mitt romney?lican party has watched amazed as mitt has gone off script, way off script to take on donald trump. >> whatever happened to trump airlines? how about trump university? >> for a guy who really let us down. poor moammar gadhafi poor mitt romney. >> then there's trump magazine. you say, wait, wait, wait. isn't he a huge business success? >> he is a sad case. do you know what a choke artist is? >> when my grand kids say what did you do on stop donald trump, i want to be able to say something. i was not going to stay on the sidelines. >> back in 2013, even before there was a trump, romney talked about running for president a third time. >> it never goes away. you always want to be president. if you wanted to be president one day, you want to be president until the day you die. >> it is a real thrill. an experience we will never forget. and frankly, i would do it again. >> you would? again? >> i would do it again. but it's not my time. >> okay. i'll go with that. >> i would love to do it aga

think about the people supporting mitt romney, think about mitt romney. he's not exactly the kind of guy that would inspire excitement. what donald trump has done on the other hand, mary anne, he sort of turned this all on its head and gotten this emotional outpouring from people in a way that frankly is nothing like what we saw from romney. >> well, trish, i appreciate that point, and two very different candidates, but my point is this isn't a likely voter election, it's not even a registered voter election which democrats do better in. there are many more newly elected, newly registered voters. in a place like florida. puerto ricans are in florida who are registered voters. first time voters. that's not captured in the polls. if there is anything underrepresented in the polls, it's the new voters. many of whom are democrats. that's where the romney people missed the boat. i'm listening to the trump people and the brexit analogies. i appreciate it. fundamentally that's not what you see in the good polls. trish: are you saying bloomberg is not a good poll

mitt romney's going to surprise everyone. sure enough, on election day, it wasn't a surprise, if he had been looking at the state polling, showing obama had been ahead. the story is even bleaker for donald trump. there are odds that he will just hold the states mitt romney held is coming into question with states like north carolina now having slightly more diverse populations, lots of younger voters, being a state that is on the bubble for republicans, whoever our nominee is this year, should not be in jeopardy of losing any republican states against a weaker candidate than barack obama in hillary clinton. >> mark, so in the four national polls i showed you, the trend is clear. clinton has gained a lot of support since the previous polls were taken, since the tape has come out, all of the controversy. is she going to. i hate to say this, is she going to let the clock run out. >> i think what the clinton campaign has done smartly, is not take anything for granted. then you run like you're 20 points down all the time. >> she's

mitt romney?s mitt has gone off script, way off script to take on donald trump. >> whatever happened to trump airlines? how about trump university? >> for a guy who really let us down, this poor mitt romney. it's sad. he's going around -- oh. >> then there's trump magazine. but you say wait, wait, wait. isn't he a huge business success? >> he's a sad case. he choked. you know what a choke artist is? >> when my grandkids say what did you do to stop donald trump i want to be able to say something. i was not going to stay on the sidelines till the very end. >> back in 2013 even before there was a donald trump romney talked about running for president a third time. >> it never goes away. you always want to be president. if you wanted to be president one day, you want to be president until the day you die. >> it is a real thrill. an experience we will never forget. and frankly, i would do it again. >> you would? again? >> i would do it again. but it's not my time. >> okay. i'll go with that. >> i would

mitt romney's a car guy. they keep misquoting him, but let me tell you about the mitt romney i know. i was talking to a family in northborough, massachusetts the other day, sheryl and mark nixon. their kids were hit in a car crash, four of them. two of them, rob and reed, were paralyzed. the romneys didn't know them. they went to the same church. they never met before. mitt asked if he could come over on christmas. he brought his boys, his wife, and gifts. later on, he said, "i know you're struggling, mark. don't worry about their college. i'll pay for it." when mark told me this story, because, you know what, mitt romney doesn't tell these stories. the nixons told this story. when he told me this story, he said it wasn't the help, the cash help. it's that he gave his time, and he has consistently. this is a man who gave 30 % of his income to charity, more than the two of us combined. mitt romney's a good man. he cares about 100 percent of americans in this country. and with respect to that quote, i think the

clinton was telling donors in a closed door meeting in february as it was obsessed with the story of mitt romney doing the same thing four years ago, bee bemoans that supporters wouldn't support him because of -- mitt tom me that he was inelegant. he was. but the media never let go. on this story, what about the media? what did it do? do your homework. look around. did. didn't find much of anything. brent is not too surprised this media research center, a media whiz on why that is. good to see you. >> hi, neil. how are you? >> well, on this thing if you're going to go after -- as they should have at the time with this behind closed door remarks mitt romney made, if you want to make hay, have it's. four years later we're presented with the same see norow with the democratic standard bearer, nothing, contradict kits -- crickets. >> here are the numbers. they're incredible. if you look at the coverage of the media and donald trump's taxes, 49 minutes, 21 seconds. the media -- 42 seconds. the media and hillary and what she said, two minutes and 41 seconds. that's almost a 25 to one disparate. now, l

trump assume victory for those who did not vote for mitt romney. esident obama won 4.9 million votes only because 5 million wide state home enthused by mr. romney. on the surface missing 5 million sounds plausible. carl rove joins me now, former senior adviser to president bush. you go onto right, karl that that isn't enough this time, why is that? >> well, first of all, for two reasons, one is -- is that donald trump is running mind mitt romney's performance among whites in not the most recent fox poll but the one before it representative of what's been happening this month. trump was deriving 45% among whites and leading clinton among them but mitt romney took 59%. so right now he's not where he needs to be. the expectation was that he would be above mitt romney among whites, maybe 61, 62% among whites. jenna: would that be enough to make the difference that we saw between romney and president obama and that's to push trump over the edge to be the windshield windshield -- winner. it's not only the margin among whites but the percentage from comes

>> looks. >> mitt romney and obama appear about equal. who stand behind the candidate. at this obama rally, people were already seated behind the podium when a staffer, highlighted here, came on stage and got some white people to move out. >> if you look at a candidate for president, he's got a bunch of people behind him, half will be men, half will be women. >> and a certain number will be of a different race. in this case, the result is that the camera now will see some minorities behind obama. >> there will be a percentage of blacks, hispanics, a percentage of asians. that's the way you do it. >> i thought it just worked out that way. >> you did? that's why you're sitting where you're sitting and i'm sitting where i'm sitting. you don't have a clue how this works. >> people have to be cynical about baby kissing. >> kids are a particular attraction. i like to use kids. i'm always worried they'll pick up a baby and drop it. >> how much superficialallity, but for all hmm. [cell phone beeps] hey! [police whistle blows] [horns honking] woma

how do you compare in contrast, you know, the record, the business record of mitt romney and donald trumpre is no comparison. governor romney even democrats admit that he was a phenomenal businessman and ground breaking with his work. trump's business record is ripe with bankruptcies and failed ventures. so you don't see the same sort of respect there. and governor romney also articulated a conservative vision of pro growth economics. and i don't think there is a belief that donald trump is necessarily up to speed on what it takes with the economy. having said all of that, there is a real discontentment with voters, and with the business community that think it is rigged against them, and if donald trump can go back to that change of washington message, and point out that hillary clinton's part of the corrupt system in washington, that's the winning message that still can win over business leaders. >> all right. >> but he has got to stick to that and make it possible for people to support him. >> all right, we'll see what happens perhaps in eight days for the second presidential debate. c

please join me in welcoming governor mitt romney. [applause] mitt romney: thank you so much. very generous. very kind. thank you. thank you. thank you. very genius. thank you. please. thank you, tom. that was a powerful introduction and powerful remarks. it's good to be with you today. i get asked on a regular basis, boy, why aren't you running this year. i ask myself that now and then, too. but i did that once, you may not have known that. i'm asked, why did you lose? and i do remember the famous by fritz mondale after he he had the misfortune of running against ronald reagan, he said, all my life, i wanted to run for president in the worst way, that's just what i did. [laughter] mitt romney: i learned from my experience a greater degree of optimism about the future for the country. we are a great people and we have characteristics which will allow america in my view to lead the world this century and perhaps beyond. i say that in particular now because we're going through a dramatic change in the nature of competition and enterprise in the world. that change is associated w

mitt romney has been silent of who he would support.ame out and said mcmullin, you could see utah definitely going mcmullin, maybe idaho, maybe that switches things in arizona. there's a big block of voters waiting for mitt romney to say something but he's been he tant to do so. >> you've heard this not only because of mcmullin but we have jill stein, gary johnson, that third party vote could be wasted. that's the common question being asked. how are utahans talking about that? >> i always go to my mom when i think about these things. >> mom's a good barometer, right? >> exactly. i'm trying to figure out where are you going to go, mom? die hard republican, voted republican her entire life and i think she's writing in mitt romney. i think a lot of voters out there in utah are trying to figure out what to do and having a third and fourth option is a good idea. >> what's your guess in terms of the number of folks that might be writing in mitt romney? >> there's a good percentage. i wouldn't say it's higher than 2% or 3% but it's a gad part

back in 2012, barack obama beat mitt romney by 11 points.clinton almost has twice the margin here that barack obama had in 2012. also, what i find very interesting, latino numbers right now where hillary clinton is overperforming, barack obama in 2012 and when it comes to whites, donald trump has just an 11 point lead with white voters. that's versus mitt romney's 20 point lead according to 2012 exit polls. so no matter how you slice it right now, donald trump is in a very tough position. our poll shows him trailing by 10 to points and breaking down these further shows you the hole he's? >> we just reported that michelle obama will be going to arizona on thursday. the clinton campaign also increasing tv ads by mailing in arizona by $2 million and refocused on a larger map. but can you explain to the audience why in your poll, nbc news, 11 points and the other, 4 points. nate silver around 7. it seems like a big difference here. >> tamron, and of course, not every poll is created equally. i think we end upstanding by our numbers and looking c

but speaking of profound, did hillary clinton just stumble upon herm mitt romney moment? an event caught on tape at a fund raising affair back in february. take a listen. >> there's just a deep desire to believe that, you know, we can have free college, free health care, that what we've done hasn't gone far enough and we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, scandinavia. whatever that means. we're short of the great recession. and they are living in their parents' basement. if you're feeling that you're consigned to, you know, being a barista or, you know, some other job that doesn't pay a lot and doesn't have much of a ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. >> they are living in their parents' basement. i don't know about you but i saw a lot of older bernie sanders supporters. i think if that was the case they were living in their own basement. be that as it may, did a lot of that strike you as something very familiar from four years ago? remember this? >> ther

then you have the more traditional mitt romney view we should be more inclusive and so on. i do think this is not agreed upon -- after 2012 the republican autopsy was agreed to by most republicans in the establishment. i don't think that view is universal anymore. there's now much stronger faction of the party. if trump wins iowa, ohio and florida, which is all realistic, if trump wins a couple states romney did not win, it's going to be hard to tell people in the party who already don't -- already want to move to a hard right direction this cannot win electoraly because trump will have done better than mitt romney did. >> very interesting. we will find out whether that strategy can work inch petri dish of african-american population but donald trump is heading into the belly of white part of colorado, loveland, colorado and speaking to supporters. let's listen to him for a minute. >> this corrupt system in every way. this is your last chance to change it. i really believe this. this is your last election where you're going to have a chance. if we don't win between supreme

mitt romney lost to barack obama in 2012. but there's no question that donald trump sees momentum and now he's got a new attack on health care that he thinks will carry him to election day. >> carl, thank you. for his part, vice presidential candidate mike pence is headed to utah. utah. with critics suggesting that this trip signals trouble since this is a state that has rely blie voted republican in everybody presidential contest since 1964. rudy giuliani says not to worry that trump still has a few surprises in for us. >> did trump plan anything except for a series of inspiring rallies. >> yes. >> what? >> you'll see. >> when will this happen? >> we've got a couple of surprises left. >> october surprises? >> surprises in the way that we're going to campaign to get our message out there maybe in a little bit of a different way. you'll see. i think it will be enormously effective. >> joining me now, running mate to donald trump, governor mike pence. thank you for being here. can you give us any sort of a hint what that means,

you are seeing mitt romney now talking. i think we have an update.isten to him now. >> the last day with the tape where mr. trump was revealed not just offensive language, but offensive conduct. i have already said something, i don't have something to add other than i want to express on the behalf of myself and my party how much we love all the people in this country, regardless of gender, ethnicity and religion. i was offended and dismayed by what was said and done by mr. trump. i think it's degrading to our women, our daughters, our granddaughters and future generations. i dearly hope that we will come together as a nation and stand as firmly as we can for the principles that have made us a shining city on a hill, not just here, a city on the hill and for people around the world. i love this great country. i love what it represents. i love the people of america. i have to tell you, the greatest thrill of my life was being able to go with my family to see this country, meet you here in nevada and people across the country. we are a great and noble p

people went to the polls for mitt romney and there is a difference saying he is not barack obama. they went to the polls for barack obama. they didn't say it's not the other guy. >> there was some enthusiasm issues with romney and other parts of republicans. by the way, donald trump is winning obama voters at least in the state of iowa. no way the numbers are what they are if people that voted obama are not voting trump. >> that's the popular vote. >> that speaks to that group of voter. >> it's a whiter state. >> most people would agree if democrats had a more appealing candidate at this point against trump it would be a blowout. do you buy that? there has been the idea. >> she is a lot stronger than people are giving her credit for. >> joe biden would be a lot bigger. >> knows believe that. >> the democrats were hurting because they had a terrible time for a variety of reasons. they need -- even going forward, a younger more dynamic candidate. pin their hopes on that. they have all the issues and the demographics favor the democrats. >> and isn't the problem the establishment repu

lost he has to outperform mitt romney. if you look at women, for example. romney lost women by 11 points. and that was considered large. trump is down by double that. according to a whole bunch of polls we've looked at. that's problem for him. by every measure, not just women, but if you look at latinos. romney got 27%. which was very low. trump is at 17%. and so you see that in almost every category, and i can go down here a long list, is that trump has these deficits. also, one other thing we have to take into consideration, which we see in the monmouth poll. saw it in the "wall street journal" poll last week, the favorable view of donald trump. 26% of voters have a favorable view of donald trump. hillary clinton's isn't that great either. 38%. but 26% is quite a deficit to make up, and it would be unpress definited and dramatic if he did make that deficit up on that favorability issue. >> he has three weeks to go. three week and a day. david, magic number, 270 electoral votes. look at polling. where do the candidates sta

there are no democratic seats open in states mitt romney carried. so republicans just have more exposure here. it has nothing to do with donald trump or hillary clinton. no matter what is going on, they would be having some problems. i think the senate will be a photo finish. 50-50, give or take, a seat. we will have to wait and see. guest: up until a couple days ago, i thought the impact was minimal because -- and i still think until i'm disproven, which it may be disproven in the next week -- that republican senate candidates, mostly senate incumbents, have been able to run as their own candidate, localized their races and focus on their opponent. and not have their races be a referendum on donald trump. part of this is donald trump is a pretty unique political figure and presidential candidate. i think voters have been making this distinction. "ok, there is donald trump but there's kelly ayotte." "there is donald trump, but there is pat toomey." the danger for republicans is if donald trump does so poorly that as we approach the election it looks

mitt romney is a good man. with respect to that quote i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't not appear what-- melt the right way. [laughter] >> i always say what, i mean, and so does romney. >> we want everyone to succeed. we want to get everyone out of poverty. we believe in opportunity and mobility and that's what we will push for in the romney administration. >> mr. vice president, i have a feeling you have a few things to say. >> the idea if you heard that 37%, you would think he just made a mistake and i have a bridge to sell you. love, i don't doubt his personal generosity and i understand what it's like. when i was younger than the congressman, my wife was in an accident, killed my daughter and my wife and my two sons of survived. i have sat in the homes of many people who i have been through because the one thing you can give people solace is to know that you have been through it and that they can, so it don't doubt his personal commitment to individuals, but i know h

meantime, mitt romney couldn't get in the state. he couldn't get around.hristie told him to stay away which is probably right. what is mitt romney going to do other than stand around and have nice hair. he blows nicely -- >> the breeze is coming in. >> right. he won't be able to do anything. that's where running against an incumbent makes it harder because obama could go there, push his message about -- >> that's not the case here. >> not the case here. we got nobody. people who are, a never was and a former. so what? and all they can do is stay away and hope that people from their parties, that republican governors of the states, and that president and his organization, don't screw up because if they do, it will be bad for them. >> dana, we also have a presidential debate this sunday night, within 24 hours of this storm hitting land fall. >> so you will have, this could be upwards of 15 million and multiples of that that are going to be focused on the storm. and pay little attention to the debate. nobody pays attention as much as we do. but it is possible

met romney posted this tweet -- met romney -- mitt romney posted a tweet about degrading wives and daughters. >> people in iowa must stick together as a te >> my feeling is we have a huge double standard. i would say, let's go back and look at how the clintons have been treated and are they being given the same scrutiny for what they have done as we are seeing with donald trump? >>> brand stand says that he will keep campaigning with trump and mike pence. joni ernst has also sent -- also pledged her support for have taken to twitter to share their explicit -- their were too many to even put on

and a senior strategist for mitt romney's 2012 presidential run, and stuart, to take me inside these for example, in 2012 looking at romney, he won big in these polls on the first debate, he won by a margin of 42, then president obama won the next one by a margin of seven and the next by a margin of eight. that's the way all these numbers were assembled. but i guess it's fair to say, hillary clinton had the weakest opponent in a debate that anyone has seen before. >> well, you know, you go back to the primaries, one of the biggest of things he pushed for was that he would win these debates, just like he would self-fund, just like he was going to win california and new york, and it's proven to be another trump university bet on the sell but not the performance. >> not been a good debater at all. >> but the other thing you could say is hillary clinton had a unique challenge that no one's ever had. everybody else in debate prep prior to this year knew, you basically knew the range of mitt romney's moves, the range of barack obama's moves. you could understand where their gravitational f

. >> the explanation mirrored what mitt romney said about taxes in 2012. >> i pay all of the taxes that are legally required and not a dollar more. >> but the clinton campaign portrayed it as the sort of bombshell romney warned was lurking in trump's tax returns. >> it shows the colossal scale of his business failures in the 1990s which probably hit a nerve and he's probably ashamed of today. >> and he crashed businesses into bankruptcy and leaving scores of businesses unpaid and people really hurting with the losses his companies have suffered, but he walks away unscathed. >> the trump campaign did not dispute the fact of the reports but said the returns were illegally obtained and threatened legal action and the campaign insists trump has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city tax, state tax, employee taxes and federal and state taxes. >> this is a good story for trump. there is no information in the story that said mr. trump did

katie packer, she was on the show recently, the deputy managing campaign manager for mitt romney's 2012 campaign told "the washington post," quote, for next-generation professional women, the party's going to have to do something very, very drastic to change the course of where this candidate has taken us. well, how much damage is it? we've watched a lot of this and shown you the exhibits on both sides. joining me right now, michael steele, the former chair of the republican national committee. he's an msnbc political analyst. author ron reagan, also an msnbc political analyst. and molly ball, staff writer for the atlantic. molly, i want to defer to the former chair of the republican party first. i know it's a women's issue, but i've got to ask michael. this is the craziest, craziest juxtaposition. there you have the most dash -- you've got to be careful how you say things, beautiful first lady, attractive, dynamite speaker, incredibly polished, ivy leaguer in every possible good sense of that word, charming, persuasive, a role model for everyone, male and female, of every background. a

for mitt romney.an be disastrous for him here. a historic defeat for the republican party in utah. i spent time with a young mormon family and they have little kids and they were looking to themselves as what they were going to do. definitely not donald trump, but they are thinking about it. >> republicans for you? >> traditionally yes, we always voted republican. >> did you caucus in the republican primary? >> yeah. the delegates. pa. >> here we are close to election day. what are you guys going to do? >> we battled back and forth. >> for a little while i looked at hillary clinton and now i'm excited about the momentum. it caused me to like explore my own political beliefs. traditionally we towed the party line because that's everyone around here is a republican. >> will this be the first time you haven't voted for republican for president ever? >>. >> correct. >> for you both? >> yes. >> what is the primary motivating factor in not voting for donald trump? is it your faith? >> it's like a core belie

former massachusetts governor mitt romney. he is a triple threat, business leader, dedicated in a dedicated and effective public servant and he is a good and decent man. he knows what it takes to run a business, he's done it. he knows what it takes to run a state, he's done it. and he is proof that politics don't need to be nasty and politicians can indeed abide by strong principles. throughout its career, he's been guided by faith, values and integrity. we could use a little more of that today. he's also one to tell the truth and to speak without apology about what he believes. time and again he wonders about threats we face in politics, in policy and national security and time again he's proven have been right. when i heard that he was going to be the keynote speaker today, i asked lisa, would you listen to my suggestions?

county which is where we are now won by mitt romney. donald trump having a rally here. they had early voting, he seems to be heading into a deficit here in the state of florida. real clear politics has hillary clinton up by about 2 and a half points. donald trump had been leading here and donald trump and the campaign blaming the turn of fortunes, obviously what happened in the last 72 hours but also suggesting without the support of all republican that is makes the path to victory much more difficult taking any of the people in paul ryan and senator john mccain for not being supported as they should be, john mccain actually withdrawing support. he's taking the approach very much like he did in the campaign where he is going to be his own man. he's not going to listen to other people in terms of being more politically correct. not going to play powder-puff football. kellyanne conway was asked about the difference means in fox and

. >> let's talk about mitt romney because you were saying some prominent republicans are coming out for mcmullin here. you know, romney doing of course quite well in utah in 2012. it's a heavily mormon state as you know and you report on. when we look at both romney, at least in the past and mcmullin, they're both mormon and are consistent with that. if a public endorsement from romney would help him carry utah, that's really been the question. he was asked that today on abc's "this week" and i want to play a little bit of that. >> we've invited republican leaders to join us in this cause. the reality is that the vast majority of republican leaders are putting party ahead of principle and putting power over the interests of their own country. and that's the challenge that we have going forward. that's the challenge that this country has. that's the challenge that the republican party will have. and that's the challenge that the conservative movement has. >> again, mcmullin was asked how

mitt romney beat us by 48% in utah. and now he's tied. he's got to stop these holes springing up in his boat. and i think the clinton campaign's doing exactly what they should do, and that's go big. >> hillary clinton, latest poll, 39, donald trump 37, that comes against a backdrop of john mccain abandoning donald trump in arizona, so you look at that and you would place that bet for hillary clinton. donald trump is trailing with latino voters by 50 points nationally. mitt romney got 29% of latino voters. trump's now at 17. he's doing barely better than that in arizona. if you're the clinton campaign, you say go for it. i think it's crucial, the combination of the opportunity in arizona and the hemorrhage being in women and latino votes means they're going to take a shot of it. >> how much would you think the rigged election would get in your head? would you say i'm sticking to my game? >> you know, i think whatrump is saying is just another silly thing that you can't worry about it. in the war room, as you know better than anyone, you st

he needs to win 46 votes over what mitt romney. >> mitt romney did not win florida. >> mitt romney did not win florida but by a very close margin. donald trump needs to improve across all sorts of types of voter groups in order to try to overcome that and take that big prize. right now donald trump is struggling amongst important groups like women and including the latino population which is a pretty big part of winning florida where donald trump continues to struggle. >> well, republicans used to do reasonably well with the latino vote because they got such heavy margin out of the very large cuban population in miami area. has that changed? >> it's changed a little bit. >> look at this poll on the screen i'm sorry to interrupt you, kristin. i don't know if you can see this. you can see the hispanic voters are heavily for hillary clinton. i guess he stunt have any hope of winning them. he could cut in that margin. >> mitt romney won 39% of latino voters in florida four years ago. donald trump is about 9 points behind. part of that as you mentioned is the composition of the latino vote

i think this far exceeds what happened with mitt romney's 47% moment. this is one of those moment that's can absolutely sink a campaign. and as dana was saying earlier donald trump has had a trproble with women voters throughout this process. if you're a female voter on the fence and undecided and thinking maybe you don't like hillary clinton so maybe you will vote for donald trump this is one of those moment that's will give somebody a tremendous amount of

it is still tough and he has to not just win the red states that mitt romney and mccain won, but turn some of the other states. there's promise for doing that but you have to run an almost perfect game and to let the bottom fall out of fund-raising when you rely on the rnc to do your get out the vote because you don't have a conventional operation, that's a problem. you can't run a perfect game that way for the next 11 days. >> not only an almost perfect game. you have to run a perfect game in order to run the path he has before him right now. >> you have to play the game. sometimes to play the game it takes money, right? you have to be willing to spend it. >> you always get the last word. >> you're right. i'm sorry. i retract my comment. stick around. a lot more to discuss about money, about other things and also this. the lawyer who repped al gore in 2000 is saying to donald trump save your breath, challenging an election is near impossible. he will explain live. >>> plus the headline you don't want coming out of a senate debate. racially charged attack. that's what republican senat

you have mitt romney talking to the chamber of commerce, which is not pro--trump.t romney being the original never trumper, extolling the virtue of american business and down the road at his own business at his new hotel at the post office you have donald trump talking about his business and himself and couldn't be two more different guys. before romney went onstage, about 15 or 20 minutes before he went onstage, he tweeted, be sure to head to the polls for republican senate and house and state houses. to advantage constitution conservati conservatism. he didn't say that on the stage to the house of commerce, what he is talking about today to republicans. okay, you don't have to vote for donald trump but make sure you keep republican state and houses. >> donald trump formally opened up his new hotel and the spoke a little bit more somber dialogue today, and he did make the point, america is great. >> yes. interesting, because he gave that address at gettysburg and in many ways that speech, i mean, like a pitisberg speech, sounded like settles scores. today sounded

the men tilt republican, but statewide, college educated women-- who went for mitt romney four years-- this time are struggling to support donald trump. 51-year-old elizabeth wakeford has lived in north carolina for decades. she's voted for both parties in past presidential elections, but not this year-- she plans to write in a candidate. >> i would love for a woman to be president, i'm certainly not adverse to that, just not this woman. the emails are concerning in terms of national security. i do worry what might have been in there that got carelessly shared with others. >> woodruff: so that's hillary clinton, what about donald trump. what's your sense of him? >> it's kind of like a junior high student beating his chest going, "oh, yeah, i'm going to getcha, and this is how." and you think, really? you're an adult, you're running for office-- the highest office in the land. what are you doing? i cannot tell you how much i cannot stand that candidate. if i may make a comparison, donald trump is overtly distasteful. i find hillary more covertly distasteful. >> woodruff: just 11 miles

mitt romney is there, along with several other prominent republicans. romney, of course, is vehemently against trump, so we could hear from romney at the rally about the trump audiotape. we will bring that to you live if he does start talking about this latest controversy. >>> and joining me now, rick tyler, msnbc political analyst and former national spokesman for the cruz campaign. rick, thanks so much for joining me. really appreciate it. >> happy to do it. >> let me get your reaction to a little bit of breaking news. we learned mike pence is now not going to wisconsin. of course, he was supposed to go in donald trump's stead today. what do you make of that? i spoke with boris epstein who said it's just a scheduling glitch. the timing clearly suspicious. >> looks suspicious to me. i have to say that the boris interview was epic. i think it was most orwellian or owe lynn ski interview i've ever seen. they are in such denial of the reality happening. let me walk you through what's going on and the rhetorical trap they're now in. on the one hand, boris

in 2012 went seven points to mitt romney.was on a mission to go to a base county and drum up the vote there. and not dissimilar from hillary clinton. in broward county. a county barack obama won 67-32 over mitt romney. tlefs interest she was there to base voters. >>> joining me now blah blah blah. awesome people. also trump supporters kayleigh mcenany and corey lewandowski. lets start with the non partisans. for donald trump florida is critical. the problem is he's also got to get a bunch of other states as well. >> florida is must-win. if he doesn't win he's dead in the water. he's got pick up a lot of states. he's got to do better than mitt romney in 2012. he's losing to hillary clinton in north carolina which romney won in 2012. arizona a toss up. georgia and texas are closure. all these he has to defend but at the same time he has to win pennsylvania and ohio. and right now the math isn't there. florida is a must win but so are a lot of other states. >> what is more important? energizing the base or reaching out o other v

mitt romney won by and the margin is five.t's better to be five points ahead than five points behind, but when you are only sitting on a five-point lead, you may end up worrying about missouri. other warning signs in very unlikely places. check this out. utah. romney won by 48 points. it has gone for a democrat since 1964. he is tied with hillary clinton with 26%. we will show you why that's happening later. utah is very much a state right now if you are trump that you have to worry about. you may end up having to worry about missouri and believe it or not, alaska. before the videotape came out, a poll was out that had donald trump ahead by five points. look at gary johnson the laneitarian here. alaska could be a state he worries about. arizona could be a problem. there is close polls there. let's see what happens. georgia is another state that could cost trump there. he started at 192. he may have to worry about the republican states. the red states we were all assuming he would win. donald trump is in a situation where the f

mitt romney got 59% in 2012 and lost.conversations about the republican party, on the interstate you have to drive 100 miles and only 75 miles worth of gas. you debate whether to stop and get gas. the car doesn't care, it will stop. republicans have to decide we can reach out to more non-white voters and win elections or not. there's no alternative. >> when i go to these rallies for pence and for donald trump and i talk to people, they don't feel as though the republican party really stuck with them. they feel like the party just doesn't understand the anxiety they are feeling about the economy and also about health care and what they're going to take care of their families. in some ways they sound like people who voted for obama. i was talking to people about whether they voted for obama. people were like, even with him, they thought there was going to be change. the republican party, 75% of them don't sound like the people that the establishment says they are. >> it's interesting you bring that up. iowa and ohio are the

but narrowly lost it to mitt romney in 2012. helped him. >> there's a lot of people around here that don't have health insurance they can't afford it. >> but he's leaning towards donald trump this year. >> i hear all this thing about having a woman president. i don't know. i shown say that because i'm not really against women having any kind of job but i just feel that, you know, not really sure about having a woman in there. that's going to make me unpopular to say that. she's not a business person eritrea. you have a big contrast of a business person versus a politician. >> pennsylvania hasn't gone red since 1988. the key to winning here many say is philadelphia and its suburbs where a third of the voters are. but donald trump has put this state in play with his appeal to white working class voters like right here in berks county. can he make enough of a dent in neighboring montgomery county? it is wealthier, largely white collar and there are more college graduates. >> hillary is a much stronger candidate. whenever trump is t