ralph nader: what year was it? >> '61. ralph nader: lucky wife. [laughter] [applause] ralph nader: good roads maybe. [laughter] >>>> i just want to thank you. without your controversy, we would not have a corvair today. ralph nader: does that mean i get a commission? [laughter] are the japanese starting to get interested in buying corvairs? you might want to have one of your annual meetings in japan. you will triple the price of your corvair. >> on history bookshelf here from the country's best-known american history writers of the past decade. every saturday at 4:00 p.m. eastern. you can watch any of our programs at any time. visit our website c-span.org/history. you are watching american history tv, all weekend, every weekend on c-span3. >> as president obama prepares for his state of the union address on tuesday, he released this video on twitter. pres. obama: as i am writing i think about the road we traveled together these past seven years. what makes a character great is our capacity to change for the better. our ability to come together as

david: he is a disciple of ralph nader.now the government has some guidance, but many of us exceed what they recommend. but there is no limit placed on any of these companies that make food. john: that is the issue here. for a long time, health authorities have recommended that people consume less sodium. the target is about 2.3 grams per day, about one tablespoon -- excuse me, teaspoon of salt. now, we all almost universally eat significantly more than that. and it is not because we are adding it at the table. it is generally because it is baked into the food -- the processed food, the restaurant meals that we all eat. the idea is that if you want to lower salt consumption across the board, you have to start at the pie. and get food manufacturers to agree to lower the sodium in their product. carol: i thought that was interesting in your story. even though we have become more aware of what we are eating, the salt intake has not really changed much. it has gone up. so, what does he want specifically here? john: jacobson and

david: he is a disciple of ralph nader.now the government has some guidance, but many of us exceed what they recommend. but there is no limit placed on any of these companies that make food. john: that is the issue here. for a long time, health authorities have recommended that people consume less sodium. the target is about 2.3 grams per day, about one tablespoon -- excuse me, teaspoon of salt. now, we all almost universally eat significantly more than that. and it is not because we are adding it at the table. it is generally because it is baked into the food -- the processed food, the restaurant meals that we all eat. the idea is that if you want to lower salt consumption across the board, you have to start at the pie. and get food manufacturers to agree to lower the sodium in their product. carol: i thought that was interesting in your story. even though we have become more aware of what we are eating, the salt intake has not really changed much. it has gone up. so, what does he want specifically here? john: jacobson and

and so she's pretty sure there's nobody else in her guard unit who was a ralph nader supporter like she was. a woman she sharing a tent with twitha beginner best friend durg the deployment, desma brooks, who i mentioned, she had voted for bush in that election. and then during the daytime michelle is working with an older one, the oldest woman in a national guard you know, debbie hamilton. debbie didn't vote in the election at all because she doesn'doesn't trust politicians coaches want to have anything to do with politics whatsoever. so yet another point of view that's very different than michelle's. debbie was not originally chosen to go on the deployment and she was terribly upset. michelle would've done anything not to go. but debbie argued her way onto the deployment because her father had been in the army. you always wanted to serve her country overseas. to her it was the most fulfilling moment of her life was when they said yes, you may go on this deployment. she worked as a beautician in a beauty salon back in indiana when she was not in the national guard. and she found the ide

ralph nader clearly went in there, i think it was ego, i do like ralph nader, but clearly it was ego.ok what happened to him. he killed al gore in florida and gave the election to george w. bush. that's a fact. he has to live with it, and i think anybody who votes third-party has to live with the fact that if they vote for someone who's probably not going to win, the real influence of their vote is to turn the election from one of the top contestants to the other. and to take responsibility for that as a voter. i think you should vote for the person you hope will be the next president. that's how you should vote, but that's my value judgment. >> just by this consideration that we're getting news of, might he turn any votes that are out there right now, without even having to run for the president of the united states? >> as i said, michael's a good guy, and a very impressive man, not just in business, but he really became a very good politician in new york. of course he's had to spend a lot of personal income funds in those races, but i watched him speak and how he went from being not

deirdre: four time presidential candidate ralph nader is my guest next. he will tell you what he thinks of last night's debate. plus the terrible month in the markets. gdp creating more recession, global recession worries. we're going to put it in context for you next. >> anyone claiming that america's economy is in decline is pedaling fiction. these are the hands that plow the data, dig up clues, create opportunity, and weave messages that lead to sales. these are the hands of pitney bowes, the craftsmen of commerce. these are the hands, the hands that drive commerce, that build business across borders. these are the hands of pitney bowes, the craftsmen of commerce. >> before we get to the washes be let's address the elephant not in the room tonight. deirdre: donald trump did not participate in the last gop debate before the iowa caucus. but the show did go on. >> that is the book where you changed your position on immigration. because you used to support a path to citizenship. >> so did you. >> didn't say a word about legalization. >> ted didn't have th

he did not -- this was the way the democratic party sought to demonize ralph nader, terrify them and and they had to destroy a because he actually represented the interests of working men and women and the 5 corporate power and logger and harder and better than ralph but you are right, you are right to point that out as a kind of seismic moment, we are certainly the most delusion society on the planet and by all these electronic hallucinations that are in our hand-held devices, the crux of this issue is that when this transformation takes place in a totalitarian system is largely imperceptible. when it is perceptible it is too late. >> want to just stretch on what chris said last time he spoke about his father and staying at the new york times, would have been be trying your father. i have always studied the family system all my life because it was the root of so many problems, we just don't have good leaders, people to give young coming into this world leverage and stand up for what is right. i tried to bring this out all my life and it was -- i was not popular. i could see the lack

bernie sanders recently joined very publicly and ralph nader was not an elected official.so far people who are focused on the staff having gained wide traction, but the conversations have just started. but again, it is best to not pay a legislator. it is better to convince the postmaster general. by the way, the first female postmaster general. neither here nor there, but interesting. [inaudible] i have relatives who have fallen into payday loans and it's very coming very difficult. they did themselves in a hole that they just can't get out of. the people live from paycheck to paycheck. you said in your presentation earlier the banking system was to encourage economies. for many people, they are very foreign to them. they don't think long-term. so how would the postal banks encourage more quickly or economically or how would it be a way for them to manage better? when i go to the package at the post office, [inaudible] so what you think? >> great question. when they answer that in two parts. one is i think a lot of people who rely on the, you know, it is not necessarily la

back to the main point, i think it could tip it in close contests many argue had there not been ralph naderpeting on third ballot particular in florida, florida would not even be close it, would have been president gore? >> i think that is absolutely true on nader and before that ross perot. the problem here with gary as well, governor johnson he does pull from both parties as you mentioned. he is very socially liberal. i've been to his speeches and small gatherings he holds. he is around d.c. he is very, very socially liberal but as well fiscally conservative. he will draw democrats disenchanted and draw from republicans. neil: you're saying equally? >> equally, if he can get on the ballot. neil: libertarian candidate has a good shot on getting in all 50-state ballots. you about to your point it doesn't guarranty anything. >> it's a voice that needs to be heard, marginal impact with the libertarian candidacy. if there is brokered convention, trump does not get the nomination, if he goes independent, wow, that will be multitudes of impact. >> some loud voices out there right now. like thank

this country can't afford another ralph nader number. w. winning over al gore. the round table sticking with us. these people tell me something i don't know. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> tina fey this weekend, reprising her role as sarah palin. just days after the former alaska governor herself endorsed donald trump. >> trump and his trumpeters are right-winging proud clingers of our guns, but he can kick isis' ass, because he commands fire. >> i hope nobody's allergic to nuts, because we've got a big one here. she's two corinthians short of a bible. >> the best part is, much of what tina fey used in that monologue wasn't written by the "snl's" writers, but taken from palin's speech itself. we'll be right back. >>> we're back now with a "hardball" round table. >> bernie sanders picked up a important endorsement today from a state lawmaker in south carolina. he help to lead the fight to get the confederate flag taken down. he's the lawyer for walter scott, the black man unarmed and shot by police officers. he switched from hillary to bernie. >>

and then ralph nader, who is not an elected official. so so far it's very people who are focused on this stuff, it hasn't gained wide traction. but, you know, the conversations have just started, so hopefully more. but again, it's best to not be a legislative thing. so i think it's better to do it, convince the postmaster general. because the postmaster general currently hasn't said either way. and by the way, it's the first female postmaster general ever which is neither here nor there, but interesting, i think. [laughter] >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> i have relatives who have fallen victim to payday loan companies and, you know, it's been very, very difficult. you dig yourself -- they've dug themselves into a hole that they just can't get out of. >> yeah. >> and those people live from paycheck to paycheck and, like you said, they deal in a cash economy. what you had said in your presentation earlier was one of the purposes of the postal banking system was to encourage economy. for many of these people, economy, banking, money, these ar

in 1971, in response to large part of ralph nader he said these books create a consumer movements and these consumers are trying to regulate our businesses. they're trying to politicize our businesses. we need to fight back. traditionally business has not been political, business needs to become political, you need to set up think tanks, an organization that will take up the judiciary, congress, take control of political parties, we need to gain control over the media. he went through this list, in my book the crash of 2016 i summarize the memo and there's a whole chapter on it. i see that is the starting point of the modern fast right now deregulation of the banking regulation that fdr put in place and 1935. between that and so called, free trade where we are basically the only country in the developed world that no longer protects our workers. it used to be everybody did it with tariffs. that was proposed by alexander hamilton in 1791 in his report on manufacturers. it is adopted in large part by congress and tariffs, which are taxes on ported goods, this is what trump talks about w

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it would be a little like 2000 where ralph nader ate away at some of the voting that would have gonnell toward al gore in places like florida. >> i will say what's different this time is he's actually commissioned last week a poll to be done to see how he would do and according to "new york times" he said that he's willing to spend a billion dollars of his own money to jump in. a billion dollars. >> yeah. i think he's looking at donald trump and there's part of him that is seeing right now a self-funded, not totally self-funded, self-started candidacy for someone with this much wealth could work. part of him is enticed i think by the idea this time it's real. the way campaign finances changed has now opened up the playing field for someone with significant wealth to actually have an impact and even make a run for the presidency. >> i should note he did say back in 2010 on the record that he would not run. by, hey, everything changes in politics. that's for sure. let's move on. i want your take on another big topic of focus right now. a lot of reporting this week about these two factions

and i also spent right a bit of time in a van with ralph nader. i covered all of those people. i think fairly because whatever my personal feelings are about politics, i think that i could bring in objectivity to it. i think if i was out there saying, my personal feelings, then that takes away from my ability to be seen as someone who is fair. you get called out on it. i joked about something was on facebook and three people were like, you're an editor at the l.a. times you should not be saying that. i said i'm sorry, also in my sense of humor now, too. to be fair, in my flash of anger, i thought, they have a point. everything is public. the idea that there is a private facebook channel or even if you only allowed authorized people to follow your twitter, that woman got fired for the jokes about ebola or was it ebola? aids in africa. she was an idiot. really. i would say nothing on social media with the expectation that it would not eventually get out. the sony hack taught a lot of us that even what you say your e-mail is potentially public. i think it is challenging. you used

he could remember, obviously, what ralph nader was able to do in places like florida.ormer ross perot candidate joining us. orchestrating a campaign. he got over 90% of the vote. you hear a lot of the bush senior folks sell it. they tip that one it one way or the other to a candidate. >> i think that they like to have plenty of excuses. they do not like responsibilities. everybody gets to come. period not really the problem for al gore. the construction of a ballot. more votes in one county than any other state in the country. probably both intended for al gore. neil: you raise a very good point. the most successful third-party candidate. back in history. thinking teddy roosevelt. they can make very big impressions. they do not get the ross rang. very rarely a single electorate vote. >> they raise issues that the establishment candidate will not raise during the election. what typically happens after an election is the two bodies try to co-opt the issues of the independent candidate. both are republicans and democrats running around the country. the new term election a

the same thing that janet yellen when she talks directly to ralph nader, that they weren't financiallyssing. the fed should stop listening and do the job they're supposed to do. >> lock the doors, close the windows, turn the tvs off and think big picture and do what's best. >> that's right. >> sara, back to you. >> thank you, rick santelli. >>> the selloff is continuing today. stocks with exposure to china are some of the hardest hit. bertha coombs has a look at the names. >> one of the chinese depository shares is one of the worst performing. jd.com is a rival to alibaba in the commerce area in china. one of the stocks that sees big swings when you get concerns about china's economy slowing today. not surprisingly, the internet names are being hit hard today as well. baozun, weibo, some of the internet social media stocks in china. and u.s. economies with a lot of exposure also today among the biggest decliners here at nasdaq. of course wynn resorts, about 70% of its business comes from china. we know that the result in macow were down again. that's weighing on the casino names. also

some pundits attributed al gore's inability to win the white house to third party candidates like ralph nadero maybe detracted from some of the democratic vote. and i similarly heard different commentators posit that there are voters who would see bernie as a good potential second choice who are currently committed to hillary, but the reverse is not true. and i wondered about your opinion on that, the idea that even if there were not a sanders nomination for the democrats, could sanders cost hillary the white house in the general election? be do you think that's -- do you think that's possible? >> i think that is such a significant question and really, i think, gets to the crux of the issue, the challenge for the clinton campaign, is hillary clinton's likability factor, right? and is there, is that -- would democratic voters decide, who were disaffected with the party establishment who don't want to see hillary clinton run, would they stay home. i think it's too early to tell. first of all, i think there are a number of positives that secretary clinton has as well and, i mean, this would be i

correct me if i'm wrong, i know that some -- to win the white house to third party candidates like ralph nader who may be detracted from some of the democratic vote. i have similarly heard different commentators posit that there are voters who would see bernie isaac a potential second choice for currently committed to rebut the reverse is not true. i wonder about your opinion on that, the idea that even if there were not a standards nomination for the democrats, could centers cost hillary the white house in the general election? >> i think that if such a significant question, and really i think it's the crux of the issue, the challenge for the clinton campaign is that hillary clinton's likability factor, and is a better bat, with democratic voters decide not come who are disaffected with the party establishment who don't want to see hillary clinton run, would they stay home? i think it's too early to tell. for civil i think think there are a number of positives that secretary clinton has as well. i mean, and this would be if she wins, and historical election and the united states. i think the

some pundits attributed al gore's inability to win the white house to third party candidates like ralph nadero maybe detracted from some of the democratic vote. i've similarly heard different commentators posit that there are voters who would see bernie as a choice who are committed to hillary but the reverse is not true. i wondered about your opinion on that, the idea that even if there were not a sanders nomination for the democrats, could sanders cost hillary the white house in the general election? do you think that's possible? >> i think that is such a significant question. and really i think it gets to the crux of the issue, the challenge for the clinton campaign, is hillary clinton's likability factor, and is that -- would democratic voters decide -- who are disaffected with the party establishment, who don't want to see hillary clinton run, would they stay home. i think it's too early to tell. first of all, i think there are a number of positives that secretary clinton has as well. and this would be if she wins, right, an historic election in the united states. and i think that the ge

and we have seen ralph later, for that matter -- ralph nader, for that matter, having an appeal to blue-collar voters. there has always been these voices for discontent out there, what will we are lacking is a real program for addressing. -- addressing the culture. factor is another that back in the late 1960's, you had single-digit number of kids in america were born to unmarried mothers. in recent years, you had 40% of kids born in america to unmarried mothers. for ak it is very hard person being raised in a nontraditional family to get through school and graduate. host: terry jeffreything or two about pat buchanan, serving on his campaign, previously with human events, and he now serves as the editor in chief of cnsnews.com. at work available online townhall.com. who is ance page, author, and is, of course, is syndicated columnist for the "chicago tribune." this is a comment from gene, who is a regular tweeter from all hell. he says let's stop blaming government for everything. it is the politicians who run our government. go to andy, kentucky, the democrats line. good morning. caller: hey,