grey, clarence reynolds, the people that run the center and make this possible. you know, and i couldn't find a better caliber of people. even the folks are recording this, c-span, they are doing us a service. booktv is a tremendous service. i'm working with people who produce programs, for example, the book club, mahogany books from paul's neighborhood. these are people to constantly struggling to do what we all do in some respects. that's a powerful motivator. you know, i made a lot of money working in corporate america, but i was never as passionate about doing what i do now, as difficult as it is, then i've been come anything else in my life almost, other than my family and children. this is important work, and your attendance is a testament to that. this should be standing room only until, but each and every one of you be sitting here, are extremely important. that was a great question. i had to think about myself. as soon as paul -- he came out of it consciously. i had to learn, and i'm still learning. >> thank you. >> well, i joined for the usual, i joined