frye? >> commissioners, tim frye, staff department. one issue on the goldberg building, staff understand the significance of some of the interiors and the high level integrity on the interior of the building. however our code is rather limited in what we can designate in private interiors. generally we are limited to only publically accessible areas such as commercial spaces, lobby, etc. while the commission want to pursue landmark designation we have to look at areas that are identified as protected in certain sense as required a certificate of appropriateness. there may be other features of the building but they may not be protected by the designation in the future. just wanted to let you know that while you are considering that property. >> commissioner pearlman? >> that was one of my questions. but, i do want to just reiterate, i said this before. i grew up. my father knew all about rue goldberg and i saw a lot of the drawings and -- rue goldberg is something that touched my family. i'm excited about this particular building. i'm h

frye? >> commissioners, for the benefit of the public and for a matter of clarification, to piggy back on what commissioner john's stated we are hoping that the historic structure report would do exactly what commissioner john has mentioned. every building is different, every building should be evaluated on a case by case bases with at least the historic structure report. you would have the information, the decision makers would have the information to decide whether or not that change of use is a worthy proposal for that property. that said, i think it would be helpful for all of us to receive some clarification from this body as we don't want to create a situation where we are actually encouraging the disin investment in properties to utilize this incentive. we don't want people to actually avoid maintaining their building because they think, in two years 2 years i will be able to provide the structure and in a few years the building will fall down and i would be a more likely contender a

frye, words matter. i went back in the case of henry adams and rewatched the tape and the item was not tabled. it was continued to the call of the chair. tabled could imply that it's never going to come back again. continued to the call of the chair maybe as soon as the election results have been certified. afternoon commissioners, my name is jim nicko chair of the process and i'm also a pdr guy. the preservation that serviced light industrial job is not reserved for any one supervisorial district. it is about preservation of the working class of this city. sometimes it's not necessary to landmark a building in order to preserve it. the planning code gives you an option to convert significant buildings from light industrial to the more profitable uses such as office. here is the key point, if it's necessary to preserve the viability of the building, it didn't seem to be the case with the design center and economically successful building with a 90 percent occupancy rate of pure pdr businesses. it's not a

. >> commissioners, department staff, tim frye. what we discussed with the e ro is to help prepare this commission help with guidelines to developing preservation alternatives for eir's and we'll have a draft first and then discussion at another hearing. >> this stems from previous frustration from different projects of not getting enough options and even if it's a minimal option of preservation, we would like to see that and let the sponsors know it's okay sometimes to propose. that's where we are at and i just wanted to see the letter. do we have consensus on the letter? yes? >> yes. basically i had a question on what tim just said. did we consider, when you talk about some guidelines for eir's, did we talk about that much in the preservation element in the objectives? i don't know. that might be an option? >> that's a good question. let's go -- we'll go investigate. but that's a great point. >> yeah, that's a great opportunity. rhetorical just to think about it. >> thank you, no more comments we'll move on. >> very good, commiss

frye. >> commissioners, tim frye. i want to show you the support of the report. we work closely with heritage and appreciate them keeping us involved in the development of the report. we think it's great document. certainly support creation of a subcommittee and agree with the recommendations and think there is a lot of potential there that we can come up with some really creative ways to further the goals outlined in the document. >> commissioner wolfram. >> it looks like i missed it, your priorities for hpc action on the slide, is that in the packet as well? >> it is not. >> maybe we can get that. it's kind of hard to read on the slide. >> okay. sure. >> there is one copy. i don't know. >> maybe we can get that. >> sure. >> commissioner pearlman in >> thank you. it's fascinating. i drive by jordan's bar. i haven't gone in to have a drink, but i think it's significant in our city to have these places. i wanted to agree with something mr. sugaya said about the issue because where the he land is where the roxy is so astronomical and to keep the roxy there, you kno

. >> good afternoon, commissioners, tim frye here to share with you the results of yesterday's historic preservation commission hearing. to begin, i do want to mention the commissioner president hasz appointed two members to the subcommittee. commissioners hyland and matsuda will form that committee. i'm sure if we asked the commission they would be delighted to have a member of the planning commission as part of that subcommittee. they intend on meeting over the next month and provide specific recommendations how the department and the commissions can implement some of the recommendations in the san francisco architectural heritage white paper on cultural assets. we are happy to relay the information to this commission if the commission does want to participate in that committee. the hearing started with a meeting of the architectural review committee. they reviewed the design for the van ness brt, that's going to run in front of city hall and the portion located within the civic center landmark district. as you are probably aware the historic preservation commission as well as the civ

imperfect not because we have a failing fleet but we're building additional the central subway the tim frye light rail and other trains are important to getting folks to work and we need to make sure we have trains that work. when the doors break the train goes out of service which the trains are installed on the tracks the trains are out of service what is great with the current fleet they've need replace 80 repair up to 5 thousand miles the trains we anticipate receiving through the contract those trains will run 50 thousand miles before service that's significant in and of itself when those trains hits the street i'm excited and hope you'll support it today >> supervisor avalos. >> thank you. i want to add my voice to the course and judge want to go back about 20 years to 1997 when we had our first arrive of the brat us at the time san francisco was of the mentality we could fix muni in one hundred and 20 days. we have vehicles that doesn't work for long periods of time or need maintenance the new contract is something that will have a higher standard so i want to congratulate the mta fo

frye? >> commissioners, tim fry, i hear your concerns about sustainability policies. just to give you a little bit more background, this was really meant to align with a lot of discussions as shelley mentioned with the studies prepared by preservation green lab and other organizations to show that alignment between preservation and sustainability. so we do have some existing policies in other elements that we were trying to also connect to. i think i hear where you are going with this and we'll rephrase these and rework them and may reach out to you on some of those but we'll definitely work on these at the next hearing to show you. >> thank you. we'll open up public comment. any member of the public wish to comment on this objective, seeing none, we'll close that. we'll move on to objective 9. >> one about the energy use to be more specific about what we mean there because i think somebody in the public might think that's your pg & e bill. it's a much more extensive kind of analysis in all of our systems that are using energy. >> thank you for your comments. i have t

frye, if i'm reading this correctly, the top of the elevator pan is 40 feet? >> correct. i would defer to clarify. for a point of clarification you may want to indicate in your approval that it's within the permitted obstruction requirements of the code. >> just to clarify that point. i believe they can bring the penthouse height and stay within the permitted obstructions over the height limit. however if it turned out they could not increase the massing over that height, then we could alternatively raise the pit which is the higher exception over the height limit and would stick with what's allowed. >> thank you. commissioners, any questions? >> yeah. >> commissioner johnck? >> in raising it, what are we talking about in terms of feet? >> making it even with the top of the proposed. >> okay. >> it's raising it maybe about 18 inches to two 2 feet. a little bit more. i'm sorry, you are right. only a couple feet. >> yeah, okay all right. >> just to keep it clean and even because i do believe from the top. >> all right. >> commissioners any other questions at this time? no?

item 10: t. frye; 4155 575-68222 architectural heritage cultural heritage assets report - sustaining san francisco's living history. san francisco architectural heritage will give an informational presentation of its report on strategies for conserving cultural heritage assets. sf 101234 informational presentation. >> all right. good afternoon commissioners, mike bueller of san francisco heritage. thank you for the opportunity to preview our forthcoming report sustaining san francisco's living history here today. we are planning to release the report in early september and it's really a culmination of really the last year 1/2 of work on behalf of heritage but more importantly the work of the planning department and historic preservation commission in identifying the need to explore issues surrounding traditional uses and culturally significant uses. i'm here with desiree smith who has done work on the heritage the along with developing the report before you. desiree and i will switch on different slides. first of all, i just wanted to provide some background as to why san francisco h

frye. >> tim fry, staff department.thank you for the great memo and introduction to the incentives and the code. i want to reiterate that the zoning administrator is here in case you have any questions about how certain determinations are made. at the july hearing, i know the commission specifically had a question about criteria and what are these thresholds that the department uses when evaluating these properties for use of these planning code incentives. if you like we can have a discussion about that, but again, i just wanted to reiterate. we are available for questions and i'm happy to have conversation about criteria if you so wish. >> commissioner john's? >> i think this is an extremely interesting and i think very well done item. is there someway in connection with our on going outreach efforts to demonstrate the real

frye can claire fee -- this will be going before the planning commission at some point and i believe you should have a joint hearing at some point. i think you would be really good get your comments before then and vice versa. i think that also applies to the, this is going to be off topic but i'm going to pretend it's public comment. i think that would also be good with respect to the, i think i don't know where this is but i think staff is contemplating changes or appropriation -- proposals with respect to the implementation part for pdr uses, i think commissioner permanent -- pearlman is interested in that. i have been pushing that myself. on the other hand i haven't always trying to get more incentives for historic resources because we are not very good at that kind of stuff. you about but now we are faced with a kind of policy consideration and places taking effect especially south of market and i think there is a need to address that head on and that might be another opportunity to hear or to have the two commission consider that jointly at some hearing. and i think other commi

frye, i do have questions but with landmarks, we'll take it up there. it's about conversations about how to move stuff forward by guaranteeing hours. we'll take it up under that item. seeing no other comments we'll move on. >> that places you on commissioner matters, item 2, announcements. >> i have no announcements. >> item 3. corrections on adoption to the minutes of the meeting . >> any correction? any member of the public wish to comment? seeing none. >> i move we adopt them. >> second. >> thank you. >> commissioners there is a motion and second to adopt the minutes for august 6, 2014. on that motion, commissioner highland, commissioner jong, john, matsuda, wilson, commissioner president haas. that motion passes 7-0. which places you on item 4. commission comments and questions. >> commissioner pearlman? >> i want to disclose the mayor's office called me about the 50 fell street project and i didn't talk to anybody. i did call nicole wheaton back and let her know that i knew they were interested in a project. also, this is actually a question for th

frye and i have been working on a session not of the rules and recognizes, -- regulations that will expand on this section a little bit. we'll give pointers to people for how they can effectively organize and make their presentation and those helpful hints will refer to the appendix that i just wanted to make sure that everybody realized that we have not approached the folks on getting the presentation. >> do we have a motion? >> i so move that we adopt the rules and regulations with the amendments the people have proposed including yours. >> i second it. >> thank you. >> this you commissioners, on that motion to adopt the new rules and regulations as amended today, commissioner highland, commissioner johnck, commissioner john's, commissioner pearlman, commissioner wolfram. commissioner hasz. thank you, i appreciate you putting closure to this. >> thank you, with that i adjourn this meeting. >> [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >> >> the meeting is called to order, at 5:34, i would like to thank you for making the meeting possible and for members of the public if you could remember to turn off y

there are some things about this case i would like to straighten out and would like to work with tim frye if possible on this case because of his wealth of knowledge. that's what i'm asking and would love to hear back from the department. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, commissioners. todd welg of the group. i'm here to share with you the results of the second research poll that tall go as conducted this summer. a is survey of voters in the city about some important issues of development and future of this city. i want to note in particular an as astounding matter that 91 percent of those really believe it's important to protect small businesses and artist from displacement by development and 78 percent want the flower mart specifically. the number is an as astounding figure and obviously it's an issue of the highest possible priority for the city. we asked two questions about the proposition manual limit and the rational behind it which is the balanced growth with the city's capacity and housing and entrance itd to support it. it's clear a good solid majority 62

. >> good afternoon, commissioners, tim frye here to share with you the results of yesterday's historic preservation commission hearing. to begin, i do want to mention the commissioner president hasz appointed two members to the subcommittee. commissioners hyland and matsuda will form that committee. i'm sure if we asked the commission they would be delighted to have a member of the planning commission as

the east show, 87 degrees for the frye valley. temperatures will be warmer than yesterday but are pup we'll talk about your weekend coming up and i've got some good news for those of you who enjoy a glass of wine from time to time. they're picking those grapes and we'll tell you who is getting the harvest. first let's check your drive and say good morning to traffic tuesday. hi, mike. >> good morning, christina. no cause for any wining right now but we'll have that break down coming up. this is the san mateo bridge. i saw lights across that collection but from the foster city peninsula side, i didn't. 1301 up the peninsula looking like you're at speed and no problems here. your typical build for the tri-valley shows a little slowing coming into town. a quick look at san jose shows you the volume of traffic. it's an easy flow of traffic here. 880, 280 and 7:17, they are starting to clear most of those crews. back to you. >> our very own scott mcgrew was golfing for a fund-raiser. the school tries to bring dental health to needy chi

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