officials hiding deep in al qaeda territory or al qaeda-dominated area.ow the islamic state were bitter rivals of al qaeda, which indeed isis and al baghdadi split away from what was the al qaeda franchise, the nusra group, back in 2014, in order to form isis and actually fought against them, killing many in and around raqqah. so not the obvious place to be hiding, but very close indeed to turkey. some five miles inside syria, close to the turkish border in northwestern idlib province. an area very densely populated now with refugees from government forces and russian forces bombardment, mainly, of towns and cities like aleppo and homs and elsewhere where people have been in the opposition sgru sgr groups. have been heavily concentrated in idlib down in itself, which that whole area has been almost constantly attacked by the regime and russia. a very complex battle space to get involved in. cnn has had some uncorroborated eyewitness reporting from an individual who doesn't want to be named near a village or town called sumada, saying that they reckon ther

unfortunately from tragedy by al qaeda. and professionally from afghanistan supported at that time by the taliban in that's what afghanistan supported at that time by the taliban in that's why the international troops are here in we are fighting a common enemy to get why the international troops are here in we are fighting a common enemy to get it in had it not been for the threat to us step in to had it not been for the threat to us homeland security the troops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking homeland security the troops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria people watching will be saying in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria people watching will be saying al-qaeda those people were saudi nationals obviously previously al-qaeda those people were saudi nationals obviously previously supported by the united states but tell me about what happened when you met with our speaker nonsupport by the united states but tell me

al qaeda still strong in this province near the turkish border. these are the discussions people have as they learn more details over time. here is a look at al baghdadi's life and what it meant and where his death leads us. his face in publicly only once and even then in the presence of a small number. this is the moment friday prayers in mosul and abub bakr ago baghdadi chose to reveal himself. yet, before the infamy of this pulpit, he spent a decade rising quietly. a ph.d. student said to like football, these pentagon records show his capture by u.s. forces in 2004 near fallujah, his hometown and held for years as a civilian internee at u.s. camp buka. one expert who knew him said he turned. >> translator: al baghdadi was not cruel but wanted to fight the americans. he went to a school where he met foreigners and some iraqis who filled his head with such ideas. >> reporter: the man in charge of the camp mur mmur saying see you in new york. i look at those words in a different context right now. >> reporter: then there is silence. a long stretch

deal was fighting going on in afghanistan al qaeda has a deal was fighting going on in afghanistan al qaeda has established had established its bases in afghanistan it was stablished had established its bases in afghanistan it wasn't just a threat to the to the to the united states but it was 1st and then just a threat to the to the to the united states but it was 1st and pommels it was a threat to the people of afghanistan in the fall most it was a threat to the people of afghanistan in. 20 years back russian federation who were supporting that existence against 20 years back russian federation who were supporting that existence against al qaeda in their country so at a few other countries but do not it is state al qaeda in their country so at a few other countries but do not do this this was not helping at that time in until the tragic event this was not helping at that time in until the tragic events of $911.00 took place it's not that the afghans want foreign troops index of $911.00 took place it's not that the afghans want foreign troops in their country unfortunately we have. th

we know the united states supported the taliban and al qaeda in your country but anyway it's we know the united states supported the taliban and al qaeda in your country but anyway you said your meeting with policy was fruitful we said even though the democrats under you said your meeting with policy was fruitful we said even though the democrats under obama of course drone bombed your country you will come to a box or need to install dinner obama of course drone bombed your country you will come to a box or need to and stoltenberg which were silicate at mass killing arguably in afghanistan under nato work which was sillett aided mass killing arguably in afghanistan under nato why are you welcoming all this outside what some afghans may call it why are you welcoming all this outside what some afghans may call it interference in your country we have never. will come and interference in your country we have never. will come and outsides. just point blank. sides. just point blank called or off path. is that. off path. is that the deal was fighting began in afghanistan al qaeda has this

in 2016 they killed the leader of al qaeda in iraq. at doesn't do anything to improve the situation in iraq. it did everything to raise up al-baghdadi. we may be seeing a resurgence of the islamic tastate. they've been restaging more terrorist attacks. now the way we managed to defeat the caliphate was through the u.s./kurdish alliance and that's dead because president trump has very foolishly pulled u.s. troops out of most of syria and abandoned the kurds. that's the alliance that made it possible to defeat the caliphate and kill al-baghdadi. now trump is disbanding that alliance at a moment when there's an opportunity for an isis resurgence despite the death of its leader. >> peter, everyone except for al-baghdadi supporters are celebrati celebrating. is there a feeling this might spark a resurgence? >> i mean, i don't really disagree that anything max said. the death of bin laden didn't produce much reaction from terrorist organizations. a dead leader at the end of the day is dead. >> all right. thank you all so much. >>> still ahead

there are candidates, but unlike al-qaeda, the number two candidates, but unlike al-qaeda, the numbertwoarently a turkmen in origin, isn't particularly well known. it is more likely that the different affiliates that exist around the world may simply go their own way in terms of not necessarily openly breaking the affiliation but feeling that they are more independent and have more autonomy to do as they see fit. there were a number of different cells that existed in different parts of the world, notjust syria and iraq, that laid claim to being a pa rt and iraq, that laid claim to being a part of the broader franchise, and they may simply carry on in their own way from this point on. as far as you can tell, in the last few months after the islamic state group had lost its line, was al—baghdadi able to influence his followers on the ground ? able to influence his followers on the ground? we will go live to the white house. we hear president trump is walking in. let's listen. last night, the united states brought the world's number one terrorist leader to justice. abu bakr al—baghdadi is d

this is kind of al qaeda central. remember them. it appears al baghdadi was probably hiding out somewhere there. we don't know the precise circumstances of that. but that town is not far from the border, a matter of kilometers, miles really. the explosions consistent, sustained in one particular area. we understand that a body is having biometric testing done on it. special force commandos were involved. a ground force having entered before air strikes followed in to perhaps clear up the scene behind. we will hear details in time. long time allies fighting, the syrian kurds, their leader said they were involved in providing intelligence for a historic operation. that's massively complicated pause president trump green lighted a turkish incursion against the kurds making life very complicated given how close the turkish border, this particular raid and quite likely the world's most wanted man, was hiding out. this will be unpacked in the hours ahead as we learn who participated in this and how al baghdadi was found. we will see a comm

it was known as al qaeda in iraq as richard pointed out. defeated in the period of about 2010 to 2011, it repaired into syria. this is where it's basically set up shop. vis-a-vis, the desert lands, the areas that are difficult for any kind of government or regime to infiltrate and to break up this network of what is essentially an insurgent guerrilla organization. this is where baghdadi is thought to be located not just by american intelligence, but western intelligence for many, many years. for him to leg it from there and go all the way up suggests to me he's either trying to move into turkey, which, again, i do agree with richard. that would be a plausible move for him to do particularly in light of the virtigenous moves, not just by the united states, but the russians, the turks. a consortium of different state actors. or, you know, find another doll sail domicile in syria he can repair to. here's the important thing to keep in mind. the deal that was struck between turkey and russia in the last week as a direct result of donald trump's

also, too, it is a strong hold of al qaeda. that many militants who have a serious ideology and look to the west, is what do they do about the idlib situation. did the leader of isis compete in the stronghold. turkey said it's been at the forefront of the ice against isis. it's critics are allowing it to be creative. i saw myself arriving and crossing over the border in areas that would become the isis so-called caliphate. these questions about development and how they inserted themselves into the area. this is a victory for donald trump. he will make the most of it he possibly can and exceed our expectations. at the same time, you cannot take away from any of this the extraordinary feat of u.s. military objections. pulled off the most important goal in the fight against isis. >> as you just indicated, the where and the how is highly significant. we have new video we want to bring in. these are videos that appear to show a major operation, involving several helicopters and warplanes. it is in idlib province. close to the turkis

any terms other than ts the next big one from al qaeda.we may do one more and then sign books and disappear and go sell more books. >> this may pick up on what you were just talking about, but i'm interested in what you learned about the motivations of the people that you interrogated and to what degree to anticipate or dispel the forming of more and more groups. >> there are two basic groups of people, the original were very smart. they were not apologetic. the motivation was interesting from an american perspective which is a shortsighted in some ways selfish what's in it for me. the motivation was the it won't come out of my generation or my children's generation but maybe my grandchildren's generation there will be an acknowledgment that the only way to live is by the rule of the book that nations across the world don't rule by the rule of the book because they are corrupt and the only way to take out those governments is to get rid of the americans because they ar are te backstop to these corrupt regime's so their philosophy was if yo

of the american people who were killed in a tragedy by al qaeda. and professionally from afghanistan supported. immunity unfortunately from afghanistan supported at that time by the taliban that that's why i tied the internet. here the taliban in that's why the international troops are here in when we have there fighting a common enemy an enemy to me to get to that good. how did i did not not been told all the right that. to to you is homeland security. the troops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking in the condi we would draw you hoops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops from troops farrow there appear what people will say anything saying. those was those people with that nationalist was obviously previous algy's you know ported by the united states but at televisa only previously supported by the united states but tell me about what me what happened when you had a map at one with when you speak with a speech and he never learned to see people because he because bush is repor

the islamic state came out of a dispute between al qaeda, between al qaeda central and it was just basically a turf war between baghdad, the now the head of the islamic state and the al qaeda forces in syria, al qaeda wanted there to be separate entities, one in iraq and one in syria. baghdady said no, we should be fighting together. the islamic states, kind of look at them as this might be overly simplistic but they are the hardliners of the jihadists. to them it's their way or the highway. the islamic state, if you don't swear you're apostate to them. where as al qaeda, they kept this, let's work with other groups. let's try and work with elements of the syrian insurgency, and it's a more subversive way. they get their hooks in and wind up converting individuals to their cause. but at the end of the day the islamic state came from the failure to defeat al qaeda in iraq, when the u.s. withdrew in by december 2011. the islamic al qaeda in iraq was already reorganizing and starting to conduct small scale attacks by 2012, you had assassinations. you had prison breaks which really helped the gr

allowing isys to rise from those ashes of al qaeda and iraq and syria will invite more of the chaos that breeds terrorism and our adversaries will certainly fill that vacuum. the ignite the brutal bashir al-assad regime with those arab communities and create the same conditions that let isys grow in the first place. and then gaining more leverage throughout the middle east and even promote in africa and with access to a strategic core door running away from to ron to its very doorstep of israel. madam president where do we go from here? many of us in the senate are ahead of the game to reaffirm the american global leadership against radical terrorist at the beginning of this year a bipartisan super majority of senators warned about this course of events and the mcconnell amendment earned 70 votes back in february warning against the precipitous withdrawal and noted the need of american presence congress should affirm or actually reaffirm those same troops today and do so strongly. unfortunately the revolution crafted by house democrats isn't so much wrong as it is insufficient focusing o

it is very important to deal with those groups, be they isis or al qaeda affiliate or former al qaedailiates. however, it is import also view it as protection issue. when you're talking about those large number of civilians living there who do have nowhere else to go, and that is the real fear that i've had medially for the people of idlib when i heard the news. amy: emma, you worked hard to try to have some of these journalists released. you knew them. of course, kayla mueller, who himself, by baghdadi she would be the first to point out as a humanitarian aid worker, as a peace activist that so many more muslims had been killed under isis. the ease women raped by isis. -- the yazidi women raped by isis. if you could talk about you knew that died? close community, those of us that work in these kinds of areas. so we knew of or new everybody that was detained, not just myself, but many of my colleagues that were working in the area werere perersonally affected by this. we did everything that we could within the sort of limited capacities that we had as individuals to try to help, to ha

out of a c state came dispute between al qaeda, between al qaeda central and -- just basically a turf war etween baghdad, the -- now the head of the islamic state and al al qaeda forces in syria, qaeda wanted there to be separate entities, one in iraq syria. in baghdady said no, we should be fighting together. kind of looktates, at them this might be overly implistic but they are the hardliners of the jihadists. to them it's their way or the highway. islamic state, if you don't -- you're an apostate to them. al qaeda, they kept this, let's work with other groups. with elementswork of the syrian insurgency, and it's a more subversive way. hooks in and wind up converting individuals to their cause. the t the end of the day islamic state came from the ailure to defeat al qaeda in iraq, when the u.s. with drew 2011. by december the islamic -- al qaeda in iraq and lready reorganizing starting to conduct small scale ttacks by 2012, you had assassinations. you had prison breaks which expand elped the group kadri its experienced back in. hen they started -- the syrian civil war was a major --

unlike, for instance, bin laden, who was a cult figure in al qaeda, al baghdadi wasn't seen as the embodimentte. he was seen as the head of it. you didn't have the cult of personality. osama bin laden, his fame goes back to the mid 1980s, during the soviet occupation of afghanistan. baghdadi, when he first appeared in july of 2014, announcing the position of the caliphate, he was in the unknown. even within iraq itself. he was an unknown figure. we know that the islamic state, in afghanistan, in the fill l n philippin philippines. and it's unlikely if abu baghdadi, that isis is going to disappear. >> we will leave it there for now. it will bornlt to get your perspective in the coming hours. 50 days, front-row seat as they tried to hold on to their caliphate. all of those people that still believe in the brutal ideology. ben wedeman, we'll come back to you. >>> please stay with cnn as we cover the breaking news. a military raid is believed to have killed the leader of isis. because getting older... should mean being healthy enough to act young. because farmers should be able to use less water

president obama's retreat from iraq allowed isis to arise from the still-warm ashes of al qaeda in iraq. if not arrested, withdrawing from syria will invite more of the chaos that breeds terrorism and creates a vacuum our adversaries will certainly fill. it will invite the brutal assad regime to reassert its impressive control over northeastern syria, repressing sunni arab communities and creating the same conditions that led to isis growth in the first place. russia will gain more leverage to amass power and influence throughout the middle east, project power into the mediterranean, and even promote its interests in africa. iran-backed forces could have access to a strategic corridor that runs all the way from tehran to the very doorstep of israel. so, madam president, where do we go from here? well, many of us in the senate were ahead of the game on the need to reaffirm american global leadership in the ongoing fight against radical terrorists. at the beginning of this year, a bipartisan supermajority of senators warned about exactly this course of events. the mcconnell amendment to s

specifically, we have decimated the leadership al qaeda. we captured khalid sheikh muhammad, killed osama bin laden and most recently removed his son and rising leader hamza bin laden from the battlefield. most importantly, we have not allowed afghanistan to be the stabling ground for another devastating attack on our homeland. we've also helped to implement social reforms. millions of afghanistan people have voted in democratic elections at all levels and afghan women who are not allowed to attend school or hold a job during the brutal reign of the taliban in the 1990s have made significant gains, and i was pleased to hear women were part of these negotiations. these accomplishments have not been without great sacrifices. 2300 americans have given their lives in this conflict including sergeant 1st class jeremy griffin who was killed in action in afghanistan just on monday. >> over 20,000 more have been wounded. we must never forget their courage or the price we paid in both blood and treasure to protect our homeland or to build our future

he emerged in 2010 as the leader of al-qaeda in iraq, one of the groups that merged with is, and rosece during the attempted merger with the al—nusra front in syria. a night—time strike on the highest of targets. this unverified footage is said to show commanders attacking the hideout of abu bakr al— baghdadi, the leader of the islamic state group. american media and iraqi security sources suggest he was killed. this is said to have been the aftermath of the attack in a glib province near the turkish border. there are reports that he and others detonated suicide vests as the us moved in. if confirmed, one of the words most wanted has been wiped out. his only public appearance was in 2014 at a mosque where he declared the so—called caliphate of is, an area at its height the size of britain from where it's group waged its terror. under his menacing black flag his jihadists took over swathes of syria and iraq, massacring, enslaving and raping. they plotted attacks across the world, attacking brainwashed bombers everywhere from the us to france, turkey to indonesia, britain to australia.

wedge in bin laden's al qaeda, not the other al qaeda.e islamic state in iraq was a branch of al qaeda. it is very didn't when bin laden was killed versus when baghdadi is killed. when bin laden was killed al qaeda benefited from a deep cadre of people who had been with bin laden from even before he established al qaeda. some of them still exist until today. the number two of al qaeda was al czar wowwy. they're still running the organization with him. and i think the situation with isis is a little bit different. you'll have a vacuum of leadership. it will be very difficult to fill that vacuum. why? because isis said we're a caliphate. in order to be a caliph, you need to be from koresh and an arab. koresh, the tribe of the prophet. the number two now that is supposedly going to be fit, you know, the position or fill the position of the caliph he's a turkman so it will be difficult for them to stay true to their brand and promote a leader that can be trusted by the rank and file. al qaeda did not have this problem. al qaeda had a lot of l

the islamic state came out of dispute between al-qaeda, between al-qaeda central and -- it was basically a turf war between baghdadi, the head of the islamic state and joe lonnie who is allocating force in syria. the al-qaeda one of the to be separate entities, when iraq in one in syria. baghdadi said no. we should be fighting together. the islamic state kind of look at them as this might be oversimplistic but they are the hardliners of the jihadist. to them it's their way or the highway. the islamic state if you don't swear to baghdadi and islamic state, then you're an apostate to the period were as al-qaeda they kept this let's work with other groups. let's try and work with elvis of the city insurgency and they come it's more subversive way and they get the hooks and in the wind of converting individuals to the cause. but at the end of the day the islamic state came from the failure to defeat al-qaeda in iraq when the u.s. withdrew in december 2011, islamic state -- al-qaeda in iraq was already reorganizing and started to conduct small scale attacks by 2012. you had assassinations, pr

might have some sort of alliance with al qaeda? >> i'm not prepared to make speculations or judgments right now. what's important is that the head, the founder of isis is dead, we got him. it signifies the enduring defeat of isis. >> i'm not trying to take away from the achievement, i'm just trying to find out as much information as possible. should we assume the u.s. deconflicted with russia, in other words told the russians, we're going to be here just so there wasn't any understanding, miscommunication, or kinetic action between the two, between the u.s. and russia? >> i'll say broadly we had communications with the russians. we deconflict all type of things. i'll just leave it at that. >> what does this mean for the troops that have been sent into the region to help protect the troops that are helping to protect the oil fields in syria? >> well, the two are separate but related. related in the sense that both signify, again, our commitment to the enduring defeat of isis. the troops now that are denying isis access to those oil

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within a year he became a leader of al qaeda in iraq but eventually broke away to form the islamic statend syria. the u.s. is now offering a $25 million reward for al baghdadi's capture. what we do know, of course, was that this raid was based on cia intelligence in an area where normally the united states would not even have boots on the ground. and that is highly significant. cedric layton is a former deputy director of the nsa and is a cnn military analyst. he joins us now live from washington. and i want to talk to you about that. we've gotten in northwest syria here, an area where it's conceivable that without tipping off the russians or turkish forces or the syrian force that's they would have had to get air clearance, right? or do you believe this was more about the way the osama bin laden raid went in pakistan where you really try and tell no one? >> well, you know, paula, it could be both. there is, you know, perhaps one of the parties involved like turkey may have known something about this or the russians may have known something about it. because it is in the interests actual

the general view as a strategic alliance between the two, there are issues associated with al qaeda and the caliphate itself was thought to be a mistake the very issue from aku bakr al-baghdadi the palace being rated. my guess is we will continue to see much like we have today they may battle in places like yemen or east africa. but with the homeland we do see the idiosyncratic adoption of individuals with that ideology and we have seen that in europe but in general i don't think we will see a strategic relief. >> switching gears to cyberwhat are your thoughts on block chain and cybersecurity is there the increased vulnerability or decreased? >> is that protected in any way? >> it has potential to decrease vulnerability by have a measure to verify transactions across multiple entities. they're interesting in chain - - ways being explored like supply-chain with my customs border protection background to verify that shipment from manufacturer's facility all the way to unloading at a walmart in the us is a very promising capability. ultimately watching how that's applied in various sectors

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of course over time, as al-qaeda me tas sized to use a word that often gets used and as al-qaeda became not just an organization that we were dealing with in south aig, but became a global organization with a series of potent and lethal affiliate groups, the challenge and pressure placed on the homeland security apparatus to succeed in that endeavor got quite intense at times and then i would argue the threat began to shift to one that actually became much more of a in some ways, more challenging threat dynamic. that of the so-called home grown violent extreme iss. the idea that we were not as threatened day-to-day by that sheep sleep rer cell insurgent from abroad, but instead, it was most likely the individual who would be inspired, motivated, who would be encouraged, propelled into action by an ideology or in some cases, but actual individuals overseas connecting with them. that became a much more difficult and challenging problems in some ways for law enforcement because of course identifying those individuals in the absence of the kind of usual communications patterns you see when

iraq more most interesting original i would became i sold for a rose from al qaeda in iraq more most interesting to me is that groups like al shaab more on nuestro however they were called before seem to me is that groups like al shaab more on this or however they were called before were presented in the western media as these moderate rebels who are going to help the u.s. and were presented in the western media as these moderate rebels who are going to help the u.s. and the coalition defeat isis and talk of a sudden you know that we that bubble has complete the coalition defeat isis and talk of a sudden you know that we that bubble has completely been exploded just like finding bin laden in pakistan as opposed to tora bora where ever been exploded just like finding bin laden in pakistan as opposed to tora bora wherever what he saw that coming except people who do region same thing would know what he saw that coming except people who do the region same thing would be hiding in adlib poku here right now as u.s. policy in syria would be hiding in adlib poku here right now is u.s. policy

before hitting the al qaeda sanctions list in june 2011. here he led the islamic state of iraq, the al qaeda franchise in iraq. but as the u.s. left iraq and the spring fell apart, sectarian violence of civil war bag a magnet for the blood thirsty. it led to the extremist groups to split in february 2014. months later the group showing breaking the porders of iraq. with al baghdadi at its helm claiming direct lineage from muhammad. an attack on an occupation of mosul. the atrocities in mount sin ja, the procedure of kobani. one of the more terrifying things about the isis he helped create is not its obsession with gruesome video and act of murder, but instead its harnessing of social media to create a global franchise of people it often never met in libya, paris, brussels, people attracted to isis's brand to commit atrocities and even die for it. but in november 2014, rumors of an air strike hitting him. within a week a recording of his speech. [speaking foreign language] . it became a pattern. randomly released audio performs. they believe

there are issues associated, al qaeda thought the cal fat itself was a mistake. the very issue of al baghdadi being a cal if, graded at aaq to be sure. my guess is we're going to continue to see, isis and aq battle in places, yemen and east africa. whereas in the homeland and director wray could talk to this, we see an iddio sin kratic -- individuals will cite cisis, we've seen that in europe. but in general, i don't think we're going to see a strategic alliance. >> switching gears a little bit to cyber, what are your thoughts on block chain and its impact on cybersecurity and is there an increased vulnerable with block chain or is it decreased? is that protective in any way, i guess? >> i think it has potential to dekroo decrease vulnerable subpoe. supply chain is critical. i'm speaking of the traditional cargo from customs and border protection background, being able to verify that from a facility all the way to unloading it at a walmart in the u.s., that's a promising type of capability. i think ultimately block chain will be a help as it's aplaced in various s

isis and al qaeda were at each other's throats. of each one pledges allegiance to different ones. if you're a terrorist you pledge allegiance to someone. with osama bin laden long gone, al baghdadi gone, do they talk about reconciliation and forming another group. >> i'm not the kind of deep expert that others are, but i think it is offense they you could have a folding on size back into al qaeda. isis's whole point was bring the caliphate about here and now. it is perhaps generations from now. isis having gone out there trying to establish a caliphate, maybe that is not their adheren adherence. member they need to merge back into that group. >> the pentagon is expected to release new video of the raid that killed al baghdadi. we have the animation on our screens right now, what can we learn from it? >> i'm dubious about releasing this information. i don't think we need to know anything about this. my fear is that this may show some things that are about the way that delta force and the night stalkers work, and it will allow our tac

hasn't gone anywhere how big daddy was a symbol of ns death al-qaeda hasn't gone anywhere but died he was a symbol for sure the 1st caliph and after the 1st comes the set for sure the 1st caliph and after the 1st comes the 2nd and the 3rd and the 4th albert died the alpha can and and the 3rd and the 4th album diety alpha luigi are ramadi and there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terror luigi are ramadi and there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist so the terrorist king is dead long live the king 1st so the terrorist king is dead long live the king. well earlier union o'neal was joined in the studio by america's scenic well earlier union o'neill was joined in the studio by america's senior correspondents in the bush mallett choose been looking at what's next in the fight against terror correspondents in the bush mallett choose been looking at what's next in the fight against terror assuming. it is did post signify. assuming he is dead how significant a development is that what extent will i still be weakened to a development is that what extent will

isis had split from al qaeda.re a large number of al qaeda fighters and a huge presence around the camp as well where this was conducted. as donald trump hinted in his speech, there was a concern, perhaps, that baghdadi was trying to use his substantial amounts of finances available to him to maybe rebuild, reconstitute the so-called islamic state, perhaps using the other groups around him of a similar idealogical ilk. fred? >> sam kylie, thank you so much. >>> still ahead, on the one-year anniversary of the most deadly anti-semitic attack in u.s. history, members of the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh remember those they lost. one out of six vehicles have been recalled because of dangerous takata airbags. one of them could be yours. go to safeairbags.com to see if your vehicle is on the recall list. it could save your life. do you want me to go first or do you want to go first, brea? you can go first. audible reintroduced this whole world to me. so many great stories from amazing people. makes me wanna be be

government is ringing the alarm bell of al qaeda. it is not listened to. read tires and frustration from the fbi in august 2001. thinks he is throwing in the fight and then osama bin laden comes to him two weeks later. >> hank you all for coming. i will be out in the lobby. >> we have a change for today. we have the exhibit. one, unfortunately, there will be no cookies and coffee tonight. [laughter] sorry. also, we will have the book signing table here on stage. please go by your books. cue up in line along the side. again, it was brilliant. it really was. [applause] three day book tv weekends. here is a look at what is airing tonight and prime time. leading a conversation on the rise and impact of whistleblowers in the united states. bob barr looks back at the clinton impeachment process. an author discussion about warfare in the 21st century. recent norwich military writer symposium in vermont. prime time starting at 8:30 p.m. eastern on c-span two book tv. check your program guide for more information. >> on our author interview program, former chancell

, and the province is well known to be the sort of seat of power of al qaeda in the syrian conflict. while al qaeda and isis have a lot in common ideologically, they also have been fighting each other on the ground in syria for many years and see each other as bitter adversaries. it's interesting to me that is where al baghdadi was hiding out presumably in the quagmire of the jihadist groups and old allegiances between people and someone was clearly looking after him and helping him to move through this area. but it's also worth noting that this is a very long ways away from where it had initially been believed that baghdadi was hiding out, which was somewhere along the iraqi/syrian border near the euphrates valley. he potentially would have had to cross through the territory of kurdish and turkish held areas and regime held areas to get to the area where he was. unclear where he would be trying to go from idlib province and essentially a dead-end and the only way to go from there is three miles into turkey but unlikely one could see that is his plan going along from that province. c

it's been 8 years since bin laden's death al qaeda hasn't gone anywhere. been lardons death al-qaeda hasn't gone anywhere but daddy was a symbol for sure the 1st caliph and after the 1st study was a symbol for sure the 1st caliph and after the 1st comes the 2nd and the 3rd and the force albert guards comes the 2nd and the 3rd and the force albert dyer the alpha luigi ramadi and there's enough cities and villages in iraq the alpha luigi ramadi and there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist so the terrorist king is dead long for every terrorist so the terrorist king is dead long live the king. earlier you know neil was joined in the studio by r.t. america seen live the king. earlier you know neil was joined in the studio by artie america senior correspondent abortion milledge who's been looking at what's next in the fight against terror correspondent abortion milledge who's been looking at what's next in the fight against terror assuming he is dead how significant. assuming. it is dead how significant a development is that what extent wil

formally known as al qaeda in syria it has some 10000 fighters deployed donors al-qaeda in syria it has some 10000 fighters deployed but while the largest it's far from the only jihadi group in the printed lip but while the largest it's far from the only jihadi group in the province some other functions were waging war against the kurds on the grove and some other functions were waging war against the kurds on the ground and their methods didn't impress the united states i've seen around and their methods didn't impress the united states i've seen reports of support well what it is trying to turn over they are trying for a number ball interim if they are accurate and i assume that the are accurate and they would be a factor and i assume that they are accurate they would be war crimes as best as i know the law of land warfare and you would think that that iraq war crimes is as best as i know the law of land warfare and you would think that that would make target number one for washington's war in terror. dog it is number one for washington's war on terror well it isn't because they have

and professionally from afghanistan al qaeda. and professionally from afghanistan supported at that time by the taliban in that's why the international troops that he altered at that time by the taliban in that's why the international troops are here in we are fighting a common enemy to get it in in we are fighting a common enemy to get it in had it not been for the threat to u.s. homeland security to had it not been for the threat to you. yes homeland security the troops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops wouldn't have been here of course i was speaking in the context of the withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria people watching will be saying al-qaeda the us troops from syria people watching will be saying al-qaeda those people were saudi nationals obviously previously supported by the united states but the people were saudi nationals obviously previously supported by the united states but tell me about what happened when you met with our speaker nancy pelosi because t

claims the death of isolator al big daddy is even more significant than president obama's killing of al qaedaleader osama bin laden it's a headline trunks likely to play up as he campaigns for reelection 2020 kimberly helped at al jazeera the white house. well the u.s. says the raid was carried out in berisha that's in northwestern syria there is just a few kilometers away from the turkish border trump says 8 u.s. helicopters took part in the operation which lasted for around 90 minutes al-jazeera as correspondent yourself was one of the 1st journalist to reach the scene of the raid. this is the house targeted by u.s. helicopters and they approached the site at midnight and sealed the area off before they stormed it one person was taken away others were killed in a car passing through was destroyed and u.s. forces also handed over 3 children to one of the neighbors and requested they take them far away and then come back after the operation was completed 7 dead bodies have been recovered so far this home was then bombed by u.s. helicopters accompanied by a recon plane and a plane this house a