. >> joining me is four star general barry mccaffrey. first of all, your thoughts about the west point graduation. because there's a letter also, a published letter to the class of 2020 there, published from federal members writing sadly the government has threatened to use the army in which you serve as a weapon against fellow americans engaging in these legitimate protests. the principle of civilian control is central to the military profession but that does not imply blind obedience. so there is the concern. it may have been that that letter was formulated before general milley's apology yesterday, but what are your thoughts in general? >> well, i think the president going to speak at west point was prompted largely by vice president pence's fairly good reception here at the air force academy. the graduation ceremony tomorrow will be completely safe. they're going to be out in the plain, they'll be socially distanced. mechanically i don't think it's a big problem. the corps cadets will be extremely courteous. by the way, andrea, we ha

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arms forces. >> general barry mccaffrey, hoping you stay safe in seattle. thank you so very much for adding your voice to this day we have been covering and this photo op we watched happen in real time in the 6:00 hour here on the east coast. frank figliuzzi is also back with us tonight. he is a veteran of counterintelligence at the fbi and has long been one of our msnbc contributors in this area. frank, your comments last night during our three-hour coverage in the middle of prime time brought probably the most text traffic on my phone from all the people in my circle of any segment i've done in recent memory. you talked about a group domestically that few people have heard of here before called the boogaloo boys and others. it was all in response to a question from me. when these groups of protesters seem unlike all the others, day protests have a certain personality and a peacefulness about them. everything changes at night. and even within groups, there seem to be a sub group of people willing to commit that violent act. explain to people what might be

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arms forces. >> general barry mccaffrey, hoping you stay safe in seattle.nk you so very much for adding your voice to this day we have been covering and this photo op we watched happen in real time in the 6:00 hour here on the east coast. frank figliuzzi is also back with us tonight. he is a veteran of counterintelligence at the fbi and has long been one of our msnbc contributors in this area. frank, your comments last night during our three-hour coverage in the middle of prime time brought probably the most text traffic on my phone from all the people in my circle of any segment i've done in recent memory. you talked about a group domestically that few people have heard of here before called the boogaloo boys and others. it was all in response to a question from me. when these groups of protesters seem unlike all the others, day protests have a certain personality and a peacefulness about them. everything changes at night. and even within groups, there seem to be a sub group of people willing to commit that violent act. explain to people what might be goin

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. >> joining me is retired general barry mccaffrey and jeffrey rosen. welcome, gentlemen. general, the expression crossing the rubicon refers to the idea in rome, the rule was no roman general may cross the rubicon riverhe headed to rome with a foreign army. in many ways, america follows that concept. why is this a subject for confusion these days? >> it shouldn't be. clearly the armed forces have on occasion used for domestic disturbances. to stay out of all domestic law enforcement. we don't arrest american citi n citizens and we don't collect evidence. >> jeff, let's talk about the constitutionality of it. what does the law say about this? >> the general is absolutely right. the constitution gives specific circumstances where force can be used. article i section 15 allows congress to authorize the use of the militia to execute the law suppre suppress, insurrection. and it gives the states protections of the republican form of government and on the request of state legislature against domestic violence. secretary esper announced the insurrection act in 1807. that allows