mr. washburn can agree my only primary issue with option 4 ufbtd the violation against the city department it does little to encourage ability i think that often; right when there's a failure for transparent it misses you need an accountable person to respond to the findings of a violation against them so i'm not sure what good a will full violation against the city department in fact i'll be clear our response to this issue two all options 1, 2, 3 were under various crooks it's a violation against an individual someone would can be held accountable and provide we precede with our notice of obligation by issue won those are appropriate options options. >> i think it's impossible for the task force to weigh in informally not having had a changing chance to discuss it my initially reaction it seems reasonable i guess based on my experience over the years i can think of cases there was a clear violation but we couldn't come up with anyone to hold responsible you know something was awry the department or agency probably due to just lack of training or having policies in place or you know way b

mr. washburn can agree my only primary issue with option 4 ufbtd the violation against the city department it does little to encourage ability i think that often; right when there's a failure for transparent it misses you need an accountable person to respond to the findings of a violation against them so i'm not sure what good a will full violation against the city department in fact i'll be clear our response to this issue two all options 1, 2, 3 were under various crooks