irwin redletter from columbia university and an msnbc public health analyst irwin, good to see, thank you for being with us. this is remarkable, the number of cases that you suggest may be occurring and the number of deaths a study from the university of washington predicts somewhere approaching a quarter million by november what you're suggesting is exponential growth in that number, in other words not a trend growth but something yet worse. >> yeah. hi, ali, good morning. yeah, so this is basically -- this basically begins with the understanding from very early on in the pandemic that half the u.s. population or more might come down with the disease the vast majority, of course, as we've discussed will not have much in the way of symptoms. however, 15% of those people will need the hospital care that they must have but also, if we're talking about only a 1% fatality rate only, we would be talking about 1.6 million people but it's probably going to be closer to a half of 1% is what we came up with for a final death toll or at least the death toll over the next 12 months that will rea

irwin, you might be muted. >> better? are you hearing me? >> there. now we can hear you.our answer is important. start again. >> okay. so i was just saying, yeah, it's really important that we be talking about opening schools. children need to get back to schools. there's no question about that. but we have to be able to do it safely, brian. this is the problem, same problem we had when we were reopening businesses. that we weren't taking enough precautions, that we opened businesses far too early and were left with lots of problems that are now resulting in this second huge wave in the sunbelt. and when we reopen the schools because children are involved, we have to be particularly careful. lots and lots of special measures needed to protect kids and to protect the teachers and staff who work in the schools. so a lot of work being done on that. but, again, here's a place where we could really use some advice and guidance from the federal government, which we're not getting. >> because of the pandemic, we are in the era of skype and zoom, and irwin, sadly, you've switched

age 62, doctor irwin once again answered the country's call. before yed to naval retiring as a captain in 2004 ith over 40 years of military service. in central washington, dr. irwin attitude for his kind toward the patients he cared for. to his fellow brothers in arms, hero. known as a he passed away on june 30, but e's left a lasting legacy of providing care wherever it was needed. my prayers go out to his family loved ones, and i urge my colleagues to join me in irwin's life and country.o our brad fisher of ken wick was -- a friend -- kennewick was a friend. father, husband, grandfather, and dedicated community leader. endless ways to serve others. ver the years, he served as a rotarian, a city councilmember, kennewick, and a member of numerous community boards. contributions to his community was his role as a ierce champion of local governance. he helped spear head the reconveyans effort in the tricities to return thousands of acres of river shoreland from the federal government and place the ck into the hands of local community. his work i

i'm speaking of course about irwin. who help me so much with this book. and will he allowed me to be here today. as iran mentioned, i've known him for more than 15 years. i've turned him for wisdom on more subjects than i can count. whether it is writing the city charter or the cases i've covered law for the patriot act for the war on terror. i know that no person who is more fluent on subjects, for more generous and grateful with his time and knowledge. in los angeles, we consider a great act, but we have shared irwin with you. and i think you intern for sharing him with a nation. rick i am enormously proud, that he is my friend. so with that, let me talk about another person earl warren. with many respects, i think he is misunderstood. sometimes by those who don't know better, and sometimes by those who should, or do or at least should know better. in his day, earl warren was accused, and in fact he was a rate enraged by crime. his father had been murdered in 1938 the assailant was never found. he was accused in the day of his sympathy towards communism

so irwin, you're in shopper's drug mart. know the company but would seem to be an analog at 1300 stores, nine provinces to the kind of thing where you might beable to go into a walgreens and go into a target you have great relationships with all of the major outlets. are you ready if the democrats sweep in november, which is a possibility, to make those calls and say look, i want you to be having broken coast in good supply and rift and let me tell you how they work? >> so, jim, i love that you know our brands and hopefully maybe you tried them once in awhile. okay more important is this here, jim. you know, we today have over 2.3 million square feet of greenhouses up here in canada. we produce over 265,000 kilos here okay we have in germany a facility that produces medical, the medical patients in germany. so, again, if the democrats sweep or even if mr. trump gets elected and they say here is what we're going to do, we're going to legalize medical cannabis on a federal basis and each of the states that need money, you go a

craig irwin of roth on tesla. we will continue to follow. tesla has -- has a call at the beginning at the bottom of the hour. we will talk about microsoft beating on revenue, but not so great numbers in the cloud. we will break it all down next. this is bloomberg. ♪ microsoft revenue rose in 13%,atest quarter signaling strong demand for its cloud computing software and services helping to keep workers connected around the world, as so many of us shelter-in-place on work from home. shares still down after hours. i want to bring in john freeman who covers the company. why do you think investors are not so excited about these numbers today? john: well, you know, i thought it was -- they beat consensus, but i think there was a lot of maybe hope for more significant upside. board,hink across the almost everything was definitely from significant sequential deceleration from the previous quarter. emily: what is your take on the cloud specifically? obviously you have investors with lofty expectations as so many foreign companies have been critical i

irwin redliner at columbia university in new york. he wrote this and we quote it's distinctly possible five months from now half of all americans could have been infected with coronavirus and more than 800,000 americans may die in this extraordinary outbreak. >>> despite predictions like those the trump administration doesn't have a plan to deal with the crisis that seems to be spinning further and further out of its control by the day. "the washington post" puts it this way -- there is no cohesive national strategy apart from unenforced federal health guidelines. the mijs is offering patch work solutions. trump and his team declare sweeping directives like re-opening schools and they have largely shirked responsibility to achieve them, putting the onus on states and local authorities. with that as the back drop, i'm join by friend and colleague nicolle wallace. nicolle, i would give anything to talk about good news prior to your entrance into this hour each day, but that is the world as we know it. >> you know what, i was thinking as

irwin redlener from colombia university. i want to start with california. they had a stay at home order in place for a long time. what is happening in california, can it all be attributed to human behavior, failing to wear masks and social distancing? >> hi, nicolle. there are a lot of factors, before i mention those, keep in mind, if there are 12,000 new cases, as the reporter steve was discussing, multiply that by ten. it has been repeatedly stated by experts that confirmed number, test confirmed number of 12,000 is no more than 10% of the actual total number. we're talking 120,000 cases, new cases in california. why is that happening? i think we had a rush to reopen, had too many people not following the rules, we have people instead of following health rules are following the horrendous example of the president of the united states. all of these things come together. people on the beaches without masks and distancing, people at bars. maybe changes in the virus, we don't know. we do know we're tracking a significant increase not only in california. it is

irwin redleter and eugene robinson. lucky for us, both msnbc contributors. eugene, if this then that. if donald trump was going to stand in front of spotters, don't believe your ears, the media is fake, only believe me. when we're in the throes of the most virulent and dangerous phase of a global pandemic here in our country, people didn't believe the science. >> that's absolutely right and so there are people who don't believe what's actually happening and that's a huge problem. but the other huge problem is just the lack of federal leadership. this is -- this is difficult but not that complicated. we have the data, right, we saw what happened in the new york area, where you guys actually did a shut down and stayed at home, clamped everything down, this horrific situation was brought under control, and to the point where there are actually very few new cases per day, zero deaths over the weekend if new york city. it's an astounding success story after an initial failure certainly, the shutdown could have came early. that's the way you control this virus. th

either you either have it or you don't undress nick member of the german parliament and professor irwin collier economics professor here in berlin to both of you gentlemen thank you very much we appreciate you sharing your stories with us tonight thank you. they get. the new security law in hong kong has created more questions than answers how far will the wall go in curtailing personal freedoms what we do know is this authorities in the territory have begun combing the city's libraries to find books that may violate the law all the wall which forbids supporting hong kong independence today hong kong chief executive kerry lamb warn people not to break the wall promising harsh consequences but pro-democracy activists fear the consequences are already real w.c. because reports. that for years now everyone has joined fellow members of his party on 1st of july to mark hong kong's handover to chinese fruit but everything changed now sweet it isn't uncommon for such a small peaceful protest you have 200 plus police to search a dozen office by cast this movie didn't you know you may never see

psychiatric treatment in france or paris correspondent gets on to that is among the stories with me kevin irwin after this break. it's seemed wrong. to me. to shape out just because the educated and engaged with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. you can't be both with yeah you like. u.s. navy officials say the 17 sailors and 4 civilians and suffered minor injuries after a fire in an explosion on board an amphibious assault ship is docked in san diego the blaze broke out on sunday morning while it was undergoing maintenance all crew on the vessel have been accounted for it's not known what caused the fire although reports suggest it began on the well deck that's in the ship's underbelly. some of the news the romanian government's moves to enforce quarantine for people infected with kobe has met with the hundreds strong protest in the capital bucharest the constitutional court ruled last month and the quarantine measures were a violation of individual liberties which then saw thousands of potential carries a living with strict confinement

good morning from russia this morning the 13th of july my name is kevin irwin here with the latest from the r.t. international world news center here this out and 1st in a chilling echo of the george floyd killing which led to resurgent black lives matter riots new videos emerged showing another officer restraining a man on the ground by leaning on his neck the police department says it's because the man was behaving erratically it happened in the state of pennsylvania we're investigating now underway there are fresh protests after disturbing video of the arrest and spread rapidly online. when we were little we don't matter broke. the law he's announcing his new. tempers flared elsewhere at the weekend to his black lives matter protest has confronted a march in support of the new york police department who call themselves the blue lives massive movement offices use tasers and made several arrests i was who was was was was was was was. was was was pretty nasty there was in that well the man had banned large scale public events in new york for the next 3 months citing the high risk of spr

let's bring in irwin called here hear he's currently with bard college in berlin and he analyzes political affairs for us good to see you and republicans have supported trump on many things but delaying the election is that a bridge too far. that would be such an outrageous attempt to go around the letter of the constitution that there are easier ways to suppress voters . and sort of trusting the local parties to close down polling stations are the sorts of things that are being done and attempted so that i think it was simply it was too obvious and also a clumsy it was just a clumsy sort of remark by trump quite often he speaks before he or his staff thinks and that's why you have to bring these things back as soon as possible to do even less damage during such remarks causes or when trump has repeatedly suggested that mail in ballots are vulnerable to fraud and threaten the legitimacy of the upcoming election what do you make of that argument. it's not a good faith argument that. there's been years decades of experience with absentee voting clearly we are in unusual times and increase in

coexistence and a symbol of secular turkey and what we see now is another step another attack 'd by mr irwin on the secular heritage of turkey he's been attacking the laws on treat the sins 3 or 4 years now he's been taking every major heritage that the most effort to model has given to his country as a founding father of the turkish republic and now another symbol of. the fight to mars heritage your sophia is about to be turned convert that into a mosque this is all in line with your logical struggle by mr odo on an arc of party to turn turkey into a muslim islamist country that's clear it turned out this is such a controversial issue what's your view is it a secular attack or is it simply answering the call of the turkish people. it is actually the certainly a legal issue if you look at the history because this is a stumble conquered by swart and 14 if you have to tree and it became. most some other churches as well 567 years it was a church now in our took time they have changed into a museum because of design of the time and also to show the ocean of a movement through to the restaurant

irwin redlener, director of the national center for disaster preparedness at columbia university, andyamiche, who gets to pose a lot of these questions to the president herself, has agreed to stick around. yamiche, i've got to start with you and what is just bizarrebizarre-o world. and you're not someone who fell for the idea that the white house had successfully carried out some kind of conversion as to who the president is or what the president does, but there were people who noted that he seemed to stay on script for a few minutes last week at those now-revived coronavirus briefings. but he's back to touting dangerous disinformation about a drug that has been warned to be dangerous, and seeming to be rowing against the work that dr. fauci is trying to do. >> that's right. and i think, i continue to think about the expert who said, if you mix science with politics, what you get the politics. and president trump has been really, really eager to try to put the coronavirus in the rearview mirror. at one point, he was reading off of notes that said, yes, it's going to get worse before i

in istanbul with more on what mr irwin was saying. he and knowledge that on july 24. will open its doors for the 1st worship 1st prayer for the most thems in turkey he also announced that in the status is changed from museum to most but it is going to be open for everyone and the fear for entrance the ticket fee is lifted so that whoever wants to visit inside. they are free they will be free to go inside visit or if they want to worship they can do their prayers like it is an blue mosque mosque in the same area just across iowa sophia and a couple of days ago to accuse a presidential spokesperson the prime cullen actually said that it is the same with the notre dame cathedral in paris staying with that story john psaropoulos since the latest on the greek government's reaction about. the official reaction so far has come from the greek culture minister. who is calling it a bare faced challenge to the entire civilized world which recognizes the unique value and universal nature of the monument and she went further she said that it's clear from this decision by the turki

irwin and theodore of new york were 87 and 88 respectively. was an engineer who worked on nuclear submarines, she a loving mother with an enormous heart. they were married for 64 years before dying within a week of each other. may they rest in peace, and may their memories be a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." you can follow me on twitter and instagram. you can tweet the show. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. ♪ >>> outfront next, u.s. closing in on 3 million cases, the virus far from under control as the president in a new interview blames dr. anthony fauci. plus trump's niece's book. she accusing the president of paying a friend to take the s.a.t.'s, his own sister calls him a clown with no principles. and richard quest on the symptoms he's still experiencing nearly 3 months after he had coronavirus. let's go outfront. >>> and good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, spiraling out of control, the nation on the cusp of 3 million coronavirus cases. the president refusing to tak

all right and it's just like what happened on the original croc hunter's documentaries with steve irwin which it spilt watch this one that killed by >>now this is a part and coppet part of just m. >>and be aggressive it's their only missing amazing why is it when it is amazing how unlike how a like the 2 of them are as well just keep going just ignore it just keep just right just keep going keep must go. oh my gosh it is amazing just like the 2 of them are can we go look at this. i mean he literally seen this because the sun posted the exact picture kind of a reply. closing creation of his dad, same crocodile, 15 years or allow and they both at him. they both got snake but the bill that they're all in the family right you got be she you know conservation wildlife stuff. they all work still at the zoo. >>and yet this tv media empire going along with it right now it's really it's like you go on the internet you look at the old pictures of the kids post them all the time. >>with their dad when they were little babies with koalas you know all these wild animals, it's sweet but it's also so

irwin redlener, the director of columbia university's national center for disaster preparedness alwaysbetween younger children and older children, there seems to be quite a line there between 10 and 19 and anything younger than 10 i see you trying to fix your camera you look good, sir >> thank you all right. >> is there a scenario where it's safer for us to send younger kids back to school and keep the older kids home is that a workable option? >> well, i don't think so. especially if we're talking about staggered classes or some other kind of weird arrangement, a week on, a week off, two days in school, three days remotely, et cetera. this is probably the most complicated decision we have had to make. and it's a national question about how we're going to open schools safely ideally, obviously, we want everyone child in school on a regular schedule, and can we do that safely? there's probably a way, but we would have to double the number of classrooms in the united states, in a place like new york city, that's no easy task. anything short of that means for working parents, it's almost

all right and it's just like what happened on the original croc hunter's documentaries with steve irwinspilt watch this one that killed by >>now this is a part in combat part of just >>and be aggressive it's their only missing amazing why is it when it is amazing how unlike how a like the 2 of them are as well just keep going just ignore it just keep just right just keep going keep must go. oh my gosh it is amazing just like the 2 of them are can we go look at this. i mean he literally seen this because the sun posted the exact picture kind of a reply. closing creation of his dad, same crocodile, 15 years or allow and they both at him. they both got snake but people that they're all in the family right you got be she you know conservation wildlife stuff. they all work still at the zoo. >>and yet this tv media empire going along with it right now it's really it's like you go on the internet you look at the old pictures the kids post them all the time. >>with their dad when they were little babies with koalas in all these wild animals, it's sweet but it's also so sad, i know dad, i know,

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i actually spoke with irwin just the night before he called me to talk about his op-ed, which is a brilliant op-ed in "the daily beast" where he in discussion with several other public health experts and epidemiologists are predicting up to 800,000 deaths in the next five months. the good news, ali, is this can be prevented. we can actually control this. this whole pandemic in large part is really dictated by us. yes, it is the virus that is having its way with us because we as humans are creating an environment for it to thrive. right? we're congregating, in close contact. we're not wearing masks. again, i don't leave my home without wearing a mask. i mean, we're asking for really simple measures, ali. wearing a mask. keeping the physical distance. we're not asking people to go to a hospital or undergo open heart surgery and donate -- we're just not doing that. simple, noninvasive procedures that are really life saving. it is just not happening, ali. >> it is remarkable. these deaths don't need to be happening the way they are. thanks to both of you dr. lipi roy and jennifer rubin with "the

this creativity and great minds so we're hopeful that we can start to create a play book, as julie irwinand agreed to be julie number two because you're both julie number one in my book. how do you make sure you avoid some of the pitfalls that we've seen happen in the past? >> one thing we're doing is being really thoughtful about the ownership group we put together. we've brought in leaders from a number of different industries that can provide insight into how do we build the operation of the team, market it and drive attention and awareness to make sure this makes money. this isn't a charity. it's a really important role for us but we want to show that women's professional athletics can actually make money. as it relates to the player, we are being really thoughtful and innovative in how we want to value them for the effort they put on the field. maybe there's a way to pay them above and beyond just their compensation. i think you'll see a lot of interesting things come out of the angel city team. >> hopefully you guys will both come back when it is the right time. julie and julie, th

and gus silverman is a human rights solicitor for irwin mitchell, representing the family.s she like? she always had difficulty speaking in front of other people but she did live a well—rounded life and she did everything she wanted to do. she would describe herself as a bit of an nerd but she loved baking, cooking and she loved playing the piano, rock climbing. really, she did everything we wanted her to do. how did her mental health deteriorate in the last few months of her life? natasha suffered from social anxiety and she coped quite well at school, partly because she was able to avoid situations. social anxiety, it is a fear of social or performance situations which is out of proportion to the actual threat. as much as somebody who has agoraphobia would be scared of spiders, she would have been scared of social situations, particularly a fear of being judged by other people. one of the things i think with social anxiety, people don't go for health because that would mean they were being judged. so that is something that is very difficult. we weren't really aware of nat

joining us is craig irwin, senior research analyst at roth capital.and a $350 price target on that company our own phil lebeau is back after delivering those numbers to the audience just moments ago. craig, you know, you have been skeptical, maybe even a pessimist, you look at these numbers, what do you think >> you know, i think these are great numbers. this is why people call tesla a great company. i mean, they are executing impeccably and you know, that's been my story consistently you'll remember i just see the stock as over valued >> and so to the degree that they're hitting on all cylinders and you think the stock is over valued, what would be the change in psychology or what would be the pivot point, inflection point that you think would change the multiple rating that investors would assign to this company? >> so today we have large cap growth managers buying this, looking at it as -- for twitter and amazon and large cap tech stocks where, you know, it's kind of a winner takes all market for a number of those companies. automotive is a very di

griff: robert irwin taking a python bite to the face after filming his tv show. fun memories. that is a comment you only get in the irwin family. pete: only fun memories. jed. jedediah: i don't know if you heard me shout and scream, if you did not you certainly missed something. hopefully rick reichmuth has never taken a python bite to the face. hopefully you're okay out there. rick: all the times you have snakes on the show. i love the snakes. pete: i social distance from them, yes. rick: yes you do. you and jed definitely do. we have incredible heat building across parts of the south. you see the oranges? those are temps in the 80s already early this morning in the early hours. i bring that up in the nighttime, if you look for temperatures to cool down, things get exhausting. it starts to add on, the atmosphere is incredibly hot. we have a few areas of storms. a little bit of rain across parts of the northeast. another batch of rain across parts of ohio valley heading into kentucky. incredible storms overnight cutting across parts of oklahoma and into texas. th

irwin redliner from columbia university as well as "new york times" reporter peter baker.tor, i have this flashback to before everything was shut down and you were at the table with me at 30 rock sounding the alarms and laying out the worst-case scenario. it's haunting to see it come to pass. >> nicolle, if you add to that the president's statements like he's coming from some alternative universe, not even recognizing the seriousness and taking credit for improvements that don't exist, you remember just a few days ago dr. fauci predicted we would get to 100,000 cases a day, which is 1 million cases every ten days, we're in very serious trouble, nicolle. we have leadership focussed on facts that don't exist, the politic political campaign. it's a disconnection from reality that's extremely worrisome, nicolle. >> peter baker, the ugly truth is that donald trump screwing this up so cat catastrophically, what is the why? >> they hoped to get the economy going so that by the fall the president could make the argument i built the economy once, i'll do it again. what they didn't