we have mentioned greg walden a couple of times, republican from new york, chairman for the subcommittee on communications and technology. as the top democrat on that committee, how closely do you work with him? what is your relationship like? rep. eshoo: i think we have a good relationship. it becomes tense at times when we don't agree with each other. but we have a mutual regard for one another, we like each other. a relationship is never going to be a good one unless you work at it. take a person for granted or assume what they are thinking. the more you chat, the better you know an individual in life, things. to produce i think we have a wonderful relationship. i have a lot of respect for g and i like him. we disagree, but we agree. it's a healthy relationship. we have been able to be productive. if you look at the work product of the subcommittee, which i always want to get more done, but i think that speaks for itself. peter: before we go on to another issue, i want to bring back something you also mentioned, unlicensed bandwidth. do you think of the spectrum auction scheduled for

the level of pressure put on him is it has not allowed some of the other competent people like greg waldenr mac thornberry were john kline from minnesota, any of these people who would be competent speakers, to be talked about. there are other people and could do this job. i agree paul would be the best. people see this as a moment of total chaos in the republican party with rainer stepping down, mccarthy stepping down. no clear speaker to be. is this bad for the republican party? make the case this is not all bad for the republican party. in: well, you usually have some chaos before you create something good. i don't necessarily protect this out for the next year or so and say it is all bad. i do think what is happening in the presidential race and in the house republican conference, although they are different phenomena, are reflective of the fact the electorate as a whole and particularly the center-right electorate does not know what it wants right now. it is unhappy with the direction of the country. it is unhappy with the leadership they have had, but they don't know exactly what the

include congressman lynn west moreland of georgia, john klein of the great state of minnesota and greg walden of oregon. but much of the attention is focused squarely on that guy, house ways and means committee chairman paul ryan. the 2012 vice presidential nominee issued a statement within minutes of mccarthy's decision saying he's grateful, but reaffirming, quote, i will not be a candidate. but the pressure has been relentless, with speaker boehner reportedly phoning him twice yesterday trying to convince him. and congressman trey gowdy telling "the new york times." quote, i have spent more time trying to talk him into running than i did my wife into marrying me. 26 years later, she's still with me. i'm just asking paul for 14 months. for his party, ryan remained tight-lipped last night, chased by a pack of reporters leaving his capitol hill office. but there are signs he's considering it. late yesterday afternoon, ryan canceled his fund-raisers for the next 48 hours. the reaction is also coming in from republicans on the campaign trail. donald trump is actually taking credit for ending mcc

and greg walden is more of a centrist. the freedom conference really respects paul ryan.rue fiscal conservative. he may be one of the only profiles that could rise to the top. he doesn't want to do it. he'd rather stay the head of ways and means committee, but he's sometimes susceptible to calls to serve his country. he's done that before when he ran for vp and he has had national experiences running not just for the vice presidency, but also whipping his budget through congress. in my view, he's the best candidate to really set the table for 2016. >> congressman, a reporter asked in the brief statements that they gave today. they said did these benghazi comments, the comments about the select committee hurting the poll numbers, did they play into this decision. e he said that wasn't helpful. i could have said it better. that's part of the decision as well. was that the demise of this run? >> i think it was one factor in the demise of the run. there is a real difference of opinion in one of the larger coalitions in the house of representatives. at least the republicans in

knives between her fingers and keeps calling herself "lady wolverine." [ light laughter ] at 8:06, greg walden brings out some cocaine, realizes he misread the room, and puts it away. [ laughter ] finally, at 8:07, john boehner walks in and says, "sorry, i forgot my keys. whoa, guys, i was only gone for a few minutes." [ cheers and applause ] figure it out. >> steve: he misread the room. >> jimmy: he misread the room. [ laughter ] i misread the room, my bad. >> steve: he put it away. >> jimmy: the other big political story is that next week, democratic candidates hillary clinton, bernie sanders, martin o'malley, lincoln chafee and jim webb will have their first debate in las vegas. yeah. a very calculating woman, a a weird old guy, and three dudes you'll never see again. so, basically, every poker table in vegas. [ laughter and applause ] you know what i'm saying? they should be used to it. and bernie sanders actually said he doesn't want to do any practice debates before the first real democratic debate next week. his aides told him that without preparation, he wont be able to offer quick reb

there's also talk by the congressional committee chairman greg walden is going to step dennis and trim speaker until republicans can figure this out which suggests weeks to months without an actual leader. >> host: we heard from kevin mccarthy as he spoke to reporters. he was asked about his interview last week on the "fox news" channel by sean hannity and then he made the announcement yesterday at the freedom caucus endorsing daniel webster so how much of this was self-inflicted by congressman mccarthy and how much of it was due to outside forces saying he is not the person? >> guest: if i had to put percentages to this i would say his comments about the benghazi select committee investigating hillary clinton was like 20, maybe at most 30% attributable to this. it didn't help mccarthy when he needed to rise as speaker so some of the dissension among his party but i don't think it's seriously hurt his chances. i think more what we are dealing with is the fundamental division really within the republican party. that not boehner and clearly not mccarthy could impose. >> host: is that a l

there is also talked the national republican congressional committee chairman greg walden is going to step in as interim speaker until republicans can figure this out, which suggests weeks or months without an actual leader. we heard from kevin mccarthy today, he was asked about his interview last week on a fox news channel. and then you had the announcement yesterday at the freedom caucus, and/or thing daniel webster. how much of this was self-inflicted by congressman mccarthy and how much was outside forces saying he is not the person? amber: if i had to put percentages to this, i would say his comments about the benghazi select committee investigating at most 30%ton was attributable to this. it certainly did not help when he needed to rise as speaker. some of the dissension among his party. but i don't think it seriously hurt his chances. i think what we are dealing with is a fundamental division within not johnlican party, boehner and not mccarthy could close. host: mccarthy says he would stay on -- weiner says he will stay on as leader, but is that a long-term commitment? >> it's

. >> greg walden. >> it's a pretty broad portfolio. >> going back to mr. roget i was just wondering how was nicole lapan warren buffett multi-million dollar wire fraud going where there was a big loss in london? >> let's stay on topic. >> journalists it on the wire >> not only fruitless but counterproductive. >> this brings up the question of education. the getting teachers trained to teach science and math so that people can build these businesses themselves. it is a key component but that does not seem to be enough federal money for teacher training. >> part of it, if you are a nontraditional student, you cannot just drop anything and sit in the classroom for two years. that is where competency-based learning is critical because by leveraging the power and the access of technology, it would allow you to do a number of things. they would accredit innovative programs that allow you to get credit for what you have already learned. iflearned. if you have 20 years of work experience, that is worth something and should be giving college equivalent credit. what