we have a socialist winning new hampshire or iowa. that is a believable. it is a frustration from all americans that this game is rigged against them. they focus way too much on corporate interest. that is why the xm bank has been such a big fight. i would argue, but for the work of the freedom house caucus -- that thing might have already been reauthorized. we are here two months passed before it was posted authorized. the question is it is an entirely in question to restart some thing and resurrect some thing. we are sensitive to that and a big way. we have been pushing on it. i think it is on both sides. they are tired of this game where the politicians and big government get close with the big corporations and the game gets rained against small business owners and families across the country. that is what our organization, the freedom caucus, is all about. host: three minutes. journalist: obamacare, replace and repeal. we have been hearing that from republicans for years. there have been some proposals overall, but overall, they have not gone behind on

so, i don't think he's going to do too well in new hampshire or iowa or anywhere else. okay.d. >> mr. trump, -- >> go ahead. >> how are you doing? thank you for coming. my question is -- we all know that the goop between the rich and poor is get can bigger and bigger and our american manufacturing is getting sent overseas with horrible trade deals how much do you plan to bring back american manufacturing job and would you repeal nafta and how do you fell about the new tpp. >> the new trade deal is -- and currency manipulation is a disaster and that answers that question. that deal is not the deal that should be made. i've not been a fan of and a half attempt you know about nafta better than anybody because your places have been stripped out of new england, and they've gone to mexico, all over the place. i have never been fan of nafta. we are going to bring our jobs back. we're going to have ford and other countries -- companies, instead of going down to mexico, and lots of other places. lots of other places. we'll have them built here. we'll give them the incentive they need

and all the key will do too well in new hampshire or iowa or anywhere else. >> mr. trump. my question we all know the gap between the rich and the port is getting bigger and manufacturing is sent overseas with trade deals. how you want to bring back american manufacturing jobs would you repeal nafta and how you feel with the dpp? trump: the new deal in what is hurting us is currency manipulation and that answers that question. [applause][n that is not the deal to be made. i have not been a fan of nafta you know, about that better than anybody your place is are stripped out of new england to mexico and other places i have never been a fan of nafta. we will bring jobs back to have forged and other companies instead of going to mexico and other places places, lots of other places, we will have them built here and give them the incentive that they needed to build here. >> i am a volunteer with the conservation voters and what is your plan to reduce pollution that drives climate change to endanger public health? trump: that is an interesting question. let me ask you. take it ea

>> george, when i'm in new hampshire or iowa or south carolina, wherever i go, we're getting very big crowds now in new hampshire on a comparative basis. i think you listen to what people want. my father, a caring male, i have come from a blue-collar community as a boy if the wind blew the wrong way you have known me a long time and you know that most of my change agent. agent. but they also want to make sure that whoever they select is somebody that can move the country in the right direction. acknowledge what they're concerned about, appreciate the syria, we live in america, thank and we can tackle these things. we can do it. i think at the end of the day this all settles down. >> you mentioned syria, let me ask you about that refugee crisis so heartbreaking, many now calling for the united states to take in more of those refugees, should they? >> well, i think we have a responsibility here, but i think this fundamentally falls on europe. and as tragic as this event is, and it is, maybe this is an opportunity for the united states and the western world to work together to solve what

so i don't think he'll do too well in new hampshire or iowa or anywhere else. okay. go ahead. how you doing? thanks for coming. the estion is, we all know gap between the rich and poor in this country is bigger and bigger and american manufacturing is getting sent overseas with all of these horrible trade deals. how do you plan on bringing back american manufacturing jobs and would you repeal nafta? how do you feel about the ccp deal? donald trump: the new trade deal is a terrible deal and one big thing hurting us is currency manipulation. it is a disaster. that answers that question. that is not the deal that should be made. you know about nafta better than anybody because your places have been stripped out of all of new england. you know what's happened. they've gone to mexico, all over the place. i am not and never have been a fan of nafta. we are going to bring our jobs back. we'll have ford and the other companies instead of going down to mexico and a lots of other places we'll have them build here. we'll give them the incentive they need to build here. go ahead. >> hi, m

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iowa. you can lose in new hampshire or lose iowa and win new hampshire or do so very well there that it's,ou know, expectations game it's a win. she does probably have the resources to wage a long campaign. and, if joe biden gets in of course, that's the wildcard in the deck, jenna, because we don't know how much sanders support would go to him and how much clinton support would go to him. jenna: you think democrats would like to fall in love with joe? >> i think a lot of them are very fond of joe biden. he has been around a long time and has certain --joe biden in person is a person that you likeable and impossible to not find him a likeable guy. he could be someone counted to carry on at least in the eyes of the democrats policies of barack obama. so he would have real appeal. the question is, who does he hurt and who does he help? jenna: that is the big question, everyone meaning the pundits saying labor day will be the decision day for joe biden. we're still waiting for that decision. i want to ask you about this comment from a leader in the dnc, the vice chairman of the dnc in the "wa

new hampshire and iowa, those are taylor made -- i don't think anybody expected bernie sanders to be doing this well. now there's a real chance he could beat hillary clinton in either new hampshire or yane. -- iowa. south go to -- in carolina, i -- you need to have support of african-americans mplingt you need to win his panic supporters. western person -- bernie sanders is starting to reach out to those people. hillary has had an advantage. joe biden would have an advantage over bernie sanders. if sanders won yay and new hampshire, that would be the story. i would certainly not rule him out in the upcoming primaries and caucuses. he's planning -- they have a game plan, the sanders campaign, to focus on the caucus states like colorado, states with a college age population. they're not just planning for new hampshire and iowa. when you look at the makeup of the democratic electorate, it's harder for sanders to compete. >> kimberly is waiting, washington, patriotism, kimberly, good morning. >> goveraget i am doing getting a little tired of hearing about donald trump being some kind of celebrity and all that stuff. did they forget that ronald reagan was a movie star and he was just fi

you wrote the only reliable formula for success has been to win the iowa caucus, new hampshire primary ord then ride a wave of momentum into the large states that follow. i got to ask you to explain for people, santorum has been to nearly all the 99 counties in iowa. low single digits. governor christie has moved to new hampshire, low single digits. you got donald trump flying in and out for rallies just for that afternoon and he's out and he's ahead of all of them. >> right. >> explain. >> we keep waiting for the year where all of the old rules no longer apply and this might be that year. but the fact is that we've had the modern primary system since 1972 and over that period the republicans have never nominated anyone in a contested race who didn't win either iowa or new hampshire one of the first two states and the democrats have only twice nominated someone who did not win iowa and new hampshire and one of them was bill clinton in 1992 in a year where other candidates wrote off iowa. what that tells you is that once this starts, once people actually vote, the dynamic can change very q

when it comes down to actually voting, whether it's in a caucus in iowa or a primary in new hampshirehe road, i think americans take voigting f president pretty seriously. >> i'm going to make a point that all those you named, they were all elected officials. they weren't technically outsiders. listen to the crowd yesterday in new hampshire. they were demanding more debates. >> trump was at it again. one of his supporters in the audience called president obama a muslim. my friends, what's more important, drawing a contrast with republicans or arguing about debates? let's focus on our mission and the task at hand. >> howard, wouldn't the democrats help elevate the discourse by holding more debates? why limit the number? don't they deserve to hear from more candidates more prominently? the gop is allowing that. >> i would say to the detriment of the gop. let me explain this quickly. i was the one that put in the six-debate limit to protect the candidates so you wouldn't have the spectacle we saw in 2012 and in 2016 with 11 people on the stage each making a bigger fool of themselves. >>

mark: nowhere in south carolina, new hampshire, or nevada. in iowa, that is tough.ohn: i think the donors are saying bye-bye. mark: coming up, a former romney adviser and political strategist. we will borrow his brain to talk about his new book. is about football and his dad. and more about the republican party, the debate, and where the nomination fight stands. all that after this word from our sponsors. ♪ ♪ mark: our guest tonight is a veteran republican strategist. he advised many republicans to run for office that one, some have lost. he is also the author of this book, "the last season," about college football. we will talk about the book in in the next segment, but for now are taking advantage of your being here to talk about the republican nomination. you worked for george w. bush. his brother jeb is running. let's look at jeb's big moments from last night's debate. mr. bush: you know what? as it relates to my brother, there is one thing i know for sure -- he kept us safe. [applause] i don't know if your member, donald. -- you remember, donald. you remember t

give me the size of the political earthquake if hillary clinton loses iowa or new hampshire to bernie sanders? they are trying to say they can lose iowa or new hampshire and be okay but i don't know if they understand the earthquake that would cause if that happens. >> if she were to lose iowa and new hampshire it certainly puts a lot of wind behind sanders but this is problematic. iowa and new hampshire are really big deals and obama's win in 2008 primary season was a big go when he won iowa and lost in new hampshire. but this is bernie's problemnd they get this. after you get passed the first couple of states, and this is what obama put the nomination away, most people don't think about it but this is when he put the nomination away. in south carolina, for a while we were competing with hillary for minority vote big time and for a while she was ahead. it it wasn't iowa that was huge saying he won iowa so black people were willing to vote for him. that is bullshit. white people in iowa said he was okay so they voted. he worked very rd. wh south carolina happened, we broke down the ga

give me the size of the political earthquake if hillary clinton loses iowa or new hampshire to bernie sanders? they are trying to say they can lose iowa or new hampshire and be okay but i don't know if they understand the earthquake that would cause if that happens. >> if she were to lose iowa and new hampshire it certainly puts a lot of wind behind sanders but this is problematic. iowa and new hampshire are really big deals and obama's win in 2008 primary season was a big go when he won iowa and lost in new hampshire. but this is bernie's problem and they get this. after you get passed the first couple of states, and this is what obama put the nomination away, most people don't think about it but this is when he put the nomination away. in south carolina, for a while we were competing with hillary for minority vote big time and for a while she was ahead. it it wasn't iowa that was huge saying he won iowa so black people were willing to vote for him. that is bullshit. white people in iowa said he was okay so they voted. he worked very hard. when south carolina happened, we broke down

hampshire, she's at 6%. in iowa, she's at 5%. basically, if you're not ben carson ortrump, you're basically tied in iowa and new hampshire. then there's the other folks in this race that everyone's going to be watching because they were talked about before as people who were front-runners, could be front-runn front-runners, rising stars. i'm thinking specifically about governor chris christie. if donald trump were not in the race, chris christie, remember, he was the tell-it-like-it-is candidate, the one who would tell people exactly what he'd think, whether it was politics or not, and usually impolitic. chris christie's standings in the real clear politics averages, 1.5%. he doesn't even rank in the "new york times" poll. he's not even in there in the new hampshire poll or the iowa poll. someone else who actually busted out of the gate in the last debate, ohio governor john kasich did very well in a lot of people's stiestimations. we'll see how he does this go 'round. he's at 2.5% in the real clear politics averages. scott walker, as we said, he's collapsed. he was s

so i don't think he's going to do too well in new hampshire or iowa or anywhere else. go ahead. >> mr. trump. [inaudible conversations] >> okay. go ahead. you go first. >> how you doing, mr. trump? thanks for coming. my question is we all know the gap between the rich and poor in this country is getting bigger and bigger, and our american manufacturing is getting sent overseas with all these horrible trade deals. how do you plan on bringing back american manufacturing jobs, and would you repeal nafta, and how do you feel about the tpp deal? >> okay. your new trade deal with a terrible deal, and one of the big things that is hurting us is currency manipulation. it is a disaster, and that answers that question. [applause] that deal is not the deal that should be made. i've not been a fan of nafta. you know about nafta better than anybody, because your places have been stripped out of all of new england. and you know what's happened, they've gone to mexico, they've gone all over the place. but you -- i am not and i have never been a fan of nafta. we are going to bring our

it's a small sampling in iowa and new hampshire. there's a plus orinus margin of -- it's within the margin of error. it seems like a big percentage. the margin of error is 5%. i think there are a lot of polls. there are going to be a lot of polls. >> but trending. here is the legitimate issue you have to deal with if you are in the campaign. she does not have the passion behind her right now among democrats. many thought she was the presumptive favorite. bernie sanders has that mantle of the heart of the party in the current state of play. how does she take that from him without going after sanders? >> i would dispute the premise a little bit. there are a lot of people, including myself that are excited and passionate about hillary clinton. there are a lot of women voters. >> crowds feeling the burn. >> i think sanders raises a lot of important issues. i think his issues here he is raising are exciting for the party. they play well in new hampshire and in iowa. i think once we get out of new hampshire and iowa, what other states could he win other th

if you lose one or both of iowa or new hampshire, that can be devastating or at least deeply troublingt is the reason why she did that interview with lena did you dunham girl py racy show on hbo is it reaches female millennials as you noted there is a quinnipiac poll this week showing among white men hillary clinton's unfavorability rating is 74%. she is simply not going to turn that around. so she needs a massive turnout from women. both in the primaries and in the general if she gets the nomination. if she is going to win. >> ed, that same quinnipiac poll, head to head she loses to bush, carson, and fiorina, but ekes out a win with trump ed, also talk to us today some additional emails were released, were discovered. hundreds we hadn't heard about before and specifically pointing toward ben benghazi. tell us about it? >> state department has informed republican trey gowdy select committee there in the house that they found some new emails involving libya, involving benghazi and the terror attacks. we have not seen the content. trey gowdy has not seen the content yet. all he knows is

south carolina, in my view, is as important as iowa or new hampshire. ogies to iowa and new hampshire. you don't miss south carolina. jenna: it's interesting. we'll see what happens with perry and for a few other of the republican candidates that have been polling lower. of course, we have another debate next week, so anything can happen. for joe biden or anyone new that is still considering getting into the race, larry, what is the realistic timeline for them? >> the realistic timeline was six months ago. [laughter] that's the truth. jenna: really? >> that's another factor whether biden is considering it or not, it's another big factor in that decision that he has to make. can he even do it organizationally and financially? jenna: do you think he can, larry? >> look at hillary. she's dropping like a rock, jenna, so possibly that's going to tip him into the race. but it's not easy. he's going to have to get everyone he's ever met involved very quickly if he's going to get on all these ballots. jenna: what do you think about that, larry? do you think he c

him no matter what aid is talking to him no matter what advisor is coming to see him about iowa or new hampshirehe lives now in a frame of mind where a cloud ,ormation a song on the radio something that he sees in the car driving past is going to remind him of the boise lost. cargot know given the that he would have the mental energy or the physical energy to conduct a presidential campaign. poll and it the think 14% is pretty good if you're not even announced, on the other hand, it's not overwhelming. i know some people around and keep saying there's an opening for you. i too like the vice president a lot, but i don't see a drum be either within the party regulars normal voters for him to get in. that's not thing he couldn't run , but there's not a drumbeat for him. weak's no doubt clinton is , she is stumbling around right now. but there's no drumbeat and you also have the thing about the emotional fuel. it seems to me he is more likely not to run. guest: you have far more expertise in this area than i do, but if clinton lost both iowa and new hampshire to bernie sanders, there is opening for

hampshire operation. what they are focused on his -- is south carolina. and they are focused on a scenario that looks like bernie sanders beats hillary clinton in iowa or newampshire both. he wounds her sufficiently and those first two contest. then you come to south carolina and biden is waiting. a wounded clinton and a sanders who is not cut out or well-suited to south carolina, they roll down -- and biden is the waiting alternative. a scenario where she lost or was severely wounded in the first three contests now you have -- really have a path for joe biden to win the nomination. but there is a bank shot quality. if she wins iowa, the whole thing is out of the window. charlie: what has happened to hillary clinton? mark: she chose to get into the race as the e-mail scandal was mushrooming. she could have put things off and try to deal with the scandal in a more effective way. that has dogged her. even though the polls are kind of mixed on whether voters think that should be an issue, she has got herself so yoked up in that and raising questions about her electability, her authenticity, her truthfulness and the two other things that are happening concurre

southern primaries, you have to wonder what might the effect be if she were to lose iowa and new hampshire. if sanders or joe biden were to win iowa or new hampshire they would have momentum going into south carolina that hillary clinton might not have. he. heather: we didn't get to talk about the biden factor. he's ahead of hillary clinton in many poms and he hasn't declared that he will run. >> he does well in one to one, head-to-head matchups. but this is a long primary process that involves a lot of organization on the ground and a lot of fundraising and the vice president is way behind on that. it's early september. if the vice president is going to move, this is the time to do it. thank you so much, byron york for joining us. we appreciate it. gregg: austria tightening its border saying it will restore various restrictions on refugees that have been eased. tens of thousands trying to escape war and terror in the middle east. >> from the death and the war and everything in our country. >> we are busing people out now. the volunteers who are just ordinary people from hungary and around the world are

but the thing is, he needs to win iowa or new hampshire is what he needs to do and he's not in a strong position in either one. the bush campaign talks about how you go on, there is south carolina, nevada, florida, the primaries, all of these other races, but republican candidates for president come from either the winner of iowa or new hampshire, very unusual to lose both and go on. so i think you'll eventually see jeb bush putting a lot of energy into those early stakes. >> what do you think the policy around jeb bush is, that is mostly sort of, you know, thought about had he talks, still waiting for grand lair ty and specifics on policy from all of the candidates, what do you think we think about when you think about jeb bush in terms of what he's strongest on. >> well, he would say he's already rolled out an attack plan, already made his positions clear on a number of things. i think the problem with bush is that he's just not really excited very many people. he's not connected with people. he was on the stephen colbert show earlier and he was asked about the exclamation point at th

if she was -- if she loses iowa or new hampshire it puts a lot behind sanders. iowa and new hampshire a big deals. obama's when in 2008, the primary season, they really lost it. but this is bernie's problem , and they get this. after you get past the 1st couple, and this is when obama put the nomination away, south carolina and for a while there we were competing with hillary for the minority vote big time. was not really iowa that people say she one, he won iowa. that is complete bs. said he was okay. he worked very hard. we broke down the gate. it was a floodgate. wasn't competing anymore. what happens? the democratic primary. you can't win north carolina, alabama, louisiana , virginia. to the heart of the south, the bible belt. where we ran across, the truth of the matter is the nomination would basically be over. >> and that is exactly what led him to do that. >> but going back, what is the level of panic. it becomes -- suddenly. if she loses in new hampshire and iowa, think your going to see, it will be a small case. >> i think you will have people pushing.

iowa and new hampshire. sanders playing very well in iowa and new hampshire. among iowa caucus voters. clinton, the latest polls, is dead even or sanders is ahead. sanders tells wolf blitzer even he is shocked at the speed of his surge. >> yes. i'm stunned. look, we have a message that i believe from day one was going to resonate with the american people. did i think they would resonate as quickly as they have? the answer is no. >> you usually hear a politician stay i'm stunned that people are liking me. >> that is why they like him so much. there are thousands of people. they go crazy because he is that frank. >> i can't believe i'm doing this well? >>> hillary clinton is not trading fire on bernie sanders, but on the republicans that she could face in the general election if she gets there, she blasted scott walker on his home turf at a speech at the university of wisconsin milwaukee. >> we hear from candidates on the other side about turning back the clock on women's rights. there is one particular candidate who just seems to delight in insulting women every chance he gets. i have to say if he emerges, i would love to debate

judging by the polls there was an iowa poll that i think was put up and we -- a new hampshire poll that shows her trailing. basically dead even or slightly behind in iowa and ten points or so behind in new hampshire. she has to reset, harris. she needs to get a message out about why she should be president, what she wants to do and what is her unique argument for herself because we saw in britain a left wing socialist was elected as the leaders of the labor party. what happens in britain is oftentimes a harbinger of what happens here. bottom line as i like to say bernie sanders is moving and right now he's got all the momentum, harris. >> pat, i want to go to you. why is bernie sanders resonating or is it that hillary clinton is not. >> it's both of those. the "post" poll which is a heavily biassed democratic poll if they are showing three points trump is ahead. i'll guarantee you that. let me say also what's happening with the movement to sanders is pretty constant every where you look at polls. he's up near 20% in south carolina. in the state -- he was here yesterday in south carolina where i am. hillary gets worse and worse b

on the democratic side, if bernie sanders wins iowa -- and right now he's trailing clinton by five or six points in iowa -- if he wants new hampshirewhat kind of momentum does he taken? guest: i think you hillary -- as ais a presumptive presumptive front-runner cannot let that happen. i think the republican side now is a little different. experienceney chastens me on the momentum part. he wanted 15 of the first five states. won 3.5 of thehe first five states. it was a different field. this is a much more talented field in 2016. mark: is there anything out there except his own personal situation that you see in the endorsements, media coverage that if you were joe biden would fit her you from running -- deter you from running? guest: there are significant who wouldto anybody get in this race. money, organizations, endorsements. obviously, hillary clinton's campaign run by some of the best people in the democratic party and some really talented people -- she's got a great campaign. that would be a huge obstacle. for him, it's personal. john: thank you. when we come back, we assess the new host of the daily show. ♪ >> twice and they g

the strongest loo -- >> even if you don't win iowa or new hampshire, you're still going on, you -- >> i have -- >> you have to do second or third. >> i think we're positioned where we can win in iowa, we can minimum in new hampshire and south carolina. the we will do well in all three. i think we'll do well in nevada. but then ten days after south carolina, is super tuesday, the primary, all southern states, evangelical states, conservative states and we're extraordinarily -- >> south carolina could be a strong said for you? >> south carolina -- >> florida, maybe, that's a bush rubio battle. >> florida -- you look at -- >> that's a winner take all state. >> it us but march s-h-h-h 1. you have georgia, alabama, tennessee, arkansas, oklahoma -- >> you can get to cleveland and we don't have a republican nominee because 0 still enough of you in the race, even with rick perry out, conceivably today scott walker. >> possible but unlikely in this race they're there are basically two lanes. an establishment lane and a conservative lane. part of the recent i'm so encouraged and we're seeing so

iowa at 22%, third in new hampshire at 11%. and second place behind donald trump overall in the latest national poll. >> it is something about america. >> yet the unconventional candidate is not in iowa orgop contest state but the liberal bastion of sfranl. >> i'm not going to be a traditional politician. >> meanwhile, jeb bush who ended the summer slipping in the polls is starting to spend the big dollars he raised to try to climb back up. this first bush television ad pictures him as an outsider but one with a record. >> if you want more d.c. politicians or more self-promoters, you have options. i'm offering something different. leadership, ideas and a proven conservative record. >> in an effort to show his personality and capture a large audience, bush will appear tonight stephen colbert's first late show after taking over for letterman. even as donald trump is out with another instagram video mocking bush as low energy. >> jeb, for all your sleeping needs. >> in response to that, trump recycled part of an ad. >> hillary has always surrounded herself with very good people. >> as for that trump, questions like questioning john mccain's status, he said in a new biography i always felt

the unconventional candidate is not in iowa, new hampshire or any gop contest state. the liberal bastian of san francisco. jeb bush who ended the summer is starting to spend some of the big dollars he raised to try to climb back up with republican voters right now, yearning for new blood. nonpoliticians like carson and trump. >> this first television ad pitches him as one with a record. >> you have options, i'm offering something different, leadership, ideas, and a proven conservative record. >> in an effort to show his personality, and capture a large audience, bush will appear tonight on stephen colbert's first late show after taking over for david letterman, even as donald trump is out with another instagram video mocking bush as low energy. >> jeb, for all your sleeping needs. >> the man who took the top spot, he says in a new biography, he always felt that i was in the military, according to the new york times, because he was sent to military school for behavioral problems. that despite never serving in the military, and draft deferments from vietnam. he was on t

you will do well in iowa or win new hampshire, do well there, you'll be known. bill, i'm building out my national campaign. i'm hiring staff in south carolina, in michigan, iowa. we're raising money around the country. just be patient. i've only been in since july 21st. i love people in nebraska but it doesn't matter what they think about me today. it matters the impression i make early on. >> what grade would you give yourself? >> the grading will be by the american people. voters are not interested in back and forth, school yard insults that a lot of the debate focused on. they're interested in substance. there is a difference in the records that on this stage, there were an awful lot of what i call campaign conservatives. people who talk a good game but haven't walked the walk. people are looking for a consistent conservative. someone the same yesterday, today, tomorrow. i think in this debate, people were able to see a stark difference between my record and the record of the other candidates. whether on amnesty, they supported it. i've opposed it. whether on

he iowa outsider guy or new hampshire insider guy? >> right. mr. gerson, the last word. >> the question here is whether the establishment is going to work. both bush and clinton are taking the establishment back, you build your organization, your structure, you have money, you do all these things. it's usually been a good bet. except in 1964 and 1972. the question was, is this year different. will the establishment bet work? >> dickerson: all right. michael gerson gets the last word. thanks to all of you. we'll be right back. >> dickerson: the hope is come to town and washington is going to come to a halt. the streets will close and crowds will greet i am everywhere he goes. he is going to interrupt the daily flow of thing, at least logistically. politics is not likely to be" ripped, though. the pope will address a joint session of congress on thursday. one member is boycotting because he disagrees with the position on climate change. those wishing to defund planned parenthood will take comfort from the pope's message which has no room for abortion

>> host: when obama 1st announced his numbers were very low at some point where it was iowa or four new hampshire the black community embraced him. what do you attribute that to? starting out low-end and the phenomenal embrace. >> at the way you have when you look at the history of black politicization, the african-american vote is very pragmatic. resource will flow to our community, the people who by and large are hurting. have never gone on to the fantasy fun. they did not support chisholm by and large. when jesse jackson runs and 84 he had the support of the black establishment. a fantasy run by this young creature who sees himself as a cane. he runs and 88 and it was more of movement. this is exciting. the majority saw that is a wonderful training for the future. come up a little bit more in politics. we need to make sure a democrat is in the white house. will go hillary. not just the leadership of the base of the party. but when this young black senator wins iowa the way to stay in the country, it was almost like a lipless which. not a fantasy but a practical possibility. but on the night he

the normal way a candidate goes up in the polls is they spend a lot of time in iowa or new hampshiret carson is not going that. he is going to california. not spendi ining a lot of time the early states. they love the carson personal story, the idea of very poor to being one of the best doctors in the country and through hard work and frames his story. that's the main part of the appeal is that personal narrative. >> he has a very compelling all-american story that a lot of people are inspired by. not donald trump so much, though. he briefly talked about ben carson last night in dallas. take a look. >> i like carly. and i like ben. and i like many of the people that i'm running against. i mean, many of these people are terrific people. but nobody's going to be able to do the job that i'm going to do. they won't. >> i like the people and not inspired what they can do as leaders but as we look at this, perry, is carson the anti-trump specifically in terms of tone and style for republicans? >> he is. i mean, the terms of carson does very little attacking the other candidates. you watch

iowa, do they see this a protest vote. or do people you talk to in iowa, new hampshire. feel like he could get the nomination?at what voters are doing in the two early states right now is they're kind of dating bernie sanders a little bit. they're not sure they want to marry him yet. it's not that they deon't like hillary clinton. 77% favorability. he has favorability at 73%. so, they're taking a look at some one new. and they like what they see. but here's something also to keep in mind. 2/3 of the democrats in those early states, believe that hillary clinton could actually win a general election. democrats want to win. they don't necessarily feel the same way about bernie sanders. you are going to have to see how this deaf ups. they want to nominate a candida candidate. they think can beat the republicans. >> how big a prb loblem. bernie sanders, identified as a socialist. if he gets hillary clinton's thunder. would she ever use that against him. >> you just asked what potentially could become the, the, the, underline it again and write it out. defining question. bernie sanders is a friend the we have no in

i do not think he is going to do too well in new hampshire for iowa or anywhere else. go ahead. , over here, donald. donald trump: you go first. >> how are you doing? thanks for coming. we all know the gap between the rich and poor in this country is getting bigger and our american manufacturing is getting overseas with these horrible trade deals. how do you plan on bringing back american trade jobs and would you repeal nasa and how would you do with the tpp deal? donald trump: what is hurting us is currency manipulation. that is answering that question. that deal is not the deal that should be made. i've not been a fan of nafta. your places happened stripped out of all new england. you know what has happened. they gone to mexico and all of the place. i have not and i've never been a fan of nafta. we are to bring our jobs back. we're going to have ford and these other companies -- instead of going down to mexico and lots of other places, lots of other places, we're going to have them built here. we're going to give the incentive the need to build to could go ahead, dar

our goal has to bed to get those issues on individuals issues. >> endorsing before iowa or new hampshire? >> probably not. probably -- no matter how i say this -- i never can get it right. if i say it is conceivable, the headline will say something different. if it is conceivable -- it is conceivable that it could happen. i would say it is not likely. although conceivable. >> we will go next to michael rose from bloomberg, any whiskey from the globe. -- andy wind ski -- >> canyou talk about labor law reform -- you mentioned -- or use the word archaic fairy -- several times a day. i was wondering if you could talk about in an ideal world how would you like to see labor law changed and are there any prospects for any of that happening, assuming we still have a republican congress or how do you see the fight for that going forward? >> i say archaic for a reason. they were written in 1949. is anybody think the economy is the same as 1949? yeah. if you look at any international agency that lists workers rights, you can see how low we scored because our laws are very bad. bernie sanders is tal

debate, is your sense there is a framework, there's a ground game in place in places like iowa or new hampshire for her? >> she's working on building it. if you look at her campaign so far, where she's had momentum is on the ground. she does not have a large operation. what she has is a super pac well funded. that has propelled her forward. now it's time for her to balance out the hard dollars in the actual campaign with that super pac money. trump does have a ground game in iowa. fiorina is trying to catch up at this point. >> when you were running, you didn't have this weird sort of super pac campaign divide. >> right. >> one of the things, one of the lessons i think we learned from scott walker yesterday is super pac is not enough. you've still got to have a hard money campaign operating and functional that pays the bills. >> the same with rick perry, two legitimate candidates who with significant. >> tons of super pac dollars. >> and tons of dollars. they couldn't raise money on their own. i think they're both casualties of the donald trump boom. i don't think we've seen the last casualties

now you say at some point whether it was iowa or four new hampshire the black community embraced him. what do you attribute that to? starting out so low-end and the phenomenal embrace. >> i think what you have, the african-american vote is very pragmatic. it is aspirational to a certain degree.a certain degree. which of these candidates is going to ensure that these forces are going to flow to our committee who by and large are hurting. and so the african-american community has ever gone on fantastic -- fantastic runs. that was seen as her fantasy , not something that was practical. so particularly with political leaders. jesse jackson runs and did not have support of the black establishment. they were focused on winning the election. he runs and 88, and more of the black establishment, still not seen as a pragmatic figure. but more alike this is exciting. the establishment had to pay attention to him. the barack obama ran the majority of the black establishment saw that is a wonderful leader for the future, maybe someone who could come with more politics, right now we need to win thi