right now they have complete um munty for publishing hate speech. let them have some liability. think it would change the nature of the debate. >> let me ask you about something fiona hill said during her testimony. she talked about how the idea that ukraine was actually the country that had hacked the 2016 election was part of a kind of russian disinformation campaign. it was fiction, and yet, it has taken hold in a large part of the american public, you know, a lot of people in -- on the hill, the republicans believe it. a lot of people who watch fox news believe it. what does one do about that kind of disinformation? >> there are decades of russian disinformation. the cia caused aids. the cia shot john f kennedy. these things get embedded in our psyches. it's hard to rebut it. it gets stuck in our brains. and the russians are very good at it. i think the other reason that disinformation works is people want to believe it. right? it's confirmation bias. if the republicans are looking for a conspiracy theory to help donald trump, of course they're going to be more receptive to