ukraine if russia accepts this. regime change except this violation of international law right on their borders for the sake of business as usual and the murder of hundreds if not thousands of people in the eastern ukraine then the us wins because that goal is accomplished if russia is finally forced to the point where they feel they have to intervene out of humanitarian concern for their blood kin they are being murdered on the other side of an artificial historical twenty year old border and then the us wins again because they will use that as a rallying cry to you continue to push the e.u. and its relations against russia and the ukraine will be torn apart by even civil war to an even greater degree than it already is so proconsul newland has really played her hand quite skillfully but this is the european continent we're talking about we're not talking about air conditioned offices in washington d.c. we faced the prospect of a failed state and ethnic cleansing in europe and europe is doing virtually nothing . we

situation in ukraine and strategic direction of the government in ukraine. minister klimkin is an experienced and highly regarded diplomat, a physicist and mathematician by training, he has over 20 years experience in ukraine's diplomatic corps. he served as ukraine's deputy foreign minister and around the world in uk and germany most recently serving as the ambassador of ukraine to germany. minister klimkin played a role in signing of eu association agreement having initialed each page of the agreement and perhaps being one of few who actually read it in its entirety. minister klimkin is married to a fellow diplomat and they have two sons. she holds first secretary in ukraine netherlands. please welcome me in welcoming the minister of foreign affairs pavlo klimkin. [ applause ] >>> it's indeed a pleasure to speak today to the atlantic council and we have today a real proof for transatlantic partnership and transatlantic solidarity. we are talking about the whole civilized world, standing behind us, standing beside us. the recent day just made by the europea

ukraine is broke. it has no option to continue subsidizing the price of energy and price of gas in ukraine up to 40% or 25% or whatever. there is going to be short-term adjustment. it will be tough in ukraine, there is no getting around that. the most important thing for ukraine is start becoming more efficient in use of energy, consume less of it. that will improve its market power relative to russia. it will reduce potential debt it has to russia and get energy at an efficient market price for the future. then ukraine can take advantage of other economic reforms because only with market prices for energy will investors have a good idea what kinds of investments in industry and agriculture and makes, what kinds do not. it will be tough in the short-term but liberalizing the economy and bringing a market price for gas are essential. >> we still need to put a finer point on tough in the short term. i think if i understood the question right, the leverage equation changes dramatically, the political leve

russia ukraine border thanks so much for that. just to bring it on background information on unfortunately similar in some ways incident back in october of two thousand and one was when assad passenger jets exploded over the black sea according to the aviation agency investigation on that occasion it was downed by an. launch of a surface to air missile from ukraine. by russia although ukraine denies it was firing any rockets at the top of the plane was heading from tel aviv. to the russian city of nova seventy eight people that particular flight. now earlier this year another malaysian airlines flight when missing after leaving kuala lumpur for beijing now you remember this i'm sure it lost contact with air traffic control on march the eighth the company reported the aircraft missing a massive world wide search began for that jet and as yet no traces ever being found of it in going operation to locate that plane is currently centered hundreds of kilometers off the eastern coast of australia so potentially what we're looking at her

that ukraine will fall quickly. that ukraine is not resigned the to being a member of the rename ld version of the soviet union, and that there is a rising world in ukraine to deal with the legacies of wasted 20 years of ukraine and independence and that major reforms are necessary, but also acts of will designed to show ukraine determination to be an independent nation. this is the context. and i think, putin has to realize by now that he has to think of alternative choices. i outlined them more fully in my fam statement, but the first is of course, some accommodation with the west. and i tried to outline what may be the principle features of such accommodation. one that doesn't meet the maximum objectives of those in the west, who would like to see ukraine, a member of the european union, but also nato. but also doesn't meet the maximum objectives of russia, which would like to see ukraine subordinated to moscow. there's other specifics that would have to be considered. but that in a sense strikes me as a possible

what happens next in ukraine? this is inside story. >> you're watching inside story on al jazeera america. i'm ray suarez. we're discussing the crisis in ukraine, and we want to end by asking what happens next? ambassador hunter, a group of foreign ministers have gotten together, they're talking about trying to forge a hard and fast for real cease-fire. can they do it? >> oh, i think as soon as the parties want it to happen, particularly if putin wants it to happen, that can be put in place. the osce is there, and they're very good at making these things work. what is happening now ukraine is now on the map. it has a chance to have a better economy. it has a chance to have better politics. russia has a chance to be a part of the outside world. we have a chance to go back to the architectural building that george h.w. bush started 20 years ago, and it went off the rails. this could come out in a positive way if the key players say let's bet on the future and not the terrible things of the pass. >> alexander, is the

a strong ukraine. the respect for their sovereignty. and the possibilities of stability for the region. mr. foreign minister, please. >> good morning, everyone. state.retary of foruld like to thank you your commitment, for your solidarity, and also for your personal leadership. and also for your commitment to democratic, united, and european ukraine. it is my first visit. it is a pleasure to be here. and to discuss all issues of bilateral agenda. foremost, their .ngoing development in ukraine i am glad we have the same regional development. and i feel a real commitment and a real solidarity here. we have, in ukraine, clear commitment to the settlement of the situation, and the peace ukrainethe president of . give peace a chance. it includes three main dimensions. it is about the escalation, and that reaching a cease-fire. secondly, it is about humanitarian dimension. and restoring their disruptive on, the ground. of course, it is about political damage. --t caps on what is critical bilateral cease-fire with the aim of restoring the terr

stant regions of ukraine. we demonstrated it yesterday at the press conference all of the sites who were inviting and still inviting this record. the groups of the russianing military operations, russia are supporting terrorists in spreading terror in the eastern ukraine. through the whole period of this, supported by russia, it has never publically called on its citizens to refrain from joining illegal armed groups of the territory of ukraine. this fact speaks for itself t 208 of the criminal court of russia federation states that, i quote, participation in armed groups which are not determined by the federal law as well as participation in such armed groups on the territory will the purpose contrary to the interest of russian federation is punished by 5 to 10 year imprisonment ends quote. since no russian national has been brought to justice for such actions, there is often one conclusion: their participation in illegal armed groups in ukraine with the russian federation. mr. president, the situation of the

ukraine is broke. it has no option to continue subsidizing the price of energy and price of gas in ukraine up to 40% or 25% or whatever. there is going to be short-term adjustment. it will be tough in ukraine, there is no getting around that. the most important thing for ukraine is start becoming more efficient in use of energy, consume less of it. that will improve its market power relative to russia. it will reduce potential debt it has to russia and get energy at an efficient market price for the future. then ukraine can take advantage of other economic reforms because only with market prices for energy will investors have a good idea what kinds of investments in industry and agriculture and makes, what kinds do not. it will be tough in the short-term but liberalizing the economy and bringing a market price for gas are essential. >> we still need to put a finer point on tough in the short term. i think if i understood the question right, the leverage equation changes dramatically, the political leve

equipment into ukraine. it must actively work to de-escalate tensions and use its considerable influence for separatist groups in the crane to that end. political efforts are essential. showed somety talks profit -- showed some promise. -- an extension of the osce observer mission to include border monitoring may activities -- monitoring activities. mr. president we have thought the situation in ukraine has already caused too much tragedy. the horrific loss of this flight has added immeasurably to that told you it is time for the international community to stand as one to ensure those responsible for this tragic crime are held to account and to make every effort to bring to an end the violence and destabilization in ukraine. thank you. >> i give to the floor to the representative of luxembourg. >> [speaking foreign language] [no audio] as for ask and implement a >> -- and is -- implemented a unilateral cease-fire. diplomatic efforts should continue. the personal commitment of the secretary-general since the

this is said to have happened in eastern ukraine. and there are reports of charred bodies being found near that town in gravovo. witnesses on the ground talking about charred bodies, and this is a picture that was up loaded on twitter, said to show debris from the plane, the fuselage of the play malaysian airlines plane that went down in eastern ukraine with 295 people on board. malaysian airlines has confirmed it lost contact with the airline when it with us in ukrainian air space. the russians say -- okay, this is the actual location of where those charred bodies are reported to have been found in eastern ukraine, not far from the border with russia. rory challands is in moscow for us. rory what is the latest information coming out of moscow on this accident? >> well, i have just been looking on my phone at some flight plan details, and what they seem to suggest at the moment is that there is a fairly dramatic rerooting of aviation away from the area of which this flight went down, and you can understand why that would be the case.

is a fog of one part of ukraine and did say in another part of ukraine well ok let's let's move on or you don't believe that the referendum was warranted in the case of the association agreement but i wonder if you i mean it's not only about ukrainians wanting to join us and those myths about your friend on about free will you know the referendum for that to be democratic. it cannot happen in the presence of the military was scholarship of ready to shoot number one number two it cannot come without a lot of work before listening also the other side and so on you know we are sort of looking for the kind of complaints and the chill of the reasons beyond that two hundred go to my to belong for some time to russia which would make moscow a little bit to smell makes such a dramatic. you know. friend cried commenting about the latest agreement that ukraine signed with the european union and whether the majority of people in ukraine actually support that and let me i just don't want to both of us to be dropped in that back and forth because i don't think it will leave us anywhere because it'

like to see a federated ukraine with an eastern ukraine that it can retain some independence over particularly economically speaking for the people of eastern ukraine to ask them to live in within. the same state with a government that has called them subhumans and asked for them to be cleansed from the country that has been massacring them with heavy artillery and air strikes for the past three months this is simply absurd and extremely cynical it would be akin to asking the kosovar albanians in serbia to go back to living with the serbians again what we're looking at certainly ethnic cleansing and acts the border on genocide and to ask the ukrainian the eastern ukrainian people to go back to living under the rule of this regime is simply insane you know ray one of the interesting things is that it this may all may happen but western media won't report on it if the reporting on ukraine is abysmal in western media. i'm sure viewers watching this program are unaware of many facts that have even been mentioned. yeah i was going to say that it's highly ironic for me i used to be a soviet speciali

ukraine president now says armed forces in ukraine did not take any action against airborne target. leisure airline says on the twitter feed it has "lost contact with malaysian airlines flight 17 from amsterdam." that is the word from malaysian airliners. we are told airline is preparing a statement now. the white house says president obama has been briefed on the situation and spoke by phone today with russian president putin before any of this happened to discuss new sanctions announced yesterday. moscow requested that phone call allegedly. they have tweeted "i'm shocked by reports a plane crashed they cal, we are launching immediate investigation." here is what we believe in the early going has happened. with every indication seems to be is that separatist working in the east of ukraine that were pro-russians fired off some sort of missile surface-to-air missile. there are indications that group they were trying to hit another plane. we have recently learned this. and now it appears instead they hit a passenger jet, a boeing 777 with 295 people on board. and we've just gotten wor

and security of ukraine i mean. i mean what's he going to do take over donetsk and handed over to scotland i mean it's it's absolutely spurious it makes not that broad i'm sure he will very much appreciate you as been a very good friend and helping us thanks for taking the time to be with us and updating us as well appreciated from a don't know problem that i'm sort of psycho good buy. muslims show the world are marking international could stay which traditionally used to express solidarity with the palestinian people and this year most of the banners in the streets are denouncing israeli aggression in gaza protesters in iran were chanting on tuesday only slogans and burning the country's flag in the capital to run indeed the rally was intended by the iranian president elsewhere similar scenes today across india to their thousands of muslims marched in support of palestine and held prayers how there was a high turnout in london as well from where pali boyko reports next. says the arabic word for jerusalem and this i

coalition to support ukraine. its sovereignty its territorial integrity its right to determine its own destiny and to increase the pressure on russia for actions that have undermined ukraine's sovereignty territorial integrity and. ability to make its own decisions the core of that coalition is the united states and our european allies. in recent days i've continued to coordinate closely with our allies and our partners to ensure a unified response to the shoot down of malaysian airlines flight seventeen and russia's continued arming of the separatist and i've spoken several times with prime minister route of the netherlands and prime minister abbott of australia. yesterday i had a chance to speak with prime minister cameron of the united kingdom president long of france chancellor merkel of germany and prime minister renzi of italy. we are united in our view that the situation in ukraine ought to be resolved diplomatically and a sovereign independent ukraine is no threat to russian interests. but we've also made

is responsible because it launched this military operation in eastern ukraine and the u.s. supported it moscow has also raised a number of questions for kiev to answer including why it hadn't closed the airspace over what was clearly a war zone such immigrants why did you create an air traffic controller send a passenger flights to an area of military clashes an area which was used to carry out strikes against civilian targets and where there were anti-aircraft systems operating all members of the un security council including russia and the united states have called for a credible impartial investigation of the disaster it will take time before any results come through but the blame game is already in full swing down to check on washington d.c. now after the plane came down kid was quick to blame the anti-government forces and for the tragedy here's what the accusations are based on firstly there is a video released by kiev purporting to show a book surface to air missile system in eastern ukraine and with one of its rockets missing also the jet crashed on territory contro

i mean the military commander in the yeern ukraine -- eastern ukraine region has been a colonel in gru. the russian secret police organization. clearly this is controlled by russia. these militants wouldn't do this unless they had the blessing and operational support from the russians. so we need to place this firmly on putin's devic -- desk and demand that putin get out of ukraine so this doesn't happen again. if he doesn't get out, then this kind of thing is going to happen again. it's intolerable and we ought to say that and take appropriate action which ought to be stronger than what we've seen to date. >> u.s. intelligence officials are trying to determine if russian personnel were actually on the scene when the missile was fired at the plane. if they were, would it surprise you? >> it wouldn't necessarily surprise me. i don't think that's necessary. if they gave the order to fire, then they are the ones who are culpable. certainly they supplied the surface-to-air missiles. they didn't get them from anywhere else. the ukrainian government doesn't have them, because they don't have

what happens in ukraine now?oes this inflame -- let's assume for the moment this was somehow shot out of the sky. does it inflame matters? if it was done by the russian separatist its does it focus international ire on vladmir putin for supplying them with the missiles? does that force a, a pressure on russia to back away from this conflict? and does it actually, damp down the conflict there? or does it go the other direction, does it inflame it? russia feels, there is a lot of nationalism in russia. they're very much in support of what putin is doing in ukraine and has done in crimea, does it inflame it even further? >> it is important to remember exactly how this went down. this began with vladmir putin invading another country and taking its territory by force. it was quiet. it was under the radar, it was done with social media. you never really saw pictures. i was there in crimea i days after, in the days before and after this happened. you couldn't even see it on the streets. it was happening behind gates an

a question not about ukraine. that the court in the hague have found the suit against you fair and they said that russia has to pay 50 billion of and the question, is it true that from russia weapons are coming into ukraine? >> translator: with regard to the first question, i've heard that such a verdict is expected. we need to wait for the fact itself. and after that, i will be able to make comments. you have already said that the court hearings have not finished. and it was expected. and besides, the other side will use all the means to prove its position. with regard to ukraine and supply of weapons, i already said that we have had requests long ago, give permission for the osce monitors from the sides of the separatists. we promised already over a month ago, but the cease-fire has not started. so the president decided to, as a goodwill gesture, to invite these monitors so that they could see for themselves. they were dragging their legs in osce. with some reasons. so those who are interested that there are no

for ukraine. except the foundation for the future of gas relationship which is mutually agreed and not dependent on the unilateral discount from the other side. so that is the starting point where things need to move from here is ideally to get the team that decides back to the negotiating table and the eu has indicated its willingness to do that. ukraine has indicated its willingneswillingness that it wn back to the negotiations. they are still not responding positively. but i hope that in the end it will also see that europe is its largest market for gas and it needs to be seen as a reliant gas supplier and this new competitive world of gas that we see internationally and that all sides would actually benefit from an agreement and relationship that they would work out together. with 30 seconds to prepare your put on the spot and i think we are in pretty good shape. thank you. that was extremely helpful in a fantastic complement to what we have heard. .. chance to very briefly close, and then we

the whereabouts of a british journalist who disappeared in east ukraine three days ago remain unknown but a fellow reporter who was with graham phillips when the pair were abducted was released and told r.t. they've been beaten there in english because sums up what details we know. the information about the beatings is coming from another journalist who was detained where the ground philips cameramen working for the news agency we spoke to him as he was on his way to the hospital he was released by military on thursday and this is how he described what has happened to them. we were going. around to film a group of men i followed and that's when we were pushed to put bags over our heads but before i noticed crimean military judging by their insignia we were put in a car and driven firstly put in a kind of cell together but we were later separated they started torturing us. graham screaming and i was screaming too it was horrible they told graham they were taking him to western ukraine and. then they left me outside. has mentioned they're both him and ground phillips along with two othe

officials believe it was a surface to air missile that shot down the malaysian plane over ukraine the u.s. is not pointing the blame thinker just yet president obama spoke with the ukrainian leader. we can be sure that the blame game in the coming days and weeks is going to be vicious there are questions as to who had the capability to do this the ukrainian military certainly has the capability a launch like that would require a team of specialists as we hear from many experts and there is another question why was this malaysian airline flying over the conflict zone we know that u.s. airlines had been avoiding the area for some time to size me because it was deemed unsafe what kind of instructions that this plane would see from the. well what exactly was happening inside the cockpit just moments before the tragedy hopefully we'll get more answers when investigators get hold of the black box of course one of the main questions at this point is who is going to investigate this the u.n. secretary general spoke out calling for an international investigation one of the concerns moving forw

body the russia ukraine border area. yes of course got there now it's great britain is that we are the region where we have seen a good especially intense fighting between. our forces and the ukrainian military and now we have already heard from the donetsk people's republic representatives were saying that they have nothing to do with it because they have absolutely no ammunition no weapons but a boeing seven seven seven seven seven seven at the height of at the height of ten kilometer now malaysian air officials at the same time have a one point said that they have no information on any of their planes missing or past itself now there is information that the plane has gone off the radar. and the air traffic controllers have lost connection with the plane add the time of the. crash course as you have said two hundred ninety five people on board that fifteen crew members two hundred eighty passengers seven. all presumed dead and as you have just mentioned reporting that they have seen debris and human bodies on the groun

breaking news at of ukraine, this is from ukraine security.ne has to taint to russians -- detained to russians at the border. at least one of those russians haven't linked to the so-called buk missile system. ukraine active on their border. this is not specify where on the border these two russians were detained. >> one of these detainees had a russian military id as well. that is an important detail as ukraine detained these two robles. >> there's been real discussion about ukraine being far more active about finding people. >> we want to give you the latest update on the two big stories. the malaysian airliner, ukraine and russia blending each other. state security said they intercepted phone conversations between crowe -- pro-militants having discussions on the plane. they have detained two people. vladimir putin says ukraine's government bears overall responsibility. 298 people were killed. airlines around the world adjusting the routes to avoid the area where the plane was shot down. east, israeli forces launching their biggest operation

unimpeded international investigation after a malaysian airlines passenger jet crashes in eastern ukraine killing all two hundred ninety eight. relatives of the victims overwhelmed with grief. and loss of more than one hundred fifty of its citizens and the boeing seven seven seven came down. to kiev and the government forces are accusing each other of bringing down the plane you're an aussie international we take a closer look at the blame game that's well on the way. headlines live from moscow it's the international with me rule thank you for joining us today. deborah and corpses scattered across an area covering fifteen kilometers and the aftermath of a malaysia airlines passenger plane crash in eastern ukraine this was on thursday all two hundred ninety eight people on board were killed fewer than half of the victims have been recovered so far witnesses spoke of seeing bodies falling from the sky. i saw a piece of the plane fall about four hundred meters from my apartment when i went to check it out i saw scattered bodies from a distance it looked like debris was falling but as it turn

today ukraine is morning. ukrainians are pushing the embassies of netherlands, indonesia, united kingdom, germany, belgium, philippines, canada in order to lay down flowers and express their sorrow. the ukrainians have already addressed international interpol and, --ers to take and invest a an international investigation. we believe this investigation will bring the truth and all perpetrators will be punished. yesterday ukrainian leadership announced a basic version of what has happened with boeing. it was stated it was an act of terror. the position of the government is based on the data from different intelligence and open sources. aircraft wase the shot down. theral days before, around same occasion, two ukrainian jets were shot down and terrorist leaders claimed their responsibility for these acts. interception of telephone conversations between the terrorist leaders and their coordinator, the russian --itary intelligence conference terrorists are standing behind this crime. this conversation is recorded a

and get serious about trying to resolve hostilities within ukraine in a way that respects ukraine's sovereignty and respects the right of the ukrainian people to make their own decisions about their own lives. and time is of the essence our friends and allies need to be able to recover those who were lost that's the least we can do as the least that decency demands. families deserve to be able to lay their loved ones to rest with dignity. the world deserves to know exactly what happened. and the people of ukraine deserve to determine their own future thanks. thank you for other actors the freshness of how. i was president obama speaking live from washington really just reiterating his demand for that to be opened an independent investigation of the crash site and calling on russia once again to help facilitate that ok we can take a very short break now thing be back with you in just a moment. coming i think the afghans are invincible they're too independent minded they love freedom . they don't want to see foreigners in their country and will fight to guerilla war till the end. on marriage and

we know that ukraine accepted it and in fact, this morning, ukraine was saying that they hoped to see because of their expertise in these matters. so maybe a timeline of what exactly the u.s. could do, but as we've been saying since this area of the crash site is now seeming to be fully in control of the separatists, even though it's within ukraine's territory, it's unclear whether they would allow these international observers that are already there or u.s. investigators for that matter on to that site. i mean, the real worry has been how much has that scene already been moved? have the block boxes been taken away? that's something that's being discussed all day long and also the big question is what this going to do for the relationship between the u.s. and russia? if there is to be one at all, and they do cooperate on some important issues, we've mentioned syria and iran, for example, and as this has been going on, i mean the u.s. and russia have sort of compartmentalized those issues of cooperation, kept going on those as much as possible, even while the u.s. and europe continue t

a passenger plane shot down over ukraine, 298 people killed. now, the hunt to find those responsible begins. ukraine blaming pro-russian militants, russia blaming u crane for the situation. this morning, live team coverage with new information we are learning about the crash. this morning, possible motives for the crime and the innocent passengers caught in this awful, awful cross fire. >> certainly a lot to tell you about. >> i'm in for christine romans. >> i'm john berman. we have the latest in the attack that brought down malaysian flight 17. this jet was blown out of the sky by what officials say was a surface-to-air miss sill. right now, the evidence points to pro-russian separatists as the suspected attackers. president obama warning the world is watching as concern grows as the crime scene, the area where the plane was brought down is being compromised. our coverage of the crash begins with nic robertson. what is the latest this morning? >> reporter: just 121 bodies recovered so far. 95 search and rescue people involved by the government

military experience in ukraine. but that is not being believed in many many capitols in the west. >> we're just hearing right now that ukraine's prime minister has ordered an investigation into what he calls this airplane catastrophe in eastern ukraine. i'll remind our viewers that we are hearing reports that a malaysia airlines plane with 295 people on board has crashed on the border with russia. and they were saying earlier the planed hasn't reached russian air place. >> yeah, that's true. i was looking at some charts that purported to show the routes that this airplane was taking en route from amsterdam, and it seemed to be bisecting the two cities so this appears to be right over the conflict zone as the analyst was saying a few moments ago, civilian planes should not be flying over war zones. but they are saying it never reached russian territory, and by implication the russians would be saying we have nothing to do with this. >> all right. rory, let's head to stephanie on the line from the malaysian capitol. s

it ended up on the ground we believe in ukraine.se russia and ukraine have been at each other's throats in recent months. whether this is some kind of a military attack, some kind of a revenge shoot-down, we do not know but malaysia airlines is confirming that there has been quote, an incident. that is all they are saying. the airport where this thing took off apparently is refusing to comment. you might recall back when malaysia airlines, that malaysia airlines flight disappeared over what we believe to be the indian ocean you might are recall that malaysia airlines was very slow on releasing information. it is perhaps no surprise all they're saying there has been an incident but that's all we know right now. we hate to get too far out on a him what happened to this particular jet. jenna: definitely, well-put, jon. we're look act news we're getting from sage r agencies like reuters. reuters says video you're seeing on the screen, also coming into our newsroom has been published by ukrainian activists. we can't forget the situation

of ukraine. the minister is an experienced and highly regarded diplomat. a physicist and imagihas served foreign minister and around world most recently serving as the ambassador of ukraine to germany. minister klimkin played a key role of ukraine's recent signing of the agreement and perhaps being one of few who have actually read it in its entirety. minister klimkin is married to a fellow diplomat and they have two sons. they holds the post of first secretary at the embassy of ukraine in the netherlands. please join me in welcoming ukrain's minister of foreign affairs pavlo klimkin. [ applause [ applause ] >> it's indeed a pleasure to speak today at the atlantic couns counsel. we have today a real proof of transatlantic partnership and transatlantic solidarity. we are talking about the whole se civilized world standing by us. staying behind us. there is a decision today just made by the european union about the next wave of sanctions. of course we don't need sanctions for the sake of sanctions.

from amsterdam where the plane took a flight now we also have our correspondents in ukraine as well in fact our spanish correspondent francisco was one of the first international journalists on the scene at the crash site right now. his report. the situation in this kilometer that is around is that you can see several pieces of the aircraft and also several bodies that the situation is really complicated and it's a tragedy when we talk with the fire man they say that they been implied no one and what they're talking about the numbers it's almost three hundred people who were in this aircraft the last information on that day in my last airline's heart is when they were in the air in an air and they didn't have any more information on their start the government a korean government and the local government to talk and who are accused each other about who was the responsible the militia antique here said that they don't have the capability to shoot an aircraft who is in a distance of ten thousand meters and they were saying that is the ukrainian army forces who shot down this aircraft of m

territory controlled by russian-backed separatists in ukraine. over the last several days, our hearts have been absolutely broken as we have learned more about the extraordinary and beautiful lives that were lost. men, women, and children and infants who were killed so suddenly and so senselessly. our thoughts and prayers continue to be with their families around the world who are going through just unimaginable grief. i've had the opportunity to speak to a number of leaders around the world whose citizens were lost on this flight. all of them remain in a state of shock, but frankly also in a state of outrage. our immediate focus is on recovering those who were lost, investigating exactly what happened and putting forward the facts. we have to make sure that the truth is out and that accountability exists. now, international investigators are on the ground. they have been organized. i've sent teams and other countries have sent teams. they are prepared. they are organized to conduct what should be the kinds of protocols and scouring and collectin

officials confirmed to nbc news what ukraine had alleged. the plane was, indeed, brought down by a surface to air missile. news of the crash broke while president obama was on the phone with russian president vladimir putin talking about new u.s. sanctions against russia that were announced yesterday. both president obama and the vice president addressed the tragedy this afternoon. >> obviously the world is watching reports of a downed passenger jet near the russia/ukraine border. >> apparently had been shot down. shot down. not an accident. blown out of the sky. >> ukraine's president is calling what happened, "neither an accident or a catastrophe. it's a terrorist attack." president obama spoke with him this afternoon to offer help and emphasize the crash site should remain intact until international investigators can get there. just hours ago, president putin said that ukraine is responsible as the plane was shot down in that country's airspace and implied it wouldn't have happened if ukraine hadn't started a new offensive against pro-rus

has become and how it affects countries and families well beyond ukraine's borders. nearly three hundred innocent people from many countries some of whom are represented by members of this council were killed the casualties include a professional staff member of the world health organization and i was shocked to learn just now that nearly two thirds of the victims come from the netherlands and that there were eighty children on board that flight we convey our deepest condolences to the families and friends of the victims. the secretary general stated yesterday that there is clearly a need for a full and transparent international investigation. united nations is fully ready to cooperate we have been in touch yesterday and today with a k o n i k o has offered ukraine officials its investigative capacity in order to put together an international team ok when ukrainian officials are speaking today and the secretary general is scheduled to speak with ukrainian president poroshenko tomorrow. following the thirty june announcement by president poroshenko of the end of the t

he is en route to ukraine. as you pointed out, he has a unique perspective. >> you and i have been sitting here cushy in new york and ryan has been in and out of these areas many times. experts weighsome in, and some less than experts waiting and. neednot convey that we expert analysis, and we get that from chief washington correspondent peter cook. what have you learned in the last hour? how is the president adapting his schedule today? well, the president is about to speak at the port of wilmington up in delaware. the topic of conversation is supposed to be official trip investment and a new effort to bring the five tie -- private sector into that investment, but we are told the president will discuss the situation in ukraine, the downing of the plane in his opening comments. we told you earlier the white house is saying they have no confirmation as to what brought this plane down but the president did talk about it with vladimir putin. we know the subject came up to me initiated by president putin, and the f

distress signal of any kind the jet was last recorded as an altitude of ten kilometers of eastern ukraine a region racked by civil conflict infighting within the hour the fate of m.h. seventeen had become clear the jet had disintegrated in the air they breathe from it forming over a wide area anti-government forces arrived and secured the crash site within the hour confirming that there were no survivors global reaction was immediate we have to do everything in our capability to make sure an objective picture of what happened is made public and known to people in our country as well as the people of ukraine and the whole world. thoughts and prayers are with all the families of the passengers wherever they call out. to everyone connected with people on that flight this must be resolved by an international investigation to establish the facts of what has happened almost immediately speculation began that the jet had been shot down. i said turly because you don't have the actual we don't have all the detail you want to be sure of what i say apparently. have been shot down shot down not an ac

reporting for the ukraine russia border thanks once again. to put a new issue on the house and believe to be true that's new information that i'm hearing is yeah and. tons of nationalities and. well we heard just recently several dozen dutch nationals believed to be on board but but tens of different nationalities involved it is a global catastrophe for many to quote one person we do assume that the world all of those people a lot of malaysian people on the flight but also a lot of european different nationalities as well. ok let's say let's try this we're going to move to peter all over but before that let's just a little bit more information on there on those flights. indeed maybe peter can even bring us up to date will what is occurring peter. can you hear us at the moment yes i can hello yeah we're hearing a lot of information you brought to us not so long ago up by the european reaction what else are you hearing there well the whole airline industry everybody flying out of europe anybody in fact there is flies across. the this eastern pa

the government of ukraine. or are they prepared to work with the government of ukraine to arrive at a cease fire and a peace that takes into account the interests of all ukrainians. there has been some improved language at times over the last month coming from the kremlin and coming from president putin but what we have not seen is an actual transition and different actions that would give us confidence that that's the direction that they want to take and. we will continue to make clear that as russia. can. engages in efforts that are supporting the separatists that we have a capacity to increase the cost that we impose on them and we will do so not because we're interested in hurting russia for the sake of hurting russia but because we believe in standing up for the basic principle that a country's sovereignty and territorial integrity has to be respected as it is not . the united states or russia or germany or any other country that should be deciding what happens in that country. but. we don't see a u.s. mil