let's welcome attorney and former congressional investigator sam dewey. you on. the justice department also said that the fbi's interview was quote, conducted without any legitimate investigative basis because, by that time the fbi had decided, by the time of the interview, flynn was not going to be useful for the trump russia rush probe. your take on this? >> this is extraordinary development to see the department of justice publicly admit this occurred and to move to dismiss the indictment as extraordinary and to the point you just made i think what makes it so extraordinary the department of justice is political institution in one sense but not political in the other and the check against the politics when it comes to prosecution is the procedures, proper predication, proper notification and it seems apparent that a select group of people deliberately circumvented those controls. that is extraordinarily concerning. elizabeth: yeah, the notes recently disclosed notes from the fbi said, what is the gameplan here? we're going to get flynn to lie to an fbi

let's welcome back to the show former congressional investigator, sam dewey.reaction to the news that christopher wray fbi director saying we will look into this? >> i think it is long overdue. i am surprised it did not happen months ago. the fbi gained its credibility from the fact it is nonpolitical and has a bunch of procedures in place to keep the investigation away from political controversy. we have known for months that a group of individuals who apparently despise the president maliciously manipulated and diverted those procedures and control to attack the president at any cost. liz: here's the other story that is breaking, your reaction to joe biden refusing to say whether he will comply with senate subpoenas and republican probes involving biden's son hunter biden with his work in ukraine when joe biden was appointed the obama administration in ukraine. he is saying he may not comply, he did not answer whether he will comply, he said is just a diversion. and joe biden had a mistake that he made. he's saying if you don't vote for me for african-americ

let's bring in attorney, former congressional investigator sam dewey. they all get mail-in ballots.ecause of the covid pandemic. house democrats like nancy pelosi wants this too. what is your position on this? what do you think? >> i think it is rather extraordinary to fundamental change how we do elections and to put into place on very little notice a system that has been proven to have serious election issues. the lawsuit is correct and it seems to me to be a perhaps, well intentioned but flawed approach. elizabeth: okay. jerry nadler in 2004 said paper ballots have, are rife, have a lot of fraud. they're extremely susceptible to fraud. that is a quote. watch jerry nadler in 2004. >> in my experience in new york, paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud. at least with the old clunky voting machines we have in new york, the deliberate fraud is way down, compared to paper, when the machines break down they vote on paper, we've had real problems. that is, there has got to be a way, there has got to be a way, i'm simply observing that as a problem. there has got to be away of