elizabeth holtzman was particularly doggedly strong in her questioning. one of the things you watch this testimony is that the committee operates under the clock, and everybody gets five minutes, which is really not enough to probe this in any great detail, and there is a sense of frustration just beneath the surface. ,> well, richard norton smith thank you for being here with us on american tv. >> you're welcome. >> coming up, president gerald ford in front of the house judiciary committee on his pardon of president nixon. >> the committee will be in order. the committee on criminal justice, the house committee on judiciary welcomes the president of the united states, gerald r lord. we are priests -- gerald r. ford. we appreciate his willingness to answer our questions in this inquiry. and also to except inquiries on the subcommittee and to carry out the response bill is assigned to it by the representatives. perhaps, the first documented appearance of a president of the united states before a committee or a subcommittee of the united states congress. no