before we do all of that, claire, you had wanted to talk to david ignatius about some questions you hadd very well be let loose on the region, across the middle east, across europe and back to america. >> yeah, david, i'd love you to go through what the situation is on the ground with these -- i think it's somewhere around 11,000 people who are actually in prison right now for being terrorists who want to kill everyone in the west, and they are no different than what we have held in guantanamo for years at an exorbitant cost to the american taxpayer. and donald trump, my understanding is he has given them a get out of jail free card by what he's done, and would you talk to that so that we can make sure that people understand this is one of the by-products of a guy who changes foreign policy on a dime when he talks to, frankly, an autocrat. >> you've put your finger on what i think is the most frightening possible consequence of this turkish invasion of syria, that president trump basically has condoned, has said he will not stand in the way of. as you say, there are about 10, 11,000 of

and executive producer the circus david ignatius. and white house correspondent for reuters, jeff mason joins us this morning. >> you know, john heilman, it really is -- it's just remarkable, this guy is making richard nixon look like a choir boy. you have donald trump's campaign manager in jail. will probably be there for the rest his life. his first national security adviser admitted to breaking the law, committing a felony. i mean, you can go down the list, his foreign affairs person, his lawyer, his long-time lawyer, personal fixer in jail. and course of the week say lot is a lot of detail going to be exposed around rudy giuliani's behavior around the globe running to what amounted to an off books shadow foreign policy, pursuing the president's political objectives with people like -- with hinchman with names like igor and lev. so the picture, whatever legal jeopardy rudy giuliani might be in on the backside of these investigations, the optics of the picture that's emerging of his role running around this globe and doing these th

david ignatius. >> oh, good lord. >> david ignatius and gene robinson. >> two kids is right. >> they were kids. incredible game last night and now, believe it or not, washington is coming home with 2-0 lead. >> it was a tight game, 2-2 verlander and strasbourg were shaky in the first inning but then settled down before the nats just erupted on them. they won the game 12-3. there's suzuki with the go-ahead run off verlander, that made it 3-2 and the flood gates opened from there. but the nationals, joe, have gotten through the two pitchers who have been unbeatable to a lot of other teams in both cole and verlander. now they come home having stolen two games and they can win the worlder is vee world series, they've got a couple of chances do it on their home field this week. >> and gene robinson, all of these hits brought to you by bryce harper because he paid for this entire team. any home run you see, soto, look upwards to philadelphia and say, thank you, bryce, hope you're having a good off-season. >> i think i'll take juan soto. >> i think everybody would. >> this tem is incredible

david ignatius says that turkey is likely to attack on air and ground in the next 24 hours. the turkish attacks appear to be coordinated with the russians. they are mobilizing to invade. david ignatius talking about the possible horror that isis detain kne detainees could be broken out of the prison. this is posted by "the washington post" david ignatiu sur s, we will continue to follow that. good evening, lawrence. >> when you hear a story that says something like hours left to stop it. >> at this point, the united states making this decision after immediately getting off of the phone with the turkish president, without consulting with the military, state department, anyone in national security, that was apparently enough to green light this. the question that ignatius is wondering if similarly quick action by the united states right now might be enough to stop this. i don't know if the president is aware of the seriousness, but the force basically moving in to slaughter the kurds, that is the sort of thing that would be a five-alarm fire in any national security apparatus

david ignatius, we're watching a very different state department and it causes me a great deal of painsee what our foreign service officers are going through right now. >>> coming up, help wanted. president trump wants more foreign states to dig up dirt on his political rivals. is he just giving them more leverage against the u.s.? i can't believe it. what? that our new house is haunted by casper the friendly ghost? hey jill! hey kurt! movies? i'll get snacks! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on our car insurance with geico. i got snacks! ohhh, i got popcorn, i got caramel corn, i got kettle corn. am i chewing too loud? believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. enterprise car sales and you'll take any trade-in?rom that's right! great! here you go... well, it does need to be a vehicle. but - i need this out of my house. (vo) with fair, transparent value for every trade-in... enterprise makes it easy. i was on the fence about changing from a manual to an electric toothbrush. but my hygienist said going electric could lead to

. >> and this is really a direct line david ignatius being drawn from the inside in terms of someone who was there and a part of this. what bill taylor described, david, how would you characterize that? is that a crime? >> well, he certainly has the elements of an exchange of something for something else of value. that's usually called bribery. we'll leave it to the house to decide how they want to assess the specific charges. yesterday's testimony as we read it had the feeling for me of a tipping point. it just was of a different character of what we've seen before, mika, and i've tried to think what is it about the way taylor wrote these 15 pages. as you can see from the pictures he's a mild mannered kind of classic foreign service officer. i think there are two things. first, he wrote it almost as a detective story. he arrives in kiev not understanding that there's this second as he calls it irregular channel that's really running things. so through this narrative, he learns more and more and begins to see that these other people are running a policy that has nothing to do with our

david ignatius said, and david's been over in syria and knows so much about the battle against isis. president trump is about to make pay major consequential mistake. he's informing that syrian/kurdish allies that u.s. is withdrawing from positions on the border abandoning security mechanism to allow an invasion by turkish forces. of course this is after the united states had them move some of their heavy equipment off the border in an act of good will. well, they were just being set up for this slaughter. that's what you get for being an ally with donald trump and playing a major role in crushing the caliphate, which, of course, the kurds did. >> and it's just monday, october 7th. with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. white house reporter for "the associated press"on that lemire. political brighter and name analyst nicholas consorry. and eddy jr. over the weekend we learned that a second whistleblower has come forward with information about president trump's july 25th phone call with the president of the ukraine. an attorney representing the original whistleblower says th

but does david ignatius have a point? >> i think he does.trange point in the context that the president's children are both working in the white house and doing business with foreign governments as well. that is a reasonable point to be made. however, it should never take focus away from what the president did which is to work with foreign governments to undermine our elections. >> i think that is right. but i want to get back to the question whether impeachment is going to hurt the democrats. >> okay. >> and i do believe, because i was in judiciary committee at the time and during the nixon impeachment, it could hurt the democrats. depending on how they play it. and one of the things that i think is really dangerous is if you have a bunch of democrats who want to see their face on cable television and decide to give speeches and this is what they've done so far in the hearings all year rather than hiring somebody and during the impeachment time was john door the attorney who asked most of the questions, you've got to have a professional the

he was working with his friend, david ignatius, the paper's investigative journalist with a deep knowledgeused to love to come to this newsroom. he'd walk around and look in offices and see people work and he just beamed. jamal wrote 20 columns in the year before his death. "saudi arabia wasn't always this repressive. now it's unbearable. it is the only home we know or want. yet we are the enemy." this man — the new saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman — was a target of jamal‘s criticism. mbs, as he's known, was hailed by many in the west as a reformer. very nice people. president trump praised him on high—profile trips to washington. it's an honour to have the crown prince of saudi arabia with us. our relationship is probably the strongest it's ever been. we understand each other. at home, however, mbs was soon cracking down on anyone who opposed him. human rights activists and journalists. all highlighted by jamal khashoggi in the post. "i am raising my voice. i can speak when so many cannot." this was not the image of his leadership that the crown prince wanted to project. i think th

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heidi joins the set along with david ignatius. good to have you all.. >> you know, i get so tired, willie, of having people talk about, oh, whether they going to have their sister soldier moment talking about what bill clinton did in 1992. but i think in this case where everybody else on the stage is darting far left, biden is still sort of firmly in the center. this is a good move for mayor pete for a couple reasons. first of all, tell people what they can and can't do in their own churches is unconstitutional. kurt anderson was saying that. it's also pretty extreme. and also running around saying you're going to confiscate guns, probably not the best move, as mayor pete said. hey, we got 90% with us on expanded background checks, we've got a majority with us on banning military-style assault weapons, why don't we start there? so he's really trying to carve out his own space on the ideological spectrum there. i think it's a smart thing to do. >> yeah. and also, joe, on this day of the democratic debate, mayor pete is going to put up an ad attacking by

fred hyatt, and editor for "the washington post," david ignatius commemorate the memory of their colleagueswith a collection of op-eds and special coverage. gentlemen, thanks for being with us. i want to get your reflexes on jamal but first your reaction to that interview on "60 minutes" where the crown prince said, i did not order the murder of your colleague but i take responsibility as the head of the government here. what's your reaction? >> good morning. my reaction is he's actually doing exactly the opposite of taking responsibility. everybody who's looked at the seriously including the u.n. and the u.s. intelligence agencies have concluded that a crime of this magnitude committed by people so close to the crown prince could not have taken place without the knowledge and support of the very top of the government. and if he were really taking responsibility, he would be allowing these investigations to take place with transparency. he would be telling us, among other things, where jamal's body is which we've never learned. he's really do the opposite. the coverup has continued. >> davi

david ignatius pointing out the other terrifying possibility of isis detainees quote, breaking out of camps and prisons. he writes this is a major disaster coming at us because of trump's decisions. quote, hours left to stop it. this is being reported by the "washington post" who does tend to have very good sources on these matters. we'll continue to follow this as it continues to break over the course of the night. that does it. now it's time for "the last word." >> good evening. when you hear a story of hours left to stop it, that pretty much means it cannot be stopped. >> well, at this point the united states making this pre p precipitous decision by the president, immediately after getting off the phone with the turkish president, without consulting with tuesday military, without consuling with anyone in national security, that was apparently enough to green light this. the question that ignatius is raising is whether or not similarly quick action by the united states right now might be enough to stop this. i don't know if the president understands but the idea of a russian and tu

david ignatius reports the sources have moved by air and by ground.eanwhile, ignatius reports that isis is mobilizing sleeper cells in the see of raqqah. >>> and in a tweet yesterday, the president writing we may be in the process of leaving syria, but in no way have we abandoned the kurds who are special people and wonderful fighters. but on the ground in syria, "the wall street journal" reports a very different story. the video teleconference on monday with the commander of the kurdish-led syrian democratic forces, u.s. officials were left scrambling to defuse situations is there. one commanders reportedly yelled, quote, you sold us before storming outside of the room. while another said we have become accustomed by being betrayed by foreign partners. >>> still ahead, we just mentioned we're going to have much more on lindsey graham's offer for rudy giuliani to testify before the senate judiciary committee. >>> ellen is responding after spotting sitting next to former president george w. bush at a football game. those and more, coming right back. (b

i want to add to the conversation, this from david ignatius of "the washington post." a bad situation in northeast syria about to get much worse. sources tell me that u.s. officials, excuse me, have just informed the syrian kurds that turkey is likely to attack on air and ground in next 24 hours. the u.s. will do nothing. i'm also told the kurdish attack appears coordinated with the russians. russian-backed forces are mobilizing to invade the kurdish area from the south. turkish, i'm sorry. the kurdish area from the south. i got the turkish attack wrong at the start of that graph. it's a lot, molly, but tell our viewers what they need to know. >> well, there are serious implications for this clearly for the conflict in syria that has been ongoing, even if it hasn't gotten much attention in the u.s. because it's been somewhat of a stalemate. there will be clear and likely devastating consequences for the kurds that have been such a key u.s. ally, particularly in the fight against islamic state in syria, and in iraq as well. it's very important to president erdogan of tu

. >> journalist david ignatius watched putin's land grab with growing concern. >> the ukrainian leadershat to do. they had believed that the united states stood with them as they tried to become truly independent of russia. a russia that was fighting a war on their boreders to try to suppress them, suppress their freedoms. that they method, america stands with us. >> with russia now occupying crimea and eastern ukraine, the new pro-american government in kiev needed its friends in washington more than ever. but the obama administration first wanted ukraine to clean up its house. then vice president biden was named point man for the anti-corruption effort. >> it's absolutely critical for ukraine, in order to be stable and prosperous and part of a secure europe, to definitely, thoroughly, completely root out the cancer of corruption. >> there was plenty to root out after the hat thief, yanukovych, fled the country. people flocked to the former presidential palace, a sprawling compound decorated in dictator chic, complete with artificial lake and private zoo. there they found documents det

david ignatius from the "washington post" saying he's largely friendly to biden, but what was he thinking on this board and takihaving a ukraine portfolio? should there be children on board members? most definitely no. so this is an uncertain future for him, but the warren stuff is political problems. that's why they're hearing a wrath of advice here and he's trying to make his way through it all. >> it says it particularly unwarrants support for the proposal. but they have no plan to use a scorched earth against the massachusetts senator, largely because they believe it would backfire, and they hope other political rivals would assume that role. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. >> i would think they will. there is already anxiety in the candidate race besides warren, because in the case of taking the senator race from biden, she's sucking up the oxygen from candidates like bernie sanders, pete buttigieg and even kamala harris, so i think you are going to see more -- especially as we approach this next debate, more candidates trying to find ways to undermine warren's message. some

and david ignatius joins us with his reporting and analysis. >>> plus, jonathan lemire with his new reportingid reports that investigators are looking into the president's person attorney for possible lobbying violations. jam-packed "morning joe" just moments away. violations. jam-packed "morning joe" just moments away. ♪ work so hard ♪ give it everything you got ♪ strength of a lioness ♪ tough as a knot ♪ rocking the stage ♪ and we never gonna stop ♪ all strength, no sweat. ♪ just in case you forgot ♪ all strength. ♪ no sweat secret. all strength. no sweat. do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back? about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, improve breathing, and can lower oral steroid use. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. ge

from general flynn's team where they're alleging that basically there were people who went to david ignatiushe washington post." and that james clapper or people on his staff went to him and basically said it's time to take out general flynn. there needs to be a kill shot, basically. clapper people saying he was the director of national intelligence, of course. the president has attacked him. saying he didn't quite use those words. wondering if this is a weevilly way out. was james clapper there when he used the word conspiracy. were he and others out to get general flynn. >> it's chilling. it should give us a concern whether we are democrat or republican in this country that those with the most powerful tools we grant our investigators you may have operatives or intelligence community working with the fbi to come up with and to conspire to take down either a sitting president or those in his campaign, to do that with the laws that we have should concern all of us. >> so last question then, who should be concerned? i mentioned james clapper, in this latest allegation, that he wanted a quote,

because that was a brutal three days. >> david ignatius, we will let you take it from there. you obviously know this, you have been there several times, and you just have to look at what happened, and i'm sure you know this better than any of us, the heroes were once again the kurds, who did quite a bit more than what donald trump said from all reports and also our special forces, our u.s. troops, men and women in uniform over there, you've seen them, they are the best that there is. >> well, joe, and mika, let's start there. the soldiers who do these operations, the special operations forces, drawn primarily from the army, but also from other services, are just the best at fighting, the best fighting force in the world. they operate just as a tempo, and locations, that are difficult, in a way that nobody else can. they also work well in other partner nations which typically don't want to be disclosed, but it's been widely reported that france and britain have some forces that have done similar operations. since the beginning of this war, going back to 2014, our special opera