is fascism. modern progressivism is more like fascism and socialism because they think about let's look at obamacare. obamacare does the government on the hospital's? no. is saddam the doctors directly? no, they are private companies that do that but the government controls them so progressivism being state-directed capitalism is more fascism than socialism. let's go you spend quite a bit of time with benito mussolini. >> guest: many link fascism with hitler but hitler never call himself a fascist. if you read my book the word fascism almost never enters. hitler wanted to marry -- hitler was a racist. hitler was an anti-semite and he made this anti-semitism and bigotry a central part of national socialism. mussolini was not a racist. mussolini ultimately will represent pure fascism and mussolini came to power in the 1920s. hitler came to power in 1933. hitler revered mussolini. hitler said mussolini is the last of the seas are so if you look for fascism at the beginning at its point of origin you

how do you fight fascism while doing fascism stuff? >> why do you think that since world war ii as you say we have considered fascism nazi on the right? >> the fascism in the 30's was very much in bed with the left and in fact, when -- here is a small tip, when fdr came to power, he did not admire hitler but revered mussolini. fdr felt that mussolini was ahead of him. fdr would dispatch allegations to italy to bring it here. all of this is the actual history of our country. after world war ii, the gas chambers, auschwitz. they became associated with the holocaust and progressives were coming to dominate the academy, whoa, this is bad fuse, -- news. if people associate the left with fascism, we are through. you need to be dominant if academia and in the media, in other words, you have to be able to pull off a big lie and the big lie of fascist that was promulgated by hitler. people can catch a small lie because they can compare it to their experience, but if you give them a big lie it's really hard to get your head around it. it's so bi

therefore fascism is on the left. is really not a right-wing movement. fascism controls people. notice how the anti-fascists also want to control. they will introduce themselves, even in a violent way, as was on display in berkeley, california. you see this movement trying to impugn the right. the neo-nazis are actually left wing. national socialist party. that is left-wing. somethingf words is the public is to be very careful on in discerning how language is being used because the anti-fascists are left-wing, and the fascism is left-wing as well. the anti-fascists are those on the right who support the constitution. who want the free market. who believe in equal justice for all, not equal outcomes for all. guest: thank you for that. i can save the history of fascism that there is no credible historian who believes fascism is a left-wing ideology. than a debate is whether fascism is a right-wing all the elegy -- right-wing ideology. early fascists may claim to be the true socialists and argued national socialism could essentially you socialist principles in the interest of the n

not season is fascism plus anti-semitism. the fascism in viewed with a deep vein of racism.that's a distinguishing feature of nazi germany. >> were taken your calls as we discuss this book. with us for about the next 35 minutes, republicans and independents can call we have robert on the phone. good morning. >> good morning, i'm retired military. i'm appalled because i've watched it many times on his favorite channel for him to send the last, i'm a winter worrier, for him just sand the left that it spewed hatred, ice or 20 for years, i didn't see that many americans in the military might 24 years. but for him, you get on television and continue to make money off of the backs of all the lies especially about this honorable and dignified man called barack obama and continue to support this lawyer chief we have an office who built his whole career after denigrating that honorable man. he is the one that has created havoc on our country with his lies, with his racism, with all the separate stuff is doing now. and you know what, you do the same thing. >> we have your point. >> i

fascism placenta semitism. fascism in butte with a deep vein, that's a distinguishing feature. >> host: were taking your calls as we discuss this book and recent events of the past couple of days your with us for the next 35 minutes. you can call in will start with robert on the phone from clearwater, florida. good morning. >> good morning, i'm retired military. i'm just appalled because i've watched you many times and fox all the time. infer you to say on the left, i'm a wounded warrior, for him to send the left dispute hatred, serve 24 years, i didn't see that many americans in the military may 23 years. but for him to get on television and continue to make money off the backs of all of the lives, especially this honorable, dignified man called barack obama, and continue to support this lawyer and chief we have an office who built his whole career of denigrating that honorable man. he is the man who has created havoc on our country with his lies, with his racism, with all of this stuff he's doing now. do you

or fascism? dinesh: i am talking about the guys that wear costumes and they carry bricks as weapons. if i show up on campus, it is not surprising to have these dudes to block me from speaking. it is not like the campus is represented by conservative viewpoints, many times young people do not know what conservatives want to conserve.. if you want to squeeze that point of view, i come on monday and i leave on tuesday. this is a fascist tactic. paradoxically, it is carried out in the name of anti-fascism. i am faulting those that justify extreme rhetoric and use it to legitimize otherwise unwarranted behavior. i am not saying every democrat is a hate speech monger. host: george in florida. on the line for republicans. caller: good morning. i think it is all obstructionism. i do not think they have a thing with president trump that is with sticking to a grand jury. if they say it enough, people will not see the follow-up story and believe what they heard initially. i want to ask you one question, ple

knew it fascism was that they said fascism has always been on the left. we need to move it into the right-wing column. i am attacking at historical revisionism that moved it from the left-wing column. mussolini was a marxist. the leading socialist in italy. the nationalist socialist party. emphasized the socialism in national socialism, but the left has taken it out in a little bit of a whitewashing. host: good morning. caller: a few years ago i picked up a book. it was called "hitler's propaganda machine." it employed by the right leading up to the last election, probably the last 20 years with the conservative radio and confluence of fox news and big money put behind people. the big lie is one tells a lie that is so outrageous that no one would believe that you told the lie on purpose. then when that untruth is withdrawn the shadow of the lie remains. that is the playbook for the right in this country, the conservatives. they try to demonize barack obama. , i live in san diego. you had an up secure movie about president obama. articles a front-page abou

nazi system fascism plusemitism. antisemitism. fascism imbued with a deep vain of anti-semitism that is the drink feature of nazi germany. >> host: we'll take your calls about this book and recent pastt events. dinner? d'souza is with us. start with robert on the phone from clearwater, florida, line for democrats. robert about, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i'm retired military and, i'm just appalled at this gentleman right here because i watched him, many times on his favorite channel, fox un-american c spewwise news, all the time. for him to say on the left, i mean i'm a wounded warrior, for him to say, that the left spews hatred, i served 24 years. i didn't see that many indian-americans in the military, in my 24 years from '83 to 2007. not many of them, but for him to get on television and continue to make money off the backs of all of the lies that he spews, especially about honorable, dignified man called barack obama, once married, and continue to support this liar in chief we have in office who built his whole car

somehow comes from the right is very misleading fascism is the ideology of the centralized state. i'm saying the not only was mostly me a left wing about mussolini considered himself a left winger even the people who criticize mussolini called him a left winger when mousseline needed is a march on roman one nine hundred twenty two lenin sent him a letter a telegram of congratulations why because lenin understood that mussolini was a fellow revolutionary of the left but wasn't hitler and mussolini. opponents of communism yes they were but let's remember that sometimes ideologies that are quite similar get into very bitter fights remember larry the catholics and the protestants fought bitterly even though they are both within the house of christendom the she on the sunni will go and fight bitter a battle is even though they're both within the house of islam so sometimes you can be on the same side of the aisle but fight over power or mine or doctrinal differences nevertheless the fact that naziism and fascism and socialism went to war does not mean that they don't have a lot in comm

no but i think that the i think that the ideology and the economic policy of fascism has always been on the left let's remember that hitler was a national socialist he changed the name of the german workers' party to the national socialist german workers' party miscellany was a marxist and a lifelong socialist so this whole concept that fascism somehow comes from the right is very misleading fascism is the ideology of the centralized state you're saying mussolini. i'm saying the not only was mostly me a left wing about mussolini considered himself a left winger even the people who criticize mussolini called him a left winger when mousseline needed is a march on roman one nine hundred twenty two lenin sent him a letter a telegram of congratulations why because lenin understood that mussolini was a fellow revolutionary of the left that wasn't hitler and mussolini. opponents of communism yes they were but let's remember that sometimes ideologies that are quite similar get into very bitter fights remember larry the catholics and the protestants fought bitterly even though they are both w

because of that reason, people ago fascism in terms of all or nothing, regime or nothing.e can see in charlottesville, in and out of neo-nazi organizing or the .ascist president -- present is heather heyer paid the price. they argue that fascism must be nested in a but from the beginning that any kind of organizing needs to be confronted and responded to even if people are spending most of their time making jokes on twitter, it is still serious and needs to be confronted. interesting talk -- during the south carolina protest against the white supremacists, there were flags fightingicans in spain franco. >> right. one of the most iconic moments in anti-fascist history is the spanish civil war. from an international perspective, the brigades. they came from around the world to stand up to franco's forces. yet the support of mussolini's italy and the nazis. book, thereed in my were a lot of problematic aspects. if we look at the role of the international brigades, we can see that anti-fascists view their struggle as transnational entrance historical. anay, if you go to anti-f

it's about fascism, pure and simple. a fascist was a rome bran bundle of sticks bound together so toothily that it could knock be broken. it couldn't break it the power of the common, the facist, that's where get the worst fascism. and today's mio fascism is likewise an unbreakable bundle of what? power. a group of people bound together so tightly and unbroken compliance no dissent no differences no diversity, it's the rule of the gang. it is unquestioned and unchallenged power. the call to arms of these modern day jacobons, you must submit. so the question we face today is whether or not we want to be ruled by the ideological fascism in our land or do we want to enjoy intellectual freedom? let me ask some questions just to point out headline. sure our government has the fewer force religious sin extra tim on its students -- tsunami -- on the citizens, students i suppose to, or do we have freedom to believe and behave by the dictates of our conscience, unimpeded by government hubris? some the government the of have fur '

us first things first from an economist's point of view how do you understand white supremacy and fascism how do they develop and how their reaction to specific economic conditions. yes i believe they are i believe if you go back to the nazi experience in germany the fascists in spain and italy that you will see a very strong relationship things like this are always caused by many factors but a very strong relationship between economic breakdown and collapse on the one hand and the desperate search that people go through to explain to them selves what's happening to them why they are losing their jobs why their income is declining why the prospects for their children are looking grim and difficult and in that process anybody who can come up with some plausible or even fantastical explanation kind of gets a hearing because people want to understand and the right wing folks with their conspiracy theories with their notion that immigrants or some ethnic minority or religious minority whatever you want these folks with the stories they tell begin to find an audience in economic hard times we

the left pursues the tactics of fascism, and they also have the ideology of fascism to boot.you know, this isn't the first time the left crossed the line with the attacks in a segment about conservative conference cpap. we have samantha b mocking an attendee saying his haircut resembled a nazi. samantha did apologize when she found out that this 20-year-old man had his head shaved because he was battling brain cancer. i want to get your thoughts on that because i want to move on to bernie sanders. what are your thoughts about that? >> well, i saw a very distinguished scholar of fascism. this is robert paxton of colombia university. and he says when he crosses his arms and looks to the left, this is a shallow mode of argumentation. it strips fascism of any meaning. it doesn't take seriously fascism as an ideology, and it ignores the long history of democratic party with fascism in the '20s and positive's. all covered up after world war ii. >> yeah. because your point is well taken. liz: bernie sanders is now ramping up the rhetoric calling them a right wing extremist party. le

in which anti-fascism continued to influence some in the united states. that was one of the reasons why some in the truman administration believed that not bolivians,iance with but also an alliance with bolivian communists would benefit the united states. if you're are still thinking along at that fascist lines, they are still a potential ally. the u.s. ambassador at the time actually came on to washington. it is a good thing for both bolivia and the u.s. that the communist party of bolivia is in a power-sharing relationship with the growing oligarchs. that is to say that the emergence of the cold war -- this has come up with the earlier papers, it did not immediately affect the way the jerk -- truman administration approached bolivia. war emergedcold with more intensity, the truman administration continue to view throughand its officers a moderately anti-fascists lends lens.ti-fascist the bitter hatred that manifested itself during this between the communist party and the mnr, the nationalist who were in exile and underground did provide a seed for a fut

high school the subject history is optional if people do not know history you can tell them that fascism is something completely different from what it really was if people don't know their own national history if they don't know the history of robert e. lee for example if they don't know the history of conscripted young men who were just marched straight into the gray uniform of the confederacy without any choice if they don't understand that this pitting that they're doing on their fellow americans is going to be happening on their own graves when somebody in the future doesn't know the history of this year and comes to spit on their. political analyst john bosnich thank you for joining us on r.t. and sharing your thoughts on the prospects of violence have forced one canadian university to cancel a discussion on stifling free speech sounds off to a backlash from left wing activists on social media they accuse the events of giving a platform to quote sit down through our turn to disrupt it with a massive rally liason university set down the discussions fighting safety concerns so who ar

honor freedom and fight fascism. stand for truth and fight tyranny stand for love and fight hate. stand for the rights of women and fight against their subjugation and sand for liberty and liberation fight. and remember the words of bonn who haver they mean something not to mean to act but act to act silence in the face of evil evil itself one more time not to speak is to speak not to act is to act. silence in the face of evil is evil itself. god will not hold us guiltless. there's a reason that jesus is described in the gospel of john. as what -- the word. the word. he means something. he can not be changed he's the logo he's the away, he's the truth, he's the lying he defines himself the alpha omega an alphabet jesus the son of god word made flesh and defined himself as an alphabet as a word. why? is -- why? remember his words you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. remember that he is the word made flesh. and dwelling among us remember that he's said behold i'm coming soon. may the word, the word be your confidence and your courage as you fight the good fight

what we saw was senseless violence committed in the name of naziism, fascism and in the name of trump reporter: what do you think about the president's remarks today? did that change your response >> not at all, an example of too little, too late. and again, an unwillingness to confront white supremacy directly, it's not about his ability to, it's about his unwillingness to. >> reporter: thanks for slowing down with us, i'm going to go you up here. this is the fastest walking group of protesters i have ever covered. but we're not going to let them get away too far. let me run up here. all right. what's your name? >> welch can van. >> reporter: what brought you out here today, what's the message you want to send to people >> that oath -- you have to choose the free speech, everybody has a right. you can use it to protect people or you can use it to hurt. and i think it's really important to stand up to everybody. >> reporter: what free speech are you alluding to? i mean, we got the issue of the protesters in charlottesville, but also, a big conversation about the president's response.

yvette felarca was caught on camera punching a demonstrator but she says standing up to fascism shouldn'ta crime. kpix 5's da lin reports. >> reporter: she made a brief appearance in the courtroom here. outside, she and her supporters are calling this case a witch hunt. they want the prosecutors to drop the charges. [ chanting ] >> reporter: a small vocal crowd rallies in support of the berkeley schoolteacher. >> drop the charges! stmefrom t fight at the state capital. yvette felarca's group, "by any means necessary," was protesting against a white nationalist group. a video shows felarca repeatedly punching a man. the man had both hands up, walking to a line of police officers for help. felarca and others dragged the man down and kicked him! prosecutors charged felarca with one count of felony assault and two misdemeanor counts of inciting and participating in a riot. felarca did not enter a plea today. her lawyers are still waiting for all the documents on the case. >> these charges are false against me. they should be dropped. >> reporter: she gave a short statement but did not answer

the resurgence of the old -right, there is actually relatively little written about postwar anti-fascism after world war ii. socialist, think the they fought against hitler and mussolini, but they know less about the second half of the story when self-defense groups were formed in britain and germany, among immigrants and leftists to defend themselves against the neo-nazi skinhead wave that was unleashed in response to waves of migration and how it moved over to the united states with the development of antiracist action. and it continued through today in the movement we are seeing now. host:, including the president have associated antifa with

fascism cannot be defeated through speech.tesville did give attention to white supremacy but it's not like your average american can name any of the groups that were out there. instead they were unable to do the things that we see make movements grow. embed themselves in communities, establish networks, express their message. instead we see, and i can tell you from my book, from my research, there's a lot of 'em peer cal examples of anti-fascism working and stopping these groups from growing. >> all right, i've got to leave it there. i imagine the debate doesn't stop here. thank you both for coming on, i appreciate it. >>> coming up, donald trump won the white house with upset victories in three traditionally blue states, miss swisconsin, mn and pennsylvania. we have some brand new polling on how voters feel. >> it's hard to move forward because a lot of times the damage is done. >> there's no place in the united states for white supremacy. we are a country that's founded we are a country that's founded on when this bell rings

states as the nation went to war during world war ii to defeat hitler, mussolini, the japanese and fascism around the world. this is what we will be talking about this week. i want to remind you a couple of the big questions that we have been tracing over the last several weeks, not the least of which is who and what is considered mexican/american or american more generally. who is afforded first class citizenship in american society? this changes with these million-plus migrants and their offspring. it is a dramatic moment and shift in mexican/american history we will be talking about this week in the 1940s during world war ii in part because, if nothing else, this moment reminds us that there are contradictions, fissures and deep iniquities when it comes to who and what is considered a full member of american society. one of the main arguments and points i want you to take away from today and wednesday is that world war ii highlights these contradictions of american society and democracy in dramatic, fundamental, powerful ways, not least because we have literally tens of thousands of ame

get laurie that they're not fascism look at my head. and fascists it's a rule almost jesus what exactly all next stop larry king now. cheerio and welcome to larry king now in london where we welcome comedian actor radio host activist and best selling author. iis amidst a stand up tour of england the island called rebirth is a weekly news show on you to call truth and has a new book due in september called twelve so good to have you back russell it's really lovely to be on any of your shows any of the of so many whatever format you want to talk to people in sit in happily that's correct what is twelve about twelve is using the formula that i used to get clean from drugs and alcohol to change anything in your life that you want to change when i stop taking drugs i mean an abstinence based recovery program i found do you know what larry the minister taking drugs as not having problems in every area is my sexual appetites became it they call them healthy healthy robust greedy and then and also in areas such as food or won enough of people's

political argument to make and if you look at the term fascism in terms of corporatism says something that flourished under eight years of bra obama and george bush before him and bill clinton before that in terms of the clinton bush obama continuum or you can make an argument that fascism in america is definitely a bipartisan. establishment driven trend in us society and public and corporate life. so we have on one side a group of white nationalists known to use violence on the other we have the anti rights demonstrators who according to donald trump as he said earlier there is no sides. saying that they didn't play any role in any violence in any such demonstrations and then as we've heard from other guests as well as yourself the suggestion that the local police have been backwards in coming forward that perhaps they've been sympathetic and of stood back surely the higher level thought he should have seen this is a recipe for disaster. well normally the way police normally work in the states is . we have to apply for permits to do protests so the group that applied for the permit w

someone has to accept the assignment to halt our nation's dissent into the slippery slope of fascism and racism and attack on our values. brothers and sisters, this is not a normal american government. and somebody has to have the courage that the little boy had in the nursery rhyme to remind the country that this emporer has no clothes. firing the attorney general to stop an investigation of foreign meddling into our election, this is not normal. pardoning the sheriff convicted of contempt of court and racial profiling, this is not normal. press briefings from the white house untelevised and filled with misinformation, this is not normal. threatening nouk wnuclear war by president by tweet is not normal. refusing to condemn racism and anti-semitism is not normal. somebody has to have the courage to stand up and say, this emporer has no clothes. and so we're called as prophets to call it as we see it. this scapegoating of those voting and those most vulnerable reminds of us what was said once by a poet, they came for the muslim and i was not a muslim and i did not speak up. they came

war industry needs to provide goods to fuel the war effort and defeat fascism overseas, and women and minorities are afforded opportunities that they hadn't been certainly during the depression, but one could argue even for a longer stretch of history before then. labor is needed to fuel wartime production. this is necessary to win the war. this leads to massive internal migration. so we've just had a million mexican folks and their children over the previous two decades move into the u.s., southwest and elsewhere. during world war ii there's massive internal migrations, not just from mexican-american and also african-american and others who are seeking to benefit from this employment surge that comes with the war. so black folks leaving the south and settling in war-production centers like los angeles or san francisco, chicago and elsewhere around the country is not uncommon. part of why this is important for us as we will see in a few minutes is that the kind of demographic context in which mexican-americans find themselves living changes, especially in big cities like los angeles w

well you know that what you describe is the underpinning for fascism fascism is always driven by fear that's where that's where the gun analysis comes in when people are afraid they're willing to give up on on elements of what they might have grown up with with elements that they've heard all their lives and how we should treat people how we should interact with people they're willing to give up on all of that because of fear and that fear card goes an awful long way it causes us to close our borders it causes us to to be very descriptive very discriminating on who we allow in the country who we don't allow in the country but it is always the base if you take a look and you drill down every time you're going to find this excessive of an effort like that is always built around fear people are fearful you know you'll have these characters that might seem tough but in their hearts they're very afraid of the things that they're we're talking about in our in our dialogue right now our political dialogue right now about what's happening in this country you know where they may be racist you

on camera los organizadores de "refuse fascism" tambin anunciaron que se planean multitudinarias marchaso de todo el pas para el prximo 4 de noviembre. reportando en vivo desde berkeley mh t48 ; ; ; ; ; ; cesar --el oficial de la polica de san francisco suspendido de su cargo, "joshua enea" se present esta maÑana en una corte de pittsburg en el caso de pornografa infantil en su contra. take vo --la audiencia de "enea" se pospuso hasta el 13 de septiembre, porque la fiscala no acudi al tribunal. el agente fue arrestado en julio pasado despues de una investigacin en la que las autoridades indicaron que el oficial tenia pornografa infantil en su computadora personal, en su casa de antioch. cesar hoy el senado de california aprob un proyecto de ley que, de ser firmada por el gobernador brown, prohibira a los abogados en las cortes preguntar por el estatus migratorio ...si no tiene relevancia para el caso... lorena algo que activistas calificaron como un alivio en medio de un ambiente tan anti inmigrante... andres brender nos informa... take pkg pkg activistas y algunos abogados califican la

xochitl johnson/refuse fascism- "we believe that we cannot hide our heads in the sand." xochtil (so-chee) johnson says taking a backseat to confronting white nationalism is not an option for her... or, the other members of the grassroots organization refuse fascism bay area, for that matter... which collectively, from the steps of city hall, vowed to denounce those who plan to attend the "no to marxism rally. "xochitl johnson/refuse fascism- "these are essentially the same people who came to charlottesville and murdered heather heyer. we've already been ignoring them and they've been growing and becoming more emboldened." these organizers say they don't plan on bringing weapons, though they believe the other side will be armed. the berkeley police department has the authority to take weapons away from people in and around the park. attorney curtis briggs with pier five law offices says he is willing to represent people pro-bono who physically clash with white supremacists.curtis briggs/attorney- "its not a secret that hitler killed 12 million people. hitler terrorized th

. >> stop racism, fascism. in the district tonight and across the country, rallies against hate. jong-un is kim muttering right now. alison: still finishes his mission. >> now, abc 7 news at 11:00, on your side. high,: emotions running tensions boiling over, those feelings front and center as a group of protesters toppled a confederate monument in durham, north carolina. all of this after the violent and deadly protests ensure louisville this weekend. nancy: and now family and friends are mourning in the city is praying for healing. anna-lysa gayle has the latest from charlottesville. anna-lysa: just take a look at some of the words written here as part of the memorial for those impacted by the violence saturday, uva nurses for heather. tonight many are figuring out how to prevent this from happening again. united in charlottesville monday jamesg, hours after fields junior appeared in court. he is accused of running his car into a group of counter protesters during a white nationalist rally, killing heather heyer and injuring dozens. two troopers died in a helicopter crash as the

one of them is a white supremacist group, mark preston, the other one is a group that protests fascism. their tactics are not always perfect but coming at this from two different angles. one wants to extinguish blacks and jews and anyone not lightweight, the other one is fighting against fascism regardless of what you think are their tactics. is this presidency out of control? >> a couple things. i do think it's a defining moment when it comes to, you really learn a lot about somebody when them are faced with adversity. what we saw a few hours ago, president trump took those questions. we saw that he's really unable to face adversity in a way and to be able to answer questions in a way that allows him to move on. the idea that you know, you're assuming that he was ever in control of the white house, as well, don, i would suggest that you know, from day one that this has been a white house that has been really in chaos. the chaos is driven from the top. we put a lot of criticism on the aides that surround him. really this is about donald trump. but from a greater perspective, don, this

historically we can see that naziism and fascism he feels not stopped by polite dialogue and reasonede. it had to be stopped by force and unfortunately self-defense is necessitated in the context that we're seeing today. >> mark, you didn't see this, but richard was shaking his head no. why do you say that is not the right way to confront -- >> i think fighting fire with fire under the circumstances is going to lead to what we saw in charlottesville. i look at how the cler i didn't reacted to the alt-right there. when i looked at how many of the student groups reacted to the alt-right, we don't need the antifa to come and make a spectacle out of it, to embolden these people. they love it. that's why they came with helmets on and shields, because they want to portray themselves as martyrs. they want to portray the white race as being elm battled. the idea that we want to encourage the aept fa to come with clubs, you know, in all due respect it seems crazy to me. >> but address mark's other point here. well, mark, you go ahead. i was going to get him to respond to your other point which