the federal government has sent federal agents to do different places, one, in portland, oregon to work against protesters. now there is a new initiative to fight crime in chicago and other cities, called operation legend. what do we need to know about this? guest: thank you for drawing the distinction between those two different programs. in thats need to start way. in portland, the federal government explains what it is doing by saying it needs to protect its own buildings. the federal courthouse has been under siege for weeks and weeks, there have been attempts to set it on fire, with attacks on those protecting it. the rest of the recent announcement, with chicago, albuquerque, and more cities to come, is different. violence,cted against like the terrible drive-by shooting at the chicago funeral the other day. most of these cities have seen a spike in homicides, street shootings, gang warfare and other crime problems that we have had to some extent all along. so it is two different federal responses. hasortland, the controversy come because people are policing themselves. according

why is donald trump sending federal troops to confront protesters in u.s. cities the president says violent crime needs to be controlled opponents denounce what they call a political stunt does the deployment set a dangerous precedent for american democracy this is inside story. hello and welcome 'd to the program i'm wrong donald trump often calls himself the lower note a president it's one of the campaign themes in his bid for re-election less than full months from now is accused some city mayors of failing to rein in weeks of protests against police brutality. trump sent in federal agents to portland in oregon earlier this month he said the aim was to support local police and protect government buildings from increasingly violent unrest some protesters say they were arrested without cause and taken away in unmarked cause trumps also announced what he called a surge of federal offices to other cities such as chicago to combat violent crime that. extreme politicians have joined this police crusade and relentlessly vilified our law enforcement heroes to. lo

facilities and federal properties. mainly the federal courthouse. the department's mission is very clear. we are charged with protecting federal facilities across the country. we have been protecting the courthouse in downtown portland since 1997 when it first opened. we began to see a rise in violent activity targeting federal facilities in late may in portland, coinciding with the death of george floyd. let me reiterate that the department fully supports those who wish to peacefully protest. let me say this again. we support and we will protect those who want to peacefully protest. unfortunately what we are seeing in portland every night, roughly from midnight to 4:30 or 5:00 a.m., is a complete opposite. again, what is occurring in portland in the early hours of every morning is not peaceful protesting. these individuals are organized and they have one mission in mind. to burn down or to cause extreme damage to the federal courthouse and to law enforcement officers. at times we also see them targeting city property.

55 days now there has been a seizure on federal courthouse and on monuments on federal property and the people who are trying to guard that courthouse and protect those monuments federal authorities are acting lawfully and are under attack and makes the point that well portland is overwhelmingly why. i don't contest that it's not about attacking black people this is about protecting i think putting rampant violence and protecting federal property and at the moment the other thing that there that he says that i agree with this is part of the responsibility of state police and state authorities worst state laws but earle out of federal laws out there including against firearms and violence and and drop the bombs that are being spent to chicago for instance at the moment local police are diverted to crowd control and federal authorities have all sorts of rights and duties to enforce those laws now are there are things happening on the ground in port that are excessive possibly that this the department of justice is specter general parra which has said that he is going to look in to that an

we will be adding federal agents to the task forces. these are street agents, investigators who will be working to solve murders and to and down violent gangs, they will be working shoulder to shoulder with our state and local colleagues. this is a different kind of operation, obviously. werethe tactical teams used to defend against riots and mob violence, and we are going to continue to confront mob violence. at the operations we are discussing today are very different. fighting.lassic crime we have named the operation as we said, operation legend, and we started rolling it out a couple of weeks ago in kansas city. just to give you an idea of what is possible, the fbi went in very strong into kansas city and within two weeks, we have had 200 arrests. we will be adding cities in the we arehead, and for now, including, beyond kansas city, chicago and albuquerque. the fbi is today announcing rewards for information related to the killing of legend, jackie, and renato. we are seeking justice for those victims today, and operation legend ai

their job at federal facilities in and around them to exercise federal authority to protect federal lawt as much is. >> ken: i'm not accusing you. i'm just asking you about it. >> dave: my question is whether or not you were prepared to defend it if necessary all the way to the supreme court. >> ken: absolutely. >> dave: or will you just keep going on with what you're doing? >> ken: we certainly are well within the boundaries of the law and the constitution. this is a layup of a win for anybody who would find a to legally challenge us protecting federal facilities under federal law and executing arrests for people who violate that or attack those officers. that is legally easy to defend and i am a legal expert. i don't have any problem saying that. it's just, it's really a policy argument that you hear as opposition. but, let's look at just left wing mayors. surely they will be nice. even that city council started to advance more to take back their own city. >> dave: i only have about 30 seconds. but i want to ask you about antifa and whether a federal statute will be used to try to get

the federal bureau of investigation from the d. e. a the drug enforcement administration from the a.t.f. alcohol tobacco and firearms agency and the h s i this is the homeland. the department of homeland security. acronym for this so we will see in those cities according to the president now a significant number off all federal law enforcement officers and as you can imagine the cities he chose are run by democrats as mayors. so they are not that happy about this and it is so far an open question why no. violence in chicago is bad no doubt about this a lot of people die there every day every weekend. and local law enforcement trying to get a whole hand on this and a handle on this for years but why sending in now federal law enforcement personnel that is maybe a political question so just to be clear. this deployment to take chicago the as you mentioned this is completely separate so these days these protests the being dealt with by federal office as they say portland. until racism protests that appear to have got out of hand this

not happening in chicago we don't need federal troops we don't need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago that's not democracy that we saw unfolding in the streets of portland as a result of this federal action that's what we call tyranny and dictatorship and we're not having it in chicago. residents of chicago say extra police won't solve the issues facing the city saying action on gun control would be more effective in tackling violent crime and washington correspondent stefan simons gave us this is testament of president trump's announcement the president wants to send more federal law enforcement personnel into cities his administration now perceives to be hotbeds of increasing violence example chicago president trump sees quote explosion of shootings and quote now what's behind all of this right politics in the eyes of many experts and observers here the president plays the law and order card now because he's convinced that this will benefit him at the presidential elections come november the president and or his reelection advisers believe that now is t

the last thing i will say is along witith the federal agents, the risk of federal agents in unmarkedicles coming into our city and what that means for people that are protesting, what that means for organizations, i think is also important to note that police have taken the gloves off. just this past week in chicago, young organizer who i worked when i metete boyd her she was fighting to stop the closure of all the high schools in her neighborhood, she was protesting at an event where aey were trying to protest clung to statatue and a chicago police officer,, as she was vigorously protesting, ran up on this 18-year-old girl and's master in the mouth with t this baton and knococked her teeth o. we just had a conference e with mimiracle yesterday. thee brutality is not new. the infrfringement on our righgs is not new.. whether the agent isis donald trump the agent of chchange for this type of infringement onon r righghts -- our rights are alrey being infrfringed upon. , i'mjesse hagopian wondering if you can address -- the activisism in seattle has bn zonese, the autonomous that were s

property which is a federal felony and would justify federal agents apprehending them.problems as i see it is that apparently most of these people are being released shortly after they arrested, so they are never presented to a magistrate and the government has never required to explain exactly what the legal justification was for their arrest, and that, i think, contributes to the perception that this is really harassment and not necessarily the protection of federal facilities. and the president says he is having to act because he says very liberal democrats, the radical left as he puts it, i'm not acting, he is clearly trying to make a election issue. there are also suspicions he is trying to distract from his handling of the pandemic. i don't think we can avoid that narrative stopping the reality is that traditionally we rely on local and state authorities to maintain order and to protect federal facilities maintain order and to protect federalfacilities in maintain order and to protect federal facilities in their jurisdiction. a federal court ina jurisdiction. a fe

president trump says the deployment of federal forces that. will be increased to include other cities where he says they're needed to restore order critics say the move is politically motivated and will create even more anger also on the program a german court conflicts a former concentration concentration camp guards for crimes committed during the holocaust the court finds the guilty of being successful. 1000 people. welcome to the program and rest are growing in the united states after president trump's announcement that he'll send federal troops into several democratic controlled cities he says that need to deal with a surge in violent crime but the trump deployment of federal forces already operating in portland oregon has been targeting protesters demanding racial justice with the man himself caught in the crossfire. it's hard to bring the mayor of portland by federal on. fizzes in the middle of his own city. ted wheeler was in a group of protesters outside a federal courthouse he said he saw nothing which provoked this response but. the

they are going left at 75% federal. the cost share going up to 100% may also be required in those jurisdictions that are seeing the impact of covid-19 demand as well as reduction in income. thank you, sir. >> along the same lines, last week, the mayor of mississippi testified that they are still waiting on money after a tornado caused major damage to the city. that was six years ago. can we expect localities to wait this long for fema reimbursements and how can we speed up the process to ensure local governments could receive their reimbursements? >> we were doing reimbursements and are still doing reimbursements for hurricane katrina. we are doing a billion dollar in my last year on wastewater treatment systems. -- that can take a while. more concerned about the immediate cost, which is the response cost. fema should be moving that money out very quickly. congress has provided the funding. this may be something -- sometimes, we get so fearful of making mistakes and slow the process down with bureaucracy instead of focu

city wants the help or not. >> well, there's a federal courthouse and a federal building in the middlef portland. and so, with that comes federal authority to protect that facility and the people in and around it. so we always prefer to have law enforcement relationships be partnerships with localities and states. and over the vast majority of america, that's what happens, even when there are political differences among the leadership, but that is unfortunately an exception in portland, though there are other cities that we have tenuous political relationships with that have very good law enforcement relationships >> speaking of portland, there are several reports that show over the past week federal agents in camouflage and tactical gear have made targeted arrests, in one case using an unmarked car. why is that action necessary? >> sure, great question. so after 35 or 40 straight days of violence in portland, we obtained intelligence that federal areas were going to be targeted and we'd see directed violence at those facilities. so we advanced other officers in to help the base office

government to enforce federal law and protect federal property. paul: are there any limits on what federal law enforcement can do? let's say, obviously they can protect federal property but let's say you get somebody who they observe looting a private business. can they act as law enforcement and that kind of a case, arrest somebody doing that? >> i think they are regarded as peace officers and could but that's not what they are there for. also, understand the federal government has limited resourc resources. just to give you an idea of the scale, the new york city police department has about 38000 officers. the entire fbi has 12,000 or 13000 special agents worldwide. marshall service has people and dea has people but again, we are talking about a small number compared to the large number of local officials that exist so it's a matter of discretion, you have to be careful how you allocate those resources. paul: is also the issue a lot of these local officials say they don't want any kind of federal presence. they can handle it themselves. apart fr

federal property. as you mentioned, chicago, kansas city and albuquerque, but we're told the program most certainly will expand. >> the federal government has a sworn duty to uphold the laws of the united states through field offices and federal facilities across the country. these agents protect and serve the american people. yet the rhetoric of the left undermines our justice system, with nancy pelosi calling them stormtroopers. wheeler using the term paramilitary forces. >> jon, using the word paramilitary forces talking about todd wheeler, the mayor of portland, he's saying get out of my city. let the local police run this operation. the district attorney in philadelphia is actually taking it one step further. he said if any of the president's federal officers or agents come into philadelphia and act unlawfully, he will see they are arrested and charged which means, jon, a showdown between local and federal authority. jon? jon: what a country, david spunt, in bridgewater, new jersey, thank you. >>>

crime we don't need federal troops we don't need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago i want to be very very clear that we will not allow this to happen in our city we are ready willing and able to go in there with great force and if we see these federal officers on our streets then we will see. in court for those people in chicago and other cities where we'll be help is on its way. also on the day of 93 year old former nazi death camp god receives a 2 year suspended sentence for his role in the murder of thousands of people. how is this a measure of justice that is not published he goes home happy they go back to their nightmares and dramas. the president trump has announced that he will send federal forces into more u.s. cities he says it's to combat a surge in crime in cities like chicago kansas city missouri and albuquerque cities that are all brought in by what the president has described as the radical left but the truck deployment of federal forces already operating in portland oregon has been targeting protesters demanding racial justice and city off

federal courts are under attack. since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? if someone went down the street to the court hear that beautiful courthouse we have at the bottom ofve the hill i started breaking windows and firing industrial grade fireworks into start a fire, throw kerosene balloons and start fires in the court, is that okay? is that okay now? no. the u.s. marshals have a duty toow stop that and defend the courthouse. that is what we are doing in portland. we are at the courthouse defending the courthouse. we are not out looking for trouble. >> thank you gentlemen. as far as weapons and devices that were utilized by the groupan of people you mentioned trying to destroy the courthouse. they were literally trying to burn it down. and apparently did not give a hoot about the people who were occupied in the building as well. so people were in danger. so that is absolutely right. >> 's was far as the weapons you mention, let me get this straight, my understanding is that people attackingpl the building had among other things rifles, explosives, knives,

of federal property. thank you, mr. chairman. listing for meur the areas of concern in your opening statement, and i am looking forward to addressing them all. nadler: we will now proceed under the five minute rule with questions and i will recognize myself for five minutes. 22, you joined the president as he announced the --ansion of operation legend let me start that again. on july 20 second you joined the president as he announced the expansion of operation legend, an initiative to combat violent crime in kansas city with approximately 61 million dollars of doj grants. ofm confused as the purpose launching operation legend at this moment in time. in december of last year, you announce the department would divert $70 million in grant seven u.s. cities -- correct? a.g. barr: that's right. rep. nadler: operation relentless pursuit targeted familiar list of cities, places like albuquerque, baltimore coming kansas city, correct? a.g. barr: correct. rep. nadler: at the same press conference, you claimed 200

i want to acknowledge the federal emergency management agency, which was put in charge of the federal government's response, was asked to testify today. fema is not here today, but i understand there is an administrator to appear before the full committee later this month. i'm pleased to hear this, because it's vital we work together to address this challenge. i look forward to meeting with administrator gaynor soon and hearing what administrators have to say to form the discussion. there's no denying the coronavirus pandemic has presented unparalleled challenges. one of the greatest challenges has been procuring adequate gowns, supplies and ppe, gloves, surgical masks, and n95 respirators. a surgeon global demand for these supplies, most of which are produced overseas, caused severe shortages, especially for those on the front lines. in response, the federal government distributed the andted supply expedited ppe shipments by airlift's, distributors, existing customers, rather than to states directly. it caused states to find their own supplies to distribute with areas with greatest n

in the meantime, we will use federal law enforcement to vigorously charge federal crimes and support these besieged communities to the greatest extent possible. this will be hard, painstaking work. it will take time. the tide will not recede overnight, but we will marshal all of the strength and focus and determination that we can possibly do. this is a critical effort. we will continue to call on state and local leaders to do their job and protect their citizens. the operation in chicago will be done as part of operation legend, which was recently launched in kansas city, missouri and very successfully, i might add. it is named after legend taliferro, a four-year-old boy who was shot. think of this: he was shot and killed last month while he lay asleep in his home. legend's mother grieves our hearts and pains and souls and we thank you very much for being here. thank you very much. thank you very much. appreciate it. we are profoundly grateful to be joined by charron. would you please stand? charron? charron, please. and also, legend's father raphael and his grandparents, alfred and

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>> yes. >> do you delay federal law to protect federal property? >> yes. >> would the federal building in portland be standing today if you had not deployed federal law enforcement? >> i don't think so. there had been multiple attempts to set it afire. i have to say, i don't understand why a small contingent of marshals inside the court poses a threat to anybody's first amendment rights. they set up a fence on federal property, i am told, around the court. and when people are arrested, it's because they're trying to come into the fence. these aren't peaceful protesters. they bring power tools to cut through the wire and so forth to get in. this is a strange occupation of the state when you have, you know, a hundred, 120 federal people behind the fence trying to protect a building and all these people are trying to cut their way in. that is the occupation of the city? >> thank you. did the chicago fraternal order of police president ask for your help? >> did who ask for my help? >> the head of the fop in chicago? >> i think he did. i think he did. p

video for let's president trump says the deployment of federal forces that began in portland will be increased to include other cities where he says they're needed to restore law and order critics say the move is politically motivated and looks create even more anger also on the show it sounds well as high gear sophia is due to reopen as a mosque the 1st friday prayers after more than 80 years as a museum. i'm claridge as an welcomes of the anger and unrest are growing in the united states following president trump's announcement that he will send us federal troops into several democrat controlled cities he says they're needed to deal with a surge in violent crime but the trump deployment of federal forces already operating in portland oregon has been targeting protesters demanding racial justice with the mayor himself caught in the crossfire. mary i am a big state and it's hard to bring the mayor of portland tear gassed by federal offices in the middle of his own city. ted wheeler was in a group of protesters outside a federal courthouse he said he saw nothing which provoked this ri

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not happening in chicago we don't need federal troops we don't need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago that's not democracy that we saw unfolding in the streets of portland as a result of this federal action it's what we call tyranny and dictatorship and we're not having it in chicago. residents of chicago say extra police won't solve the issues facing the city they say action on gun control would be more effective in tackling violent crime so let's head live now to portland oregon where i am joined by activists and journalists laura laura welcome to the program and we know that you've actually been part of the protests you've but you've been in them this evening tell us what you have been witnessing. well for the last 8 days arlen has been protesting black lives matter and the television and going around the nation tonight and protesting primarily against after about 11 in america not in talk really or but recently there was a right where it so i'm going to give out i do apologize but it's been a lot of traffic or thought here. the president says for his

the courthouse and the federal buildings.hose politicians, the mayor the governor of portland and seattle and all of these places, they took an oath, a constitutional oath of office to enforce the laws in the constitution of the federal constitution, the u.s. constitution, and they are state laws. >> lisa: why aren't they?e >> that is exactly, why aren't they? there has to be some number there has to be some way to hold them accountable, whether a civil rights issue. can the fbi come in and look at the civil rights issues? you know, why aren't theykn protecting the citizens of portland? we are obligated by law. >> lisa: what is the impact on all of this? as you pointed out from the terminology, the left speaks about federal police officers and we see local police officers be on the receiving end of vitriol violence as well. you are a former nypd commissioner. you are talking to police office on the ground all the time. what is the impact and what has it been on them? >> they are completely demoralized.s you know, whether new

have you violent agitators attacking a federal building and the federal government has every right toend that federal property and defend the rule of law in that context and for the local leaders to say we don't want this, get out of here, well they haven't been doing the job. they have not been getting the job done. this is almost now two consecutive months of violent upheaval every single night in that city. and so they are derelict and crocodile tears about the feds seems like an attempt to deflect blame and attention away from their own failures. >> harris: there is no freedom there. think about it. if you wanted to walk on your street and you live near those areas, right? and you have a stroller and you and your family want to take a walk around the block. sun set. these cities are beautiful. you are rethinking that because this stuff is breaking out and it is dangerous. mayor bill de blasio of new york is also pushing back against the president today. watch. >> president of the united states to be sending in federal officials to do work which they are not supposed to be doing. t

for example, in kansas city, they sent 225 federal agents. about 61 unsolved homicides this year. if instead of having folks that are doing any number of operations, we paired up one fbi agent with every unsolved homicide, first of all, we'd still have a lot of people left. but second we'd have a chance of impacting and denting into our total number of unsolved crimes. i mean there are better ways to do it, or if we talked about guns and gun trafficking, the atf should be working on the dugs because there's not a single firearm that is produced in kansas city or chicago. those are the sorts of things that we're looking for from federal cooperation. that's what we'll keep pushing for, i guess, for the duration of this administration and certainly throughout this operation. >> mayor, good to talk to you. thank you for taking some time to talk to us tonight. kansas city mayor quinton luke ago. >>> still ahead, a potentially lightning application of the zoom feature when it comes to joe biden's pick for vice president. that's next. stay with us.

they have the right to protect federal monuments. they have the right to protect federal buildings.t is certainly true. the question that is raised by all this is, is the federal government, through these actions just protecting their interests, their buildings, their property, or are they being more aggressive than that, seeking out conflict with protesters, where the local authorities could do a better job or even more, in a more sin ser w sinster way, are the federal authorities provoking more violence and more outrage than if they had simply not shown up in the first place. those are the questions that are raised. that's why the local government, state of oregon, city of portland, the two democratic senators from oregon are so outraged, because they think these, these federal authorities are actually just, even if they have the technical right to be in portland are doing more harm than good. >> jeffrey toobin helping us appreciate what's going on in portland, thank you for that and we look forward to your new book coming out in a few weeks. >>> despite new cases surging across g

today i'm announcing a surge of federal law enforcement into american communities plagued by violent crime donald trump says federal forces will be deployed to chicago and albuquerque democrats say it's a political stunt to boost a flanking reelection campaign. this is out there at live from doha also coming up in the program the spying claims and a mysterious fire china has ordered to shut its consulate in the u.s. to diffuse them as a diplomatic born 20 five's. california now has the largest number of coronavirus cases in the us a passing new york. the self-confessed middleman in the murder of a maltese journalist was found with severe knife wounds hours before he was jew to give evidence in court. so that he's been criticized for his response to the west in corona virus pandemic and to the demands for racial justice following george floyd's death but with just over 3 months to go before the presidential election donald trump is taking action and talking tough on 2 other fronts as administration has ordered that china's houston consulate to be shut down and the latest move against

breaking news, an armed attack on the home of a federal judge. this is very rare and cause for serious concern. the son and husband of this federal judge, esther salas, in new jersey, they were shot. the son is dead, the husband critically injured. the judge was not hurt. a source tells cnn that the gunman appeared to be wearing a fedex uniform and opened fire at the front door. this judge has presided over several high-profile cases. we'll bring you the very latest details. >>> also breaking overnight, tear gas fired at protests in portland, oregon. protesters and local officials want answers about the presence of hard-to-identify federal officers. we have a live report from both scenes, ahead. >> also, john, overnight, 61,000 new cases of coronavirus in the united states. the death toll is now more than 140,000 americans. cases in florida are still spiking, where dozens of hospital icus are beyond capacity. arizona is reporting a record death toll, as well. and president trump is reportedly bored with all of this. that's the quote in "the new y

law these federal authorities that are in there now, federal police have every right to be here. when you hear terms like flunkies and goons being thrown around you know these are people who have the best place to argue with witches in places where donald trump is very unpopular. shannon: the court of public opinion. how serious these problems are, we are asking about police brutality and lack of law in and order 76% say police brutality is a serious problem, 21% say not very or not. lack of law and order edges at 79% say there's a problem, not a very big problem or not a problem, 17% and this brings to mind the st. louis couple that has been charged because they say we have legally registered and owned guns, we felt under threat in their facing charges tonight so what do you make of this landscape where people say i'm not sure someone's going to shop to defend me, i will do it myself but if i do, i own these guns legally, i can still in the estimation of the local prosecutor crossed the line and be facing charges. >> remember this about guns and gun control and accusations again

versus that of the federal government and the federal government infringing on the states. i heard a moment ago how they spoke about their constitutional amendments to possibly address some of those. and if they could come into things i haven't heard about, that would be great. >> we have one minute left. let's understand the real significance of this case constitutionally. >> it affirmed earlier doctrines that were not anywhere near as prominent as the consciousness at the point in time we really did need a statement with regards to a strong federal government. >> the constitution was a compromise, unlike all compromises it had and beauties and silences. the ruling in mccullough via maryland, john marshall pretended those silences were not there. his vision and effectuating the strong government that he saw the u.s. could be isn't one of the reasons we remember the case and him today. >> when we talk about the size and scope of the federal government and the kinds of things it does, this is a debate going on in this town, can one look to mccullough versus maryland for open

standoff in portland at times violent between protesters and federal agents protecting the federal courthouse but at the same time i think the president who is failing in the polls and facing a pandemic in an economic crisis is looking for a new campaign theme and he is seizing on this as something he thinks he can run on this thing that's what this is he's looking for and we debate. i think that he is looking to change the headlines and and find some territory on which he thinks he can he can separate himself from biden and gain you know an issue where he thinks he will end up looking better. and that's why you heard him in the white house on monday basically saying that the country will quote you know go to hell biden is elected that he's the strong man who will restore law and order and that if the democrats win we will see you know portland and every american city the president has also announced what he called a federal forces into chicago and other cities so this is nowhere near over. that's right and one of the one of the interesting things to observe here has been that. you know homel

here's the problem, if he does use federal troops and god forbid now now we have federal troops, then you have the insane anarchists and bent on trouble and god forbid a conflict occurs and somebody dies, donald trump calls that when he's trying to protect grandma's, grandpa's, and 7-year-old little children and 10-year-old and 11-year-old children in chicago. >> as i understand it, mayor lightfoot who enjoys hitting the president and criticizing the president saying don't you dare come here, that is at the front door. at the back door, she is just as i understand it, alderman lopez can correct me if i'm wrong, has agreed to 200 federal fbi atf and dea agents, a federal task force going into chicago right now hopefully to do what i have long urged, go after these gangs as the organized criminals they are, far more deadly than anything else capone or his cohorts ever did back in the roaring '20s. in terms of the jerks on the west coast, this is theater to them. they are professional agitators, provocateurs, with their job, these young people. they go from seattle to portland and other

on wednesday night, federal forces fired tear gas at protesters once again. among those hit was portland mayor ted wheeleler, who also serves as police commissioner. meanwhile, the american civil liberties union has sued the department of homeland security, u.s. mararshals service, as well the city of portland for attacking medics while they care for injnjured protesters. for a second day in a row, the united states reported more than 1000 covid-19 deaths on wednesday. "the new york times" reports nearly 60,000 people are now hospitalized for covid-19 across the country, nearly eclipsing the number of hospitalizations during the peak of the pandemic in april. california set new single-day record on wednesday for cases and hospitalizations. the u.s. death toll has now topped 143,000 with the total number of confirmed cases approaching 4 million. the governors of indiana, minnesota, and ohio all announced new orders requiring residents to wear masks in public. meanwhile, a number of large businesses, including costco walmart, winn-dixie, and whole foods, are no

if we didn't have federal troops there, federal courthouses, federal buildings would literally fall.resident trump doesn't just have a legal obligation, he has a moral obligation to act and our nation is stronger than this mob. i'm glad that president trump is going to prove it. these municipal leaders who have been feckless and cowardly will be exposed for what they are. spewing matt gaetz could announce that he could run for president in 2028. >> sean: i've been hearing rumors about that. bernie kerik, the thing is that if they are going to turn federal agents into the enemy and their attitude is, get out of town, clean up the graffiti before you go, i don't think the president ought to take that step. at that point now he is not only fighting the anarchists who will be encouraged by these reckless, irresponsible failed mayors and governors. >> you know what, sean? there is something really bothering me in portland. that mayor and the governor, they are talking all that stuff about, he shouldn't be there, the troops shouldn't be there, they shouldn't be, you know, harassing the "pr