paul: holman, i read that section with real real fascinat.t by mueller. here's the facts of obstruction that might warrant criminal judgment. i didn't make it. but i didn't exonerate him either. what was -- >> it was a complete dereliction. the fbi and cia had put the collusion story to rest before mueller got the job, it was the firing of comey and the possibility that constituted obstruction why we have a special counsel. if he couldn't give us a ruling on that case, then what was he there for. that was the fundamental crime he was there to sort out. paul: mueller was supposed to be a stand-up guy, courageous, doesn't take pressure. how do you explain that abdication. >> some people are reading it he wants it resolved by congress with impeachment hearings or at least considering impeachment. maybe that's his thinking. i don't know. i think he should have said there is no obstruction of justice case, there was no motive, there was no collusion. >> i think it was a hung jury. he has 18 prosecutors. they spent $35 million, they spend all this

night. >> by all appearances, tommy "cheese curl" tunstall, serving life for robbery, was one of holman'sar inmates. >> tommy was an interesting inmate to interview, actually, because he seemed very calm and confident. quietly confident. >> bring your ass on. [ bleep ]. >> more often than not, when we would start interviewing tommy, inmates would start yelling things at him. >> you've got to tell me what the deal is with you. everybody -- you could run for president in here. >> i guess i get along with everybody. >> but tunstall chooses to spend much of his time with just one man, kenyatta mcmillen, who is serving life without parole for murder. >> i love cheese because he always been there for me, no matter what, and he ain't never changed or turned his back on me on nothing. >> mcmillen and tunstall had been friends for about three years when we met them at holman. >> it done got to the point to where it's like if i'm thinking about something, before i can get it out, he can say it. and it's vice versa. >> do you identify as gay? >> do me -- do i do? yes. >> you're gay? >> yes. >> i was

>> i love tom holman, i've gotten to know him and i think he's a strong candidate and chris koback hasx. lou: i'm sorry you like who? >> chris i think has demonstrated and he's got the confidence of the president, he's very tough on these issues and i was disappointed he didn't get through and become the governor of kansas, but there is some really good people there, and most importantly you want somebody who will do what the president wants to do. this is a signature issue and they just need to find somebody who will execute on the president's agenda. lou: and chris koback seems to be leading the way. kucinelli, a never-trumper? well we haven't got time, jason chaffetz, always good to talk with you, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. lou: take a look at this dashcam video from atlanta. a police officer dragged for several feet, by a drunken driving suspect, during an arrest attempt, the officer hanging on throughout, he was able to stop the vehicle and arrest the driver. police say the suspect had illegal drugs inside the car and they apparently had been used by someone, we

chief, tom holman and congressman, andy biggs. gentlemen, every day, we hear something remarkable that has happened to american people that should never have happened at all implemented by someone who should never have been here. this is the most basic job of government, which is keeping the nation safe and securing the border. because democrats feel there is some advantage to having the border open, there is this fight. mr. holman, you have been on the front lines here. we understand that this problem exists. we do seem to be hearing from the media a little bit and some democrats. maybe now they are perceiving it as being a problem for them in the upcoming election. tom friedman at the "new york times" said building a wall is important. do you sense any shift in momentum of being able to get this border secure? >> i see a little shift in what's being said. we can't ignore the crisis. i've been doing this 34 years. i can tell you in my 34 years, this is the worst i have ever seen it. you look at over 1 million illegal entries this

. >> that was former acting ice director tom holman saying the shakeup was done to give the presidenth ideas of what is going on at the border. some republicans are worried about a major void at the agency. let's go to the senate, senator ron johnson. good to have you back. how are you? >> great, neil. >> neil: let me ask you about what you make of former director holman saying here, this calls for sweeping action. he said of the president's replacement for kirstjen nielsen that kelvin mcalneenan, that he will take drastic action. >> there is a humanitarian and national security crisis. in 2014, president obama declared a humanitarian crisis when 120,000 children came in illegally as family units in the first six months of this year, 240,000 have come. it's overwhelming our system. from my standpoint, the ball is in congress's court. it's been the dysfunction in congress. we have to change laws. we need better barriers. you know, it's up to the president who he wants in these agencies to advise him. the fact of the matter is, what is fuelling this crisis are loop holes that reward una

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commission on human rights says at least three hundred twenty five people were killed let's go now to john holman who joins us live from the john what happened in today's protests. why i think the first thing to say is that the number of police was vastly more than the number of people who were trying to protest you can actually see some of them now it's all over the things we're meeting point police now says quite a few trucks here behind just we would be one of the smooth groups of protesters and basically president will take and his government have made it illegal now full street demonstrations to take place so they were trying to do so in a car parking space to try and basically a boy direction and as soon as they sort of set up shop there there was a big police presence some of them heavily armed some of them with roy shields police trucks with ing in and out the parking lot with the group of i'd say less than a hundred protesters were there were several others daunted around the case so we're hearing from an umbrella group of stupid opposition activists and supporters that they think there

>> i love tom holman, i have got don't know him. kris kobach, he has confidence of the president's ear, he is tough on the issues, and disappointed he did not get 3 to become governor of kansas there are good people there. and you most personally, you want someone who will do what president wants to do, this is a signature issue, they need someone to execute on president's agenda. lou: yep, and kris kobach seems to be leading the way. cuccinelli, a never-trumper, what -- we have not got time, jason chaffetz always good to talk with you. >> thank you. lou: take care, president trump taking bold steps, shaking up dhs leadership, fixing our broken immigration system and secures our borders we'll be back with much more stay with lou: among our guests tonight he made a strong, strong policy proposal on border security. >> i would submit quite humbly that maybe better than catch and release would be a one-word doctrine of repel. don't let them do what the texas cps does. don't let them put on our soil unless they're coming in legal legall

joining me now with reaction is mark morgan, a former border patrol chief under obama and tom holman.ark, i want to start with you. this actually happens more often than we would know, right? >> absolutely. this is a one-time event. this illustrates how difficult it is to patrol the southwest border. i'd like to know more about the situation. sometimes mexican officials are working for the cartels. if you listen to trace's explanation is, i'm not sure 100% the actual mexican government officials. >> that is part of the point here, right? it's not as if the united states is trying to break in to mexico. why would they have troops right up on our border. >> right. from my experience, i would suggest they were there possibly supporting the mexican cartels. that is a large call assumption. it's not far off pace. >> you had this experience, tom. you detained mexican officials on our side. >> yeah, when the story broke, i remember 30 years ago, as a young agent, we got a call mexican military on a ranch. the rancher called us. fully automatic weapons. we showed up, several other agents. we

. >> dana: tom holman is talking about mceliniy. >> he's spent many years fighting this fight. he knows the ground. he knows how to operate under ground. kirstjen nielsen was very talented but she didn't come up through the ranks. kevin is within the ranks. i think kevin can do operationally what he's done in the lower ranks. i think he can certainly step up enforcement on the border. he has a great relationship with dod. dod helps. >> dana: one thing that really needs to be done if there's going to be any help is that congress has to decide to provide more resources or allow a change in the asylum laws. neither of those things look like they're going to happen. president also still thinking about whether to close the border as a way to stop illegal immigrants from trying to get into the country. >> well, look. the president i think was right to commend the mexican government. the last thing we want to do is hurt our country economically. closing the border would cause factories to begin closing in a very short period of time because key components of american built automobiles

the report comes just weeks after eight prisoners at alabama's holman prison ended a hunger strike against their solitary confinement after prison officials shut f waterr to their cells. new mexicoco's governor has sigd a measure decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana and the paraphernalia usused to consume it. previously, first-time marijuana users faced arrest and up to 15 days in jail. under the new law, those found with small amounts of ththe drug will face a penalty assessment, punishable by y $50 fine.. a bill to legalize the recreational use of marijuana cleared new mexico's state house but has stalled in the senate. and in baltimore, maryland, students at johns hopkins have launched a sit-in occupation of their campus administration building, protesting against their university's plans for an armed police force on campus, as well as johns hopkins' contracts with immigrations and customs enforcement. students are demanding the cancellation of contracts with ice and a pledge to donate all monies received from ice to baltimore's immigration defense fund. they're also

forming acting ice direct or the, thomas holman. now you can see why the president wants to send armed soldiers to the border. it seems to escalate by the minute. >> it's very concerning. as i said, neil, many times, none of this is happening on the board border without the coordination and the approval of the mexican drug cartels. they control everything. from the incursion with the military that was working on behalf of the drug cartels to what we saw. this should be concerning to the administration. this emergency on the border, this cry i haves on the border, we have to throw everything at it before something devastating happens. >> neil: and a judge is pondering what to do about remaining in mexico, if you're apprehended and going through the whole thing, the mexican authorities and -- will be responsible for those in mexico. they will not be able to wait it out in the united states. now, assuming as they have in the past courts do go along with it, now what are we looking at? >> the same thing i've been pushing. the courts hav

prepared and anticipate if there were to be major cyber attacks undertaken against the american home holman would have to prepare for rapid response and the question of fully leveraging the cyber national mission force as well as augmenting them through volunteer efforts, perhaps local level units or even leveraging the talents and capabilities of those working american technology companies. i think we will never get to eliminate that possibility but we can think about mitigating and managing risk to the fullest extent possible. >> thank you. general byrne. >> if i could help answer that a little bit. we do spend, we spent some time on the joint staff thinking through that issue, and i do believe my panel member here characterized both china and russia have strategic campaigns to disrupt those types of things. so we are going to have to deal with them. so the homeland will be contested. and so we've taken a look at how we project power, and our commercial partners are key to that, craft, visa. we had classified sessions with them to describe what we mean by contested environment. so we have

doctor ellie holman was on a train, plane, had one drink, given to her by emirates.ng an offence, so there are any committing an offence, so there are many, many silly laws into dubai that people are not aware of and which the foreign office really needs to reconsider their travel warnings. is the government doing enough to get that message across?” think it's very difficult in the uae because it markets itself as something that it really isn't, it isa something that it really isn't, it is a very strict muslim country with strict laws and the marketing of it is something different. you almost come to think it's something like a ibiza in the middle east, it is not. ministers should consider banning the use of 5g technology made by huawei in westminster and other sensitive areas, according to a government cyber—security official. the technical director of the national cyber security centre, told bbc panorama that "shoddy" engineering makes the chinese firm's products more likely to be vulnerable to attack. huwei says it will soon reveal plans to tackle the problem. a t

. >> reporter: amy holman with nuclear option nucle no noaa says it is the key to many alaskans way oft only for knowing what it's going to be like for how we could dress today, but also because we use our forecasts for aviation, for transportation, and that is critical in alaska because so many of the communities aren't on roads. >> reporter: when you have a person sitting at home watching right now, what does this mean to them? >> one thing everybody should know is that we are watching this change happen so rapidly and we are also measuring it. we are trying to understand what's going on. >> going to get the buoy. >> reporter: we joined scientist victoria hill as she deployed a buoy to measure how sunlight and heat impact the ice. >> this is the brains of everything? >> yes. so this is what controls switching the sensors on and off. >> reporter: do you name them? >> this one is number nine. we could name it after you if you want. it be the al recker buoy. >> reporter: al in the roker arctic buoy. yes. it's not just the ice in the arctic. scientists like bryan thomas are interested in

taken to work with the communities affected around cannon air force base, and now holman air force base. >> when the epa identified the pfas and pfoa as emerging contaminant, all of the services went out and surveyed our sites. we looked at, i think it was 297 different sites, where we might have been using this fire >> we looked at i think 297 different sites where we might have been using this, we have replaced 100% of our firefighting foam we have surveyed the drinking water on each of our bases we have done 110 detailed site inspections we are providing alternative water at 21 locations. there is not currently a cleanup standard and we have reached out to both the department of agriculture as well as the epa and health and human services to try to encourage them to establish a cleanup standard. there are some things we can do under existing law to be able to prevent further migration of any plume but we have been doing that where we have identified problems.>> my real concern is a lack of ownership of the department and therefore specifically about this issue. it came up at the last

well let's speak to john holman who's live for us in mexican mexico city john when it comes to these detentions how many migrants are we talking here and where are they now. i think what we can safely say that is that there are hundreds of migrants who have been detained we're getting their information from colleagues local and international press that were there at the scene down in chapters but we haven't got an exact number of that we have phoned up the press so obvious but the national institute of migration down in the state chap purse and they told us they weren't even aware about what had happened so some slight confusion here but it seemed that agents not just from the police but also from the national migration of this sort of swooped in on these migrants when they were on these people who were migrating when they were taking a rest stop in the town of the here in this town is one that we put in ourselves on the first caravan and at that point they were receiving quite a welcome from townspeople on the way through people giving them food and drink and obviously the authoriti