i think it wasn't for irving kristol and for many people in that generation. that happened through the 1980s and became a much more prominent term really in the last decade. but i do actually identify with a lot of the early neo- conservatives, because what they did, not -- beyond moving from left to right and maybe the reason they moved from left to right is that they tried to apply -- they tried to apply social science to politics in a way that led them to conservatism. they tried to be empirical. they tried to be concrete. they tried to be constructive and so they were a little less theoretical and a little more engaged with politics than earlier generations of conservatives. and i am drawn to that. i think it matters that politics be practical. i think it matters that it answer the particular concerns and needs of the country in a given moment. and i think it matters that it be policy-oriented. and so in that respect you know i do -- i certainly look up to irving kristol as a great intellectual model and a lot of people in my generation do. i don't think t

and bill kristol. he has a reason to be there. >> he's the guest of that congressman from louisiana. a well-known fellow. i refer to donna on all "duck dynasty" matters. >> he played an important role in electing this congressman, after the previous congressman resigned. and now, is the secretary of -- in louisiana, the secretary of veteran affairs. >> it's been interesting to watch members of congress sidling over, selfies, some of them, with him tonight. so, as we're looking at this scene in the room, as we're looking at the faces of vice president biden. there he is. speaker of the house, john boehner. what's the secret architecture behind the scenes? what should we study when we're watching john boehner watch this president tonight, matt? >> the president of the united states. [ applause ] >> here he comes. the sergeant at arms, announcing the president entering the room. >> david plouffe, is this routine for the president at this point? >> he enjoys this. when you're on -- you only have a few of t

. >> let me ask bill kristol an important question, a political question.re is an argument that the immigrants are to the left, that they are welfarists, that he this like big government, that they like obamacare, that polls show they will vote heavily democratic. now, is that part of your calculation? do you buy into that political logic? >> no, because haley is right. none of the bills make citizens from ten years. i buy into the logic that you can't get a good deal with the democratic president. you can't trust the president to enforce the bill. you can do a much better bill three years from now. i think there's a serious argument with high unemployment, high long-term unemployment. this bill increases legalization. it doubles it. is that a wise thing to do at this point? >> well, i think it is when you consider that 70% of the agricultural workers in california are illegal immigrants. i mean, that's why they are raising some numbers here to try to get us in balance. but i do want to say something political. i don't think the reason to do this is politic

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span, billng on c- kristol made the observation that in the old days the parties used to be bigger thamesboth sides. they're much more ideologically given. on are both very interested the supremacy of ideas in the republican party, whether the simple conservatives are social conservatives are going to have the louder voice. what did you take away from the conversation? it sounds of like social conservatives are still trying to find their voice within the republican party. that he likee michelle bachmann, mike huckabee. it is looking less likely that these are not the top tier of republicans. many are not that republican national figures that fill that void. you could tell with the debate over gay marriage that they have the upper hand on that issue. you can see the challenges socialthe conservative movement. >> there is a party right now. there's one set of the party that believes they can win by subduing the conservative issues. a social conservatives believe the opposite. if you heard him talk about mitt and john mccain, he believes they could not win over social conservatives. it is tw

. >> schieffer: what about, bill kristol. >> i'm not -- i don't -- not about her this drama going on, she as enemies and frenemies and friends and supporters and she has been senator from new york for eight years and secretary of state for four years. shouldn't the "new york times" be reporting on her record, the pluses and minuses not this kind of childish psycho analysis. >> i couldn't agree more. sucking all the oxygen out of this, it's about the consultants and aides even in one version that have in the magazine in her -- dick morris. he worked for her husband is now an enemy of the clintons, would that be -- hardly in the orbit you've got all of this stuff about the consultants and the teams coming in, going to micro target, macro target. talk about fund raising. the average democratic voter i think says, wait a minutes this a railroad? is there a choice for me? >> schieffer: we have to end there. we'll continue this in the green room. on the air here we'll be back in one minute to talk about the olympics. this is the story of the dusty basement at 1406 35th street the old dining

we've got hilary rosen and bill kristol. now, i am shocked, shocked at allegations that chris christie is a shady politician. give me a break. this is a guy that launched his political career in 1994 with a false ad that he aired more than 400 times. he got sued for that and had to pa apologize. his landslide re-election last year was a sham. he deliberately scheduled cory booker's senate election to take place three weeks ahead of his election. most democrats voted in booker's race. most republicans voted in chris i's race. of course christie did well but that's an abuse of power as obvious as any traffic jam. plus it cost taxpayers about $25 million. so, surprise, surprise, here we are. new week, new scandal, new hole in this guy's straight shooter image and we still have 146 weeks left until election day 2016. so -- >> that's pathetic. if that's the best you've got against christie, i'm going to endorse him. oh, he had an ad that was controversial. he won a landslide. >> he had appaologizeapologize. >> that's never happen

kristol i have a question. is it that today more than the partisan divide is wider than it's ever been. compromise the very word? >> for reasons beyond anyone's this,l no one intended things are more different. they are more ideological, amonge more united themselves in their world view. in the old days the parties were theral republicans in republican party, there were southern conservative democrats, old fashioned machine democrats, as well as reformed democrats. some of the most interesting fights of my youth in politics parties.in both on the democratic side there were all these reform democrats democrats inachine new york or chicago. then of course there were the scoop jackson democrats, they went away. so various social why logical, political trends led to this sorting out of the two parties. and it's just a fact that they further away from each other. everyone now, a lot of people now think it a bad thing and it has its down sides. is 50, 60 years ago, political scientists were all fact that voters didn'

kristol i have a question. why is it that today more than the partisan divide is wider than it's ever been. compromise the very word? >> for reasons beyond anyone's this,l no one intended things are more different. they are more ideological, amonge more united themselves in their world view. in the old days the parties were theral republicans in republican party, there were southern conservative democrats, old fashioned machine democrats, as well as reformed democrats. some of the most interesting fights of my youth in politics parties.in both on the democratic side there were all these reform democrats democrats inachine new york or chicago. then of course there were the scoop jackson democrats, they went away. so various social why logical, political trends led to this sorting out of the two parties. and it's just a fact that they further away from each other. everyone now, a lot of people now think it a bad thing and it has its down sides. is 50, 60 years ago, political scientists were all fact that voters d

william kristol, founder and editor of the weekly standard on the future of the republican party. at 9:15, changes brought about by hurricane katrina and ♪ >> the house of representatives meets and the briefly -- briefly today. for programming this afternoon if you are interested in finding what is going on across the united states, the u.s. conference of mayors hold its meeting. you will see part of that at 11:15. also, at 2:00 this afternoon the republican national committee has their annual meeting and the focus is of gop rising stars.

and he said to bill kristol, the editor of the "weekly standard," and at the time, a fox news contributor he did not think that mitt romney had the spine to, quote, rip obama's face off. so ailes, through fox, took it upon himself to run mitt romney's media strategy. and what was fascinating was that really, for the first time in american history, a republican candidate's war room was being run out of the headquarters of a news channel. mitt romney's war room was being run out of sixth avenue in midtown manhattan. >> we're seeing not much coverage of the christie scandal since it broke on fox. certainly nothing like the coverage that we've seen on something like benghazi, for example. is that an example of roger ailes exercising his power to be protective to somebody he thinks the may well end up being the republican nominee? we know from your book that he favored chris christie or general petraeus, actually, before he was brought down by scandal over mitt romney, for instance. >> yes, this is fascinating. now, this shows at the heart how fox is a political messaging organization. persona

. >>> i'm joined by bill kristol, editor of the weekly standard. cokie roberts from abc.the editor-in-chief of buzzfeed. and brian schweitzer. and republican strategist and cnn contributor, ana navarro. >>> bill, let's start out with what we heard from senator rand paul and senator chuck shurm. i don't want to overstate this, you started to see some optimism on a couple of fronts there could be cooperation between the two parties. >> i think there should be. co-sponsoring a bill. challenging the obama administration on iran. there have been democrats that have voted for delaying parts of obamacare. they're deciding to separate themselves from the obama administration. it's amazing how strong the white house has been. you've been in the white house. obama has been very successful at keeping democrats alive. i think one of the big stories, is can he do that issue after issue? >> outside groups are still going to play a role. the degree that can stay inside, the institution itself, we're seeing it right now happening on that big budget deal that was made before they left. th

bill kristol will be here. later, horace williams brown of the government accountability office talks about the history national flood insurance program, and changes brought andt by hurricanes katrina sandy. "washington journal" is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. conversation on twitter.and >> thursday a discussion on the recent spike in violence in and potential iraqi government plans to create three provinces in contested parts of the country. the speaker of iraq's council of theesentatives speaks at brookings institution, live at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 2. and at 11:00 a.m. a panel from the prookings institution discusses recommendations for the administration on foreign ahead.issues in the year live coverage of that event also c-span 2. >> day feel prepared, yes, i did.y first of all i wasn't elected, so it didn't make that much difference. i did notice, though, the difference between being the the president's wife and president's wife. it's huge, because the vice sayident's wife can

kristol says you've been dealt a strong hand.es it jeopardize that hand to push for reform that your own report concluded your party needs to do? >> first, i think what obviously bill is referring to, the failure of obama care has been a gift for us republicans as we head into the midterm elections. i believe he's hoping we don't take away from that. what speaker boehner is doing is meeting with the conference this week and laying out a series of principles and trying to get consensus. but that's what governing is all about, we're seeing getting people together and putting ideas together and seeing what comes out of it. but i applaud the speaker for exhibiting leadership on trying to find a path forward and bringing the different voices and ideas in our party together trying to get everyone to coalesce around something for the good of the country. >> we're hearing the statement of principles unveiled later this week is going to call for a path to legal status, not citizenship from any of the 11 million or so adult immigrants in t

bill kristol, founder and editor of the weekly standard, will be here.nce program and changes brought about by hurricanes katrina and sandy. washington journal is live every morning at 7:00 a.m.. thursday, the u.s. conference of mayors here is from the housing and urban development secretary shaun donovan. that is live at 11:15 a.m. eastern. and then a look at some of the rising young leaders the republican party. we are live from the rnc meeting. >> i would like to add a personal word with regard to an issue that has been of great concern to all americans over the past year. i refer of course to the investigations of the so-called watergate affair. as you know, i have invited to the special prosecutors voluntarily a great deal of material. i believe i have invited all the material he needs to conclude his investigations and to proceed to prosecute the guilty and clear the innocent. toelieve the time has come bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end. [applause] one year of watergate is enough. >> a look back at five

major garrett, didi myers and bill kristol on what's ahead.thodist hospital showing signs of pneumonia. >> a reported explosion at an apartment building in minneapolis. 13 people have been injured. >> supreme court justice sonya soet o mayor signed an order to block health insurance. >> holding your han. oh, i'm not supposed to hold your hand. >> the books you write are kind of steam. >> they're very steamy. >> sex can't be empty or -- >> casual. >> what is empty sex? >> i came here on new year's day to answer that question? ♪ >> i'm gayle king with norah o'donnell and with us is anthony mason. happy new year's to all of us. charlie's off on this new year's kay. let's get a check on this morning's headlines. >> millions of americans stayed up late to celebrate the beginning of 2014. tourists and new yorkers packed into times square for last night's ball drop. in las vegas a giant fireworks show drew hundreds of thousands to the strip. partiers in key west saw the traditional drop of a high heeled shoe carrying a drag queen. former first lady b

bill kristol, founder and editor "the weekly standard" will be here. of thethe history national flood insurance program and changes brought about by katrina and sandy. journal" is live every morning on c-span. the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> millions of addictions came down to the streets in nationwide protests. >> this uprising defies any definitions. minutes after landing, driving towards the square the to they has come down street to i'm stopped at a checkpoint and they search the and in it finds my previous called "egypt we are watching you" which is not a find as the cupry is exploding. they said come with us we want it talk to you for awhile. i was taken by people in plain clothes. you don't know who is interrogating you. i realized at a certain point the dvd that i have in the car and i need to get rid of caro i made my way to the at one point excused myself to to bathroom and tried destroy the dvd by breaking it apart. hard.re quite and so i shoved it down the drain, went back into the up interrogation foam feeling confident i had

." >> joining us now, bill kristol. >> good to be here. >> we talked to you in light of the rnc having its winter us now, thank you for joining us. what should be the topic going forward? guest: winning the senate and winning the presidency. political parties, i hope the debate some ideas, but basically the party itself as a vehicle for elections., but the ideas can be developed in congress by some governors. >> what do you do about the party itself and the ideas he talked about? >> one important thing is the candidates. .eople can talk about democracy people are voting for x and y. republicans have a lot of attractive candidates this year. some of them are unopposed in primaries. it will be the recumbent democrat. others are roman -- running with two or three candidates. young people, women, that, a bushe different from the and mccain and romney. i voted for the mall, but i think we will see one of the big is that began to happen and will really now happen in 2014 is a generational change in the republican party. >> expand on that. nebraska will stay a republican seat. -- senator, cap

this is from one of our viewers saying -- from the editorial page, bill kristol in "the weekly standardmemo -- brian is joining us from michigan. would you be watching by the state of the union that we be watching the state of the union on tuesday? caller: yes, i happen watching since 1970. i have not missed one. host: what are you looking for? host: -- host:next is richard from michigan. are you watching on tuesday night? caller: no, i am not going to watch it. the things he has to say aren't true. he doesn't do what he says he will. he talks about transparency. he puts everything as a secret. has eric holder out there prosecuting whistleblowers. they won't tell us the truth, somebody needs to tell us the truth. he campaigned on a lot of things that are not true. he is a far cry from having -- in my opinion he is a disaster. i actually voted for him and i regret voting for him. scott wilson has a story below the fold in "the washington post." he begins his piece by saying -- that is from scott wilson in the washington post. joe is joining us from carolina. caller: a comment about immig

host: bill kristol of "the weekly standard" says -- guest: we got to do things in this country because they are right. we parse these difficult issues. when are we not in cycle? they are talking about 2016 presidential race. i want to tackle difficult issues. why not take more difficult votes? that is what we get elected to do. it is still january. the election isn't until november. if you don't like it, vote no. that is what we need to do more of in this country. every time i have been here -- host: you said you have to do something because it is right. why is a right to take the stance on immigration? guest: i am not aware of anybody who thinks that immigration in this country is working properly. i know and woman who has been going through this process for more than 35 years. she is trying to do it legally and lawfully. we are failing those people. they are not willing to overstate their visa. we have got to pirate ties those to pirate we have got ties those people. host: students from texas tech university joining us. a photo of them as they sit and wait for their turn. good mornin

host: bill kristol of "the weekly standard" says -- guest: we got to do things in this country becausey are right. we parse these difficult issues. when are we not in cycle? they are talking about 2016 presidential race. i want to tackle difficult issues. why not take more difficult votes? that is what we get elected to do. it is still january. the election isn't until november. if you don't like it, vote no. that is what we need to do more of in this country. every time i have been here -- host: you said you have to do something because it is right. why is a right to take the stance on immigration? guest: i am not aware of anybody who thinks that immigration in this country is working properly. i know and woman who has been going through this process for more than 35 years. she is trying to do it legally and lawfully. we are failing those people. they are not willing to overstate their visa. we have got to pirate ties those to pirate we have got ties those people. host: students from texas tech university joining us. a photo of them as they sit and wait for their turn. good morning an

earlier this week, bill kristol and i said, despite what the manhattan, washington axis may be and, youd be the one issue that could derail the republican party's chances of picking up the u.s. senate in 2014. how is that debate shaking out internally? do we think that john boehner and paul ryan are going to force a vote on a substantial immigration reform package? >> i think they are going to and the question is when. i had paul ryan on my show yesterday. we went back and forth on this. he did everything he could not to use the phrase pathway to citizenship. i said are these folks going to become citizens? he said it's too soon to tell and we have to wait until we write the legislation. of course, they will end up with a pathway to citizenship. i'm with you. i think this thing could explode in the republican base outside of the corridor and you look at -- you know, right now, you know, the canary in the coal mine are all of these senate primaries, right? all of these guys are favored. all of these senate incumbents are favored. even though they are not the ones dealing with immigration

i think it's something, though, that bill kristol said, i agree.lican senate, knock on wood, somewhere, if they can keep libido in check. >> that will be tough. >> tough to nominate candidates who talk about legitimate rape. >> you have three, not one, not two, but three! you'll hear from tonight. >> libidos and stay away from all of that stuff. that is fatiscinating, chuck. something people in washington and new york don't like to talk about much. >> it's not in the public's lives. not so say they don't think there should be immigration reform but it is where it is on the priority list and in a majority of people's lives, they are not sitting there saying unless this is impacting you personally. i agree with cokie politically. it's just not a priority to the majority of the american people right now. >> eugene, stay with us. robert gibbs, thank you very much. chuck, thank you. who do you have coming up on "the daily rundown"? >> nancy pelosi live interview. she doesn't do a lot of live interviews and one of the 17 republicans that are responding t

william joined by kristol to discuss the future of the republican party. and then our guest is orris williams brown to discuss changes since hurricane katrina. president obama today created a task force to combat sexual assault on college campuses. the president signed a memorandum giving administration officials 90 days to come up with recommendations for colleges to prevent assaults. also today at the white house, press secretary jay carney brief red porters and among the topics, security at the upcoming winter olympics in sochi, russia. this is about an hour. >> feels like monday, weirdly. my kids still haven't gone to school. i hope you're holding up in the wintry weather. this morning, the president and vice president held a meeting in the oval office with attorney general holder, secretaries hagel, sebelius, and duncan and senior officials to discuss their commitment to combating rape and sexual assault in all settings. during the meet, the president and vice president reiterated their deep personal interest in doing everything possible to root autot