jim baker and peter baker, thank you both. i appreciate you. two of our bakers dozen. well done. >>> up ahead, battling over the russia probe. taunts and threats with the speaker and a bit of may hem. democrats have been sucked into trump's vortex of chaos. our experts join me at the table, and that's next. >>> and later, is britain's present america's future? first came brexit, then came trump. now britain's leader is out and they don't know what they're going to do next, so what the heck happens here? more "mtp daily" after this. p d. man 2: proof of less joint pain... woman 3: ...and clearer skin. man 3: proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... woman 4: ...with humira. woman 5: humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. humira is the number one prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. (avo): humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, includi

- not wanting to trigger leak investigations, i had been consciously not in touch with jim, this jim baker, for some time. and i -- but we nonetheless invited him to an event that we were holding and when jim came in, he sat down next to me and i said to him, "jim, are you sure you want to be sitting next to me? i'm not sure that's a good idea. it might -- you know, i don't want to trigger a leak investigation." and he paused for a minute and thought about it and said, "i think i'm still allowed to sit next to an old friend." so i want to make two points about that before telling you something else he said later. the first is that he had to think about it. and the second thing is that he did it anyway. and so first of all, it's great to be with you here, sitting next to you in public and without having to think about whether it's appropriate. >> i thought a lot about this. let me tell you. >> the second thing is what he said next, which was, "oh, my god, it's a different thing, it's a different novel issue every day." and that's really what we're here to talk about. so jim, welcome. >> tha

your thoughts about jim baker speaking out and what he had to say? >> i applaud him speaking out. again, the fbi is particularly in counterintelligence, is a culture of secrecy but this time in history calls for us to set the record straight and i think that's what baker is trying to do. in that regard, our attorney general is doing the opposite. he's put out this informationno looking into the predication of the russia investigation. well, get it out. the more he takes time the more the public will think there's something wrong with it. i predict we'll never come to an tend because the ag doesn't want to see it resolved. >> i want to bring this back to the man who spent 22 months looking back to the original conduct by george papadopoulos. robert mueller found after 22 months his investigation established multiple links between campaign officials and individuals tied to the russian government. those included russian offers of assistance to the campaign, in some instances the campaign was receptive to the offer. most parents recognize patterns. we learn pattern recognition if our

your thoughts about jim baker speaking out and what he had to say. >> i applaud him speaking out.gain, the fbi and particularly counterintelligence is a culture of secrecy, but this time in history calls for us to set the record straight. i think that's what baker is trying to do. our attorney general is doing the opposite. so he's put out there this notion that he's looking into the predcation of the russia ci investigation. well, get it over with, get it out now. because the longer he takes doing this and implying there's something wrong with it, the more the public will think there's something wrong with it. the ag doesn't want to see it resolved. >> joyce, i want to bring this back to the man who spent 22 months looking at the questions that emerged from that original suspicious conduct from papadopoulos which was the match. robert mueller found that his investigation established multiple links between individuals tied to to the russian government. those lengths included offers of assistance to the campaign in some instances the campaign was receptive to the offer. so most par

. >> joining us now is cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin, jim baker along with former deputy assistant attorney general elliot williams. jeffrey, first of all barr is saying he doesn't think investigators committed treason as a legal matter. >> you know, he's got this phlegmatic style. everything seems matter of fact. it's important to remember just how extraordinary what's going on is. he is ordering a new investigation, probably the third investigation of what you described correctly as court-ordered surveillance, an authorized investigation of the highest officials of the fbi. so it's not just that there was no treason. there couldn't possibly be any treason, because treaso is helping a foreign adversary in a time of war. and his matter of fact attitude about that i think camouflages just what a serious matter this all is. >> it's sort of normalizing what is abnormal situation? >> exactly, exactly. >> jim, it's your former colleagues the president is accusing of treason. are you surprised the attorney general didn't just put all that talk to rest today? >> well, he made a legal conc

former fbi general counsel jim baker talks about the mueller report.emocratic presidential candidate accused gillibrand .ampaigning in new jersey c-span3, the modernization of congress committee meets on legislation to provide greater transparency in the legislative process at 9:00 a.m., followed by dr. scott gottlieb, former fda commissioner talking about this time of the agency at 1:00 p.m. the complete guide to congress is now available with lots of details about the house and senate for the current session of congress. contact them biography information about every senator and congressional committees, state governors, and the cabinet. the 2019 congressional directory is a handy spiral-bound guide, order your copy from the c-span online store for $18.95. >> at the white house, president trump talked about efforts to cut down on unexpected medical bills. he responded to reporters questions about subpoenas presented to his son, donald trump, jr. in relation to the russia investigation. as well as questions about trade relation with china, u.s. policy

jim baker, the general counsel for the fbi, set the record straight today. he said the fisa warrants were not based on the dossier. they were based on the information that papadopoulos had with a foreign ambassador. that's how we launched a counterintelligence investigation. in the counterintelligence investigation had nothing to do with the president. it was a concern about russian interference in our election. >> melissa: do you think that angie mccabe lied when he said in sworn testimony that they couldn't have gotten the fisa warrant without the dossier? >> i don't know, but that is certainly contradicted by the general counsel at the fbi, jim baker. i encourage everyone to read his statement. he said that the fisa warrant was primarily based on the information they received from a foreign ambassador about a concern of russian interference. i would think every american would bond the fbi to act if there was any evidence of foreign interference. >> melissa: i am sure they would, but they would want to make sure that everything in the underlying warrant wa

jim baker, thanks for coming on.preciate it. >> thank you. >>> up ahead, our experts are going to weigh in on our conversation. also how should the democrats respond to the white house's latest moves on the investigation. plus could democrats find their next nominee in a deep red state. the governor of montana sure hopes so. he'll be joining me live coming up. up with a terrain management system for... this. a bash plate for... that. an electronic locking rear differential for... yeah... this. heading to the supermarket? get any truck. heading out here? get the ford ranger. the only adventure gear built ford tough. so, i started with the stats regarding my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. like how humira has been prescribed to over 300,000 patients. and how many patients saw clear or almost clear skin in just 4 months - the kind of clearance that can last. humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to symptoms. numbers are great. and seeing clearer skin is pretty awesome, too. th

i wish the entire country could hear jim baker, the general counsel of the fbi.ade it abundantly clear the investigation had nothing to do with the dossier. it frankly had nothing to do with the trump campaign. it was on actionable intelligence from foreign ambassadors concerned that our democracy was under threat from foreign interference. and guess what, they turned out to be correct. bob mueller concluded that there was sweeping and systematic interference from the russians. jim baker and the fbi should be applauded for the counterintelligence investigation that they undertook. the entire country should celebrate the fbi's work. and this is a total distraction that bill barr is trying to undertake. >> you called it a distraction, but do you see reasoning behind the attorney general launching a review? with this in mind, while the inspector general of justice is still conducting his own investigation on this very same thing. i mean, the i.g.'s review has been going on for more than a year. >> and the i.g.s are typically very, very capable. we have had i.g. audi

jim baker, thank you very much. >>> breaking news on michael flynn. if you haven't heard this story, it is amazing. cnn has learned he contacted a gop critic of robert mueller while he was allegedly cooperating with the special counsel and was encouraging this critic to keep it going, to keep the pressure on, to keep talking out against the investigation. we'll tell you who that was and what he wrote to him. >>> joe biden is said to kick his campaign into higher gear this weekend. with the field of democratic contenders now at 23, is that just too large? we'll talk it over with maggie and howard dean. forget about vacuuming for weeks. the (new) roomba i7+ with clean base automatic dirt disposal empties the roomba bin for you. so dirt is off your hands. if it's not from irobot, it's not a roomba. there's thousands of ingredients out there. the freshest stuff this planet can grow. not buzzword fresh. but, actually fresh-fresh. fresh. at panera, we hand-pick berries at peak-season. use creamy avocado. cage-free eggs. and a dressing fit for a goddess. oh

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>>> next on c-span 3, a conversation on the russia investigation with former fbi general counsel jim baker after that, a look at increasing public transparency regarding the legislative process. then challenges facing the american retirement system and a senate finance committee hearing. >>> former fbi general council jim baker was the featured speaker at a conversation on the mueller report. he also answered questions about his role in the fbi's investigation into russian interference in the 2016

this is an attorney whose best getting jim baker, now bill bar is into the investigation he talked abouthe spine that he thanks did occur and as a basis for my concern of the spying that took place in really scary, unauthorized surveillance and political surveillance before he was to get to the bottom, he's elected john durham, i think it's a good thing police a good thinking, as we close out, the investigation into the investigators is now underway, this day could've not got here soon enough. it certainly feels good to consider the prospect of justice being done. and for the politically corrupt officials in both justice and the fbi in intelligence community as well. it feels pretty good to see the beginning. >> it sure does and look, i think bill bar has handled himself exactly the way the american people want the attorney general to operate and i think it will get to the bottom and answers well-deserved. lou: jim jordan thank you so much. up next, turns out it's easy to negotiate with the other side if you take the position. that approach being used. we will take that appear next. also

attorney who was also looking into jim baker that's where the investigation was taking place. if that's who bill barr selected and it's not just the dossier remember what we learned two weeks ago. "the new york times" reported the fbi took someone posing as someone else, those are two cases where something took place.so >> laura: we also have to play bernie sanders who was out there tonight, i want to play george papadopoulos first and get you and ray and joe to talk about it, let's watch. >> i fly to greece, i have dogs sniffing for money, i'm arrested in dulles with agents rummaging through my bags looking for money. clearly this was some sort of sting operation andki by the tie it happened the special counsel was appointed. >> laura: they were dangling money at him, they all knew how this was all going to go. this was all rolled out according to plan. >> they put somebody posing as somebody else with george papadopoulos and started asking all of these questions early on in this investigation. >> laura: that is what kicked it all off, supposedly. a >> back in july of 2016. b

remember jim and tammy baker begging for your tithes between 8:00 and noon?> make a pledge of $500. >> then jim baker had a sex scandal with jessica hahn, was indicted for wire fraud, and spent eight blessed years in prison. today he has changed his ways and be found selling meal buckets for the rapture? oh, boy. >> we have been doing what god spoke to me in prison would happen. he says the last days are coming. >> the prosperity gospel is put on steroids and church leaders are rolling in the profits. to be clear that is profits with an "i." churches of this magnitude wield a lot of power not just spiritually, also financially and politically. to find out what they're doing with that power, i'm going megachurch hopping in dallas, texas. dallas is the birth place of the megachurch. with over 200 megachurches in texas, dallas is the buckle of the bible belt and ground zero for some of the most powerful churches in the country. it's sunday morning outside of dallas and i'm attending fellowship church in grape vine, texas. >> megachurches have become a pretty new

and jim baker had a sex scandal with jessica hahn and indicted for fraud? he changed his ways and he can be found selling buckets for the boys. we have been doing what god spoken to me in prison. he says the last days are coming. >> prosperity gospel has been put on steroids. they are rolling in the profit. that's profits with an "i." to find out what they are doing with that power, i am going mega-church hopping in dallas, texas. dallas is the birthplace of mega-church. dallas is the buffalo of the bible and ground zero of some of the most powerful church es in the country. it is sunday morning, outside of dallas, i am attending fellowship church outside of grapevine, texas. >> they don't want to look traditional, they want to look like the mall of god. >> i have invited my man of the cloth, pastor michael mcbride to attend service with me. i found out his church is down tp stre the street with me. i like pastor mike's church because it got the feeling of my deb grandma in the 21st century. >> i appreciate all of us and all of you participated. >> i have b

attorney who was investigating jim baker. former chief counsel of the fbi. now bill barr selected him to lead his investigation, and get to the bottom of the term bill barr used not the term you and i use but used four weeks in front of senate finance he talked about spying he thinks did occur he thinks there's a basis for my concern about that spying that took place, and he used a couple of terms that are really scary. unauthorized surveillance and political surveillance. he wants to get to bottom it have he selected john durham i think it is a good pick. >> as we close out here, the investigation into the investigators is now underway. the state kopght have the goen here soon enough, but -- >> i agree. but it certainly feels good to consider prospect of justice actually being done, and for these -- politically corrupt officials in justice with and a fbi and intelligence community as well -- now appears it feeling freald to see beginning of it. >> sure does. sure does lowing and look, i think bill barr has handled him exactly the way the american people wan

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. >> laura: well, that's from former general counsel of the fbi, jim baker about our next guest. george stephanopolous -- no, papadopoulos, said that he has only just begun to lay out the time line of when he believes the obama intel agencies were attempting to entrap him. he joins us now. george, what haven't you revealed to date, how many agencies were coming after you, one person, and something that they tried to get your girlfriend to do? what was that? >> oh, my god. thanks for having me, laura. besides the fbi trying to have my then-girlfriend, now wife, wear a wire to try to entrap me herself which was completely crazy, she was an italian citizen visiting me as a girlfriend, they subpoenaed her and tried to flip her against me, incredibly bizarre. what we believed that they really tar getted her for, she knew all about joseph mips and connections to the italian government and his connections in europe. we found out today the italian government under the presidency of that country, the prime minister, just fired the heads of three intel agencies in italy. i think it has to

. >> what jim baker is saying echoes what you heard comey saying on this network.er veterans of the fbi have been saying. i am glad to hear him, you know, telling the truth. because trump has been engaged in this horrific smear of the fbi in order to undermine his accusers and to claim he's the victim of some kind of crazy deep state conspiracy, which is obviously this fantasy but one that he has fed to a lot of his supporters. and unfortunately he's done it pretty effectively. when comey or baker or thers speak out trump's supporters are not going to believe them because trump has told them these guys are part of the conspiracy, you can't believe what they're saying. it's been actually dismayingly effective on trump's part to inoculate himself against the truth these dedicated servants are revealing. >> he will say it's the liberals, democrats and they'll say -- >> when are facts going to stop trump? >> never. >> he's calling the mueller investigation 13 angry democrats when bob mueller is a lifelong republican who was appointed by republican presidents. >> but yo

. >> jim baker doesn't see the reason for speculation.hat agrees with you is lindsey graham. i want to ask you something, do you think it's just politics that has lead to his difference in perspective? that he got beat up in the numbers really badly for the way he spoke about trump during the primary and now that he's president he's making his play and doesn't want to be caught outside his own party getting primary and that's why he is saying things that run completely contrary to what he said in the past? >> i'm not in the habit of defending lindsey graham but i'd point out in that primary when he got out remember the jokes about ted cruise and including one about killing him on the senate floor, who did he endorse? he endorsed ted cruz for president. so look, lindsey graham is a political operator. and he adjusts as the circumstances change. some of that is politics and frankly some of it is very sincere. donald trump, some people will view this differently, has been a learning experience for a lot of people in the republican party and

you remember jim baker, the once disgraced televangelist in the mid-'80s? he's back. he has a show. want to sell you something that jesus wants you to have. >> this coin is our point of contact. when i asked the lord why the coin, he said because when you take the coin, it's a point of contact. your faith is being released with a million others to play protection and peace and wisdom counsel over the president and his family. that's point of contact. that's why we got to pray, because they think we're crazy, but we're actually the sane ones. that's right. right. >> jimmy: i mean, it does make sense. what sane person wouldn't pay $45 for a coin of trump rubbing heads with the biblical king cyrus? those coins should come with measles. bill de blasio is newest democratic candidate for president. he was on good morning america today who showed donald trump is not the only one who can come up with cutting nicknames for his opponents. >> playing a big con on america. i call him con don. >> jimmy: sick burn. he called him -- i call him condon. he really puts the blah in de blasio. accordin

jim baker is joining us. he was the bureau's top lawyer during the russia investigation. jim, thanks for coming in. first of all, what do you make of this federal judge's rejecting the president's efforts to block a subpoena from the accounting firm for the president's financial records before he became president? >> i think it's a recognition that congress has a lot of power under the constitution. that's just the case. it has a tremendous amount of power. over the years it's not exercised that and been inclined in many instances to see over to the president or presidents, a lot of their power so this is them taking some of this back by trying to enforce the subpoena and so the ruling from the court doesn't surprise me. >> on the other issue, the other breaking news, the white house ordering the former white house counsel don mcgahn to dea congressional subpoena. they released the white house and justice department argument saying it is well within the right of the white house to insin don mcgahn not appear. what do you think? >> i haven't read the analysis yet but as jef

terrific book out that came out six months ago or so and he describes the meeting with reagan and jim bakerd it was suggested to voelker that it would be a good idea not to raise rates between then and election, and voelker didn't say anything, he just stood up and walked out of the room. and that is the proper relationship between the fed and the administration. liz: do we necessitateded a rat? >> we'll find out. i would say in my view, there's nobody better than jay powell to be running the fed. liz: i was going to ask you about odds. you run the odds all the time. you had liked mike bloomberg certainly if he were to run. he's not running. you would have supported him. he's not running. however, another billionaire businessman is, howard schultz, who says he's run the numbers and he can get to 270 electoral votes as an independent. you run numbers all the time. can he get to 270 electoral votes? >> it's extraordinarily unlikely but that isn't a reflection of him. it's a reflection of the electoral system and political system in the country. it's really tough. liz: would he be a spoiler if

and i actually know jim baker very well. i worked with him when i was in the fbi, and his point is i think what many people inside the justice department believe, and that is, this is an agency that was staring at a set of facts, and their job, again, is to protect the united states from foreign intelligence threats. and when they saw all this smoke, they opened an investigation to get to the bottom of it. and as you mentioned, there was oversight as it related to the surveillance tools, not only the 90-day renewal, but they had to go back to the fisa court and show what they found in order to keep these surveillance techniques going. and so, you had that oversight that was in place. one thing i'll say, and lis hit on it, which was spectacular when she talked about this potentially backfiring. again, if you're the president or you're house republicans, i think careful what you wish for here, because the more you get to the bottom of what the fbi was staring at, it's going to be that constant reminder that for the first time

jim baker, chief counsel for the fbi demoted and left. currently under investigation by the justice department. john durham in connecticut. lisa page demoted and left. and peter strzok, who launched and ran the russian investigation. he was demoted and then fired. when he talks about affair of leadership, that's a pretty -- pretty accurate description of what was going on at the top levels of the fbi. >> neil: and on and on we go. attention all shoppers, you're about to get stuck with higher prices and sooner than you think. get ready for the tariffs that aren't already here, and they're here. every day, visionaries are creating the future. so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. e-commerce deliveries to homes bleech! aww! awww! ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft for the win win. it's either the assurance of a 165-pointor it isn't.on proces. it's either testing an array of advance

counsel jim baker demoted, left under investigation by the justice department. lisa paige demoted and left. peter strzok, deputy head of counterintelligence, demote and fired. peter strzok, the guy who ran the clinton investigation and the russia investigation. there was certainly a failure of leadership at the upper echelon of the f.b.i. second thing the attorney general said three and a half weeks ago in front of the senate finance committee. spying did occur. said it twice. yes, spying did occur. third, he said, there's a basis for my concern about the spying that took place. and maybe the most interesting thing, two terms he used, frankly i find frightening, he said there was in his judgment, he thinks there may have been unauthorized surveillance and political surveillance. scary terms. we got to go back to january 3, 2017, senator schumer on the rachel ma dow show talking about then-president elect trump says. this if you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from sunday at getting back at you. now i don't know if the f.b.i. went after pre

. >> let me show you what jim baker said to rachel maddow. >> it's been horrible.sed the word trauma to describe what happened with respect to starting with the clinton investigation, all the way through starting the russian investigation, the transition, the comey firing and the kind of things you outlined before with andrew mccabe and everybody else. these were people that i worked with every day, especially jim comey, i've known him for years, he's my friend, i care about him deeply. i think he's a fantastic leader and he got fired in a way that was terrible in a very humiliating way. so that was really hard. it was a traumatic experience to go through. quite frankly having it talked about endlessly in the media doesn't help. you have to like relive it every day, and there's like no escape because it's just on everywhere. it's been challenging. >> a formere today, it is surreal that the democrats are now the only party that defends the cia and the fbi. people say to me all the time, why are you so hard on the democrats? you're all we've got. that's it. >> it's s

we have jim baker who is general counsel saying that we should listen to them and think these agencies for that service they do for their country. >> harris: just this morning, president trump tweeted this. "my campaign was conclusively spied on. nothing like this has ever happened in american politics. a really bad situation. treason means long jail sentences, and this was treason!" lawrence jones? >> lawrence: i think it's comical that democrats all of a sudden want to protect the institution that they have criticized for so long. especially when it comes to the department of justice as a whol whole. i also think they're making a big mistake, because all the focus has been on the 11 and not drawn to her own, the united states attorney. this is not a guy that's an amateur. he has investigated corruption in the fbi before. he has gotten overturned. this is a guy that has went after the mafia. if he's on the job and he finds corruption, he's going to follow the facts and he is one disrespected by both parties. he was appointed by older, as well. he has served under george w. bush. now h

you know, they swerved out of their lane, don't count on it, especially when we have people like jim bakerrogram this week explaining the lawful predication for the original counterintelligence investigation. >> jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon. jeremy, really appreciate your time tonight. >> thanks, rachel. >> thank you for being here. all right. much more ahead tonight. stay with us. e ahead tonight. stay with us ♪ with venus, you're in charge of your skin. so, write your own rules. because no one gets an opinion on why you shave - or how you show your skin. ♪ i have no idea how we're going to get through this. follow me. unitedhealthcare has the people and tools to help guide you through the confusion, well that wasn't so bad at all. that's how we like it. unitedhealthcare. that's how we like it. with advil liqui-gels, what stiff joints? what bad back? advil is... relief that's fast. strength that lasts. you'll ask... what pain? with advil liqui-gels. control your blood sugar around the clock. and with a $0 copay, ♪ let's groove tonight. that's something to

. >> john, we just had jim baker on who was one of the original investigators and he said that part of the reason that bill barr may be feeling so confused is because all of the original investigators are gone. if there's ever anything that is confusing to him or a discrepancy he can't go to them directly to ask them. i suppose he could pick up the phone. >> he could pick up the phone. >> and call them, but maybe he's waiting for the inspector general report to come out. either way there are answers out there. they are happy to answer them. >> and this is not an ex fire standard, you don't have to deep:i go in too deep here. again, russians were trying to influence our election on donald trump's behalf. does that rise to the level of concern for our law enforcement during election, yes or no? and if that question is tough for you imagine a democrat candidate was in that positio, i think you would hear a very different tone. while bill barr is going to the dick cheney school with the gravelly tone he's clearly still feeding the president. >> stoking the fire behind him. >> well played.

and we should get to this, jim baker, a part of this drama, a character very much of the drama of thest two years. laura, first to you, an analysis of what we are now hearing from william barr. this is all his response to robert mueller's first public statement out loud. what did you hear? one of the things i did hear there. because barr chooses his words so carefully. he said many of the instances in this report would not amount to obstruction. he didn't say all. that was interesting to me. >> yeah, it's fascinating just, first of all to have him sort of talking about robert mueller in this way after the fact. this is somebody who worked for him, essentially, under the justice department special counsel guidelines. so to now have the attorney general come out criticizing him for his legal analysis, i think, is sort of just eyebrow raising, but as a separate matter, on the issue of the legal sort of fissure that you see between these two men, i think reasonable minds can disagree about that. for the attorney general, if there isn't an underlying conspiracy, then you can't get to obstr

director mccabe, fired, lied three times under oath, according to the inspector general, fbi counsel jim baker, demoted and left currently under investigation by the justice department. lisa page, demoted and left. peter strzok, deputy head of counterintelligence, demoted and fire. there was certainly a failure of leadership at tupper echelons of the fbi. second thing the attorney general said three and a half weeks ago in front of the senate finance committee, spying did occur. said it twice. yes, spying did occur. third, he said, there's a basis for my concern about the spying that took place. and maybe the most interesting thing, two terms he used, that frankly i find frightening. he said, there was, in his judgment, he thinks there may have been unauthorized surveillance and political surveillance. scary terms. we've got to go back to january 3rd, 2017, senator schumer, on the rachel maddow show, talking about then president-elect trump says this. if you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from sunday at getting back at you. now, i don't know if the fbi went after presid

you know, they swerved out of their lane, don't count on it, especially when we have people like jim bakeryour program this week explaining the lawful predication for the original counterintelligence investigation. >> jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon. jeremy, really appreciate your time tonight. for people 50 and older colat average risk.ing honey have you seen my glasses? i've always had a knack for finding things... colon cancer, to be exact. and i find it noninvasively... no need for time off or special prep. it all starts here... you collect your sample, and cologuard uses the dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers. you can always count on me to know where to look. oh, i found them! i can do this test now! ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. covered by medicare and most major insurers. is that for me? mhm aaaah! nooooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand. [son loudly clears throat] [mom and dad laugh] bounty, the quicker picker upper. now with new pri

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director comey fired, fbi counsel jim baker demoted and effort will under ngs by the justice department. lisa page, demoted and left. peter struck, the guy that ran the clinton investigation and the russian investigation, there was certainly a failure of leadership at the upper everybody lon. the second thing he said three naf weeks ago, spying did occur. said it twice. spying did occur. he said there is a basis for my concern about the spying that took place. maybe the most interesting thing, two terms he used that i find frightening. he said, there was in his judgment, unauthorized surveillance and political surveillance. scary terms. we have to go back to jan third. senator schumer on the rachael maddow show talking about then president elect trump saying if you take on the intelligence committee they have six ways from sunday to get back at you. i don't know if the fbi went after president trump in six ways, but i know two ways. first is the now famous dossier. on october 21st, 2016, they used one party's opposition research project. the clinton campaign paid a law if i recollect th