the statement of that view is madison's federalist 10. if you believe that you leave the states are a greater threat to liberty than the federal government. the federal government there are fewer federal representatives and you are less likely to know them personally so the conventional dairy is the mockeries are -- democracies are protected by their very nature and you are more likely to know your state governor who who comes back every weekend. madison thought actually does more distant aloof elitist government will be better at detecting my minority rights. if you state that you think okay it's important to have rights against the federal government does the skeptics of the constitution want that and the people have seen state declarations of rights so they think a proper government should have them but as important as all that is i james mattis and believe it's even more port and to have rights against state government a status that no state shall abridge the following fundamental rights. the most of the other things that become provi

he asked james madison to look at it. madison says you can't say that, take it out. the fact that he did put it in shows how conscious people were that he was a kind of king. i think he played that role as a surrogate monarch. republicanism was new to the people. he eased us, if you will, into republicanism by behaving scrupulously as a republican president and playing a role that the people wanted of a monarch that made the new government acceptable to hosts of people who were frightened of it. so both as commander in chief and as president he was indispensable. he made the new nation possible. >> no doubt. i know gay and i share your enthusiasm for george. no doubt he had a flare for the theater cal from the physical se this guy was straight out of casting. unfortunately we're about out of time. just one more question. i could sit here all day. the eternal fascination we have with the founders. to what do you attribute this eternal longing for the founders? joe ellis and i spoke and you alluded at the beginning of your remarks while new england may have this myfigu

madison says, i have to confess, i am in love with jimmy madison. he is my boyfriend. i am one of the madisonettes. my heartbeats through for jimmy. there was a woman named dolly payne todd who had good taste from north carolina. what did madison say in the federalist papers? what is government itself of the greatest of all reflections on human nature? it means you are not going to get something perfect the people right. if men were angels, no government would be necessary. he is the practical person and a philosopher. he wants to make this work for real people who have real flaws, and is trying to create a mechanism that will ameliorate that is much as we can. i have to confess, too, i don't like alexander hamilton all that much. [laughter] ms. monk: he has the best of all musicians writing for him, everybody is going for him. he wanted to be an emperor, and if it hadn't been for people like madison, he might have got there. but i still would give him my money to invest for me. the argument hamilton makes is the constitution doesn't need a bill of rights. he says, we'

madison -- jefferson is trying to convince madison, he says a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, and what no just government should refuse or rest on inference. the federalists say you don't need a bill of rights and jefferson is saying you have to have a bill of rights. medicine is always practical. he will eventually dropped the bill of rights. he says repeated violations of these parchment barriers have been committed by overbearing majorities in every state. seat to theg tyranny against the baptists who are persecuting minorities in virginia, and they prominent in orange county where he lives. baptistso see how the are oppressed. they were getting oppressed by the established church, the anglican which becomes the episcopal church come in they realized, we don't want to give government this power one way or the other. saying it is a paper tiger and will not make any difference. the federalists who want the constitution to go through the because oh my gosh, if we start changing anything, what is going to happen? look how hard it was to get

i think madison was his own man. >> my question was also going to be about madison. in some of your previous writings you have not held quite a high opinion of him. i wondered, in the course of writing this book and seeing what hamilton adds through the federalist papers and jefferson serving as a mentor. did your opinion of madison change at all over the course of the years? really.rling: not my problem with madison i think i guess it was probably just some of his thoughts leading to the constitution. i think there were other solutions that were available without going as far as he went. that was my problem with madison, primarily. but no, my views didn't really change that much. [laughter] >> do you think that jefferson was particularly disloyal to washington when he was secretary of state, and doing things to oppose washington? and the other thing is what do , you think about the book, the hemmings of monticello? i think edng: gordon-reed wrote a fine book, i don't have any particular problems. i am wary of accepting madison hemmings of story completely. i mean, b

he is implying that james madison, who is recognized as the leader of this faction, that james madison, the father of the constitution is an anti-federalist. meanwhile, madison and jefferson engaged in their own branding effort. they decided to call their own faction the republicans. in the 18th century, if you are not a republican, them what must you be? a monarchist. they were suggesting that hamilton, as well as john adams, that adams and hamilton, and other members of the faction were actually monarchist at heart. they were counter revolutionists. they wanted to reinstate a government that mirrored that of great britain. jefferson inadvertently ended up saying that in public. in france, thomas jefferson's friend tom payne. he writes common sense, he writes the crisis, the american revolution comes to a conclusion, then he goes to france. he does not want to miss on the french revolution. he is one of those guys in the midwest who chases tornadoes around. payne writes a book called the rights of man. james madison thinks it should be published in the united states. he wants his frie

the right place. >> madison is in the back.lace to be if it crashes, we're all about to die. >> shut up. >> they're going into the sky and everyone is having a grand old time. checking out the views and seeing the city from different angles and they head out over the ocean. and suddenly everything changes. >> route 66, what's happening? [ alarm sounds ] >> watch out! >>. [ alarm ] >> we're going down! >> even i feel bad for madison, because listen to this scream. >> that is wrong. that is wrong. >> she's terrified. >> no! >> there's a little puddle on the floor. >> he tries to pick it up. >> madison -- >> there are tears everywhere. >> do you blame her? >> that's funny. >> stop that. >> i'm sure she's fine with it. >> see? >>> that's the end of our show for now, but rightthisminute.com has a lot more to keep you entertained. or just catch us on the next episode of "right this minute"! >>> tonight, president trump calls it a military operation on the border. the immigration crackdown. but his own homeland security secretary, gen

madison and rights e that a bill of which mr. madison called a not ment partition would stop a government from doing whatever it wanted or needed to time of war and i think as one looks at the quasi france in 1798 to 1800, the passing of the alien and sedition acts which laws i did not support or favor violated entirely the bill of rights. the government took it upon do it and it did it. governments will always do that when they feel threatened. they will remove these parchment walls. > but what has separated us from the people who have come forward? from the constitutions that have come before? may be in legends certain people who have written constitutions but we're not sure who, we know who wrote this constitution and the fact that rules down, the rules by which the government must abide. wrote that down at the beginning. our wise men gathered together discussed coolly their nformed educated rational concerns and planned a government based upon their experience, knowledge, and ages.dge of the this set us apart from all history

look at what madison says in 1800. if the decisions of the judiciary be raised above the authority of the sovereign parties to the constitution, who are the sovereign parties of the constitution? let's say it like that, why don't we? if the decisions of the judiciary be raised above the authority of the states, dangerous powers, not delegated, may not only be usurped and executed by other departments, but that they judicial department also may exercise or sanction dangerous powers beyond the grants of the constitution. consequently, the ultimate right of the parties to the constitution, who are ?? , the ultimate right of the states to judge whether the compact has been violated must extend to violations but one delegated authority as well as by another. madison is reminding us of some very important facts. number one the states created the constitution. number two, the states created the federal government. when the states created the federal government, they created three branches of federal government. the legislativ

look at what madison says in 1800. if the positions of the judiciary be raised about the sovereign parties to the constitution, who arconstitutioe sovereign parties of the constitution? so let's say it like that. if the positions of the judiciary be raised about the authority of the states, dangerous powers not delegated may not only be executed by other departments, but the judicial department also may exercise or sanctioned dangerous powers not granted by the constitution. potentially, the ultimate right of the parties to the constitution who are the ultimate right of the state to suggest whether the compact has been violated must extend to the violations by one delegated authority as well as by and another can of the judiciary and as was th well as the executiver legislative. madison is reminding us of some very important facts. number one, the state created institution. number two, the states created the federal government. when the states created the federal government, they created three branches of federal gover

they are getting their clocks cleaned by jefferson and madison and monroe. so they have been politically outmaneuvered. again, i will say this for betteron, he was a much street politician in a sense. and a much better political tactician by far than hamilton and they constantly outmaneuvered federalists. hamilton was hoping to create this christian constitutionalist society as a grassroots network to check the jeffersonians, but i think it was too late in the game. so in my view hamilton was spent , politically by 1804. i think he kind of knew that too. i think part of the reason he challenged, or he accepted the dual, was this was his last patriotic act. he's going to finish burr. i think he had a pretty good sense that he might die out there across the river here. and that that would finish ehrenberg -- aaron burr. hamilton was going to throw away his shot, this would be burr's last shot. it did finish him politically. so i just see hamilton as a spent force by 1804. without reading the entire piece or speaking with joanne freeman, that is as far as i can

of course, madison, james madison, helped alexander hamilton hamm by 3 years, and as we now know, he actually goes back and doctors some of the notes that he took from the constitution convention to make hamilton look bad. this same desire to sort of belittle and besmirch hamilton's reputation continues the pace throughout the democratic party in the 19th century. andrew jackson, for instance, believed that hamilton was the tribune of the moneyed aristocracy. of course, jackson begins to see, or comes to see the bank of the united states and nicholas as the sort of personification of all that was wrong with alexander hamilton. and jackson plays that, i would call sort of the class card to the hit, and hamilton is a key figure in terms of appealing to populist sensibilities in terms of generating animus towards the bank of the united states. during the american civil war, you briefly see a kind of surrection of hamilton's reputation, his anti-slavery stance, his strong nationalism appeals certainly to many in the north and the new republican party, especially future presidents such as

they are getting their clocks cleaned by jefferson and madison and monroe. they have been politically outmaneuvered. jefferson was a much better and muchlitician better political tactician by far than hamilton and they constantly outmaneuvered federalists. hamilton was hoping to create this christian constitutionalist society as a grassroots network to check the jeffersonians, but i think it was too late in the game. in my view hamilton was spent politically by 1804. i think he kind of knew that too. one of the reasons he accepts the duel with burr is this is his last patriotic act. he's going to finish burr. he had a good sense he would across the river and that would finish ehrenberg. hamilton was going to throw away his shot, this would be burr's last shot. it did finish him politically. forcehamilton as a spent by 1804. that's about as far as i can take it. have hamilton witnessed the war of 1812, he would have told them i told you so. you have to make strong military and a national bank to fund a war. you can't just talk about war and declare war and no

every one of those examples of madison flip-flopping is an example where madison is talking about nullification from a different context. ever heard of the phrase context is king? one of the examples they'll give you is this one. mod madson is speaking to the house of representatives during the ratification debate nor bill of rights, trying to assert the bill of rights will be safely inserted into? constitution because the court will be in a unique position to guard our rights. there was an argument with' put in the constitution and bill of rights a list of rights that the federal government would use that list against us. that someone in government, as hamilton skypes, disposed to usurp our rights, would simply allege that through the list, we have created an authority of the federal government to regulate our rights. it's not on the list. since it's not on the list we must have want federal government to regulate it or it would be on the list of right. if it's on the list of rights, how do we know what is? we'll do you a favor. we'll define the rights for you so we don't usurp or infringe or

there was one particular chapter, a vignette that took place between thomas jefferson and james madison and alexander hamilton. place as atook result of something that was going on in congress in 1790. it was a difficult and challenging issue called the assumption bill. the colonies came out of the war. there was tremendous debt that the states had incurred and could not pay the debt and alex ander hamilton had a great idea, that the government should assume that debt and pay it off on behalf of the states. that caused people like thomas jefferson and james madison to be concerned about the role of this federal government and the newfound responsibilities that it might have and so there was in tractability around some important issues, the role between the federal government and states. sounds a little like today. and they did something that doesn't happen very much today, they actually got together. they actually spent time together. in this environment that we live in this country today it is a very -- forgive the reference, but it is a very toxic environment. we have jerseys we put o

major drama at madison square garden last night.in a physical altercation with security. you can see oakley pushing and shoving security guards as they tried to remove them from msg. he was charged with three counts of assault, one count of criminal trespass. he was released with an appearance ticket at the next issued a statement saying that oakley was asking in an abusive manner. oakley denies he did anything wrong. meanwhile, actually a game going on on the cord between the knicks and the clippers. the second quarter to blake gray said by three. let's go to third-quarter carmelo anthony. goes for the layout. fourth-quarter n tied at 109. throws down huge jam. tied at 111. jamal crawford trails a big-time trade and nails it. clippers at brca1/2 in the game one night team-115. let's go to milwaukee. red hot miami heat taking on the bus. john s. and a with a dunk. they are down by nine. go into the third quarter, james johnson drives down the lane, makes a layup. up 18 after the free throw. they win their 12th in a row. dump of the

you type in james madison.he papers of the main founders, the madison papers, the hamilton papers. they have their own collections. they are edited by experts so they're all these footnotes. they will tell you what they're referring to when you make some offhand reference. it's just unbelievable the luxury of having all this stuff. one of the many privileges is i get all these eager, talented students who want to do work so they collect letters. they checked my sources. i am quoting a lot of stuff. they make sure i haven't butchered the quote what i transcribed notes. it's just a luxury to have stuff. stuff. i didn't travel at all. it's all available on your laptop because university of virginia digitized this documentary history spirit can i follow up on that course i have some worries about that, that is what has been digitized over my are printing sources, and the papers of the founders in the rotunda, the database mike was talking about is incredible for research. but that means people i'm worried, going to

and east county road around madison avenue.ere on 76 at gloucester city, this is market street, traffic is moving off here. no big problems. >> jessica, thank you. >>> now to breaking news that we're following out of smyrna, delaware. right now, inmates are holding two prison workers hostage at the james vaughn prison center in smyrna. the situation has been playing out since 10:30 yesterday morning. nbc10's matt delucia is live at the prison. tell us what's happening there? >> reporter: we're about hitting that 18-hour mark, tracy. from where we are, everything looks quiet. and everything is very much busy. and things are still going on inside that building "c" where this hostage situation is unfolding. i'm going to step out of the way. just way beyond here, you can't really get a good glimpse from this view. that is where everything is happening. take a look at video. skyforce 10 was overhead. it shows inmates being held out of that james vaughn corrections facility. again, this started since 10:30 yesterday morning. this has

madison. you know, i won't play a game because i wanted to go back to ft.on. >> but his participation in the program required him to meet the sister of one of the officers he murdered. >> i was scared. you know, because we be under the illusion they'll come and scream and cuss us out. i'm sitting down and i'm scared. you know, i'm saying, i'm truly scared so first thing she asked me she said why you kill my brother. i didn't have no reason. you know, she said, well, did you kill my brother because he was a police. i said no. we broke down. you know, we cried. you know, we cried, you know, because she said, you know, she said i hate you. she said i wish you was dead. you know. and it was hard for me because all this time i been the one that was in control and she took that control and i couldn't like attack her or nothing like that. you know what i mean. that wasn't even in my mind but i didn't have control of the situation. she took control of the situation. she asked me could i be forgaven. i said, no. she said, well, i'm going to forgive you know what i'm

to declare madison to be corrected. he said continuing in federalist 45 reserved to the federal states. it does not mean a few but separate. would extend to all. what does that mean? i think that begs the question of clarity so as long as we are still in agreement that extends to all the objects with the ordinary course of affairs to concerned of lives and liberties and properties of the people the internal order and prosperity of the state's. what about the fda and blm? property of the people? the lives of the people. the department of energy the internal order in prosperity of the state's. in the father of the constitution says these are not powers delegated to the federal government but reserved to the states. why is power reserve? so that the state's can retain the integrity of the constitution to maintain the federal government in the few and defined authorities in 1830 many of the things we're experiencing today of a federal government and states trying to push that back people are thinking the federal government

madison square garden tonight, knicks-clippers. former knick great charles oakley forcibly removed from the building and he was arrested. oakley was apparently unhappy by his treatment by the franchise and refused to stop when asked. it got physical. it took about five or six guards to remove him from the garden. >>> the eagles relief quarterback played for one season for the birds. we'll be right back after this. >>> the amount of snow in a short period of time is the real difference maker here. >> an unusual storm because of the fact that it's moving so fast, and the heavy snow is only going to last for a few hours. but during that period of time, during the morning rush, that's when conditions get really bad. you can see a large area, 6 to 10 inches north of pennsylvania turnpike, 4 to 8 inches around trenton and wilmington area, to the south more of it will be rain. higher temperatures causing more melting. conditions will improve dramatically during the afternoon. >> we're on early at 4:00 a.m. be sure to have the app. >>> tha

he asked james madison to look at a medicine says you can't say that, take it out. the fact that he put it in shows how conscious people were that he was a kind of king. i think he played that role as a surrogate monarch to these people who had been reared in monarchy. republicanism was new to them. he eased us, if you will, interpublic and is by behaving scrupulously as a republican president but playing the role that the people wanted, of a monarch that made the new government acceptable to hosts of people who were frightened of it. both as commander in chief and as president, he was indispensable. there is no doubt that he alone and jefferson admitted this, saved the revolution,. made it possible, -- saved the revolution, made it possible. [applause] >> i know we share your enthusiasm for george or g-wish -- g-wash, as my son calls him. who doubt he had a flair for the trip -- for the theatrical from the physical size to the clothes he wore. unfortunately, we are about out of time. one more question. haveternal fascination we with the founders. two what do you at

thomas jefferson, john adams, james madison and so many more.

and banned from madison square garden. >> oakley was accused of acting inappropriately by the knickswner but yesterday the two met with the commissioner to smooth things over. even michael jordan was involved in the talks over the phone. dolan invited oakley back to the garden signaling an end to the ban against him. >> apparently the commissioner and michael jordan will now be involved in middle east peace plan because they've already had success bringing those two sides together. now historic hoops. >> let's check in with our guys at espn. >> good morning, america. stan, neil. >> uconn looking for win number 100. imagine coaching teenagers and young adults and keeping this emfocused to get 100 wins. that's what geno done at uconn. gabby williams had 26. williams with the deflection. and uconn wins, 100 in a row and beat south carolina 66-55. >>> kansas a top ranked team in the country lost at morgantown. was down 14 with just under three minutes to go. people were headed to the wheel. check it out, navi and the whole deal getting a burger and kansas went on a huge run. frank mason,

james madison, george wils masod others were some of the brightest people. mason hated traveling from fairfax, virginia but showed up in philadelphia. george washington wasn't sure if he would go. he decided if the country needed him he would go to filled. the idea of public service by the most talented people -- there is this old explanation by charles beard written that the framers were lining their pockets and wanted federal government that could evade taxes to pay off the government debt at face value and they would enrich themselves. they have a vision of what is good government and economic policy. that vision comes from their status as elite, fairly well off, fairly well educated people. there is a big difference of opinion between elites and non-elites about the best way to do things. we need more people like tat going into the government. >> patrick, similar question. i see your project trying to draw out new narratives from the american revolution and what might be some of the main things you want to draw out from this scholarship? >> i guess it de

that alexander hamilton had they were able to work out a solution and if you don't know, james ma madison and thomas jefferson said we'll let it go forward in congress, but in exchange we want something, we want to move to the shores of potomac, and we had it largely because of a dinner that took place between those three gentlemen. i share that for these three reasons frars principals as we do our work and journey together. one, they led, they actually found solutions they worked to be problem sol vervesolvers, the will do our work and find an answer, and as we do our work here we deal with very important monument monumental issues with respect to our environment. secondly, i think this is in sort supply in this country today, they acted with civility, it is something i believe in very much. we ought to be able to get together and wrestle through some very difficult issues and do so in a civil manner. we ought to be able to be thoughtful in exchange ideas and debate and make sure we do find answers to these problems but do so with civility, i think that was kpemly fied with our founding

james madison the first term, alexander hamilton the second term. the words are mostly hamilton's but the ideas are all washington. >> rose: broad, kunhardt and avalon when we continue. >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: eli broad is here. he is one of the world's most prominent philanthropists. the "new yorker" magazine called him the domenicci of los angeles. the broad opened in september of 2015 as the downtown show case for his contemporary art collection. the fourth art museum broad conceived and brought to fruition. next month he marks the tenth anniversary of the three stem cell companies. they have invested $600 million in public education. pleased to have him at this table. >> good to be back. >> rose: here you are with these twin passions, many passions, but twin passions -- science on the one hand and art on the other hand. >> and education in between. >> rose: and education in b

>> rose: the scandal was one big reason there was never a president hamilton. >> jefferson & madisonake sense in the context of our time, with our music. >> rose: we spoke last fall with some of miranda's most important collaborators: former cast- members leslie odom, jr.; renee elise goldsberry; daveed diggs; philippa soo; and chris jackson. what is it that connects? what are you hearing? what is it that's resonating in these audiences? >> christopher jackson: there's so many different things happening in this story that it's almost impossible to peg, i think, it's just the music, or it's just the movement, or it's the lights, or it's the staging. and it could be any number of those things. or all of those things. >> rose: these are good female roles too, aren't they? >> renee elise goldsberry: yes, they are. one of the things that's exciting to me about playing angelica schuyler and feeling so powerful and knowing the time that we live in, with hillary running for president-- we get to show who the founding mothers are and what they did. they were not just sewing flags. they were a

if god were in the details, madison would be there to greet him upon arrival. he is the lawyer's founder, and he thinks like a lawyer, but he was not trained to p a lawyer. you the tell me who the client is, and i will prepare the case. and jefferson would tell him who the client is, and in the tandem of jefferson and madison, the single-most important partnership of the founding era. finally, alexander hamilton. hamilton is the smartest, and the prodigy and the highest grades on the lsats and the most dangerous. if you let jefferson go, we become slightly or almost an anarchy. and if you letm hamilton go, we are at risk of becoming the totalitarian dictatorship. and therefore there is one thing present in this mix that you should notice. it is a diverse group of people. diverse intellectually and ideologically. that washington is prix ma s-- primacentor positive, and if you are looking at the system of checks and balances in describing the constitution, there is an inherent check and balance in the collective leadership in the founding. they argue with each ot

if god were in the details, madison would be there to greet him upon arrival. he's the lawyer's founder. he thinks like a lawyer, even though he was never trained like a lawyer. you tell me what my client, who it is, and i will prepare the case. jennifer will tell him who his client is. and the tandem of jefferson and madison are the single most important partnership in the founding era. finally, alexander hamilton. hamilton's probably the smartest. he's the prodigy. he would have got the highest grades on the lsats. he's also the most dangerous. if you let jefferson go, we become slightly or almost an anarchy. if you let hamilton go, we're at risk of becoming a totalitarian dictatorship. and therefore there's one thing present in this mix that you should notice. it's a diverse group of people. diverse intellectually and ideologically. that the founding -- well, washington is primus inter parros, as i said. the founding is a collective achievement. and while we're familiar with the doctrine of checks and balances as a way of describing the constitution, there i

madison gesiotto. he's happy to be here, and that his parents didn't name him michael.edian and -- david angelo. he was born to be a republican, i mean, his name is rich. rich lowry. and his book is called "follow that car." sitting right next to me, comedian jimmy failla. okay, let's start the show. ♪ the leaks are real. the news is fake. i'm getting that tattooed on my thigh. on thursday in his first solo press conference, president trump addressed the damaging leaks information about his administration. >> are these fake news or real news question works because leaks are absolutely real, the news is fake. >> tom: earlier in the day, the president had tweeted it -- later, he talked about how he would root out those wretches. >> i've gone to all of the folks in charge of the agencies and i've actually called the justice department to look into the leaks. those are criminal leaks. >> tom: his eagerness to track down the leaks comes after national security advisor michael flynn was forced to resign this week. there is much, much more to get to in his press conference, le

we have an accident in warminster county line road and madison avenue damage pole as well. we are looking at sensors, we are looking all green, everyone still traveling clearly at posted speed. another accident new jersey turnpike, on ramp to route 206 , head up we have a couple things coming up on to our maps. jim, back over to you. >>> well, we are following breaking news this morning as authorities in new castle county's james t vaughn correctional center continue to negotiate release of hostages held by inmates. >> "eyewitness news" reporter trang do is live in smyrna where situation is still happening right now, trang, good morning, what can you tell us. >> reporter: good morning, yes , very tense here as inmates have two prison staff members hostage, they released two correctional officers yesterday, overnight 14 inmates were also released from that building and they are being held, elsewhere on this facility. but look at this video we shot yesterday over this scene here this all started just after 10:30 a.m. when inmates took four prison staff members hostage this bu

: hamilton's combative nature made him monumental enemies, including presidents adams, jefferson, madison a starring role. burr becomes your narrator? >> lin-manuel miranda: yes. >> rose: because you need, what? >> lin-manuel miranda: well, one, i need balance. hamilton would be y >> rose: in paragraphs and paragraphs. >> lin-manuel miranda: in paragraphs and paragraphs. and also, burr is the mirror image of hamilton. he's also orphaned at a young age. speeds through college. speeds through princeton in two years. starts at 13. age 13. >> rose: just as smart as hamilton? >> lin-manuel miranda: just as smart as hamilton. but every time hamilton says go, burr says stop. he's just cautious. >> aaron burr: hamilton doesn't hesitate. >> rose: burr was originally played by leslie odom, jr. >> burr: ♪ he takes and he takes and he takes ♪ and he keeps winning anyway changes the game ♪ plays and raises the stakes and if there's a reason ♪ he seems to thrive and so few survive ♪ then goddamit i'm willing to wait for it! ♪ i'm willing to wait for it! >> rose: miranda explores the rivalry between bur

i think the most boring would be madison. madison just doesn't tell you anything. what do you want to hear? i'll give it to you. >> well the descriptions of him are also not very -- the great little madison. >> always the guy standing in the corner of the room. that's -- that doesn't do justice to the power of his mind. >> brilliant man, right. >> the person i would have the toughest time with is jefferson. again, i spent seven, eight years working on him. and i won the national book award for this. and i wasn't supposed to win. there was another person. >> great tiling for the book, american sphinx, trying to figure him out. >> i went down and accepted the thing and i said my wife ellen told me i should never write this book because i don't really like jefferson. well, take that, ellen. [ laughter ] it's not that i don't like him. it's that i don't respect him. he's due policitious. is hypocritical. and his reputation depends on accepting the lyrical quality of his prose. and he is the best -- well, franklin is the best writer. but he is right up there. and all th

. >>> we'll catch up with giants ace madison baumgartner. >> michael flynn out after weeks. the fallout and lake of truss we are hearing about on capitol hill all coming up next here on the four on two. >> national security advisor michael flynn has resigned after a month. the white house says the retired general misled the president about talks with russian's ambassador. as lauren blandard reports the white house insists that his actions were not illegal. reporter: michael flynn out of a job after misleading the vice president. the white house saying general flynn one of the president's closest advisors was asked by president trump to step down because he no longer felt confident infliction. not because he believed flynn's breach in protocol was illegal. >> we got to a a point of a trust area that had erroded that there was a change. >> some republicans are saying that general flynn may need to testify and democrats smelling blood and calling for an independent investigation into flynn's actions and his conditions to the russian. >> there was no oversight of president trump

all interesting and i think the most boring would be madison. madison just doesn't tell you everything. what do you want to hear? i will give it to his -- give it to you. >> the descriptions are always the great, little madison. >> that doesn't do justice to the power of his mind. the person i would have the toughest time with his jefferson . i spent seven or eight years working on him and i won the national book award for this. i wasn't supposed to win. >> great -- great title of the book "american sphinx." >> i went down and accepted the thing and i said my wife ellen told me i should never write this book because i don't really like jefferson. well, take that, ellen. [laughter] don't like them, it's that i don't respect them. he is duplicitous. hiss hypercritical and reputation depends on accepting the lyrical quality of this prose and franklin is the best writer, but he has up there. -- he is up there. all these people are world-class letterwriters, a lost art. for reasons that are there in sphinx, -- "american jefferson is always going to d

james madison worked on the first draft of the end of the first term.xander hamilton to get on in the second term. the ideas are all washington's. charlie: tell me about the relationship between hamilton and george washington. guest: it's fascinating. it's rooted in the revolutionary war, when hamilton is a young officer who hamilton to get on n the second term. the ideas are all washington's. is in charge of this correspondence. over that period, they form a mind meld about the philosophy of the new republic they wish to enact, and really influenced by the fact that the continental congress was so weak and ineffectual and they were so chronically short of money at all times, but it did reinforce -- that it did reinforce the need for a strong, centralized, energetic government, and the need for fiscal discipline and responsibility, that fiscal an order could kill an army in war and kill a country in peace. charlie: you quote thomas jefferson on george washington. the moderation and virtue of a single character probably prevented this revolution from bei

liz: guess who is not with madison square garden.has been banned for life from walking into madison square garden for the rest of his life. former knicks player charles oakley banned for life. he got into fight two nights ago with madison square garden security. he was cuffed and arrested. he was apparently in expensive seats right near msg executive chair james dolan. had some words. he was calling him names and then i guess he was asked to leave. we should rewind that tape. >> liz, i had dinner -- liz: you had dinner with him. >> i had dinwer oakley three weeks ago. he couldn't have been a nicer guy. he is a gentleman. that is the last guy you want to put your hands on. i am telling you this guy is solid as a rock. liz: my goodness. what is this about? so he has been banned for life. >> they hate each other. he and dolan hate each other. goes back a long time. who knows what is started. oakley is friend of mine. he is an acquaintance i like. he is good friend of a friend of mine. i like oakley. but i can't believe someone would act

accident madison avenue, in hatboro.amp 206 northbound, watch for crews on the scene with that one. crews on the turnpike southbound at exit 2, they are blocking the right lane, that will be out there until noon today. >> the chairman of boss -- boscov's is suffering from late stage cancer. he sent a letter to employees yesterday informing them of his diagnosis, but nises typical fashion he thanked them. >> with business news at the big board, and we talk about this all the time, how much people love bacon. there's proof that believe bacon makes it better. demand for bacon depleted supplies to a record low in december. the century is boosting reduction so the prices will stabilize by the time we get to the summer. >>> half a million t-mobile customers are getting a refund check, this is part of a settlement reached with the carrier for cramming, that's when customers find third party charges added to their bill. >>> let's look markets this morning, the major stock indices saw gains. the dow was up 20 points, futures are

at madison high school.een looking forward to it all yearlong. >> it is compared to homecoming for wrestling. we turn off the lights in the gym and just have that one spotlight over the top of the mat. it lights up the whole match and the gym is packed full of kids. >> the madison daily leader, a local news outlet is streaming the event live on its website. michael's mother, heather, is up in the stands. >> i love watching michael wrestle. this was my chance to get to see him under the lights. >> in her excitement, she can't imagine her son facing anything more menacing than an opponent. michael and his competitor step on to the mat. >> the ref says go and we start wrestling. and he got a takedown on me. we were close to the edge of the mat. >> the wrestlers need to reset. >> when you go out of bounds, you go back to the middle of the mat and start in referee's position which is where you go on your hands and knees and the other person comes on top of you. >> michael gets in to position, but before his oppon

police on the scene county line road at madison avenue look for that. on the commuter traffic report i found someone on the waze app talking about a pothole aspen street. it's 22 in martins creek. 32 in pottstown. we were seeing flurries in the north and west. but it's dry. 38 degrees in center city. new knowledge, 32 in violented. 38 in dover -- vined, 38 -- vineland, 38 in dover. >>> albert bosscov is suffering from late stage cancer. he sent a letter to employees informing him of his diagnosis. in his typical business first fashion, he began the letter by thanking them for the latest earning results. >>> former exxon chief rex tillerson has been sworn in another cabinet pick has lost supporters from two senators from maine and alaska could not vote for devos. if all others support her, it would mean a 50/50 tie. mike pence could break the tie. >>> a special invitation was a >>> philip was sidelined from playing on the girls team. she fought to play on the boy's team. the judge sided with the school saying there was no legal foundation for phillips ca