mr. rose's report. >> okay mr. rose on dem. >> the recommendations total 258 in 2015-2016 and 191 plus in 2016-2017. >> the disagreements are page 1017 of the report we stated to reduce the over time budget by 291 and the over time job budget increase to account for higher over times to address the overtime the 2015-2016 budget includes 2 classes to bring up to 24 communication dispatchers those new hires will be offset by expected retirements and separation in 2015-2016 department is increase the temporary backfills the savings is 1 other 7 plus and the total recommended savings of 1015 plus we suggest you adjust the numbers with the surplus of 7 hundred plus the department increased the attrition savings to allow for increased hire. >> thank you, mr. rose colleagues any questions for mr. rose. >> ma'am, any response. >> one thing in the attrition savings this is a been recommended by the budget analyst is .77 percent i believe and from our calculations that means the second class this year instead of be able or be

mr. rose we're going to recess until 1:00 p.m. and we're going to give you that time to continue to discuss and come back and see if there's further agreement if not we can take action on various line items. >> item number 1 hearing on the budget updates from the mayor and budget legislative analyst and item number 2 appropriation ordinance and all estimated expenditures for for the department of the city and county of san francisco item number 3 annual salary ordinance in the annual budget appropriation ordinance for the fiscal years ending june june 30, 2015, and , and june 30, 2016,. >> we don't have anything for item number 1 today and i'll ask the following departments to come up and if you would come up together and one by one identify yourself on the microphone and confirm that you are in agreement with the budget and legislative analyst's report and we can move to mr. rose to give his quick report. please come on up. assessor recorder controller's office city attorney health service sy

kelly mr. rose, can we go to your report. >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee the total revised instructions in 2015-2016157420 and 2016-2017458 plus arguments the first recommendation the hundred and 64 thousand dollars plus we saved this principle budget analyst position it is unnecessary to fulfill the programs mission and one 18 single budget analyst and compliance officers and compliance officers officer two the program anticipates the abilities of the current instead of and for the $282,000 plus the contract experience it has 18 ftes and significant analytical capacities one 18 senior analysts and compliance officers and have you been that has vacancy positions filling those are vacancies will allow the program program so absorb the increase think about that supervisors you have 4 vacant positions if they fill the 4 vacant positions let's assume isn't that alone the justification for the notion on the last page place one new management assistant on reserve for the expansion of the relief program currently on hold the

sue okay mr. rose - mr. rose, can we go to your report on planning and dcyf the guys from planning want the clarification of non-general fund and general fund. >> and quickly as it relieves the rest of the department we'll go in the origin order but fire out of order the chief what is a family obligation that has to attend chief let's see do this i see how eager everyone is to be on the mike before the committee (laughter). >> >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee our revised numbers in 2015-2016469067 and we're also recommending the general fund of hundred and 83 plus and for 2016-2017 hundred and 24 thousand 169 that's the sheriff. >> on the planning department - 33 - >> our recommended recommendations are 28931989 and that's for 2015-2016 and for 2016-2017 it is $25,000 plus and on the department of children youth and families. >> mr. rose before you leave planning there was a question about whether or not it is general fund or non-general fund. >> sure. >> those positions were in long-range c

berry colleagues, any confesses. >> mr. rose. >> yes. mr. chairman an page 88 a recommended reductions to the promoted budget total 2 hundred plus thousands of that amount one time savings $81,000 ongoing will allow an increase of 5.1 percent in the 2015-2016 and our recommended budget total hundred and 92 plus in 2016-2017 of that one time savings are ongoing savings those reductions will allow a reduction or 1.7 percent we're still working with the department we'll report back to you next week. >> thank you, mr. rose we'll see you next monday. >> up in essence i see from our superior court. >> good afternoon supervisor farrell and supervisors michael court chief suhr u executive officer i want to thank you for your roles and being able to interact and kate and mr. rose and thank you to you and many others i'm sure you're aware of supervisors the only part of the courts budget it is opportunity by the city is the defense system a program that provides defense representation to i think detergent when the public defender can't defend and repr

chair the mr. rose has from the committee wishes to move forward with the money we'll load it into the financial system. >> okay. all right. >> ms. campbell. >> yes. i wanted to respond to the two recommendations that we disagree with our recommendations are on audit finding two weeks ago we released an audit on the fire departments planning processes and the strategic planning we stated we are not recommend new general fund position we have a discussion in the topic what we have recommended one position this is consistent with other fire departments that have some kind of support strategy planning process we want to point out there's a highly paid position within the fire department which we recommended their responsibility was live strategic planning and planning my understanding the depended agreed their strategic planning process should be included we stand by our remedies and the other recruitment the audit they needed to work within the existing resources they district attorney have an overall rec

. >> mr. rose our report. >> yes. mr. chair and members of the committee incidentally we recommend the proposal that you called mr. chairman for the record on page 86 of our report our recommended reductions in the proposed is hundred thousand reduction 2016 a one-time savings an increase of $16.6 million in the 2015-2016 budget and in addition, we include $2 million plus in a policy recommendations ongoing savings and 2016-2017 our recommendation include policy recommendations of $2 million plus all of which are owning savings my understanding the department enclosures were you our hundred million dollars recommend restriction in 2015-2016 and the balance they disagree are the policy recommendations not straight recommended kits pointed out to you for policy consideration. >> thank you very much mr. rose. >> supervisor yee. >> thank you mr. chairman excuse me. i forgot to tell you i had wanted out a new page 87 which explains the policy represents i want to remind the committee you have that. >> oh okay mr. rose you just

. >> thank you, mr. rose your report. >> complashg and members of the committee on page 4 six the recommendations to the reduction $206,000 plus in 2016 will hundred and 871 ongoing savings those reductions will still allow an increase of 6.5 or 8 percent in the department 2015-2016 budget we've recommend collins closings out the general fund inincumbrance with return of 51 thesis to the general fund and recommended reductions total 264 in 2015-2016 and hundred 80 thousand are ongoing savings or one time savings those reductions allows an increase of 3.7 percent and the 2016-2017 as i recommended the restrictions shown in detail on page 47 through 49 of the report. >> thank you very much mr. rose colleagues, any questions for mr. rose or ms. callahan or team can i have a motion to accept the budget pend public comment? >> so moved and motion any supervisor tang and seconded by supervisor mar we'll take that without objection. >> thank you very much thank you very much. >> all right. next up department of the

thank you, mr. rose supervisor tang. >> if i could ask the fire department to respond to the budget analyst planning positions their planned to have the existing staffing for the if i could respond to that. >> certainly we feel as does in previous audits did you i done by the budget analyst mravm mentioned the recent audit what has challenged, in fact, our admin staffing went down in 2002, the planning unit with 4 members and then in 2014 just a year and a half ago 3 people in the most recent audit we can do it win that's not possible we don't have the staffing we need the staffing to be able to plan and anticipate our growing population most of the fire departments in the country have more than two chiefs of department in their analysis we're the only department with two reports in 2002, it was spoken by the budget analyst they recommend property a direct report to the fire chief and the unit was $280,000 much more than strategic planning we want to do to be effective and anticipate what is coming down

wagner and mr. rose our report on the budget. >> yes. mr. chairman and members of the committee we commented on both items 4 and 4 item 4 we recommend you approve that and item 5 we consider that approval to be a policy matter for the board regarding the polyp recommendations on page 50 of the report our recommended reductions for the prold proposed budget are 4 hundred plus million dollars of the ongoing savings those reductions allow an increasing ever $500 million plus or 2 percent of the 2015-2016 budget our recommendations are recommended reductions to the proposed budget are $5 million plus in 2015-2016 of that amount some are ongoing and one time savings with the reductions will allow increase of $33 million plus or 1.6 in the 2015-2016 we've submitted working with the department and will report back next week to the committee. >> thank you, mr. rose colleagues, any last questions thanks for being here we'll see you on monday colleagues items 1 through 4 is there anyone from the public that wishes to speak on items 1 through 4 seeing

. >> mr. rose your report. >> mr. chairman and members of the committee and wanting breed on page 53 of our report first of all mr. chairman you called item 5 i committed we consider the approval for a policy matter we know that the revenue is incorporated with the balance of the freptsd budget. >> on the recommendations on page 53 our recommended reduction for the proposed budget one million dollars plus in 2015-2016 of that amount 5 hundred and 51271 are ongoing savings and another amount one time savings those are allow $10 million plus or 2 percent in the departments 2015-2016 budget our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 6 hundred accomplice of that amount the ongoing saved are one time saves those reductions will allow awning increase of $2 million plus or 8 10th. >> thank you, mr. rose any questions from mr. rose on the fire department budget. >> thank you, very much chief. >> would you like to talk about item 5 and yes, please and i'd like to ask our cfo who i didn't thank for all the hard wor

we'll see you next monday mr. rose and next up mayor's office. >> supervisor. >> on the planning item john gibner, deputy city attorney you can forward that to the july 14th rather than continuing to a further budget meeting. >> can i have a motion to resend. >> item number ten. >> item rescinded now to the july 14th board of supervisors. >> okay. we have a motion pie supervisor mar and seconded by supervisor tang we'll take that without objection. >> sorry real quick to the city attorney's office i neglected to say it maybe from the city attorney's office can you clarify that what that means for the public and those items will be exhausted. >> john gibner, deputy city attorney a few times today, i imagine ero over the next few days the department will agree with the budget analysts recommendations and they've 1086 noted that the committee agrees with those recommendations as well through a tentative motion essential that is just a note to the mayor's office to the controller's office and other staff just to make sure

mr. rose can we go to rourt on item 5 >> yes, on page of our report, this isn't the budget report recommendation, the separate report, the airport is increasing service payment by 1 [inaudible] from 39.6 million to 38.8 million and that is shown on page 2 of the report. do recommend you approve this legislation >> as when we have individual items that have legislation we will take public comment on the legislation itself so if it there is anyone that wishes we'll open up public comment on item 5 itself. any public comment? seeing none public comment is closed. supervisor tang >> thank, i would like to the make a motion to approve item 5 and send it forward to full board. >> we have a motion by supervisor tang. can we have a motion to paz this to the july 14, board meeting where we'll hear the entire package of budget items >> is there a second >> second by supervisor yee. madam clerk can you call items 12 and 13 together >> itedm 12 ordinance amending ordinance 146-14 by appropriating 2.2 mill

. >> mr. rose would it be appropriate to ask the occ to come up right now before you do the full police department i believe the folks are here. >> good afternoon supervisor farrell and members the budget & finance committee and i'm joyce hicks i thank you for the opportunity to address you i'd like to thank the mayor and his budget staff and harvey rose staff for working with me on the budget i'm continuing to be negotiate with mr. rose's staff with the senior investigator project not recommend by mr. rose we're norwalk over the start date for various positions office of complaints was created by the board of supervisors in 19982 we became staff and operational in 1983 we're in the jurisdiction of the police commission and independent of the san francisco police department the mission of the eject was to investigate civilian complaints and police misconduct and negligent of duty and to make policy recommendations on police practices i've been the director of the occ since 2007 hired on the heels o

mr. rose's staff with the senior investigator project not recommend by mr. rose we're norwalk over the start date for various positions office of complaints was created by the board of supervisors in 19982 we became staff and operational in 1983 we're in the jurisdiction of the police commission and independent of the san francisco police department the mission of the eject was to investigate civilian complaints and police misconduct and negligent of duty and to make policy recommendations on police practices i've been the director of the occ since 2007 hired on the heels of a audit report one of the finding was 16 cases per investigator is best practices. >> but in 2007 investigators caseloads ranged from 20 cases to 45 that's not the situation now but investigators cases loads are high as of today, the medium caseloads of after eject is 28 cases within the eject in 2014-2015 staffing was constrained by judgements and nutrition and longtime staff absence this current staff vacancies are two journey level investigators and one senior investigator the senior p

. >> colleagues, any question for the adult probation department mr. rose. >> mr. chairman and members of the committee on page 94 our recommended reductions total 7 hundred and 55 thousand dollars plus of that amount are ongoing savings hundred and 65 one time savings those rescues is still allow an increase or 8.7 percent in the departments fiscal year 2015-2016 and our recommended reduction total 667903 in 2016-2017 or ongoing savings as the department stated we're working with the department and report back next week. >> thank you very much mr. rose colleagues, any questions for the folks okay thanks last but not least our juvenile probation department. >> good morning, everyone. supervisors allen chief probation officer for the most part we'll to thank the mayors budget office in helping us to creativity this and our budget analyst mr. conrad who is very helpful and supportive in our efforts to craft a thoughtful budget and the shipyard and guidance of the probation commission that has been supportive in the leadership of suzy jones mission of our department i

mr. rosenfield . supervisor yee >> thank you for the presentation and all the good work you always do. i'm having trouble figuring out the project you are talking about. the new system. to me it isn't a new function, maybe it is a new function, i don't get it. it seems it is a system to support the functions that you do. at the same time you are king in 2 years 20 new people to do something that i don't understand. if this system is supposed to be replacing a system that is 30 years old i assume it is more efficient so i don't get why you need 20 more people to operate the system. maybe i don't understand the definition >> the cities financial system-this is a mainframe base system implemented in the urbly 1983's and last upgraded in 199 saevl. the vendor that provided the product no longer exists so it is no longer supported. that is effectively meant fl last decades or so we have frozen development work on the cities financial system so it serves a very narrow array of functional use in the

. >> mr. rose items 4 and six. >> we don't mr. chairman as please be advised the ringing of and use of cell phones, rosenfeld said this is to continue the budget we have no comments we have having a couple the recommendations for the deletion of the provision in section because is it allows the controllers from ocii staff services to salaries and benefits without the supervisors approval we don't believe that is needed and to deleted delete the proposals that allows the director of human resources to authorize the new progressions to provide services without the board of supervisors approval again not needed so except for the potential exceptions to the interim i'm sure you're aware of are new positions largely the mayor's office maybe recommending that we start on july 1st until august 1st and each of those positions is important for the fornicating annual budget process we recommend you approve both 0 jury room salary ordinances with the amendments we ask you accept. >> okay. mr. rosenfeld. >> i am in concurrence that was intend

mr. rose our report please. yes mr. chairman members of the committee as shown in table 3 on page 10 of the report the city experiences all 9 year options to renew and the consistencies the maximum oracle contract is $27 million plus and then on page 11 we note that the optional extension will not nooiftd i've not to exceed to be $23 million plus on the bottom of page 11 this controller's office looked like this was the point that supervisor mar references the controller's office allocated 210 percent the total 2 thousand possible points for the cost portion of the proposals table 6 the costs submitted by itself bidders is shown in table six the oracle bid $26 million plus was $10 million plus more than the $16 million plus for the second place bidders c g index the significant costs was attribute to the bid and the 17 thesis work hours in the outcome bid as compared to the c gi bid we state on page 12 of the report shown in table 6 the cost of $26 million plus were included in the proposed oracle contract after the bid