioned this a little bit earlier, there are members of congress who spend five, six, seven hours just trying to reserve a seat on the aisle so they can kind of grip and grin the president of the united states as he passes by. >> reporter: absolutely. it's a tradition we have seen for years and years. >>

kirsten. is the legacy slipping away? >> i think the point of this article while the economy does look like it is finally turning around the president is at a point where it is probably not going to turn around enough by the time that he leaves. so you know, it is turning around but i think most americans would probably say right now they don't feel that. they don't really feel the economy is doing that well. by the time people start feeling it and there starts being great numbers versus solid numbers coming out, obama will be out of office. there isn't enough time probably for the economy to rebound at the levels you would have seen under his predecessors. jon: i wonder about the thing he will talk about any minute now, judy, the extension of unemployment benefits. 99 weeks people have been able to collect unemployment benefits for. it is kind of one of the hallmarks of his administration, this unemployment crisis we've had. >> yes it is. but, i think most people do understand that president obama took over after the worst downturn since the great depression and that of course he pivoted to health care rather than focusin

look at the history and literary life of chattanooga tennessee. saturday at noon on c-span2 and sunday at 5 p.m. on c-span three. >> senator kirsten gillibrand spoke about her proposals to help working families, including paid family and medical leave, a higher minimum wage and universal prekindergarten. the senator spoke at the social mobility summit hosted by the brookings institution for about 40 minutes. [indiscernible] >> good morning. i hope everyone is feeling bright and cheery this morning. it is sunny and a reasonable temperature again. i am the codirector of the center for children and families here at brookings. we have invited a group of experts from around the country to join us today for the first annual summit on social mobility in the united states. it was organized by my colleague richard reeves. we are delighted to have so many wonderful experts here to talk about this issue all day. if we are going to put social mobility on the agenda in the united states and figure out what to do about it, we need help from people in public life. it is a tremendous honor to have someone with us today to begin to help us address

general barry mccaffrey, kirsten, says he, meaning gates, took an oath to defend the constitution and not the president. in that light is it appropriate? >> well i think that's true. lookways for more transparency and more information and this administration in particular has not been very transparent. so, you know, it is nice to learn the inner working of what is going on and i think that is a decision that gates had to make on his own, whether or not he felt it was so important that he speak about this, rather than waiting until the president was out of office. i think there is argument to be made maybe some of this stuff could have been waited until obama was out of office. i also think a lot of the focus by the media has been on portraying obama as not a good commander-in-chief when in fact, even in the excerpts there are quite a few places where secretary gates speaks extraordinarily highly of president obama and for some reason that is not getting the same kind of coverage as the negative things he says. jon: well it has been pointed out in just about every article i read, judy, gates criticizes the president and decision making and so forth yet late in the book