cheney paused.t was as if a decade of tension lifted from his face, leaving only sorrow. >> jon: sorrow? what? >> the dam was breaking, jon. he looked at me not as a politician but as one man to another and said, "michael, i'm sorry. i'm sorry for all the pain that i've caused." >> jon: dick cheney said that? >> yep. and as he nervously fiddled with a button on his able pajamas, he went on to say, "plan that release on unlimited troops and money to stabilize countries we have invaded until those countries develop self-sustaining pro weapons democracy is really, really stupid." >> jon: he said "stupid"? >> i'm stupid. >> jon: he said he was stupid. >> end quote. >> jon: so not only is dick cheney so distraught that he's wearing pajamas in the daytime, but he is accepting responsibility for his situation in iraq and everything that we've gotten into. >> look, all i know is that as rainwater dripped down the window, dick cheney put his hand against the pane as he whispered, "what have i done?" [laughte

telling that mary cheney didn't show up.se it would have given mary and dick a chance to thank all of the liberals who made mary's marriage possible. of course, the fact is, there's a lot of friction in the family, because liz cake out against her own sister's marriage. dick cheney gets credit. i don't think he deserves for supporting marriage equality. held a fund-raiser at his high omming home for mitt romney, wanted to make his own daughter's marriage illegal. it has a lot to the do with what liz did last year challenging mike enzi for the wyoming senate and it blew up in their face. this is a redemption tour. them as was pointed out, not heroes of right wing radio. they're trying to win back their base at this point. >> alliance for a strong america, that's what they're doing. raising money and dishing money out. is it toxic for republicans to stand with dick cheney at this point? >> well, he's probably doing irreversible damage to the republican party brand in the eyes of those 20-somethings who are going to decide elec

is it news that dick cheney is dick cheney?here will be no agets who was consistently wrong about everything in the lead-up to war. >> regime change in iraq would bring about a number of benefits from the region. when the gravest of threats are eliminated -- >> you think the american people are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle with significant american casualties? >> i don't think it's likely to unfold that way, tim, because i believe we will be greeted as liberators. >> if we do have a take action, do you think it will be a long war or short war. >> my own judgment based on my time as secretary of defense and having operated in this area in the past, i'm confident our troops will be successful and think it will be relatively quickly. >> weeks, months? >> weeks rather than months. >> weeks rather than months. no casualties. hardly any casualties. and a quickie war. michael tomasky, columnist with "the daily beast" and joe conason, editor with "the national memo." i have to give you each a chance to say what you th

i wonder why dick cheney is doing this? do you think it is as peter suggests in his book "days of fire" that cheney is worried that america is on the verge of apocalypse? islamist faith taking over. or is it that he is trying to burnish his legacy? >> well, he may be obsessed with the ca the caliphate, but i think he is always obsessed with the decision to go to iraq, which the majority of americans now think is a bad idea. and i think that whenever cheney speaks out today and bashes obama or anybody else, everybody should go back and look at the interview that tim russert did with dick cheney on this war. dick cheney under-estimated how long the war would last, how much it would cost, how many troops it would take. he said we would be welcomed as liberators. and that they would get along just fine. it is really an extraordinary document and shows just how badly the bush administration miscalculated this decision. and i think that cheney should continue to be held accountable for that. and that interview, i think, is a very

is it news that dick cheney is dick cheney? no regrets for the man who was consistently wrong about everything in the lead-up to war. >> regime change in iraq would bring about a number of benefits to the region. when the gravest of threats are eliminated the freedom loving people will have a chance to promote lasting peace. >> do you think the american people are prepared for a long, costly and bloody battle with a significant american casualties? >> i don't think it's likely to unfold that way, tim. i believe we'll be greeted as liberators. >> if we have to take action do you think it will be a long or short war? >> my judgment are based on my time as secretary of defense and having operated in this area in the past i'm confident our troops will be successful. i think it will go relatively quickly, but -- >> weeks? most months? >> weeks rather than months. >> weeks rather than months, hardly any casualties, a quickie war. i'm going to give you each a chance to say what you think of that. >> well -- what can i say? >> it's abs

dick cheney joins me now. mr. vice president, thanks for being here. >> it's good to be here today. >> i have to ask you about this. news week reporter lay yeah goodman tweeted according to a senior goldman sachs official in a private talk you told top brass while you were still vice president the plan was to invade iraq and iran together and cheney told goldman sachs bankers is not doing a dual attack was his biggest regret. the statement was met with stunned silence. is that true? >> never happened. >> never happened? >> no. >> is that a roo he gret of yours not talking iraq and iran at the same time? >> iran is a special place with respect to the nuclear capability. i was a strong believe if we had to we should use nuclear force to stop iran from getting. >> we never got to that point. goldman sachs, i don't mean to knock the firm. i've got good friends there but i never had a session where i did that with anybody. >> a new poll shows 71% of the american people think going into iraq was not worth it. you've bee

cheney. good for them. it was a contentious exchange, but the cheneys sat there.esident of the united states sat there and took the tough questions and answered them. and mike allen's right, i'm not an enemy of vice president cheney. i'm not a friend of vice president cheney. i'm a journalist who asks questions and he's a politician who had the guts to come in here and answer them. let me tell you something else, unlike a lot of politicians and pundits who come in and ask tough questions, the cheneys never complained. in fact, they thanked us for the interview and we thank them for being standup people for coming on and giving it. we'll be right back. but i've managed. ♪ i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. ♪ when i finally told my doctor, he said my crohn's was not under control. ♪ he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw signific

dick cheney launched a new offensive against barack obama. cheney writes rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much. we will talk with cheney later in this hour. what is the obama doctrine what is it and what has it led to? some of the video you will see tonight is very graphic. >> so help you god? >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> he promised he would improve america's standing in the world. now that he was president the world was waiting to find out how. one thing everyone did know he had been against the iraqi war from the start. >> what i do owe bows -- oppose is a dumb war. >> it was instrumental in his victory. >> i want to end the mind set that got us into the war in the first place. >> he p wanted america to play a smaller role ofrnt world stage. it didn't take long for the humbler approach to come out. >> we want to restep our relationship. >> hillary clinton presents russia's foreign minister with a reset button wiping away all that had come before. >> but what of the middle east? the president himself gave an indication of wher

cheney, good to see you too.lot of time as a child riding around in the backseat of a car through wyoming listening to the carpenters, i wonder if you could tell us what lessons you brought from your experience as the person out in front, as a candidate, and whether you might think about doing that again at some point. >> well, obviously i disagree with a lot of policies procedurally. the effort by president obama to ignore major parts, for example, and alter parts of the obamacare prop decision where -- proposition where he, in effect, has just deferred in enforcing certain key parts of it. i think the bill was so bad it should have been appealed, but at the minimum, it should have been amended. there needed to be a substitute to deal with all those problems that have surfaced over the course of the last year or two, and he's just chosen by himself to set certain parts and provisions aside. i do think he's exceeded in limits -- the limits of his constitutional authority. >> well, i totally agree. it's also the u

dick cheney, jake tapper did it, so what cheney think of his role in the iraq war, plenty and it's all good. what does he think of president obama, plenty and it's all bad. take a listen. >> i think he is the worst president of my lifetime. we're trying our best to be role models.dels. we don't jump at the sound of the opening bell, because we're trying to make the school bell. corner booth beats corner office any day. we make the most of our time... and our money. the 2014 malibu. highest ranked midsize car in initial quality the car for the richest guys on earth. (vo) you know that dream... where you're the hero? hey... you guys mind warming this fella up for me? i'm gonna go back down, i saw some recyclables. make it happen with verizon xlte. find a car service. we've doubled our 4g lte bandwidth in cities coast to coast. thanks! sure. we've got a spike in temperature. so save the day... don't worry, i got this... oh yeah, i see your spaceship's broken. with xlte on largest, most reliable network. get 50% off all new smartphones like the lg g3. over 20 million kids everyday in oulac

cheney? >> that's a good description. it varies. when dick was asked to be vice president, he thought it was a great idea. i was not sure. give up your house and job and move. we were not dead broke -- excuse me. [laughter] [applause] liz would be out painting. >> any actual fights? >> oh, sure. >> none we will talk about today. it is a real tribute to my mom and dad, we talked politics at the dinner table and we talked about what was happening and the world and in the news. they treated mary and me like adults who had something to contribute from an early age. >> mrs. cheney, you were out with a book -- >> war criminal. >> 4 more years. >> i was backstage and i was saying -- it never gets old. [laughter] >> where is the money -- >> it looks like more than 2. >> backstage. >> you destroyed iraq. >> it never gets old. >> it never changes. >> in "james madison: a life reconsidered," you said he would've loved gridlock. explain. >> you destroyed iraq and you are destroying this country. >> james madison would have thought it was a triu

cheney writes rarely has a u.s. president been wrong about so much. let's talk about the obama doctrine and what has it led to? first, a warning, be advised some of the video you'll see tonight is very graphic. >> so help you god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> candidate obama had promised he would improve america's standing in the world. now that he was president, the world was waiting to find out how. one thing everyone did know, he had been against the iraq war from the start. >> what i do oppose is a dumb war. >> in fact, his opposition to the war was instrumental in his election victory. >> don't want to just end the war, i want to end the mind set that got us into war in the first place. >> obama's mind set suggested he wanted america to play a smaller role on the world stage. it didn't take long for this tumbler approach to show itself. >> we want to reset our relationship. >> march 2009, secretary of state hillary clinton presents russia's foreign minister with a reset button. met fhtaphorically wiping away that had c

the simple answer is the one that cheney and his daughter don't want to mention. the unnecessary misguided and frankly immoral war launched by the united states in 2003. we destabilized iraq. in many respects, we destabilized the larger region. and misfortune of barack obama is that he inherited this catastrophe created by the previous administration. >> even cheney once thought that it would be a serious mistake to occupy baghdad. this is dick cheney in 1994 reflecting on the first iraq war when he was secretary of defense. >> do you think forces should have moved into baghdad? >> no. >> why not? >> we would have been all alone. it would be been u.s. occupation of iraq. none of the arab forces willing to fight with us were willing to invade iraq. once you got to iraq and took it over and took down saddam hussein's government, what are you going to put in its place? if you take down the central government of iraq, you can easily end up e seeing pieces of iraq fly off. the syrians would like to hand to the west part of eastern iraq. in the north you have the kurds.

and i wish that the cheney wing of the gop would make a resurgence. the world could use it right now. >> that's a damning statement about the gop. it came up in cheney's comments himself. if i don't say it at my age no one will. if there is no one in the entire republican party who is making the case who is actively engaged in republican politics now and an acted official who is a republican who could say what dick cheney is saying who is a part of the process in the game right now, that's a sad statement about the republican party. >> that's the last thought. thank you, guys. we'll have to leave it there. thank you very much. if you ever used your couch cushions to build a fort back in the day, you had your very own little country, at least for a you minutes. next, i'm going to talk to one dad who is building his little princess a real kingdom. ♪ the last four hours have seen... one child fail to get to the air sickness bag in time. another left his shoes on the plane... his shoes! and a third simply doesn't want to be here. ♪ until now... until righ

liz cheney is back.hey are starting a group alliance for strong america to change from the very partisan approach she had taken in her campaign to go back to the cheney brand on a strong, more hawkish national defense. the vice president has offered to help the rnc and senate republicans in raising money for the elections ahead. all of this is part of building the possibility of a future career for liz cheney. senator rob portman, republican of ohio, close to the cheneys and told liz she has a lot to offer. he thinks if she wants to be governor or senator or congressman from wyoming she could achieve that. all of this is part of putting the cheney's back to where they were and as part of their tour on july 14th, playbook lunch, we are going to have three cheney's. the vice president, his wife lynne cheney and liz cheney are all together on ploaybook lunch >> why does liz cheney want to do next, nicole? >> she made sure at the time that family health issues but she never denied she had them. what is inter

cheney has a distinction in american politics.e only former presidential chief of staff to win a race for congress after his time at the white house. the year was 1978, more than a year after president ford lost to jimmy carter. a 37-year-old dick cheney told "the washington post" that a person who thinks it's a comedown doesn't understand the unique features of putting your name on the ballot and persuading thousands of people to support you. politics is not necessarily a hierarchy, especially in a democracy. so cheney chris crossed the state to grow grassroots support and politely declined ford's offer to campaign for him. though ford did appear at the state convention at cheney's request to help him. but the campaign had an unexpected scare when cheney experienced his first heart attack on a campaign swing in cheyenne. after six weeks of rest, the incident was the driving headline of his continuing campaign. as "the washington post" noted in august of that year, quote, the heart attack comes up at every campaign stop. cheney no

secondly on cheney, democrats love it when cheney weighs in on iraq of all things. would guess maybe rand paul does too. dick cheney and iraq doesn't resonate credibility. bernie madoff on investor protection or bill clinton on sexual abstinence is not the subject that republicans want dick cheney to be talking about. >> that's what he was tag about. go ahead, joe. >> no. i was just going to say, mark halpern, though, we have seen rand paul take some incoming over the past several days and there is a feeling from people like myself and other on republicans, and we talked about it yesterday, when somebody suggested rand paul might win the republican nomination, we instinctively said, no, he won't. of course, the same thing i said about barack obama in 2007 when he was running against the clinton money machine before i saw how much money he could raise, so maybe it could happen. but actually this issue that dick cheney is talking about, despite the chaos of iraq, is not -- i don't think it's great for rand paul because more republicans are closer to dick cheney than r

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biden's from scranton, pennsylvania. [ cheers ] cheney -- cheney's from the death star. [ screams and] best fight move -- biden has kick to the groin. cheney's best move? shot to the face. [ laughter and applause ] next up -- favorite foods. biden likes ice-cream cakes. cheney likes souls. [ laughter and applause ] and finally, personal mottos. biden's is "there's nothing that can't be solved with a a wink and a pat on the butt." [ laughter ] cheney's is "hell is just a a word." [ laughter and applause ] very extreme. hell is just a word. some more political news here. during his speech this week, chris christie warned against presidential candidates running too soon. then, earthquake experts warned chris christie against running at all. [ laughter and applause ] that's not fair. >> steve: that's rude. >> jimmy: you shouldn't do that. >> steve: rude. >> jimmy: they shouldn't have done that. >> steve: that's mean. that's just rude. >> jimmy: that's rude. i read that republican scott brown, he's running for senate in new hampshire. he recently hid in the bathroom of a restaurant to avoi

&í5 i'm not a friend of j, president cheney.st who asks questions and he's a politician who had the guts to come in here and answer them. let me tell you something else, unlike a lot of politicians and pundits who come in and ask tough questions, the cheneys never complained. in fact, they thanked us for the interview and we thank them for being standup people for coming on and giving it. we'll be right back. ♪ oooh discover the fearless protection of tena. so absorbent even when you twist not a drop escapes. ♪ nothing's missed with tenatwist ♪ hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30? ah... (boy) i'm here! i'm here! (cop) too late. i was gone for five minutes! ugh! move it. you're killing me. you know what, dad? i'm good. (dad) it may be quite a while before he's ready, but our subaru legacy will be waiting for him. (vo) the longest-lasting midsize sedan in its class. introducing the all-new subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. intercourse that's painfulit... due to menopausal changes. the problem isn't li

we're excited today to be hosting three cheneys, and even though we say cheney, they see cheney.ave three cheneys, whatever you want to call them, lynne, dick and liz. they'll be out here momentarily. first, i'd like to thank the bank of america for making this probable. bank of america, which is sponsored, it gives us the chance to talk about the most important issues of the day with the most interesting people of the day. ask here to say a -- and here to say a few words is bank of america's corporate responsibility and consumer policy executive andrew. andrew? [applause] thank you for being here. >> great to be here. thank you very much. it's always nice to get alauded. we appreciate it, and we have been thrilled to do this partnership with politico for the past four years on a monthly basis. we have conversations in sober and substantive dialogue about important issues of the day, and we can't think of any better contribution to make to the political discourse than to have mike allen conduct these interviews, and it's just been a great partnership, and we're happy to be here.

cheney and his wife shirley have remained close to anthony. they share these pictures exclusively with cnn. >> she does not have any blood family anymore. she has no contact with them. >> reporter: no contact with her mother? >> i think she's had a few phone conversations with her over the years, that's it. no contact. >> reporter: her father? >> none. >> reporter: her sfwloer. >> none. not likely to ever be. she hasn't been freed from her incarceration yet because she can't go out. she can't do anything. >> i know that she has very -- very strong feelings about what has happened to her. i also know she's very saddened by her loss and she never will forget her daughter caylee. ever. >> reporter: jean casarez, cnn, new york. >> our thanks to jean casarez for that interview. the man that you saw in that piece, the defense attorney in the case, cheney mason, may be arguably one of the closest people to casey anthony ever since this trial wrapped up. and, in fact, after the break, he's going to speak to us a little bit more about casey's future an

what do you think it does to the discussion when dick cheney says something like this. some suggested, this disqualifies him from commenting on the current policy? >> i don't think anybody is disqualified from hearing anybody. you don't want to be ruling people out of bounds preemptively. i think that it -- i think that if you look at chen' yes approval rating. if you look at views even among republicans on iraq and so on, most americans tend to sort of tune out his arguments because they do hold him in the bush administration fairly reasonably at least partially responsible for the situation in iraq. what you have in the republican side right now is a very interesting conflict over foreign policy where a lot of republican voters, i mean, when cheney was doing his tour recently he was challenged on fox news about meggyn kelly on this very issue. i don't think he's coming out uncontested from the even from the gop on these questions. >> ahead for us, they were smart enough to beat m.i.t., but they were undocumented immigrants, so what happened to them will really surpris

look, dick cheney wants a platform.edia, or anybody pays attention to him is a joke. >> on the other hand, people say this is a man of certain accomplishments as the vice president of america. but on the other hand, leading us down such a path why doesn't he pay more in terms of his reputation? he is out there constantly haranging the president, but i don't think he paid in a fashion for what he did to the president. >> because bombing other countries means you never have to say your sorry? i remember people were drummed out of foreign policy circles for suggesting going to war in iraq was a bad idea. it is disgusting to me that dick cheney has not been drummed out of the circles with all of his ilk. >> how do we compare to dick chen cheney? is he the hench out there with what he believes -- >> i'm sure george bush still believes he did the right thing. dick cheney is trying to promote a career for his daughter. he clearly has a viewpoint that he wants to express. it just happens to be dead wrong. >> well, when you thin

going on as lynne cheney suggested that the clintons were behind the lewinsky article that they had vanity fair publish it to get the story out of the way by that well it's a bit of a conspiracy theory but i mean it wouldn't be the strangest thing i've ever heard of in my life. it makes sense in july to want to when nakia late and i didn't know this woman but but monica's point was you know why now because hillary is most likely going to be the next next president and maybe for eight years and of course if that happens then she's going to lose another ten years of her life so come on let's how about a moratorium twenty years is a long time to be in and well a christian ethic is to forgive. forgive what. you know just letter how about life . what do you make of the novato ranch is mr bundy clavin bundy and he is faced with the feds lots of the right wingers love this guy until until of course the relevant point is that they should not love them to begin with he's a scofflaw you know somehow that the rule of law people excited like him they like him because he thumbed his nose at the

so is this sort of classic dick cheney?red him, gloria, for a long time. >> well, you know, cheney wants to sort of get ahead with the business that he cares about, which is the way he feels barack obama has bungled foreign policy and domestic policy and he knows from experience that if you start an impeachment process, it kind of takes you off on a tangent. your party become, the target for overreaching. and the issues upon which you disagree with the president become secondary. so what cheney is saying, he's not defending president obama by any stretch, as you know, wolf, but he's saying, you know, don't go off down that road because that isn't going to get republicans anywhere. we need to talk about the issues we care about. as you head into the 2014 election. >> all right, from dick cheney, let's turn to hillary clinton. she's still out there. she's promoting her book. last night, during an appearance on "the daily show," she hinted of a possible presidential run. listen to this. >> i kind of prefer a home office, that'

in an op-ed in what many are calling the "wall street journal," cheney writes, "rarely has a u.s.sident been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many." yes, rarely, maybe only one other time. ( laughter ) ( applause ) of course, the liberals, the liberals-- ( cheers ) , of course, the liberal media went right after him, especially left wing loon megyn kelly. >> time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in iraq, sir. you said there was no doubt saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. you said we would be greeted as liberators. you said the iraq insurgency was in the last throes back in 2005. and you said that after our intervention extremists would have to "rethink their strategy of jihad." now with almost $1 trillion spent there, with 4500 american lives lost there, what do you say to those who say you were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many? >> no, i fundamentally disagree, reagan-- megyn. ( laughter ) ( applause ) >> stephen: that was no mistake. as a true conservative, every sentence has to contain at least one reagan. (

they want darth vader cheney back. that is what is destroying america.ost: since the killing of osama bin laden, do you think we are safer since he is out of the picture? got security on the american people. we have drones looking at people. we have information taken from facebook. face recognition. we know where every american is his living. we know everything like that. all of that security is going to destroy us one day. thank you. host: this is a piece of the wall street journal on drones. this is the dawn of the drone air. i will just read some of what he wrote on saturday. that story is in the wall street journal. i don't feel safer. look what happened with somebody putting up that flagged on the spring thesome the lincoln memorial. some is supposed to be watching that. you're talking about the flag on the brooklyn bridge? taking they are surveillance cameras. what happened? i don't know. they're looking into it. if there is some of the supposed be watching that, where were they? they should be fired. the sprain of the lincoln memorial, what happen

dick cheney -- we talked about this. dick cheney has come out and blasted the president without saying a single thing about what he would do now. john boehner came out and said the president's napping. okay, mr. speaker, what would you do? silence, crickets, nothing. not even a chirp, because no one wants to be on the hook here. they just want to bash the president. as people know, it's a mess there, there's no easy answers, no easy sides. and it's tragic that all we can do here is put it into this political cauldron. >> david corn, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> good to be with you, lawrence. >>> coming up, 21st century top guns are no longer flying planes. the director and car of an important new movie calls drones, will join me. and one of the actors in that movie was in "top gun." what are the odds? she's still the one for you. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequentl

bush, cheney. no one has done a candid interview with them where they actually pin their ears to the wall and ask them the tough -- i have not seen anyone do that. that's not coincidental. they've never been called before congress. now what is that about? we used to have this idea of checks and balances. we don't have any checks and balances. the bush administration also destroys tens of millions of emails that no one could see. so, i mean, and no one said anything about it. they had 69 e-mail accounts that were done through the republican party while they were conducting business, knowing that's a private corporation, not part of the united states government. so, all of this deceit and elaborate efforts to deflect the public from, oh, yeah, the truth, it's pretty outrageous. and we don't -- and so we'll never see some of those emails, ever, i think. and that, to me, is tragic. but, i have enough, i've seen enough now to make a conclusion. yes, we were absolutely misled. and yes, they did lie. and

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