john boehner just helped elect the largest republican majority since the great depression. today republicans are down to 199. no question that the trump effect has been bad for house republicans. >> the big question -- >> is that something you think donald trump deep down knows and is basically denying or is it something we doesn't even get as we look at this new congress coming in tonight which you're saying as a republican which is interesting hearing from you, as

thank god for john boehner who came to the floor, notwithstanding the fact only 87 of his republican colleagues would support him, and with all the support of the democrats, we opened up the government after 26 days. now, we've exceeded it this time, and what happens two weeks from now when the president says, either you do it my way or no way or i'm going to shut down the government? mr. e paying a high price, speaker, for shutting down this government. not only the 800,000 hostages that have been taken by the president of the united states, with the complicitity of his republican supporters in the house -- complicity of his republican supporters in the house and the senate. 800,000 people, 440,000 of them forced to work without getting paid, 360,000 of them sitting home saying, how am i going to pay my mortgage, how am i going to pay my car payment. they don't know. i talked to a veteran just three days ago who represents a lot of veterans' organizations, said to me, do you know the highest reason for veteran suicide? i said, no, what is that? fiscal uncertainty. we have a lot of v

ask john boehner or paul ryan. none of them had the support within their party to return to the speakership. tonight pelosi is the first speaker to come back to the title in 60 years. you might say pelosi has become the drake of the democratic party. back to back like i'm on the cover of lethal weapon. back to back like i'm jordan '96, '9. and sometimes that's a sign you're effective, the haters. pelosi will tell you that too. >> you yourself are quite the lightning rod. >> the republicans have spent over 137,000 ads had my name on it in the last election. >> what comes next? today pelosi drew two key lines in the sand for trump. his power is equal to the independent judiciary in her house which includes incoming chairs like adam schiff and elij elijah cummings. even if he doesn't care about when the government reopens, she does. >> the legislative branch is article one, the first branch of government so equal to the presidency, and to the judiciary. democrats will be offering the senate republican appropriations l

continues its sanctions came john boehner also said he remained committed to working towards lasting peace on the korean peninsula while. a ten month old baby has been found alive thirty five hours after an explosion destroyed a russian apartment complex rescue it found the boy in freezing temperatures off to his. in his cries authorities believe a gas leak boost the blast at least seven people were killed and dozens are still missing. police in britain are treating a stamping attack in the city of manchester as a terrorism incident three people including a police officer was seriously injured on new year's eve at the city's central victoria train station one man has been arrested. at least eight people have been injured all for a man drove a van into a crowd of people celebrating new year's eve in tokyo police say the suspect then assaulted a night person on the street a twenty one year old has been arrested. well nasa has just completed humankind's most distant fly by some one billion miles past the planet pluto mission control has just receive signals from the new horizon spacecra

in a historic event, former speaker of the house john boehner reveals how you could become one of themjoin him online for the american cannabis summit. to secure your spot, text join to 44055. it's free to attend. text join to 44055. >> can't honestly tell you what happens when you text the number. none of us wanted the record on -- of it on our company phone. he was once anti cannabis and said his mind was changed by a military veteran for whom it treated a previously untreatable condition. americans have slowly embraced it. and are slowly learning the difference between things like thc and cbd. across the usa 33 states legalized it and ten states and the district of colombia have legalized recreational use and the crazy part is all of it violates federal law. but let it also be said, the former speaker of the house knows a growth industry when he sees one. >>> tonight on "all in". >> when your son looks at you and says, mama, look, you won, bullies don't win. >> impeachment talk took center stage. >> i said, baby, they don't because we're going to go in there and we're going to impea

in a historic event, former speaker of the house john boehner reveals how you could become one of them him online for the american cannabis summit. to secure your spot, text join to 44055. it's free to attend. text join to 44055. >> can't honestly tell you what happens when you text the number. none of us wanted the record on our company phone. he was once anti cannabis and said his mind was changed by a military veteran for whom it treated an untreatable conditio condition. americans have slowly embraced it. across the usa 33 states legalized it and ten states and the district of colombia have legalized recreational use and the crazy part is all of it violates federal law and the former speakerous house knows a growth undust industry when we sees one. that is our broadcast for friday night and this week. have a good weekend, thank you so very much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> happy to have you here. the grand jury that's been impanelled in washington d.c. to hear evidence and issue indictments with the special counsel's invest

i don't think they're going to make the mistake that paul ryan and john boehner made of letting the freedom, the most conservatives gum up the works and run the caucus. >> let's listen to a little bit more of that interview that anderson did with her last night on 60 minutes where she called the president a racist. we can play the short version. >> do you believe president trump is a racist? >> yeah. yeah. no question. >> how can you say that? >> well when you look at the words that he uses, which are historic dog whistles of white supreme macy, when you look at how he reacted to the charlottesville incident where neo-nazis murdered a woman, versus how he manufactures crises like immigrants seeking legal refuge on our borders, it's night and day. >> she's been in congress for four days and she's getting the 60 minutes treatment. what is it about her that is causing so much fascination and endorsement even from scott jennings? >> yeah, i mean, she is just very real and raw. she's very well spoken. i think she understands this new landscape of social media. i don't know if you've looked at he

john boehner ultimately left the speakership. nancy pelosi has changed that. it's one tactic the democrats in the house don't have right now, but the democrats have their own freedom caucus. it's going to be something that's a real constant struggle for them to deal with. >> doug and patrick, thank you both for your insights. >>> they're part of the bedrock of the president's base, but trump's trade tariffs hurt many farmers this summer. now the shutdown threatens to delay desperately needed government aid. so do farmers think a government shutdown over the wall is worth it? plus, president trump breaking his silence on the detained american paul whelan. he says he's looking into it. so what does that mean for whelan's case? you're live in the cnn newsroom. 300 miles an hour, that's where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. learn more at retire your risk dot org. we know that when you're >> tspending time with thelass grandkids... ♪ music >> tech: ...every minute counts. and you don't have time f

the same way john boehner was coming in and n he was tryin to do all these things at first. he was trying to hold back that conservative base. eventually he had to releapt. he could delay and i thinkea impeachmentngs are inevitable. the question is just when. >> long-term plan. doesn't seemingly -- >> mueller report could change everything. >> for sure. >> thas what they are tryin to do. i think she's at least trying to buy enoughtime, meaning speaker please, to the mueller report and then i think all bets are off. >> sure. >> much more to come on the show in just abouten minutes. >> thanks for stopping by. should be a good one. a lot of peopleis in own are interested in what the chief of staff has toss stay, and a reminder that "meet the press" comes up every sunday at 10:30 right here after "news 4 today." this is the favorite part of the show when we go from chuck to lauryn. >> i like this part of the show because i like when you throw to theather. >> i've taken the mike off and we have the uncomfortable th ofmike banter. >> i like when you toss to the weather. >> i reall

john boehner said the republican party is taking a nap. republican rters say dead. of old is trump endorsed challenger. so what is the state of the now?blican party n terms a personality i of lead parties. hundreds of counties my greated this time. republican bases might pk a more ural part of the suburbs and and donald e city rump saw this and put an point on that. of had is still trump-centric. if donald trump goes what happens to the party after that? democratic party has a state center. we've seen the republicans went their, i don't know how this focus is out. politics have coalitions are moving and changing and they're in the static. and as long as donald trump is there. this is going to be the party of trump. -- depends on the democrats to move it to the left. >> i want to ask you. o you think trump will be primaried? eve that political pressure and i'm not divorcing. are could he ats win? sure. picking up seats in the senate, in theicans lost 40 seats house but that is typical. look at what happened to why in 2010.ma both times, political writers reelected so

i work in the house, under both john boehner's leadership and paul ryan's leadership. the house of representatives did pass budgets during that period of time, and cut hundreds of millions of dollars out of discretionary spending over that period of time. that if you consider what the federal government spends as a pie, 1/3 of serving, about the budget of what we spend is discretionary spending. if you were to zero out all discretionary spending, the mandatory spending, the 70% of the rest of what the federal government spends is still sending our spending curve in the wrong direction. it is more than we take in and revenue. -- take in in revenue. i understand your concerns, and i agree we did not get budgets through the senate, but the house passed a budget each and every year until last year. host: on the republican line, carol. caller: good morning. i am worried about this new financial crisis coming up. nobody's talking about it, so it is going to get sprung on us like it did in 2005 and 2006. it's been going on since at least 2013. housing prices have been inflate

twenty four he founded led zeppelin he hired single robert plant bassist john paul jones and drama john boehner. in the years that followed that zeppelin would become one of the most influential and innovative bands in rock history. in the early ninety's seventy's the band was catapulted into the world of rock superstardom their lives played out exclusively on stage in private jets and in hotel rooms hard drugs and fast living took the toll jimmy page became addicted to heroin then in nine hundred eighty excessive alcohol consumption led to the death of the band's drummer john bonham. in the wake of this tragedy the band decided to call it quits. as part of led zeppelin jimmy page wrote music history the band is his life's work and now at age seventy five he still tends it's a legacy. from serial way to heaven the stairway to trade held somewhere that's really great how that could perhaps again dead a little bit better because now we've heard that u.s. negotiators at least say china has promised to purchase a substantial amount of american goods that could lead to an end of the trade war but we

michael steele, who worked for john boehner, i mean, john boehner had a very good relationship with former chief of staff bill daly in the obama white house, they spoke regularly, they almost got a big budget deal done. didn't happen. but they were speaking to each other. now it seems both sides are so frozen in their lack of movement that we have the acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney, talking about what to do to prepare for an extended shutdown into march or april. susan, i don't know about you, but watching this play out is just a stunning, stunning portrait of complete ignorance on both sides of what the reality of this shutdown is doing not just to the 800,000 people not getting a check for the second time, but to the country itself. >> you know, it's cold comfort to people across the country, especially the federal workers by this that they see this tit for tat debate going on in washington, but i think that is the force that is going to make this get resolved. you know, you think about who broke yesterday with the president? corey gardner told the "denver post," he would vote for

the early on, leaders like in wagner, dianne, cathy mcmorris rogers, susan brooks, paul ryan and john boehner. because of that experience i focused on how to improve the recruitment efforts for the nontraditional candidates. i was honored to serve i as the first woman chair for the national republican committee of the last cycle where we successfully recruited over 100 women to run for congress. unfortunately, about half didn't make it through their primary and we only added carol miller who you love an we love and supd more of. i believe one way we can attempt to change the trend is by supporting strong women candidates before the primary. as any candidate will tell you this investment is critical so i'm proud to announce today that in the 2020 cycle, we will develop a slate of the top winning republican candidates wn republican candidates before the primary similar to the program developed by the then young kevin mccarthy paul ryan and the eric cantor will reach benchmarks for fund raising, campaign strategy data and the budget and will consist of top candidates in the country and support t

more important than he was it's the only thing he does well ok that's the view of the honorable john boehner his former strategist i have heard that lesson for you too are trying to be more important than you actually are really listen you are here. just to come and interview me i did i didn't ask you to come absolutely i want to sign the rapture so so so you're hired to here so let's come back with. ok steve was was in the populist movement before trial ok from two thousand years that they enter into politics by the way it was with breitbart ok and there's an ideology there's a vision ok and they could exercise or put in practice is vision with triumph for certain time until big. rushing the kind of clash for sure and so on but there was a steamboat before we struck and there's a still but one after trying to believe me and this is the vision being indeed. brought to other countries that the us and i didn't bought it in italy by solving years but then again the primary is done in the middle of the lead party why because of his strong attitude to immigration you know he's a hard line you kno

. >> john boehner and paul ryan >> they're not in town anymore. i think it shows t t nan pelosi will final this liberal base is much harder to keep in check. >> all right. thank you. >> it may be a new year. you can still watch "meet the press" at the regulartime. summed mornings at 10:30 right he nbc 4. >> they feel a little heavier though. >>> still ead, annusual smash and grab ins d.c. a thieves use a u-haul as a with at to get what they want. plus, rain drops are fallingnd temperatures are climbing. >>> and before we head to break. some sad breaking news. a giant in theoc restaurant industry, john laytham, has passed away. the spokesperson said h battled a heart condition for years. he startedsh as a dish at the original clyde's in georgetown in the 1960s and worked his way up the ranks. eventually helping to open 13 clyde's properties across our clyde's properties across our egion people aren't talking about how much clyde's properties across our egion money they saved buying giant brand chicken. they're not talking about how our pre-chopped

leaders like ann wagner, diane black, kathy mcmorris-rogers, susan brooks, paul ryan, and john boehner. i will never forget the faith they had in me and my team. and because of that experience, i have focused on how to improve our recruitment efforts for nontraditional candidates. i was honored to serve as the first woman recruitment chair for the national republican congressional committee last cycle. where we successfully recruited 100 women to run for congress. about half did not make it through their primaries. we only added one new republican woman in the freshman class. carol miller, who we love and support, but we need more of. i believe that one way we can attempt to change this trend is by supporting strong women candidatespre-primary. this early investment is critical. i'm proud to announce today that in the 2020 cycle, e-pac will develop a slate of our top women republican candidates pre-primary. similar to the young guns program developed by a then young kevin mccarthy, paul ryan and eric canter, the candidates will qualify for a formal slate by meeting benchmarks. the slat

when i say the name of former house speaker john boehner what's the first thing you think of?ered legalized weed? we know from numerous profiles of him the ohio republican was already known to embrace the holy trinity of modern day vices, alcohol, tobacco and sun exposure. less well known is his relationship with the cannabis industry, unless and until you see this tv ad as we recently did. >> marijuana unleashed a green gold rush across the nation creating $10.8 billion in new wealth every day and every day transforming more and more morn americans into millionaires. how you can become one of them. join him online for the american cannabis summit. to secure your spot text. it's free to attend. text join to 44055. >> can't honestly tell you what happens when you next the fub. none of us wanteded record of it on our company phones. boehner was once vehemently anti-semitism cannabis and said publicly since his mind was changed by a military veteran for whom it treat add previously untreatable condition. americans have slowly embraced it, and are slowly learning things like the d

she has what john boehner has on the other side of the extreme. a group of people without whom she is not speaker. she needs to listen to that. but at the same time the american public expects us to get the job done. president trump has positioned himself and republicans well in this. he has taken her as her word. and he's put a lot of democratic senators in that spot where you just can't say, hell no one more time in this climate. i think there is room for compromise and i hope we see that. liz: there was an interesting story that we watched. i want your reaction to the bipartisan standing ovation on the floor of the house when republican kevin mccarthy read into the record the names of 50 victims killed by illegal aliens. many of them were police officers. including police officer ron singh. >> there are real victims on the other side of this open border policy that democrats promote. i am a senator due in no small part to this very issue, the idea of sanctuary issues. me up opponent, the -- the incumbent senator want stand up to this. there was

and with that i would like to welcome in my panel, former adviser to jeb bush and house speaker john boehner, michael spiel. cnbc editor at large, john harwood, former chief of staff and former director barbara shrek, and national reporter for politico, laura barone lopez. thank you all for being here, this is the third week of this shutdown. john harwood, let's look at the big picture for a second. i have now covered too many of these shutdowns quite frankly. >> not as many as i have though. >> that's true. fair point. however, in the past there always seems to be an end game in some way. we knew it would drag on for a while but you can see the political pressure, incentives building on one side or the other and you could have a sense at least it was going to end at some point. i don't get that sense now at all. >> we certainly can't see it but i would think a couple things. first of all, there are some republican senators who are getting antsy and i think they're not going to tolerate this for a long time. so mitch mcconnell is saying he's not going to bring up the bills pelosi wants to mo

. >> it passed the senate and john boehner said he wouldn't bring it to the floor, because he didn't want -- >> there is always something. >> and in 2008, it was all you had to do is find one thing in the bill that people didn't like. >> i think if people really wanted to solve it, there would have been plenty of opportunities to, and the fact it's a pattern of going out of your way to not solve it, really makes me think this is on pump. take politics out of it. if you're just a person at home, you think, i know how to do this. make legal immigration easier and illegal immigration harder. go. >> right. i think that could be the possibility again if you bring together sensible people. i think democrats should get together if they want to, to find a space for this. i do think there is, in the congress that we just had in 2017, '18, there was a bill. congressman bill hurd and pete aguilar had in congress that was very reasonable. huge investments on border security, including additional wall funding or fencing, whatever you want to call it. >> there is the possibility there. >> the othe

they shut the government down for a number of days and john boehner shortly after this ended, mitch mcconnell rode to the rescue with chuck schumer on that one. after it ended, he admitted defeat and that they tried to fight the good fight and they lost it in that case. most recently this is a trump shut down that was unique because republicans controlled the congress. the house, the senate, and the presidency. chuck schumer and other democrats in the senate had not allowed spending bills to get through using a filibuster. they blinked very quickly. they were trying to shut down the government over support for the dreamers. that only lasted about a day before democrats retreated on it. daca is sort of held up in the courts, but some people want to use it as a bargaining chip right now. >> zack, thank you so much. a good explainer there. i want to bring in political director david chalian. they want something different than what the leadership is doing. >> this is going to be different because mitch mcconnell publicly is acting like he wants no part of this. this is president trump, nancy pelo

i genuinely don't know he meant it this way, but i don't think he would use unbecoming of john boehner or so forth, which is where you were going with that. but having said that, i i really do think his comment in general the spirit of it and what's going on here is very much gender neutral. this is about a genuine standoff, very deep policy differences between the president and the democrats who now control the house of representatives. it is just a fact that it is up to the speaker of the house to do the inviting when it comes to a state of the union address. that's the protocol, that's the way it is. he's dock icoming to their hous literally. it's her prerogative. she gave the reason was probably an excuse. so maybe that's what he was trying to get. at there. and it's a power play. there's other real reasons. >> just when us first read about this, this to me seems like she's not asking the president to change the date. she's telling the president to change the date. she has the power to do so. >> she does. it doesn't officially happen, the state of the the yawnon doesn't. happen for

, eugene robinson columnist for the washington post and michael steele, house spokesperson for john boehner. congressman ryan, let me start with you. we said one of the first orders of business, i think they're voting on the rules as we speak or they may have finished that up. you, the new democratic majority, are going to pass a bill to reopen the government. exactly what would that bill provide when it comes to what the president has been talking about when it comes to border security. with the president saying it's dead on arrival, what happens if he doesn't budge to pass it? >> it's going to open up six departments of the government and yet no wall funding and that funding for those six parts will be until september and then give us a month to have a discussion about border security until about february 8th and i think that's the important part. let's figure something out. if we have four weeks or so, let's think a little bit bigger. you know, we're talking about security. some of us don't want a wall, but there's plenty of technology out there. we know that most of the problem from peo

john boehner recently said the republican party is taking a nap.rump supporters say the republican party of old is dead. trump has takenpu it over. we had seen his presence in primaries, is almost a flawless record when he endorses a candidate. sometimes he's taken on the underdog. he took on coming to the challenger to mark sanford, republican from south carolina. everyone thought he would win and trump endorsed the challenger and sanford lost. what is the state of the republican party now? what does it have to go in the coming years? >> right now it's very much a personality cult in terms of self identify republican. a party, people inter partes elite parties all the time. you make of those coalitions. if you take a look at the republican coalition over the last 20 years, i've got a charge of hundreds of counties that migrated basically from bill clinton in 96 to voting for donald trump this last time. republican base has migrated from the country club to the country. it's becoming much more world party. the suburbs are not the fault lines in ame

john boehner used to remind us we had one half of one third of government. that's not a point of leverage. >> and it's hurting. because i have you here and your extensive work with the sanders campaign in 2016, i want to ask about "the new york times" reporting, the sexism claims from within the campaign, women paid less and treated worse. bernie sanders addressed that this week on ac 360 and said look, i didn't know about it. i was busy running around the country. but of course, it shouldn't happen. it's something we should address. i'm paraphrasing here. did you experience any of that, and what do you make of his answer? >> no, i did not experience any sexual harassment. i think the term that was used in some of the reporting was sexual violence, but for those women and individuals on the campaign that did, it is not only unacceptable but it has to in fact be addressed. i do believe that jeff weaver and the quote/unquote friends of bernie sanders, the campaign committee, came out and said those things did eventually get to the top of the campaign when it c

. >> going back to 2010 and how john boehner would try to delay his demand on obama.ut he would eventually cave and he would buy time. here is what i took away this week. it is interesting they rush to the microphone to condemn the senate than the language. that was telling. i will say this, look at what congresswoman said, she believes there is a mandate to go after him. nast what is going to make it inevitable in my mind that we have impeachment hearings. nancy pelosi can hold off this foor while. i don't think she can forever stop this train. >> what does nancy pelosi do before? >> it is nothing worse than the president is saying. >> that's right. >> nancy pelosi does not think this is a winning issue for democrats right now, why? because the mueller investigation is not finished. you are going to continue to hear these new members talking about impeachment and it is hard to be any movement on it until we get that mueller report. of course they are worrying about the backlash and they're more interested in politics and not governing. if you are a new member, that's

and it former spokesman for john boehner who is now speaking for marijuana. >> it's a strange transitiondon't know if that's your future or not but is it odd to bump into a guy like that in a hallway who says white supremacy is okay. >> i haven't bump under to him yet. he's been making these statements for years just as you articulated. >> if you had strong legs down there in the bottom part of your leg, that means you've been carrying dope across the border. >> not been my experience but yes, that's what he says. what i think is extraordinary is he didn't even claim to be misquoted. usually the congressman if he's saying out of context. and urged to see partedy leaders like liz cheney the conference chair saying this is unacceptable. and i think there's a rising tide of realization this is not something we need in the house republican conference. >> he used phrase white supremacy. er saying even the phrase -- well, you have to come up with a better phrase. white people should rule the world. >> i think there's bipartisan agreement that we all agreed white people weren't superior to ever

when the speaker of the house, john boehner, brought a bill to the floor, when the government was shut down to open it up, mr. scalise voted no. the other person who voted no is mr. mull vinny who is now the chief of staff. i get that, they think shutting down the government is not a bad option. try to force the other side to agree with them. want to pay their ransom. yes, i use those words. and actually if either one of us adopts that as an acceptable alternative in the negotiation process, this country is in real trouble. real trouble. so we ought to open up the government. and then, yes, we can can sit down. and yes, we'll resolve this. but my friends in great angst he did not mention why it took them 11 /3 months -- 2/3 months while they were in charge last year, they didn't offer a bill until they were about to walk out the door. and be the minority. 11 months and 20 days, no homeland security bill was brought to this floor. i don't know why. my is up significance is they didn't have the votes. -- my is up significance -- supposition is they didn't have the votes. i'll conclude an

he has long been shunned by establishment republicans like john boehner.resident trump? president trump fund raised for him in the past. he had him to the white house, to the oval office. i think we have a picture of him outside of the white house. does it give him presidential cover? >> i think president trump should distance himself from this person. he hurts donald trump. we had this situation before where the president has been associated with people who have done galactically stupid and offensive things. it would behoove the president to get away from these people. the president should be basking in the credit on his work on criminal justice reform and outreach for the african-american community. the positive impact of work like that is mitigated if you continue to associate yourself with people like king. so i think the president should get away from this guy. i think the congressional committee needs to support the primary opponent. >> there is a should and a will. it was the president who used the both sides language which addressing the tragedy in

thank god for john boehner who came to the floor, notwithstanding the fact only 87 of his republican colleagues would support him, and with all the support of the democrats, we opened up the government after 26 days. now, we've exceeded it this time, and what happens two weeks from now when the president says, either you do it my way or no way or i'm going to shut down the government? mr. e paying a high price, speaker, for shutting down this government. not only the 800,000 hostages that have been taken by the president of the united states, with the complicitity of his republican supporters in the house -- complicity of his republican supporters in the house and the senate. 800,000 people, 440,000 of them forced to work without getting paid, 360,000 of them sitting home saying, how am i going to pay my mortgage, how am i going to pay my car payment. they don't know. i talked to a veteran just three days ago who represents a lot of veterans' organizations, said to me, do you know the highest reason for veteran suicide? i said, no, what is that? fiscal uncertainty. we have a lot of v

i think the media and any other contact, if it were speaker john boehner or speaker paul ryan sayingy during shutdown to allow for president obama to give the seed of the union address would be treated as a laughable conjecture it is. it's a political statement on pelosi's part and it's clear to everyone who knows how this works. >> shannon: john roberts has the secret service as they were never contacted by anyone in democratic leadership. dhs secretary nielsen tweeted "the department of homeland security and the u.s. secret service are fully prepared to sit support and secure the state of the union. we thank them for their focus and dedication for all they do each day to secure our homeland." austan. >> i appreciate the secret service and everything they do. i have no doubt they can do the job. personally when i was in the white house, i benefited from their protection of presidential events all over the place. you've got the president of the united states forcing tens or hundreds of thousands of workers to go to work and not be paid. i think it's totally appropriate to say we are

and where it will be on the spectrum of the craziness and the weak speakerships of paul ryan and john boehner to the powerful leadership of pelosi the first time around? >> look, i think the caucus looks like america. i think the visuals were unbelievably striking. you had the democratic side looking incredibly diverse and colorful in dress and in skin color. it was wonderful. on the other side, you had a mostly male, white group of republicans. the visual contrast was stark. in terms of divisions, look, there is going to be family squabbles, but that's a funk of energy. what you have here is an incredible amount of new energy, a keep commitment to policy and the battles we are having and the arguments are about policy ideas and bold ideas like the green new deal. it can lead to disagreements here and there, but fundament fundamentally is energy. >> it was striking. i was in the capital today in the room where they are doing a ceremonyial swearing in with their families. a lot of folks with young kids because there fairly young new members. it's so striking that where we ended up here in 2019

challenged by members of their own caucus who made it very difficult for them to do their job -- john boehner. but i think people forget how powerful the speaker of the house is. this is the person next in line to the presidency after the president and vice president. and nancy pelosi in taking the speakership a second time, really harkening back to powerful speakers, people like tip o'neal, this is an incredibly powerful position particularly when it's an adversarial position to the president, think newt gingrich. when nancy pelosi came in and reminded the people listening to her give her acceptance speech and in article i of the constitution. and it says all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the house of representatives but the senate may propose or conquer with the amendments. if donald trump wants money for a wall it has to go through nancy pelosi. there's no other way around it. so he is now negotiating with a woman who has done this job before and who knows government as well as he has ignored the rudiments of government, the workings of government. so this is going to be a r

john boehner said a lot of nice things about the president and said the president listens to the wrong it comes to issues like this. boehner saying this, when i was looking at a legislative process, the last place i looked at was talk radio, and by knucklehead he means freedom caucus. boehner has his way of saying things. he's saying stop listening to thearou ann coulters. >> it's really not clear, john. the president has an enormous amount of power over the republican party. he has a lot of support among republicans. they follow him where he leads them. when he says we need a border wall, republicans, the polling shows that republicans move in his direction, but at the same time he has never really been willing to buck that, you know, 25%, 30% of the party perhaps represented by the talk radio hosts and others in order to push the republican party in a direction that will allow him to govern. it's just not clear to me that he's there yet. i think he has come out of the shutdown really irritated by the coverage of what happened there, not willing to acknowledge defeat even though he di

. >> michael steel, former john boehner guy. what do you see that we don't see?ents haling miniscule and real and measurable progress? the sense that after these votes you will say that the president's plan can't pass the senate and the democrats's plan can't pass the senate and a combination of factors whether it's the speaker and the president has to get together and find a compromise between the two positions. democrats have to understand there was control of one half to one 30 of the federal government, they are not going to get exactly what they want. with democrats in control of one house, the president is not going to get what he wants. it took a month of shut down. which should have been day one or day two. >> mitch mcconnell is allowing president trump to dictate his job. he knows he wouldn't move forward because he has been digging his heels in that he want as i border wall. he is sensing if i budge a little bit, the president will maybe change and come to the table instead of demanding this money for nothing and hope that the way it moves through, we w

>> uh -- well, john boehner probably. but, again, i voted against him three times.ughter] kennedy: good for you. your job, in many ways your job is great, there's a lot of pomp and circumstance. there are, you know, secret perks. you guys have your own gym and recording studio, that's really fun. other than that, kind of sucks, doesn't it? >> kennedy, i've never been to the gym, can you tell? [laughter] >> they must be using the muscular lens, because you look quite fit from here. chad pergram says it gets worse before it gets better, do you agree? >> oh, i agree. look, if you wanted to do something now, you could vote to fund the essential employees -- the air traffic controllers, tsa employees and the prison guards -- and then the non-essential, for instance, who aren't working but are going without pay, then you could negotiate over that. but i think it's wrong really to have them coming to work without pay. kennedy: the white supremacy lobby didn't quite get the talking points to steve king and, boy, he's really stepped in it. what do you think of that situation

michael steel, former senior adviser to jeb bush's campaign and former top congressional aide to john boehner. welcome, all. peter alexander, let's start at the white house. what is going on? >> that's a good question. you'll need a couple of hours of television to clarify that. but we'll do our best in the course of the next few minutes, andrea, if we can. it appears rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, is backtracking from the stunning assertion that he made in that conversation you played a part of just moments ago where he appeared to leave open the possibility that members of the president's campaign had coordinated with russians during the course of the 2016 campaign. the backtracking is a new statement. first he spoke to our colleague kristen welker, then provided us with a formal statement where he said he was afraid that if him changing his position, as appeared to be the case, that he had been i think misinterpreted was his language, he said more broadly that he had an only done so unconsciously. he said, i represent only president trump, the no the trump campaign. there

defrancesco, profess at university texas lbg public affairs, michael steele, worked with jeb bush and john boehner and emily, senior adviser at swing left. we'll start with you, victoria, in the meantime. you know, so this seemed as if it was an olive branch from the president. right? >> it did but remember here that the issue of the wall is the one he started his campaign on, saying that we're going to build this big, beautiful wall and the democrats know that this is a nonstarter. in doing this, this is just red meat for the base. it's non-esque chul. the truth of the matter, both republicans and democrats, many of them say, you know what, the wall doesn't really work if we're going to talk about border security, let's talk about the technological advances that we can put on the ground. not just a wall. so, there's the aspect of it of giving someone just, you know, when your toddler has a tantrum and just give them a toy to shut them up, is it worth doing that? there wasn't enough in exchange in terms of only giving three years reprieve to the dreamers instead of a more formal path and even then