the last two weeks of the impeachment hearings, and i just cannot believe that all of them, including npr, one of my favorites, who are my favorites because they used to be no usingsed, but even npr is wordings that of

at least that's what npr had professor itself. it was very gratifying at least in a small way. let me give you five propositions about nationalism and then i will sit down and we will talk and take questions. first proposition, nationalism is very old, it's very natural, it's very powerful. empires throughout the ages have tried to eliminate it unsuccessfully. totalitarian Ãhave tried to eliminate it unsuccessfully. to give you an example of how old and deep nationalism or at least national feeling is coming you can go to one of history's great monsters, kiana burke. she is going to liberate france from english. the english kings at this time have a fixation with really not just england but france the english line originally comes from france and the province in france, normandy. the english had been attempting to put an english air on the throne. france precipitates the hundred year war which is fought in france and a debacle for the french but some estimates population declines by half. it's ravaged by famine and disease and combat. what joan is born this is been going on for

in preparation for your this npr program. i really appreciate appreciate how much of the take with it. everything was set to go for your it in the morning, they're desperately trying to get in touch with me. what is it we want. they see, rich, we want to know is that okay if we have a professor on with you. and i said, yes, i know what you doing but it's fine. it's fine have a professor on. who i am going with the interview for your a while and they are basically the can't believe what i am staying and the basic propositions of nationalism are basic really the most people we do scratch the surface our nationals in some forum or another. and are you really staying that her nationalism has brought necessarily synonymous with hatred and bigotry. i'm staying more than that, i'm synced in ashland nationalism really give us modern democracy. and they see okay let's go for your it to break in the middlebury and professor. then they bring in the professor. his sophisticated way, of talking and foreign accent she is originally from ru

now big us public service broadcasters like npr and wnyc are joining podcast networks such as gimlete battle to provide audio especially aimed at children. spotify is also getting in on the act. it's just started testing spotify kids in ireland. the aim is to expand beyond music into audiobooks and eventually podcasts. all of this is being underpinned by the strong growth in on—demand audio as a whole. in the us, nearly a quarter of all people listened to a podcast in the last month. one study estimates that $479 million was spent on advertising on podcasts in the us this year. that's a rise of 53%. we can see the potential. james erskine is from the content marketing agency the big shot. there is potential here, but it is a big challenge to get children to give up the screen and tune and?” think this is a good news story in three different ways. the a good news for us as parents, migrating kids from screens to an audio product is good for them. its good news looking at the business world, and that this makes so much business sense stopping there has been a netflix kids part for a wh

a bad year for them already with harry and megan npr... we will leave it there.tories we can include in our chat then. that's it for the papers this hour. nicola bartlett and olivia utler will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers, and don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc. via the bbc iplayer. thank you nicola and olivia. goodbye for now. we'll be back again un around 40 minutes. —— ataround —— at around the top of the hour. it's pretty soggy out there in the south of the country at the moment. heavy rain and places. for some of us heavy rain and places. for some of us it is just bits and spots and we have a lot of cloud forecasts in the next couple days. right now heavy bursts of rain for a time in the south during the course of the night. some of the rain moving northwards but generally speaking overcast a cross northwards but generally speaking overcast across the uk s

. >> your chairman, adam schiff, did an interview with npr said the president committed bribery and high crimes and misdemeanors. do you agree with it? >> i do. what i also believe is this a time to test the evidence out there. i know mr. schiff, none of us have reached an ultimate conclusion but all of the arrows point in that direction. if the president has evidence of his innocence, evidence that would exonerate him, now is the time to stop blocking witnesses from coming forward. if he had those witnesses, he would allow them to come forward. the only reason he tells mick mulvaney and john bolton to not go to congress is there's nothing they could say that would make the president look better or more innocent. >> cnn obtained a republican memo and they point out the ukrainians got their money. they didn't investigate the bidens. can you convince the american people there was a quid pro quo that was never physically or forfall lfo formally carried out. >> that would be an abuse of power. he leveraged a white house meeting which is one of the most important thing yous cs you can from th

c-span but npr.ng that the equal rights amendment had not been ratified. i remember my mother being really sad about that. i remember talking about who is philip schlafly and how can anybody be like that. phyllis lashley was the leading opponent of the anti-rights movement. i remember having these conversations and i remember at the same time growing up in those decades never feeling like i as a girl was any less powerful than any boy, in fact, the girls were doing better i thought it was better to be a girl. we had a greater spectrum of expression. there were more ways to be in the world. girls did better in school. at the time i got to college there were more women than men in college and then got out of college and we were just doing better, buying their own real estate. having babies. all that stuff. fast forward a couple decades may be about five years ago, six or seven years ago suddenly the default premise of the conversation around women is that we are this underclass. and that somehow we liv

and finally, the american people, you guys, you are divided too. 50% of independents questioned in an npr pbs marris poll did not support, with 42% supporting it. i said whether you ultimately decide trump impeached or not is a fair question. but the time to stop arguing the facts, what he did, why he did it, that's over. we know. it's clear. he pushed a foreign government to investigate his political riv rival, he used the office of the president and u.s. foreign policy to get what he wanted. if you think that's okay, that's something that the next president and the next president and the next president should do with impunity, well, that's your prerogative. joining me now, cnn commentator, van jones and charlie dent. to me, this meets any threshold for impeachment but i want you to respond to what republican congressman will hurd said that ultimately in his mind, it didn't. >> listen, i think it's a fair, people are saying, he's just a sellout. i think if you're a republican in this situation, you are just dealing with trump above you, you're dealing with the base around you. and it's v

special correspondent alisoney auf npr talks to scientist and cookbook author dana gunders about why americans waste so i muthe kitchen, and she gets some lessons on how to cut those losses. it's the latest in our special series on "food wast >> reporter: celebrity chefs share tricks of the trade-- l how to wasteess in the kitchen. it's part of 20-city tour underway the james beard foundation kicked off here in new york cit >> one of our key priorities is the reduction of food ste. >> reporter: esther choi is chef-owner of mokbar, a korean restaurant in brooklyn. tonight, she serves up a traditional korean rice dish she calls buddha bimp. and what's the easiest way to do that? >> you just turn up your oven at 150 to 200 degrees a leave the vegetables overnight. hos the goal dry up. a>> so iswhthat i have here ars that normally would be wasted. >> reporter: the foundation has launched a social media blitz cooking up waste-free recipes.m and the beard foundation is not alone in its efforts. >> we waste 50% more food today than we did in the 1970s. o we, homes, actually make we, in our

we would like to see npr or c-span, pbs, someone have a regular fact checking program to point out the lies that are being told by the president. to fact you ever go check.org or political at? caller: i would like to see it broadcast out. there should be a program mandatory the day after each of his rallies with fact checking. guest: mandatory for whom? color coat by the free press pete mandatory is the wrong word ok. -- caller: by the free press. mandatory is the wrong word ok. that: wouldn't you agree nbc, cnn, the new york times call out trump on a daily basis? caller: the new york times, the washington post, yes i hope so. msnbc is seen as biased. i may agree with what they put out treat that's a good point. they do put on both sides. guest: all right. host: john in orlando, florida. republican. guest: all right. caller: i listen to these people talking about the president's lies. it's despicable to think that they are so biased against this president and the lies that are being told as far as i've been following this since he was elected. the liberal media is the most despicable l

the music stage is heard around the station on npr. up next, we speak with host larry groce on music's role in west virginia culture. ♪ >> ♪ there's a spring in the mountain and it goes down to the town ♪ >> from npr music and west virginia public broadcasting, and by the west virginia tourism office, welcome to

takes the place of the b ster and creait's much healthier for you. >> reporter: i'm allison aubrey of nprnews, cooking for the pbs newshour in san francisco. >> nawaz: stay with us. u comion the newshour: the american trucking industry at a crossroads. and, a thank you to flossie. students reflect on one teacher's impact. for the past two weeks, iranians have taken to the streets by thousands in what began as protests denouncing a hike in gasoline prices. q but the uprisickly turned political, with demands that top officials step down.go the iraniarnment responded with a five-day internet shutdown, so the user-generateds vind accounts that raised were blacked out.emonstrations we still know little about what'sdaappened. yest iran's supreme leader ayatollah ali khamenei said the protests were a u.s.-led plot to destroy the country. >> ( translated ): it was a deep, extensive and very dangerous conspiracy that costte the united sso much money and effort. they wanted to use an opportunity to carry out this move, which was an act of destruction,rson, murder and vandalism, under the pretext of

and tamara keith from npr. she co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." hello the both of you. we have a little bit s this evening on the impeachment, the tug of war between the president and the conganess that is the federal district ldge ruled the president's formal counsel don mcghan should, must testify before laakers, before the congrss. we assume there will be an a precedent for other white set house and administration of cials to be required tgo testify before the congress. we don't know. we haven't hea what the intelligence committee report is, we know the judiciary committee is next, but all this raises, again, the question of the public's perception of thisw and where de go. so, amy, to you, what are we moving at all and how the public is reading this? >> we've had two weeks of hearings which produced a lot of fireworks and a lot of coverage, but it really hasn't produced a lot of movement in the polls. basically, where weave been since -- well, october, basically, since before these hearings began, if you go and you look 538.com has a great tracking measurement of al

and tamara keithrom npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." before i turn to both of you, and welcome by the way, politics monday, a little bit of late-breaking news. and we were just talking about it with yamiche and lisa, and that is the inquiry or the filing by theu acting white se chief of staff mick mul vaibee who was wanting-- mul scrainee who was wanting to join the lawsuit by white house speciallt ecurity advisor john bolton, his deputy. charles cupperman, who were questioning their being spped to subpoena to appear before congress. he has withdrawn that filing. we can set that aside for the as so many otheeces as bothuing of you know, now amy the hearings public hearings starting in two days. different from hearings behind closed doors? >> well, rht other than the fact it's public on camera. >> right. >> well, the ther row is that this coumaybe change people's opinions about impeachment which im very doubtful thgoing to happen. if you go back and you look at what the public hearings did during the nixon impeachment era, they did move

she cohosts the npr politics podcast. welcome to you bot we have some new poll numbers.g in? let's go to iowa first. take a look at some of these numbers. this is from a new poll in iowa for cnn and the des moines regists. look who i at the top. pete buttigieg leads with 25% of support in the state. there you see senators wren and biden and sanders. then you've got the rest of the field, basically everyone else polling below 10%. that is in iowa. amy, start us off here. ng?what's happe >> what is happening here? that 16-point surge?it >> pretty remarkable, that of all the candidates, this is the one candidate who has gon literally from zero to the lead, pulling somewhere around 1% or 2%. what is remarkable about iowa, we've had four polls since march from the des moines register. and while it's ver volatile den --we've had four polls, thre different leaders. it's been of the pool of fourle pe huge field but the same four people are mentioned as either one, two, threer fourince march. what we're seeing is, yes, there's volatility here but it's not, at this point, opening

tv critic eric deggans follows all this for npr and he joins us from st. petersburg, florida. eric, thanks for being with us. what's going on? viy all these streaming ses starting now? >> i know, what's going on? people are drowning in television. things going on here. dfferent firstly, i think there's a l of meia companies that don't want to miss out on the streaming revolution. they realize thathis is a major way that people are choosing to experience television and they want to carve out a piece of that medium and they want to control it. so in thet past, hey may have sold reruns of valued shows t netflix "the office" and "friends" and "big baneory" and shows like, that but they realize that was making netflixr very pl and allowing of the tv industry.a huge corner and dictate terms in away, how much shows are worth. and so some of these companies have decided to pull back those episodes and build streaming services arod them so they can control their own platforms, they can control their own piece of this mthedium, and thee other reason is that it's a part of se of thse med

and tamara keith from npr. she co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." and welcome to you both.have some new poll numbe. shall we dig in? >> let's. >> nawaz: let's go to iowa first. this is from a new pole in iowa for the cnn and the des moines register. look at who's at the top of the poll now, pete buttigieg leads with 25% of supthport in state. after him, senators warren, vice president biden and president sanders, and then the everyone else polling below 10%, that is in iowa. amy, start us off here. what is happening here? the 16 point surge -- >> it's pretty remarkable that of all the candidates this is the one candidate who has gne back inarch, i think he waslead pulling somewhere around 1% or 2%. what's remarkable about iowa, we've had four polls since march from the des moines register, which is the gold standard of polling in the state, and while it's very volatile, right, wve had three different leads in these polls, so four polls, the different leaders, they have been the same people. of the pool ofoor people, we have a huge field, but the same four pd ople are mentio

movement to rethink our attitudes and approach about all of special correspondent allison aubrey of nprshowed us the depth of the problem in previous reports, and she's back for a t special seris week. allison, welcome.s the numbe staggering. 30 to 40% of all the food we produce never even makes it to our tables? >> yes, it's unbelievable to think about. and when researchers first documented the scope of problem four years back, that's all people could say: wow. huge. now, there's a lot happening to solve the problem. efforts all over the country. they are taking away streams of food that can't be eaten and turning it into electricity, into renewable energy. now we start the seriein california because the state is th durkin around the state and here's what we found. when we first >> reporter: when we first came to the salinas valley four yea ago, we saw walls of leafy greens being tossed away. and it's still happening. on peak days up to 200 tons of produce is headed to this dump; it's all surplus; from nearby farms and packaging facilities. it ends up here for a bunch of reasons: it's

will supply of story npr's on the media funded partially with taxpayer dollars hasn't mentioned the story and neither have many others in the days following the scandal there seem to be almost. no mention of the story on m s n b c c.b.s. america's a.b.c. or n.b.c. news it's like in never happened all the facts were simply reported from a.b.c.'s version of events like the new york times did but meeting standards seems to be a bit of a patton take road and pharo one of the journalists who broke the harvey weinstein story and works at n.b.c. but the network was very reluctant to air it and why after 7 months without one victim a witness on the record he simply didn't have a story that met our standard for broadcast nor that of any major news organization thank god for media standards making sure only the most newsworthy stories make it on air this wasn't really a political story necessarily it was simply a story about corruption and power and some very disgusting crimes that were being committed the problem is that it looks like there's no other competing network that we just we see them all

now big us public service broadcasters like npr and wnyc are joining podcast networks such as gimletnd panoply in the battle to provide audio especially aimed at children. spotify is also getting in on the act. it's just started testing spotify kids in ireland. the aim is to expand beyond music into audiobooks and eventually podcasts. all of this is being underpinned by the strong growth in on demand audio as a whole. in the us, nearly a quarter of all people listened to a podcast in the last month. one study estimates that $479 million was spent on advertising on podcasts in the us this year. that's up by more than half. we're joined by guy bisson, research director at ampere analysis. we have seen the numbers, how big could this be? kids entertainment as a whole is massive. of course the children are not spending their own money, but they are the ultimate in—home influencer. if you have a child in the house, they're influencing every purchase decision what. the market is going after is the online and the streaming advertising market and the streaming market for viewing content and

and died in the korean war in 1950 and i just, i heard him talking about the book on npr, sounds like a great read and it was. just and listen to other people as well. if they're reading something interesting they'll usually talk about it. no systemic way, but i usually end up with a pretty good book. >> where do you enjoy reading? >> everywhere. probably get more reading done on airplanes than anyplace else. you can either read policy papers or have a really good book. you've got a couple of hours there or more, usually more. and so, do a lot of that, but then i try to read something every day, read at least a little bit if i've got a book that i've reading, knock off 10 or 20 pages at night when i get home, but i don't travel ever without a book. >> find out what other members of congress are reading by visiting book tv.org. and searching "what are you reading." >> elaine white is the author of this book, it's called "the women's hour." ms. white, nashville, august, 1920. what was it like? >> oh, it was bedlam. this is a sleepy southern city in the middle of sister. the legislature

i was reporting on the field with two other reporters who worked for the cnn investigative unit and npr radio and they have done an article in bbc so we had an article of reporters, the four of us working with a very small budget but we were able to figure out new information from sources and tips and leads we were able to develop and we were able to find above and beyond so many allegations of the behavior. >> can you talk about the sort of spectrum for this behavior because we have especially this way of talking about sexual misconduct. thso talk about the spectrum of what you found. >> somebody asked about the range from catcalling to rape in that behavior may have existed that we didn't fall anything that goes into that category in the book. the allegations are serious and range from the sort of most innocent and there's nothing innocent about it a is many womn that said when they were young models they walk into the dressing rooms while they are changing and beauty pageants and all that, then it goes on from there to a wanted touching and kissing and grabbing in the genitals i don'

the political discourse off -- off of social and i have suggested we need to forte an equivalent of nprt political conversation. we are talking to the cofounder of sun microsystems. let's put aside that and talk about innovation will stop one of the things that has been expressed is if you get too big [indiscernible] if you go back to standard oil, that was the concern. are you seeing a curtailing of innovation and success? >> that is a great question and hernych question because really, what does facebook keep me from doing in my life? there are lots of ways to take a picture of my dinner and ensure that so i don't feel like i'm having loss of choice. i have lots of ways to communicating with people and the people that might be upset our advertisers because digital itertising, three fourths of is google and facebook and they are gaining share so they might have a beef, but the consumer, you don't have to use facebook, you don't have to use twitter or google products. innovation is stopped in biotech or autonomous vehicles or anything because of those vehicles -- because of those. >> th

telling npr they're going to examine whether he was illegally soliciting something of value which already witnesses have toifd under oath. and tomorrow the hearings begin with the diplomats, ambassador bill taylor and the senior official for european diplomacy. he's are not just a seasoned diplomat or a bronze star vietnam veteran. he's known in many ways for what he did ever in the trump administration. he famously objected in writing and then later told congress the trump administration was freezing the money statutorily aug authorized for ukrain and the reason he said was pressing for the investigation in92 bidens that trump wanted. if they don't do this, they're not going to get that. when he was asked are you aware quid quo pro literally means this for that? quote, i am. kent has already revealed how he wanted the biden probe to launch. he wanted nothing less than ukrainian leader zelensky to say biden and memo. he's always been concerned about corruption. house democrats say they have first hand knowledge that two of them staw the full scope and timeline of the president's misconduc

the music show is heard on stations around the country on npr.xt, we speak with mountain stage host larry gross for more on music's role in west virginia's culture. springere's a in the mountain it flows down to the town ♪ >> from npr music with support provided by bailey and glasser and by the west virginia tours office, welcome to another mountain stage with our host, larry gross. ♪ >> mountain stage is a two hour radio show, composed of live performances, musical performances, from all kinds of music all across the usa and all around the world. the music varies from african bands to old-time appalachian fiddlers, and everything in between. ♪ [applause] december, we started mountain stage regular broadcasting. it was once a month. by 1986, i think it was 26 shows later, we were national. now we are on 240 stations in america. from the beginning, our idea was to show as many different styles of music as we could, reasonably, and that is what we still do. ♪ there have been so many folks, many of them of course before anybody else ever heard of th

chairman shows are judges are generous with the grant with the lpr's and npr's and that is something we can talk about in further hearings but i want to point out that this is a perfect example of what cancellation was intended to relieve. also, i want to point out that the cancellation process takes into consideration the kind of deep dive into the facts that the elements now being used by ice should have been using all along. i note that veterans overall criminal history is rehabilitation, family, financial ties to the u.s., and women history, health, community service in addition to the duty status whether active or reser reserve, years of service and decorations awarded. these are proper considerations to remove one veteran who should not be removed is one too many to consider each case on a case-by-case basis looking at all the facts applicable is the right approach and will always be the right approach. i thank you for your time today and i'm happy to answer questions you and the members and the panel may have. >> thank you. i would like to proceed under the five minute rule fo

the music show was heard on stations around the country on npr.eak with that mountain stage host for more on music's role in west virginia's culture. welcome to another mountain stage. mountain stage is a two hour radio show composed of live performances from all kinds of music it varies from african bands to fiddlers. and everything in between. we started the mountain stage regular broadcasting. by 1986 i think it was 26 shows later we were national. now we're on 240 stations in america. our idea was to show as many different styles of music as we could reasonably and that is what we still do. there had been so many folks. many of them before anybody else ever heard of them people like mary carpenter in the early '80s. and alison krauss we have sheryl crow once. no one knew who she was. they were already very established. when they were on the show. and judy collins in the band and randy newman. working to finish this our up in morgantown west virginia. hello june. [music] we had have probably between 250 and 300 different west virginia musicians

according to an npr-marist poll, 50% of independents do not support impeachment and moving trump frome. house freedom caucus chair congressman andy biggs, house judiciary committee or congressman tom mcclintock, and senior advisor to the trump 2020 campaign jenna ellis. i think andy, all three of you, but in the end, i served with in congress previously but i think all three of you for joining us. i want to start with you. congressman mcclintock, you were on the house judiciary committee and if the democrats, and i think this is questionable whether or not they move forward, but if they were to move forward, the rules are different. and you get to call people. the democrats will get to call people. who would you like to hear come testify before the house judiciary committee? >> i'm hoping we could get viktor shokin. he's the ukrainian prosecutor general that biden had fired just as we were looking at the corrupt relationship between biden's son and burisma. that it be a very interesting conversation to have. obviously the so-called whistle-blower who concealed his relationship with ad

i suggested to multiple people we need to create the equivalent of npr, public broadcasting politicalconversation. something that is a dot-org. >> we are talking to the cofounder of sun microsystems. let's put aside that and talk about innovation. one of the things that has been expressed is if you get too big actually it really curtails innovators from competing with you. that was expressed in the old trust, if you go back to standard oil, that was the concern. there's no opportunity. are you seeing any of that? are you seeing curtailing of innovation and success? > that is a great question and a pertinent question because what does facebook keep me from doing in my life? there's lots of ways to take a picture of my dinner and share that. i'm not feeling like i have loss of choice in where to post my dessert. i have lots of ways to have communicating to people. the people that might be upset that they have very little choice are advertisers. because digital advertising is -- three-fourths of it is google and facebook and they're gaining share. they might have a beef but the consumer,

more from npr and the headline is fact check.s the trumpet meet been -- trump impeachment process different from nixon and clinton? he served in the house during the clinton proceedings and voted for impeachment. he called the current plan "very consistent with how house republicans operate. it republican lawmakers had been allowed equal time for questioning. they will be allowed to request subpoenas and witnesses for the open hearings. those would have to be approved by democrats. a mix of closed and open phases closed-door interviews in grand jury proceedings that were not open to congress until later. the nixon investigation was different, it started as a criminal investigation into the watergate break-in. on the npr website, a comparison to what we are seeing today, what we saw in 1973, 1974 with the impeachment inquiry and impeachment and senate trial of president bill clinton. joe from virginia, republican line, good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for listening. i would like to first say i do support president tru

ron is the washington desk senior editor for npr, he has read an add vanced copy of the book, and also turn to you. what is she up to? why is she writing this book right now? >> she's known for a long time to be a savvy political operator. this is just another example of that, nikki haley has done what seems to be impossible. she has managed to kind of exert some degree of independence while she was a cabinet secretary in trump's administration. >> even being willing to be somewhat critical of him at times. but she left in relatively good graces, she's written this book that has put her firmly into a protrump camp by exposing some of the president's top aides who were working behind the vines to undermine him. and she got a presidential tweet on it. the president who endorsed his book said everyone should go out and buy it, and go on tour. this is what nikki haley needs to survive. she knows she has a long political future ahead, she cannot do that without being on trump's side. she's solidified her place by doing this. it's extraordinary. >> to piggyback on your point. you wrote about

i want to mention couple of small things that i noticed like national public radio, npr. i listen to them a lot and i didn't bring a list but i always write down the days and times when they call us slaves and continuing. and we were never called slaves to ourself, our mothers and grandmothers and grandfathers never called us slaves. they always told us you're not a slave, so this persistence is atrocious. and, you know, take the slave out of these history books, calling people slave and these history books, and i heard recently as everybody know about this thing with the lady, the teacher, and they had a skit or play or whatever. but that's where it's coming from because you continue to let these people call you slaves. and this is to the schomburg. also, there's a thing about -- a new thing that i've heard on the radio, npr, that white people were africans before black people. they say white people were in africa before black people. anybody ever heard that? >> yes. >> thank you. i'm not the only one. okay. it ain't true. like he said -- >> do you have a question, sir?

i have suggested that we need to forte the equivalent of npr that political conversation.ng that is a .org, independent and open. david: let's put aside regulation and the content of speech and talk about innovation. one of the concerns that's been expressed, if you get too big, it curtails innovators from competing with you. that was expressed in the old trusts. if you go back to standard oil, that was the concern, no opportunity. are you seeing a curtailing of innovation and success? scott: that is a great question, a pertinent question. facebook keepes me from doing in my life? there are lots of ways to take a picture of my dinner and share that. am not feeling like i have loss of choice on where to post a picture of my desert. i have lots of ways of communicating with people. the people that might be upset that they have little choice our advertisers because digital advertising is, 347 is google and facebook, and they are gaining share. they might have a beef, but the consumer, you don't have to use facebook, twitter, you don't have to use google products. i don't use

and npr describe wednesday as oldings fashion civic lesson with few viral moments npc news first twoitnesses lack pizzazz to capture the attention and hit me with it and pals agree with me that it was a bust so will he talk a liberal pal for call aing not sexy. qeel see. one moment that was pretty interesting was this. where is impeachable offense in that call and to assert there was impeachable offense in that call? shout it out anyone -- dead silence. none of the democrat witnesses were even on the trump and rest is hearsay trump never says investigate the bidens or you're not going to get the the money and media doesn't want to talk about transcript because there's no blackmail in it now i'll read from the transcript right now. trump says do us a favor. and find out what happened in the 2016 election over there. now if there was collusion with the democrats he wanted to know. quote i would like to have the attorney general call you. perfectly legal. perfectly understandable, ukraine president said okay, of course. then trump says i heard you have a prosecutor who was very good and

politico called it an impeachment flop npr says unfashion civic lesson with few viral 340e789s nbc newsirst two witnesses lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention. so i predicted it. and hit me for it but then pals agree with me that it was a bust so will he attack his liberal pal for calling impeachment dull? in other l words not sexy? we'll see. one mommy that was pretty interesting was this -- where is the impeachable offense in that call are either of you here today to assert there was an impeachable offense in that call? shout is out, anyone. none of the democrat never on the call and never met donald trump. read the transcript. the rest is hearsay. trump never says investigate the bide or aren't getting money media doesn't want to talk about tripght because there's no blackmail in it. now, i'll read from the transcripting right now. trump says do us a favor and find out what happened in the 2016 election over there. now if there was collusion with democrat he wanted to know, quote, i would like to have attorney general call you perfectly legal. perfectly understand

in washington tamyra keith, white house correspondent for npr and peter baker, our correspondent for the new york times and coauthor of "impeachment" book. >> phil, i would like to begin with you. what does mark sandy bring to the conversation, remind the omb role in this story? >> mark sandy is as career official at the office of management and budget. he's not as political appointee of president trump. he decided to defy the order, trying to present all of these lawyers testifying. it was the omb that was involved and stopping the $400 million aid from flowing into ukraine. the aid went to ukraine but there was a delay, it was ordered according to reporting by the president, sets forth by mulvaney and the omb director and mr. sandy should shed much more light and details in the process inside. and what the system was for documenting that. >> we should repeat these witnesses that have come forward are about to appear in these hearings. they are not limited in their testimony to what's on the deposition indeed, mr. taylor, gave us new details we did not know. what is yovanovitch like

showing more support for trump and democrats are less supposed to the president and there is the new nprmarist poll which shows when it comes to impeachment the overwhelming majority of americans across both parties say nothing they here in the impeachment hearings will change their mind. 65% said they can't imagine hearing anything that changes their mind, only 30% say it is possible testimony could sway them. the hearings appear to be heartening american views with 86% of democrats saying they are more likely to support impeachment, 83% of republicans are less likely to support impeachment. overall when asked if the president should be impeached americans are split down the middle. shannon: thank you. between impeachment and the democratic debate you might have missed one on another they would be big news. we are tracking at all and have the latest. >> a few things happened, the president headed to austin, texas for the opening of the new apple computer plant. he got a tour from tim cook who you might remember the president once referred to as tim apple. >> what would you say about our

thesservicesmers pay for seven dollars to $15 per month.m tv critic eric deggans follows heall this from nprus in florida. what is going on? why all the streaming services now? >> people are drowning in television. there are a few differ things going on. there it -- there are a lot of media companies that doi't want toout on the streaming revolution. they realize this is a major way that people are choosin to experience television and they want to carve out a piece of that andnt they o control it. so in the past, they may have sold reruns shows, valued shows to netflix, "the office" and "friends" and shows like that, but they realized that was making netflix three powerful and allowing netflix to control nda huge corner of the tvtry and dictate terms in a way, how much shows are wth. some of these companies decided to pull back and build streaming services around those episodes so they can control their own platforms, they can control their owniece of this medium. hethe reason is, it is a part of some of these media companies' strategy to lure customers into a universe of media products that

pulitzer prize winner journalist and in washington tamara keith, white house correspondent for npr and peter baker, correspondent for "the new york times" and co-author of "impeachment." what does mark sandy bring to the conversation? remind us of the omb. >> he is a career official. he's not a political appointee of president trump's and, therefore, he's decided to defy the order or the wishes, rather, from the white house counsel and the president himself trying to prevent all of these executive branch employees from testifying. he could provide important information to congress because it was the omb that was involved in stopping that aid that $400 million in aid from flowing into ukraine. the aid eventually went to ukraine but there was a delay. it was ordered according to reporting by the president set forth by mick mulvaney, the acting white house chief of staff and the omb director and mr. sandy, the omb employee could shed light on what concerns were raised by himself and other career employees. and what the system was for documenting that. >> tamara, we should repeat these wit

kimberly atkins back with us, senior washington correspondent for wbur, boston's npr news station. and jeremy bash is back with us as well, former chief of staff at cia and the pentagon, notably former chief counsel to the house intel committee. mike, since you were quoted, i'd like to begin with you. what does your reporting say about the impeachment process? what might your reporting say about the motives of donald trump? >> well, what our reporting did is it provided a very key but sort of basic point about the entire saga. the simple fact of when the president knew about the whistle-blower's complaint to sort of help fill out the larger picture of the information the president had when he made one of these crucial decisions. and the point that we had uncovered was important to us because we didn't think that the folks on capitol hill that had been doing the impeachment proceedings had actually gotten to that in the course of all of their investigation. they spoke to all these witnesses. they've only gotten so many documents. the white house has blocked them from talking to thos

npr pbs poll, 33%.emocrats might just be losing a critical part of their base because the president's agenda is bringing real results helping our fellow americans, real families, people that have been left behind under the disastrous policies of biden and obama. one such crack congressman maxine waters.impeach 45. she recently said that she gouged that the secretary dr. carson has the intelligence to do the job. wow. one of the greatest brain surgeons in the country. one of the brightest guys i've over met and happens to also be a friend.renowned surgeon dr. b. i won't even go intoyo the story about how you do what you do. you are one of the best at what you do. but i will give you a chance to react to that madness. >> it is very interesting. first of all, you know, the statistics that you were just mentioning with the lowest unemployment rate with poverty improvements, these are wonderful things. but you have to recognize that this president believes that a rising tide lifts all boats, so he does not e