to sleeping in public cities across the country or criminalizing the poor and accorded the national law center on homelessness and poverty over the last three years there's been a significant rise in these anti homeless laws legislation against bagan has shot up twenty five percent bans on camping have risen by sixteen percent and most disturbingly laws against sleeping in cars that increased one hundred and twenty percent but it's not only laws like these that hurt the homeless it's policies that make it practically impossible for anyone on the streets to find shelter policies like homeless. spikes being implanted on the ground to prevent people from falling asleep which are popping up in cities all over the world and some towns the bans go as far as making it illegal for people to even help those most to me all of which perfectly exemplifies that the decades long war to end poverty has turned into a war against the poor maria for scoring miss sorry i got that wrong she's probably greek of the national law center adds that quote it's really hard to get a job when you're homeless anyway or get

to sleeping in public cities across the country are criminalizing the poor and accorded the national law center on homelessness and poverty over the last three years there's been a significant rise in these anti homeless laws legislation against bagan has shot up twenty five percent bans on camping have risen by sixteen percent and most disturbingly laws against sleeping in cars that increased one hundred and twenty percent but it's not only laws like these that hurt the homeless it's policies that make it practically impossible for anyone on the streets to find shelter policies like. most spikes being implanted on the ground to prevent people from falling asleep which are popping up in cities all over the world and in some towns the bans go as far as making it illegal for people to even help those most to me all of which perfectly exemplifies a decades long war to end poverty has turned into a war against the poor maria foscari miss sorry i got that wrong she's probably greek of the national law center as that quote it's really hard to get a job when you're homeless anyway or getting housing y

sleeping in public cities across the country are criminalizing the poor and according to the national law center on homelessness and poverty over the last three years there's been a significant rise in these anti homeless laws legislation against bagan has shot up twenty five percent bans on camping have risen by sixteen percent and most disturbingly laws against sleeping in cars that increased one hundred and twenty percent but it's not only laws like these that hurt the homeless it's policies that make it practically impossible for anyone on the streets to find shelter policies like anti homeless bikes being implanted on the ground to prevent people from falling asleep which are popping up in cities all over the world and in some towns the bans go as far as making it illegal for people to even help those most in need all of which perfectly exemplifies a decades long war to end poverty has turned into a war against the poor maria. sorry i got that wrong she's probably greek of the national law center as that quote it's really hard to get a job when you're homeless anyway or getting housing you

vice president for education and employment at the national women's law center in -- thank you for your >> thank you for having me. >> we are talking about a loss of nearly $19,000 a year. are the reasons obvious or structural? >> there are several reasons for the wage growth -- wage gap. after american women are overrepresented in some of the lowest paying fields and we have not seen an increase in the wages in a long time. some of the reasons are that they make up really small amounts in the highest paying fields. we found in our study no matter what occupation, they still made less. >> the report also shows that at every education level, african-american women experience a wage gap. what message does that send to young black women who have been told education is the gateway to success? >> it certainly matters. it matters a lot. the wage gap was largest for african-american women who did not have a high school degree. getting one makes a big difference. what was startling was that even when african-american women had a college degree, they still made less than white men who did not. >

illegal is a growing trend in cities across the country, according to a recent report from the national law centerlessness and poverty. with restrictions on begging and sleeping in public becoming more widespread, the organization argues that certain laws make it harder for people to get back on their feet. read the details of that report, on the rundown. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. >> ifill: and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, ten years after the landmark 9/11 commission report, we revisit the state of american security today. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. we'll see you on-line and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us here at the pbs newshour, thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> i've been around long enough to recognize the people who are out there owning it. the ones getting involved, staying engaged. they are not afraid to question the path they're on. because the one question they never want to ask is, "how did i end up here?" i started schwab with those people. people who

challenges women face in the work force, vice president for family economic security, at the national women's law center. she is a former sales represent why has been unemployed for about a year, thank you for being here. so joan, does unemployment effect women differently nan it effects men. >> it does, but in a particular way. the unemployment rate for those that are six months or more, is similar for women and men. about four and ten adults that lose a job are unemployed for six months or more, and the average length is about nine months. so in that sense, there's not a gender gap. but what is difference about women, is that when they were employed they were earning less, so they have less saved, they are much more likely to be single parents. so they have greater economic obligations. they have to figure out child care, in order to look for a job and go back to work. so when they lose a job, it hits them even harder than it does men. and that's the real challenge for women and their families. >> so deborah you have been out of work for a year, and as jane was saying, money is such an enormous stress

we bring in national law enforcement leaders to the national center. usually a class size is about 50 to 75. and it's train the trainers. we teach them and expose them to the resources that the national center can provide so when they go back home to their respective agencies, they become our ambassadors. cleveland is a good example. we held, it wasn't a ceo training course, but we held what we called a long term missing children's summit in the aftermath of the cleveland case because there were a lot of lessons learned and takeaways. >> absolutely. but these police departments are not required to do it. correct? they just do it because it -- in cleveland's situation, they only did it because they had to. >> it is voluntary. >> what do we do to make sure that every single local police department has the proper training? because i'm telling you, that's a major part of the problem. >> i think it should be built into the training curriculum of every police academy. because it's going to become a critical part of their mission. it only takes one missing ch

it's no wonder that groups that campaign for children, children's defense fund, national immigration law center and the national council of la raza have come out in strong opposition to this bill. mr. speaker, it would be disgraceful if the only votes on immigration this year would be to roll back benefits for u.s. citizens who happen to have parents who violated our law. with one week left before the august recess, republicans unfortunately have little time to introduce and pass a bill that actually deals with immigration and addresses the crisis at our border. president obama sent a request to congress to address the increased flow of families and unaccompanied minors from el lvador, honduras and guatemala. going to mcallen, texas, san antonio, are fleeing horrific situations including gangs, rape, poverty and are seeking refuge in this great country just like my own great grandparents did as well as many of my colleagues. this problem with the crisis at the southern border is one of only so many symptoms about our dysfunctional immigration system which is why congress needs to bring forward

reporter: charles huth showed us a safer restraint technique he is teaching cops at the national law enforcement training centern kansas city. this is called the lateral vascular neck restraint. it doesn't block the airway, and it's now used by 500 police departments. >> we're talking bilateral compression on the sides of the neck. you will notice derek's captured wes' balance to the rear, he's got him off balance, that makes it extremely difficult for wes to resist. he reporter: and the n.y.p.d. has ordered retraining on proper restraint techniques for all 35,000 cops, and, scott, the police officer involved has been placed on desk duty pending an investigation. >> pelley: michelle, thanks very much. the results of a study comparing robotic surgery with traditional operations were so striking the trial was stopped early. that story's next. for help finding the one that's right for you... ...like centrum. select products are now just $9.99 with card. at the corner of happy and healthy. your eyes. even 10 miles away... they can see the light of a single candle. look after them... with centrum silver. multivitami

addition, you can reach out to consumer financial protection bureau and reach out to the national consumer law center, but get free information. never pay anyone up front for information about what you can do to deal with your student loans. gerri: you can consolidate that debt, but these copies are not the way and that is the message tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you. gerri: our next guest says he is seeing these practices firsthand. he is the founder and director of attorney point usa. welcome back to the show. you say you have seen it firsthand. why have you seen? >> i'm here in chicago and a lot of my friends and peers that are knee-deep in student loan debt that have just graduate college have told me they have heard these radio ads and seeing the ads on the internet and they have put over their credit card and bank information and they just disappear. there's no service rendered and that is disappointing and unscrupulous and immoral behavior by these companies, but i will say this. this conversation needs to close how are we going to prevent these students from getting into student loan

we bring in national law enforcement leaders to the national center.usually, a class sizes 50 to 75. it is train the trainers. we train them and expose them to the resources the national center cap provide. when they go back to their agencies, they can be our ambassadors. what we called a long-term missing children summit. there were a lot of lessons learned in the cleveland case. >> these police departments are not required to do it, correct? in cleveland situation, the only did it because they had to, because of the situation that existed. we doo we mean -- what do to make sure that every single local police department has the proper training? that is a major part of the problem. builthink it should be into the training curriculum of every police academy. it is going to be a critical part of their mission. it only takes one missing child case that they are not familiar how to deal with that case, no the resources available, and had to proceed. in cleveland, those cases fell through the tracks. that should never happen again. we had the chance to talk

senior counsel and director of state reproductive health policy at the national women's law center gretchen welcome back thank you i have to see you again thanks to you first of all was my set up. accurate or inaccurate or thoughts on it was completely accurate and up lead to pressing have now i'm even more depressed than i was when i read the decision hours ago yeah well i thought the dissent actually was or was a little bit a light ginsburg's dissent of this thing was blistering that's only the sense could be the law in this. country i think we would be in a much better place in five to four i mean this is this is one of the things that demonstrates the importance of a presidential elections and b. the american people understanding judicial review but that's a whole other issue. in terms of its real world impact who is the most impact well this is going to impact women across the country who work for employers that all of sudden are going to come out of the woodwork and say oh wait a second i have a religious belief against providing women birth control my god this is birth control we're

i want to thank the museum for cosponsoring this event and the national women's law center and the george washington university women's studies program. just the fact that we have all of those cosponsors to thank is quite indicative of how far we have come from the time of belva lockwood. with that, let me turn it over to jill norgren. >> it is a pleasure to be here. tell me if the mic is picking up. and a pleasure to thank justice ginsburg for all that she contributed to this book. to thank the staff of the wilson center library and my former wilson center interns now spread around the world, i heard from only one of them two weeks ago who is in beijing who had seen an advertisement for the book and e-mailed to me what a small world we live in. i want to thank these interns in particular for the help they gave me during a wonderful year of fellowship residence here at the center. it is a pleasure to acknowledge people at the national archives and the library of congress and the national museum of women americans history. i'm delighted in particular to say how grateful i am to robert elli

laura donohue is professor of law at georgetown law school and the director of georgetown center on national security and the law. professor donohue has held fellowships for several organizations. she was a fellow in the international security program and the executive session for domestic preparedness. in 2001, the carnegie corporati corporation, we're still uncertain as to how he pronounced his name. the carnegie corporation named her to a scholars program. her most recent book is the cost of counter-terrorism, power, politics and liberty, but she is now actually working on a book on quarantines, which is very different from what we're talking about today. so she has to put that work aside while we come back to this, or are you going to figure out how to marry these two things? >> no. >> no, not today? >> he served as an adjunct professor also at johns hopkins university. his book is a reminder about the importance of context. because if i were in a completely different place and i were to introduce him and say he's the author of the standard college textbook on intelligence, people would

fair housing alliance, the national housing law project, the ace legal referral panel, the national sen forefor lesbian rights and aids housing alliance. i also know the lgbt center has been involved ~. the hope is with this piece of legislation you're going to see more people become aware of this issue and that this will in turn push companies to not only have policies, but where the policies are discriminatory, that they actually change them. and i also think that this will not only make an impact because san francisco plays an important role in the business plan of these companies, but i believe and i hope that other jurisdictions will follow suit and that other jurisdictions will be asking the same question. so, i want to thank you for your consideration and i look forward to your support. >> colleagues, can we take this item same house same call? without objection, this ordinance is passed on the first reading. [gavel] >> and with that why don't we go to roll call for introductions. >> first supervisor up to introduce new business is supervisor farrell. >> thank you, madam clerk. so, colleagues, just a few moments ago we voted on a ordinance to amend our gar

we continue to work closely with law enforcement and organizations like the national center for missing and exploited children as we constantly strengthen our efforts. so what does the co-founder of the center for missing and exploited children say about sexual predators being hired at businesses that cater to children? >> this is a real threat. >> reporter: ernie allen is the president of the international center. he says for every sexual predator that gets caught, there are still thousands of them we don't know about out there, trolling for children. >> most of those who have criminal records are the dumb ones. they're the ones who have gotten caught. most of those who prey upon children don't have criminal records. >> reporter: is there more that disney could do? >> i think there's more that disney can do. there's more that everybody can do. it's hard to imagine a company that's tried harder to address this issue than disney. >> reporter: disney's competitors, universal and sea world, face the same challenges. this is 23-year-old matthew cody myers. >> face that way. >> reporter: uni

we continue to work closely with law enforcement and organizations like the national center for missing and exploited children as we constantly strengthen our efforts. what does the co-founder for the center of missing and exploited children say about sexual predators being hired at businesses that cater to children? >> this is a real threat. >> reporter: ernie allen is the president of the international center. he says for every sexual predator that gets caught, there are still thousands of them we don't know about out there trolling for children. >> most of those who have criminal records are the dumb ones. they're the ones who have gotten caught. most of those who prey upon children, don't have criminal records. >> is there more that disney could do? >> i think there's more that disney can do, there's more that everyone can do, it's hard to imagine a company that's tried harder to address in issue than disney. >> disney's competitors, universal and sea world face the same challenges. this is 23-year-old matthew cody myers. universal studios fired him after he was arrested in polk cou

southern border friday, looking at a federal law enforcement training center turned holding facility, housing some of the undocumented families overrunning the nation'simmigration system. >> this facility represents the proof that we intend to and we will send people back who come into the rio grande valley sector illegally. >> this is one of several facilities being used by the feds to handle the overflow from border patrol processing facilities. secretary johnson' included a stop in south texas, the busiest crossing point for people on their journey noh. the authorities seeing new signs of robbers. a spokesperson for customs and ntrol said the relocation has decreased the backlog in texas. the busing of immigrants to san diego one paul's for now. the ongoing search for a solution heavy on the mind of senator john mccain, who is back in his home state of arizona hoping to keep the focus on communities at the border. >> 90,000 children coming to our rder, seeking asylum. it has to be stopped, and it has to be stopped immediately. >> senator mccain introducing new legislation to address the crisis. back on the border, people keep crossing, fueling the

national center for missing and a dash missing and exploited children recently updated congress on the efforts to find missing it exploded -- exploited children. questions centered on the role of local lawnforcement agencies and training for parents and teachers. mr. paul also discussed the influence of the internet when it comes to child crime and trafficking. present, webeing will come to order. good morning, everyone. we are pleased to hear today from john ryan, the president and chief executive officer of the national center for missing and exploited children. us an update give on the important work and how a number of legislative changes last year are enhancing the efforts of this vital organization. , presidentny opening ronald reagan said "all americans, especially youth, should have the right and opportunity to walk our streets, to play and grow, to live their lives that being at risk. spoken 30 years ago, president reagan's words are just as true now as they were back then. if we are truly fighting for all people so that they can build at her lives for themselves and their families, one of the key things we must be doing is everything that we can to enhance the safety of the ch

and they conclude we continue to work closely with law enforcement and organizations like the national centersing and exploited children as we constantly strengthen our efforts. universal and seaworld issued similar statements, say thanksgiving have zero tolerance for this kind of behavior and do everything they can to protect their guests. florida republican congressman says legislation to do much of what you heard the judge say a minute ago to allow businesses to polygraph employees. congressman ross, thanks for being with us why. do you think this legislation is necessary? >> it's absolutely necessary. it's another tool in the tool box. the act was passed 25 years ago, and we didn't have the internet access we didn't have the technological advances we have today. we need to allow employers to find out who they're hiring if they're going to be dealing with minor children in these types of situations. you know, as we saw from the earlier interview, those that had background checks usually can get caught. but if we can allow for a polygraph, and when the perspective employee goes in there kno

under current law, national center for missing and exploited ncmec operates a cyber tip line to provide a means of reporting internet related child exploitation in many areas, including child prostitution. however, children who are sex trafficked or sexually exploited should be treated as victims, not criminals. in fact, approximately one out of seven runaway youth are likely victims of sex trafficking and roughly one out of three youths are lured into prostitution within 48 hours of running away from home. for this reason, h.r. 5111 would replace the term child prostitution with child sex trafficking. in the cybertip line, reporting categories to reinforce that children who are sex trafficking or sexually exploited are victims whose situation should be taken seriously when reported. it would also ensure the public recognizes that child prostitution is included in how they use the term child sex trafficking and thus should still be reported in the tip line. again, i want to thank congresswoman beatty, along with the education and work force committee and house leadership for recognizing

week-long campaign known as "operation cross-country" was conducted by the f.b.i., law enforcement officials and the national center for missing and exploited children. it underscores a heartbreaking relatey: human traffic something not a faraway problem, madam president. it is happening right here in america in all 50 states. each year thousands of men, women, and children are robbed of their basic freedom to live as they choose. they become victims of a rampant and evil crime coerced through intimidation and even through violence to work as laborers or processty substitutes. according to estimates from the polaris project, a nonprofit organization dedicated to fighting human trafficking, there were more than 5,000 potential trafficking cases in america last year. however, the precise number of domestic victims is unknown. it should be noted that sex trafficking affects individuals of all background and races, but it disproportionately impacts women both domestically and internationally. according to the polaris project, 85% of sex trafficking victims in the united states are women. although news headlines often g

addition to practicing law he is taught several class is at the school of law and has lectured frequently at the national advocacy center m prior to becoming the united states attorney both in the western district of columbia and has prosecuted a broad spectrum of criminal matters. >> we have ellis' to virginia air graduates in being the federal defenders and at that time serving as the ad jong professor at nyu school of law. and in 2008 teaching its universe in alabama 2010 to 2011 and professor at stanford law school.q0ç and is an adjunct professor at than what you. m. paul the hilton for the eastern district of virginia possible -- law school. we're expecting our only vote to attend 15:00 a.m. sunday the statements will be made a part of the record. her. >> we appreciate to appear at today's hearing last august and the american bar association house of delegates my boss spoke of his desire to forge a more just society to reform and strengthen the american justice system and said it is our duty to identify those areas to improve to advance the cause of justice and on behalf of the attorney-general of want to thank the

center for justice at new york university school of law and a tourney allen. it's about an hour. [applause] >> thank you so much ladies and gentlemen. welcome to the nationalconstitution center. it's such a pleasure to see you here. i'm jeffrey rosen the president have thiand thepresident have tl institution. the national constitution center as those of you that have been here before now is the only institution in america chartered by congress to disseminate information about the u.s. constitution on a nonpartisan basis. and that means that we bring together the best thinkers and scholars and commentators from all sides of the constitutional deviate to let you,

national constitution center. there is more coming down the line. it's full employment for law professors and constitution center executives. >> what about moderates? >> moderates look at it and say, is this yet another polarized issue that results in the benefits to millions of people being threatened by one line out of context in the the law? a rather obvious typo. they put them many the same level as federal exchanges. this law is aimed at affordable care for everybody, universal care. that's an obvious thing. i think a lot of moderates, if obamacare appears to be threatened, it will be like medicare in the 60s. reagan called it creeping soc.lism but it is the most popular program in the government. >> to think on a typo they would wipe it out. every time i have heard it all i see more. congressman mcdermott, clarence page and jeff rosen, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >>> coming up, sarah palin, she may not even be in georgia for today's republican primary election. but her impeachment spirit might as well be calling the shots. that's next. >>> plus, a chilling new

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national emergency act. part of the potential legislation would call for modification of the 2008 human trafficking law put into effect that is front and centeralked about the stories as you have the central american children that have to go down one particular road and then mexican children quickly deported. this act could potentially change that. that, of course, will be met with debate and avenue discussion from those people who want to see the children get to stay here. that is our week ahead. it might be a solution. >> one thing to call it a humane act. if you are talking about deporting kids who might be serious asylum seekers it is perhaps not humane at all. if the president deems this a refugee crisis isn't he going to open up the flood gates to more people from central america coming to the u.s.? >> that's a good question. the united states has a long history of providing protection and showing global leadership alleviating humanitarian suffering the world over. this really is a regional issue. we have seen this reflected in other countries in central america where others are actually filing applications for asylum in mexico. it is i

balances, everything the national constitution center wants to emphasize, they appreciated the judges cannot be intimidated in making a decision that is right on the facts and the lawmay be wrong on the political or popularity poll of the day. >> this is the poss exciting and inspiring constitutional news i've heard this week. so tell us, how precisely were you able to launch a campaign in favor of political independence? >> we've heard a lot about campaign finance and campaign reform. it is a particularly problematic issue for the judiciary, because judges are not there to raise money. we are prohibited from raising money, at least in the state of florida, and i think in other merit-retention states. so committees have to form to assist you. those are going to be lawyers, lawyers that may appear before you. that's why we're so pleased to have the american board of trial advocates, which is a bipartisan, nonpartisan organization of lawyers understanding the threat. it's not about being for business, against business, for consumers, against consumers, it's about judges who, when everyone comes into the courtroom, that they are going to get a judge who will look at t

at the national immigrant justice center, we've been in some of these detention centers and seen the rapid processing of women and children and it's extremely concerning. our u.s. lawsons for individuals seeking safety on our shores. and yet what we're doing is expediting these processes and denying individuals access to counsel in a meaningful day in court. >> okay. so people are going to be -- there's a lot of people saying, look, we can't take these people, we've got to show them, it's the most humane thing to do is show them they shouldn't be taking on this onerous, dangerous journey to come all the way up here and the best thing, the tough-love response is to process and deport them as quickly as possible. what is wrong with that? >> we cannot compromise due process protections in this country to deter individuals. that is not the solution. just imagine a 6-year-old child doesn't speak english, has just made a horrendous journey through the most dangerous migration corridor in the world, coming to the united states seeking protection and not being able to exercise her legal rights under our laws. we are denying these children the basic fundamental rights of acc

and is currently director for the center of adolescent help and the law at chapel hill. recently, ms. english was a member of the national research council committee which issued the report titled confronting commercial sexual exploitation and sex trafficking of minors in the u.s. following is ms. latrell, an assistant principal at the grossmont union high school in san diego, california. after recognizing that children in her school district were being subjected to child sex trafficking, ms. latrell and her colleagues partnered with law enforcement to develop training for teachers so that professionals in the classrooms are able to recognize the warning signs. and then finally, we have ms. megan tui. ms. trkszui is an investigative reporter for reuters in new york. so we're going to begin with ms. chang for your testimony. once again, please, limit your opening remarks to five minutes. once each of you have concluded, then we'll begin the question and answer period. >> thank you. thank you again for inviting me to testify today. my name is ju young chang and i'm the associate commissioner to oversee federal foster care

francisco in addition to practicing law he has taught several classes and a lecture and has also lectured frequently at the u.s. department of justice national advocacy center in columbia south carolina. prior to becoming the united states attorney he served 12 years as an assistant united states attorney in the astern district of columbia and he's prosecuted a broad spectrum of criminal matters. thank you mr. chairman. >> well we have several graduate. our last witness is mr. david patten. he's been an executive director and attorney and chief of the federal defenders of new york since july of 2011. from 2002 to 2008 he worked at the federal defenders as a trial attorney in the manhattan office and during that time he also served as a adjunct professor at nyu school of law. in 2008 he taught as an assistant professor at the university of alabama and from 2010 to 2011 as an associate professor of law at stanford law school read he currently teaches professional responsibility and criminal law as an adjunct professor of law at nyu. he clerked for the united states district court for the eastern district of virginia and graduate university of virginia law sch

balances, everything the national constitution center wants to emphasize, they appreciated the judges cannot be intimidated in making a decision that is right on the facts and the law, but may be wrong on the political or popularity poll of the day. >> this is the most exciting and inspiring constitutional news i've heard this week. so tell us, how precisely were you able to launch a campaign in favor of political independence? >> we've heard a lot about campaign finance and campaign reform. it is a particularly problematic issue for the judiciary, because judges are not there to raise money. we are prohibited from raising money, at least in the state of florida, and i think in other merit-retention states. so committees have to form to assist you. those are going to be lawyers, lawyers that may appear before you. that's why we're so pleased to have the american board of trial advocates, which is a bipartisan, nonpartisan organization of lawyers understanding the threat. it's not about being for business, against business, for consumers, against consumers, it's about judges who, when everyone comes into the courtroom, that they are going to get a judge who will loo

balances, everything the national constitution center wants to emphasize, they appreciated the judges cannot be intimidated in making a decision that is right on the facts and the law but may be wrong on the political or popularity poll of the day. >> this is the most exciting and inspiring constitutional news i've heard this week. so tell us, how precisely were you able to launch a campaign in favor of political independence? >> we've heard a lot about campaign finance and campaign reform. it is a particularly problematic issue for the judiciary, because judges are not there to raise money. we are prohibited from raising money, at least in the state of florida, and i think in other merit-retention states. so committees have to form to assist you. those are going to be lawyers, lawyers that may appear before you. that's why we're so pleased to have the american board of trial advocates, which is a bipartisan, nonpartisan organization of lawyers understanding the threat. it's not about being for business, against business, for consumers, against consumers, it's about judges who, when everyone comes into the courtroom, that they are going to get a judge who will look