ladies and gentlemen, john white. >>> thank you, john, for that kind introduction. i'm missing ballet to be here today, not mine, but my 3-year-olds. a black teenager is living in the nation's capital, and she is working as a servant for a local shoemaker. one night she went to the store and laid down on the couch and she heard someone come in next to her. he said who is there? and she said liz, it is me frank, i want to get into bed with you but don't tell lib. lizzy said she was tired and to go away, but he persevered, he came in and slept with her. when lizzy realized she was pregnant, frank confirmed it was his, and it was. in may of 1864, frank told lizzy he wanted her to take the child and get out of his home. she said she would learn if he would give her financial support. she decided to confront him in front of his wife. the next morning she packed up her belongings. frank stayed in bed while his wife who just had a bear of her own went to answer the door. she said look at me, look at the baby, and remember what you have done to me. he hitting in bed simply

john white, our doctor on duty for the hour. webmd's chief doctor. dr. white, stand by for me if you can. we're at station 7. i want to show you simple signs, simple poster. we're not sure if that's a business, not sure what that is. you see it there in the window, a simple sign expressing the sentiment of so many of us on this thursday morning. to all those on the front line, thank you. speaking of folks doing their part on the front line, bethenny frankel, the entrepreneur, the philanthropist. she's raised some $15 million for ppe. she also reached out yesterday on social media to ups and got a response on something that we're going to talk about on the other side of the break. we'll continue our coverage here on msnbc right after this. you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. but you're not, because you have e*trade whose tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. don't get mad, get e*trade. new tide power pods one up the can it one up spaghetti night? it sure can. re

john white. she the chief medical officer for webmd. we'll get to dr. white in just a moment. we want to start with kathy park. kathy, roughly 40 minutes or so from where i'm standing right now in the bronx, in nassau county. she's on long island, suffolk county. you spent time talking to a county executive i talked to last week. they have been hit especially hard. when i talked to mr. ballone last week, he said one of the hurdles was a lack of early testing on long island. what did he tell you? >> reporter: craig, good morning to you. the coronavirus outbreak still has a very firm grip on suffolk county with more than 23,000 confirmed cases. that's higher than some states. we had a chance to spend the day with the county executive, steve ballone leading the emergency response on the ground. he says they're still fighting to save lives. 60 miles outside the epicenter of the nation's covid-19 outbreak, cases exploded in suffolk, one of the most populated counties in new york. >> i look back and i say less than a month ago, life was normal here. we didn't have a single death in

>> our next speaker is john white. he is -- john white. he is an associate professor in newport news. when i look at his academic resume, i think of what an old graduate school advisor talked about, would say to us when he would come into our offices to find someone to volunteer for a project. busy people will get things done. we knew we were in for it. he has to be the busiest young scholar in the field today. he's not only a prolific historian, but more projects on more back burners on the stove than i have ever seen for. a dedicated -- a dedicated educator he won the 2019 outstanding educator award. i do not know where he finds the time. he has been very generous with what remaining time he has. we are all very grateful. as you can see from your printed programs, the topics of his published works are many and varied with something of a focus on abraham lincoln and constitutional history as well. and because he lives in newport news, virginia and had a few extra minutes on his hands, he and anna holloway wrote "our little monitor: the gr

[applause] >> our next speaker is john white. he is -- john white. he is an associate professor in newport news. when i look at his academic resume, i think of what an old graduate school advisor talked about, would say to us when he would come into our offices to find someone to volunteer for a project.

. >> our next speaker is john white. john white is an associate professor of american studies at christopher new port university in new port news. when i look at john's vida, his academic resume i think of an old graduate school adviser and i'm talking about you, jim wittenberg, would say to us when he would come to our offices to find someone to volunteer for a project. busy people get things done, and we knew we were in for it when dr. wittenberg talked about that. jonathan white has to be the busiest young scholar in the field today. he's not only a prolific hiftor yap, but more projects on more backburners than i've ever seen on the stove award. he won the outstanding faculty award for academic education. he's a parent of young children, i don't know where john finds the time. he's been very generous with what remaining time he has from all of that for this museum and our education programs for which we're all very grateful. as you can see from your printed programs, the topics of john's work are -- his published wor

white men. one, her confederate father. the other, a kindly union officer. if you know the premise of john ford's young mr. lincoln, you might recallll that henry fonda's lincoln hass. virtually no contact with black characters. his real work involves helping to white brothers who had been falselyf th accused of murder ad in the most dramatic moment of the film, the two brothers faced the wrath of an angry mob, then lincoln turns backs wh of the mob and after t, melds a successful defense of the two brothers so that he again liberates white men from confinement. yet, in a very halting and hesitant sort of way, some new dealers acknowledged the possibility that race played a part in keeping people down in both the and 1 1930's and 1860'. lincoln's attention to racialer emancipation did merit atiosome attention and consideration. when the african-american singer marian anderson was banned from performing in the daughters of the american and '' revolution concert hall here in washington, many figures and fdr's administration, including eleanor roosevelt, helped to arrange anderson's new open air concert in fro

. >> our white house correspondent john harwood is with us. peter navarro, the top trade guy at the white house, very close to the president, sent this mim y mim memo in january. the question is, did the president read it, who saw it, who didn't? >> reporter: well, whether the president read it or not, poppy, he's running a government with a lot of people working for him and his government knew about this. look, step back, president george w. bush threw his homeland security adviser fran townsend did extensive work to prepare for pandemics. preoccupation of president bush. president obama dealt with ebola, left behind a pandemic preparedness position. the obama team briefed the trump team when they were taking office about the risks of a pandemic. you had the trump hhs did a huge pandemic preparedness exercise that showed that they weren't prepared. all of that preceded what happened with covid-19 and peter navarro. now we know someone as close to the president as peter navarro, he's very close to him, was warning in january that the u.s. popul

. >> out front now with white house correspondent john harwood and top cnn fact checker, daniel dale. so, john, we know, right now, there is a divide in the white house between the president's economic advisors and his health experts on when to reopen the economy and how, right? i mean, reopening the economy is not just a sort of fling the door open and we're back to normal. it's not going to be that, no matter how much president wants it to be. do we know where his inclinations lie, at this point, though, in terms of what and when? >> well, we know, erin, that the cross pressures on him are more intense than just a couple weeks ago when he faced a similar decision, and decided to keep restrictions on through the end of april, rather than opening the country up by easter. i think some of what's going on is he is going to preserve maneuvering room. see if the numbers change, if the models change their projections. i think some of what he is doing is showing business interests and other members of the republican base that he is listening to them. he feels their impatience and shares it.

brian: you point out in your book that there were 2.5 million votes in the 1844 election, all white men. john: all white men. brian: no women? john: no women. brian: no blacks. john: no blacks. brian: and you point out that the difference in the vote was between henry clay and james buchanan, 1.4%. john: 1.4%. 38,000 votes. brian: you point out in your book that there were 2.5 million votes in the 1844 election, all white men. john: the electoral 36 votes in new york really gave it to polk. had new york gone for clay, clay would have been the president. interestingly, when you say there are echoes from this time to our time. james k. polk failed to carry his home state of tennessee, which reminds us that in 2000, if al gore had carried his own state of tennessee, he would have been the president. everything that goes around comes around, i guess, brian. brian: quick question on the diaries. where do they keep them now, the actual diaries? john: the actual diaries are in the library of congress. the copies that cutler has and all of those documents that are in cutler's domain are copies, both

temple's request for freedom for two imprisoned white men, one her con federal father and the other a kindly union officer. if you know the premise of john ford's "young mr. lincoln" you might recall that henry fonda's lincoln again has virtually no contact with black characters. his real work involves helping two white brothers who have been falsely accused of murder. in fact, in the most dramatic moment of the film the two brothers face the wrath of an angry lynch mob and then lincoln turns back the mob and after that mounts a successful defense of the two brothers so that he again lib rates white men from confinement. and, yet, in a very halting and hesitant sort of way, some new dealers began to acknowledge the possibility that race, too, played a part in keeping people down. in both the 1930s and the 1860s. lincoln's attention to racial emancipation they said did merit some attention and consideration. when the african-american singer marian anderson was banned from performing in the daughters of the american revolution concert hall here in washington, many figures in f.d.r.'s administration including of course famously el more roos

for example, calling abc chief white house correspondent john karl a third rate reporter. jonathan karl joins me now. he's the current president of the white house correspondents association. you don't get more first rate than that. he's out with a new book called "front row at the trump show" which is on the "new york times" best seller list. you used to be a cnn capitol hill correspondent. welcome back. >> spent eight great years at cnn, including some time at the white house. >> now you're there at abc, at the briefings. what do you think about the president's comment now he's saying they're not worth the time or effort. is he really going to cut back on these almost daily briefings? >> i'll believe it when i see it he's cut back because he hasn't done one here this weekend yet, but i think he has found this to be an outlet. he can't go out, he can't travel, he may begin to travel a little bit, but he's not going back to his rallies. he has that briefing room. it's really just 25 paces from the oval office. he can be before all of the cameras, he can fight with reporters

. >> our next speaker is john white. he is an associate professor of american studies at christopher newport university. when i look at john's academic -- i'mi think of what talking about jen wittenberg. he would find someone to volunteer for a project. busy people get things done and it.new we were in forc mostwhite has to be the prolific young professor. won the outstanding faculty award for virginia. he is an active public speaker and a parent of young children. i don't know where john finds the time. generousn very with our education programs to which we are grateful. as you can see from your printed programs, the topics of his varied with a and focus on abraham lincoln and legal and constitutional history. he is the co-author of a book thetled "civil education in future of american citizenship." because he had a few extra minutes, he and ann holloway wrote our monitor. i asked him to speak on a topic i did not put on the printer program. a topic that draws from two other book manuscripts he is currently finishing ab

john white. dr. white is the chief medical officer for webmd. dr. white, let's start there. what are your concerns about some of these states, some of these cities reopening businesses now? >> good to be with you, craig. the biggest concern i have is that we don't really know where we are in some of these local areas in terms of, we don't have enough testing. i want to know how many people actually are infected in the community. i want to know how many people might have been infected and have antibodies now and maybe they have some protection. we're really working in an environment where we don't have enough data to guide decisions. so that's my concern in terms of are we opening up too early? we need to know a little more in terms of what are the conditions in the community, and we don't have them. >> my friend and colleague garrett haake is standing by in texas. he's got a question for you as well, dr. white. >> sure. >> reporter: dr. white, in my part of the country there's a complete patchwork of rules about mask usage. in dallas they're mandatory. in houston they will b

it is of note how the president chose to focus the white house task force news conference largely on himself. joe johns live at the white house with the very latest. joe. >> good morning, john. starting to see signs the president is getting pushback from the states. governors on both coasts indicating they are joining forces to try to come up with a coordinated plan to end the lockdown. apparently in response to the president's repeated suggestions that he might move forward with or without the buy-in of the scientists advising him. the president says he has the authority to do it. it sets up a possible showdown between the states and the white house. president trump used monday's white house coronavirus task force briefing as a stage to air his grievances. >> everything we did was right. january 17th, no cases. no cases. no deaths. i'm supposed to close up the united states of america when i have no cases. the president of the united states calls the shots. >> reporter: trump lashing out as examples of his downplaying of warning of top health officials about the dangers of a possible pandemic. >> what

, i want to get a sense of what's happening at the white house and whether we will see that president and the governor together soon. i don't know. john roberts might. >> it will take me a lot less time to tell you what's not going on at the white house as opposed to what is going on at the white house. it is so busy these days. governor cuomo should be meeting with the president about now. the testing was going to be a big part of the conversation. it has been a big point of contention between the president and the governor. the governor saying the federal government has to step in. president trump says is not the government's role to do testing. president trump telling cuomo to stop talking and do his job. saying to the president can i get off the couch to stop watching on television i go to work. until the other day when cuomo acknowledged that, yes, testing is the responsibility of the states, and at the president is right when he says that yesterday. the vice president mike pence was on the phone with the nation's governors pointing out to them the excess capacity that the nation has for testing, identifying all of the state that

joining me now is cnn's white house correspondent john harwood and ron brownstein, senior editor at "the atlantic ." thank you for joining us, especially than holiday weekend, appreciate it. john, you first. president trump is looking ahead to his decision on when to reopen the economy and how soon to do it. you know, he's called it the biggest decision of his presidency. he doesn't actually have control of how this is going to go down. >> that's right. and, you know, he has said he's got economic advisers to listen to and health advisers and he'll listen to his own gut. but i'm not sure how much choice he actually has, for a couple of overlapping reasons. first of all, it is one thing to blow off the warnings of public health officials when the danger is spreading beneath the surface, but is not visible to the american people. it is an entirely different thing after 20,000 people have died, this has been the dominant news story for six weeks and people are frightened. and with all the public health officials saying it is not time to relax those guidelines, from anthony fauci on down.

john adams only lived in the white house for less than four months. when thomas jefferson moved in, the landscape remained a wreck. visitors described it as "a barren, stony unfenced waste that existed in a rough, wild state." when jerome and found the site downright dangerous after dark. in his words, "one was liable to fall into a pit or stumble over a pile of rubbish." none of this deter jefferson. he got to work improving the landscape, removing the temporary buildings, filling in the holes. in jefferson's vision for the grounds culminated in this landscape plan, which is believed to have been executed in his own hand. while it does not look like the current arrangement of the white house grounds, it is absolutely vital, because it formed a basis for all future development. a perfectly illustrates how, at the beginning, the white house grounds were more short. they are shorter north and south and wider in east and west. jefferson's plan revolved around three key themes. the first two are closely related. he divided the landscape into north and sou

. >> john harwood is with us covering the white house. john, the interesting thing is you can go state-by-state, county by county. there will be, in the days ahead, a modest reopening, but when you look more largely at the scope, this great american reopening the president wanted to do like that is going to take months. >> reporter: absolutely. and when you look at the full range of gating criteria that you were outlining before, testing, hospital capacity as well as a 14-day decline, it's not clear that any state meets that criteria right now, and so for all the attention to may 1st and the president's desire to go to may 1st, the actual details of what he has put out -- and it's not long on detail but directionally, suggest that it is going to be very much a phased and data-driven reopening, and that's what public health authorities, that's what governors have said that they wanted. >> i want to put some of this up, john, so people can see it. let's talk through it a little bit. phase 1 is what you want to focus on most right now because

john kennedy. first, chief white house correspondent john roberts who leads our coverage there on the north lawn. john. >> you're looking ahead to that meeting that supposed to happen at 4:00 this afternoon. president trump and new york governor andrew cuomo have been going around and around on testing for the last few weeks. cuomo insisting that the federal government has to step up when it comes to testing. president trump saying, hey, the federal government is not in the business of standing on street corners testing people. but over the last 48 hours, signs of greater cooperation after cuomo acknowledged that the president is correct that testing is the purview of the states, the president now stepping up to increase the supply of testing swabs and a specimen test tubes so that those can be sent out to the states. before heading for washington this afternoon, cuomo indicated that testing will be a big part of this conversation after his meeting with the president because there does need to be a federal state partnership. listen here to cuomo. >> get the instinct to distance yourself from it,

and of course what would the white house be without flowers? presidents john quincy adams and andrew jackson kept a flower guards on the west side of the south grounds. just like the old kitchen garden its history has proven to be frustratingly elusive to track down. it's not kplaekt muexactly much is it? the only part that's really visible is this wooden structure. it's either a trellis or an arbor. the foreground is obviously dominated by this crane. it was the expansion of the treasury that necessitated the removal of the white house flower garden in the 1850s. there were of course still flowers but no real flower gardens in the way we think of them today. and why would that be? frankly because the presidents and families didn't have an outdoor space to plant such a garden. the south grounds were also used as public parkland which was not part of the original planl. the flower garden simply moved indoors at the white house and became a private space for the first family to enjoy out of public view. this is a very early photograph of the white house conserva

first to john at the white house. hey, john. >> you will notice the president is having a lot more advanced that was open to the public in recent weeks. the strategy -- now the white house is putting the president together with people whose needs really need addressing during this coronavirus crisis. the president takes questions that there at those events. in addition to the people that you mention who will be at this, governor bill lee of tennessee who has recently taken some steps to reopen will be there as well. what the house will do and what the president will do in his event in the interim is go over the things that they administration is doing to help people who are in this extraordinarily high risk category. mortality among this group up to age 70 and above is for anywhere from 9 to 14% depending on how old you are within that age group. the president will say that what the white house has done is raise infectious disease standards at nursing homes across america, require nursing homes to alert residents and f

. >> john howard covering the white house for us today. john, i'll defend the white house reporter. he's a very good reporter, and the president goes on attack when someone tries to hold him accountable. are they trying to hold this one back at all today? >> reporter: not really. you know, you could be generous to the president, john, and say was irresponsible when he was up there touting hydroxychloroquine before there was evidence it was going to be effective, and now we see evidence suggesting maybe it was dangerous. this idea was so obviously nutty that the lysol, the maker of one of the disinfectant products we were talking about, said the idea of ingesting disinfectant was something consumers absolutely should not do. the fact that the president should offer this idea, this nutty idea, seemingly unaware of how nutty it was puts into question an issue that we've danced around in the media for the last few years, which is, is the president all there? is he connected with reality? one of his former national security aids, brett mcgirk, tweeted this morning, you cannot get past th

chief white house correspondent john roberts has more. actually, john, hold on.e have new york governor andrew cuomo, i think that he has just started his press conference, lakes take a listen. >> okay, thank you governors. i just said i think you all very much for your professionalism and your cooperation, everything you've done. that has benefited the alliance with the state of new york, i also want to thank you and congratulate you on what you have done for your state. it has truly been outstanding. my honor to be a colleague to you. we have been talking today about the fact that new york believes we have reached a plateau in the number of cases. they are not going down. but they're not going up at the same rate. we believe it's a quote unquote plateau. that's relatively good news in a world of bad options. and we should start looking forward to reopening quote unquote, but reopening with a plan, and a smart plan, because if you do it wrong, it can backfire. we have seen that in other places around the globe. everyone is very anxious to get out of the house, g

john roberts at the white house. the president is ironing all of this out and finding some compatibility with the nation's governors. >> let's hope he is finding compatibility. he's been on the phone for the past hour. the last time we checked, the president was still on the phone with them going over his new opening up america again and guidelines that will be released at 6:00 tonight. this is real specific medically-based data that is providing to the governors, so that they can formulate a plan to open up the country. here's what we know about the country. it will be gone or, data-driven. it will be data-driven and layered my specifically tailored state-by-state. we can get rid of that. i'm not talking about that. it will be data-driven and layered, not a cookie-cutter one-size-fits-all policy. some governors will continue their shelter in place policies. others will open sooner. there we go. we are told that the president's chief medical advisors, dr. tony sba and dr. deborah birx have all signed off on these gui

what's going on behind the scenes here and what's the white house response? >> sure. so, john, it's interesting. the white house actually said extremely little when i spoke to the -- the white house was saying that they didn't know a lot of what was going on here and we're looking at hhs. at hhs officials have been saying on background, things that contradict dr. bright's claim, not specifically why he was transferred. they don't disagree he was transferred. their argument is he was transferred because he was difficult to work with or had confrontational management style. this had been in the works for months and abruptly came to a head now. that could be true. if there is an i.g. investigation, i think that will all be looked at. i think, john, the timing is going to raise a lot of questions. getting rid of somebody like dr. bright in the middle of a pandemic, while you're still trying to find a therapeutic -- that's effective and a vaccine beyond that. we'll know more in the coming days and it could be more complicated than the situation dr. bright is complaining about or de

the summer when we heard john dean, the white house counsel for john dean, he had been a part of these conversations with the president in the oval office. of course, having his testimony discredited. one day we learned that my god, our audiotape recordings of the conversations in dispute exist. who would have imagined that the president would install a voice activated, automatically turned on in other words recording system, richard nixon had done, that we found about it one day. at that point the question became, well, we can settle this. who is telling the truth. we can go to the tape. it was a matter of time i think assuming nixon didn't burn the tapes, some thought he should do that. others that he should have done that looking back on that. what an extraordinary thing that this would become evidence, known to the public, now available for our years. let's say goodbye to nixon for the duration of this time. let's turn to his successor, appointed vice president. we've, the coming of the amendment alone for the appointment of a new president when the vice presidency became vacant. i

incident but, to ensure something like this doesn't happen again. >> ed: it john roberts is live with another busy day at the whiteart with the meeting with john bel edwards. we are waiting to go in, and certainly in louisiana, that was one of the hot spots for coronavirus in the early going. since the beginning of april there has been a steady downward trend in louisiana. governor andrew is extending the order through may 15, but it allows certain advertisements. that they put together a report yesterday on how to begin the reopening process. it's clearly become a big concern. the president ramping up the rhetoric against china and how it led at the coronavirus outbreak become a pandemic. the president addressing it yesterday when meeting with small business owners. listen here. speak >> president trump: it should have been stopped at the source, and it wasn't. we have a hundred 84 countries going through. >> secretary of state mike pompeo pushing back on china's claims that the virus originated in the united states, not china. listen here. >> this is classic communist information. we all know them from the sovie

john harwood, you have this battle royal set up potentially between the white house and states on whoo reopen the economy, parts of the economy, et cetera. is that a battle politically that the president wants? does he really want to take this all the way to the supreme court on this question? does that serve him well in his view? >> reporter: i don't think so. i don't think it is going to turn out to be as big as a battle he felt yesterday when he asserted that authority. i think this was the president blowing off steam, watching governors take the lead and say in effect president trump's not going to get the job done so we're going to move ahead. and he's responding by saying, no, no, i'm the president, i got the power. he sort of gave away the game later in the briefing when he said, well, the states are going to go along with what i want, mike dewine was on with anderson, he's the -- last night -- he's the governor of ohio, he was asked this question. he said, well, you know, the buck stops with me and i'm going make the final decision. but we'll consult with the president. i thin

of course what would the white house be without flowers? john quincey adams and andrew jackson kept a flower garden on the west side of the grounds. the history has proven to be he lucive to track down. this is, in fact, the only known image of the original white house flower garden. and it's not exactly much of a view, is it? the garden is located here in the middle ground of the photo. there is this wooden structure. the foregrounds dominated about think crane used in the construction of the treasury building's west wing. wait this is expansion of t treasury building that necessitated the removal of the original white house flower garden. and for the rest the 19th century, there really were no ornamental gardens on the white house grounds. no real flower gardens in the way we think of them today. and why would that be? well, frankly, because the president and their families didn't have any outdoor space to plant such a garden. that is no private outdoor space to plant such a garden. the north grounds were open to the public as jefferson intend

let's get more on that with our white house correspondent john harwood. we're go to hear from the president today his plan. we should note it is not up to him, the states want to know what they should do, but what should we hear from the white house today in. >> well, poppy, i think you identified the key variable in what we're going to see. the difference between having this be just more public relations tap dancing from the president versus a real step forward is whether or not he outlines with these guidelines steps that states need to achieve and a commitment by the federal government to help the states achi s s achieve them, particularly testing, surveillance testing, symptomatic testing and contact tracing. those are the things for all of the talk about reopening the economy, business leaders agree, public health authorities agree, state governors who have the ultimate decision making authority agree has to be done. the president spent earlier parts of the week blame casting others for the administration's performance and the catastrophe that we're

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white people. and the specter of a real race war is real. they saw john brown as an equity is -- white northerners republicans and people in support of john brown and yes that that scare them and something got attention recently, did not get it for a long time. series of unexplained fires in texas in 1860 that spread eastward and these were attributed to people who were trying to create havoc and help some kind of racial uprising. they got a great deal of attention at the time. they had begun to get little scholarly attention. not much for a long time, but you put that together with john brown in these other imaginings of what a republican republican coming in might do and you have a very in volatile situation on just the question that you are talking about. if you want responses to how much this bothered people in the confederate context, look at responses in early 1863 to news of the final proclamation of emancipation, including robert e. lee's letter lee is he used to be seen as a moderate. his response to the proclamation is deeply angry and really st

cnn white house correspondent john harwood joins us now. john, he's the head of the coronavirus task force. i mean, the idea that in that room, i can't think of a more telling video than that every single person, doctors and patients, are wearing masks, and only vice president pence at the mayo clinic was not wearing a mask. so, okay, his staff now realizes it was a mistake, maybe optically, but does the vice president think it was a mistake not to wear a mask? >> reporter: well, look, they think it was a mistake because they got negative press coverage about it. but make no mistake this was not an accident. this was a deliberate choice. when you go into a clinic like that, where you know what the policy is, they told you, where you can see that everyone else is wearing one and you're not, you stick out luike a sore thum, the vice president said later he wanted to look everyone in the eye. that would make sense if public health authorities were asking us to wear blindfolds to stop the coronavirus, but they're not. they're asking us to cover

that they pass the civil rights laws on their own martin luther king went to see john kennedy and kennedy he left the white house and he said kennedy didn't care. he was really upset about it. what happened over time because of king and some of the people i mentioned people began to see we needed justice. the pressure came from the bottom up. the marches, the gassing the dog biting the jailing it did not square with us. we wanted justice. and the politicians ultimately after a decade long struggle began to pass the laws. women suffrage. >> do you think the guys wanted to give you your power they didn't. you think about how long it took for women to get the right to vote. if you are an african-american and you have to wait even longer to get the right to vote because you weren't favored. we demanded it from the bottom up. i'm convinced that if we have not have the protest on our college campuses we would still be in vietnam today. they would have some reason as to why we would still be there. they got ended by the students and the adults that finally said enough of this. some is going to be true about that.

just think, the very next wedding listed in the same register took place in the white house. for john quincy adams son. thank you all for being here tonight to have this important conversation that we are privileged to host. i will now welcome forward my good friend stewart mcclintock. the president of the white house historical association. . >> i think you very much. rob to reverend fisher and the people of st. john's church, it is wonderful to be in your historic home. in this historic neighborhood here tonight for this very very important conversation. i also want to thank the queens who performed for us. they are local washington d.c. group. it is wonderful to have them with us tonight and i hope you enjoyed their music. (applause) to our friends joining us tonight by c-span and on facebook live, we hope you have enjoyed this conversation and that it encourages you along with everyone here to dive deeper into the topic that we will be unpacking for you this evening. i'm here tonight on behalf of the board of directors of the white house historical association. our national counci

>>john happy birthday us want a white it was yesterday that spring really cleared its throat and sweet forecaster john park going on fotoday herbert that it looks like wonderful, it's really feel like sping again today to although wehave a change of the guard happening in the first kind of hit of that is ing to be today. live shot here of what we've got going on alcatraz island behind that you can see the city off the left-hand side of course the bay bridge golden gate bridge over that morning glazon cruise boat coming in there. i thk you that it's a it's and all that haze going on for some fog but not much of that basically clear skies not much the way traffic either now what we have here doesn't seem like mu i grant but up in the left-handside of your screen. you see all that kind of easy stuff and whatever. that's the hint of a little weak low pressure system area and we'll gesome of that cloud has come this weekend buthe important issue is this is that change of the guard day you're going to feel even ithe inland areas, the winds start to shift little bit more on shore probably by

joining me anyway, white house correspondent john harwood and our resident fact checker daniel dale. john harwood, you first. today was the deadliest day of the pandemic in the u.s. but it's clear that the president is still anxious to rewrite -- or to reopen the country and rewrite history potentially even earlier than his advisers suggest, john. >> that's right. but the president is, as he said today, he's going to defer to states and states are going to make their plans. in fact, he even said, today, that he would stop states if he thought it was unsafe. but i think it was a remarkable news conference that he had today, don, because in multiple ways, he was kind of waving the white flag on offering leadership in this crisis. two examples. first, he comes out and blames the world health organization, and says he is going to cut off funding. now, yes, the world health organization was slow and too differential to china. but more importantly, that is a backward looking step to take that does nothing to solve any problem that american business or worker or hospital patient has right n

white house economic adviser. thanks so much for joining us this morning. >> good morning, john.other hassett is all gloom and doom, but let me give you some good news, maybe some breaking news. today we're going to have who i call the 21st century rosie the riveter come to the white house, kim glass, runs a national council textile organizations. about six weeks ago i started working with her group to repurpose these factories that were making things like t-shirts into making masks and gowns, now they're into swabs and things like that. group's coming here to talk about all that and what i see from the micro level is that most rapid industrial mobilization since world war ii, so a lot of good things are going on in the economy. >> okay. >> at the micro level. >> do you think hassett is wrong? >> i think that from the macro perspective, i'll let kevin and steve mnuchin and larry kudlow look at that. >> you called it gloom and doom, though. i'm just curious if you're suggesting that it's too gloom and doom. >> i think what we need now is optimism as we begin to try to get america

. >> john harwood is with us today covering the white house. john, you saw the president over the weekend and in recent days. yeah, he's in a bit of a mood. >> reporter: he's in a mood, john. he's getting a very harsh judgment from governors who are criticizing his performance, from those of us in the press who are covering the president's performance, and from those poll numbers. there is another one you didn't mention which is the pugh research center last week showed two-thirds of the american people think he's been too late on the coronavirus, and i think he's struggling under the pressure of that harsh judgment. so he spent a long time at that briefing yesterday plaintively pleading with the american people that he's done a good job. he also decided to give some comfort to those protesters who were out in various states protesting against policies that he himself has called for. >> reporter: are you concerned that your talk about liberation in the second amendment, are you inciting violence among the people? >> i've seen the interviews. the

we begin with chief white house correspondent john roberts live on the north lawn of the white house.> dana, good afternoon. it will be either this afternoon at 5:00 during the coronavirus at briefing and it could also be tomorrow that the coronavirus task force will tell the nation about a recommendation, they should cover their face in some way especially if they can't maintain a recommended 6-foot social distancing between person to. here's more of what dr. fauci said about that tonight. >> because of that and because of some recent information that the virus can actually be spread even when people just speak, part of that is when you are out and you can't maintain a 6-foot distance, to wear some sort of facial covering. >> now on the subject of mask for professionals and first responders the president again invoking the defense production act this time against 3m after the white house discovered that we are not bringing back enough mass that are made at 3m facilities overseas to the united states. the president tweeted "we hit 3m hard today after seeing what they were doing with t

my husband was on the white house staff for john kennedy. we knew the kennedy family. one yn this book on the roosevelts means so much is that it's really first time i had to get through as an order historian without the advantage of knowing lyndon johnson or knowing the kennedy family. it's been fun. >> is there any information? the book? >> definitely. i think by choosing this period of time and experiencing on the homefront and battle front, for all the thousands of books written about world war ii, very few focus on what happened at home. most are essay kind of books. there could be very little evidence of trying to understand roosevelt's leadership, how he mobilized this democracy. i think that is the greatest contribution in a certain sense to the war. even more than the strategy of the war itself, how he got our country to produce the weapons for the war. that's what won the war. this was there for anybody to see. they're in the roosevelt library and on micro fiche. at the end of the day there is a white house usher who would record everything that happened duri

louisiana democrat john bel edwards meeting with president trump at the white house right now. the governor of louisiana has extended his state's stay-at-home order through may 15th. we'll keep an eye on any headlines coming out of that white house meeting. as always, we're tracking the number of coronavirus cases in our country right now. there are more than 1.2 million known cases in the united states, and so far more than 58,000 americans have died, but americans aren't just seeing their physical health tested by this virus. there's also a larger discussion being had about the toll it is taking on our mental health. that's why this morning we're going to do something just a little different with our doctor on duty. paula madrid is a clinical psychologist. she's going to be here with us this hour to dig into the toll the pandemic is taking on our mental health. paula, it's good to have you. we'll come to you in just a moment. we start with the great team of reporters fanned out all over the country, covering big questions about safety as some parts of the nation continue to r

parts of south where 90% ep slaved people and 10% white people and the specter of a race war is real and saw john brown indicative of what the white north seemed to want. white northerners and republicans and people in support of john brown and yes, that did scare them. something that has gotten attention, didn't get it a long time, unexplained fires if texas in 1860 that spread eastward and these were attributed to people who were trying to create havoc and help some kind of racial uprising and got a great deal of attention at the time. they have begun to get scholarly attention, didn't get much for a long time, put that with john brown and other imaginings of a republican coming in might do and have a volatile situation on just the question that you're talking about. when you look -- i'll say one more thing if you want responses to how much this bothered people within a confederate context look at responses in early 1863 to news of the final proclamation of emancipation including robert e. lee's letter. lee is usually seen as a moderate, his response to the emancipation proclamation is deeply a

white house. and since they have been doing these korn meetings. but john they also did not have a coronavirus meeting with the task force yesterday either. that's pretty rare as well. meeting basically every day since they were first assembled. so what you are seeing a shift inside the white house not only briefings but how they are going to be handling this going forward at least from public phasing aspect. >> and jackie one of the constants of this presidency but it has very much more meaning in a life and death situation like a pandemic is the president will say something reckless or dangerous, reckless in the case of can people ingest disinfectanting asking ex'ertz to look into that. they say just ignore the president. i want you to listen here just two of the governors saying actually, no, it's a public health problem. >> i think it's critical that the president of the united states when people are really scared and in the middle of this worldwide pandemic, that in these press conferences that we really get the facts out there. and unfortunate lir som

polls, not just that poll but many polls across the battle ground states are showing. >> and john, at today's white house briefing, the president trouted out what seems to be his favorite version of it, which is a bunch of high powered business executives people running companies like walmart and the giant pharmacy chains around the country but once again, making some statements about what they might be able to achieve in the future on testing after they've already failed to do what some of these same people said they would do on testing in the past. >> right. i think, you know, that it's -- we've seen the show before that we saw today and i'm not going to ever be in a position to deme demean. there are companies across america doing heroic work. they are being put and right to be there in some sense, they are trying to do what they can in the service, not of the president but in the service of the country but i do think that we have seen that parade of ceos up there before and the record the president has to run on the record that i think, you know, we're talked about this on the show before and i

john roberts is live at the white house was more. >> i think a lot of people have stances on the schoolssue, not how probable that is. the white house announced announcing a new plan yesterday to rapidly ramp up testing during the months of may and june as the nation struggles to reopen. the plan is for the federal government to be able to provide in conjunction with the nation's governor the testing supplies needed which would be a swabs and testing media so this states could meet a baseline testing of 2.4% of the population. if the government wants to increase testing beyond that the white house says it will work with them to increase that further. >> president trump: we are doing everything in power to heal the sick gradually reopen our nation and to safely get our people back to work. they want to get back to work and they want to get back to work soon. >> a lot of competing pressures about reopening the country. there seems to be a risk in the up taking of the coronavirus cases and deaths. in fact the institute of the health metrics and evaluation predicting that the number of deat