are the guest is amy and mark historian at the center for asian studies at northern illinois universityashington dc, paul, emr campaign leader and global witness. big welcome to you all. thank you for joining us. the west is roundly condemned the good -- the coup. u.s. president biden is threatening to impose sanctions. how much leverage the u.s. really have? >> this is only day two of the coup. the leverage is the highest at the very beginning. i would say that the international powers, stay hard at the beginning, because the situation is very confusing. the military is confused and scared. that is why they have to convince the international that they are acting according to the constitution, that they will hand over the power in one year. but history again and again shows us that they never honor their word. i think at the very beginning, deliver it -- the leverage is the highest. kim: what is your take? do you think biden has leverage right now? his first big international challenge, first big foreign policy challenge. how do you think he is likely to respond? given all of joe biden'

queen mary university of london and author of me and mars we're going to genocide in the cab illinois therapy associate professor at the department of world languages and cultures at northern illinois university a warm welcome to you all debbie let me start with you today now that curan has cut ties with m e h l that's the conglomerate with ties to me and mars military do we expect that more companies or at least more foreign companies are going to be doing the same. i think any company that so understanding its obligations for human rights due diligence should cut its ties with any military owned companies the military these military companies are notorious for some of the worst human rights violations including wide scale then grabbing in the country and it's time that the retiree's didn't make human rights violations a profitable business running could you tell us a little bit more about me and more economic cold ings public company this is this conglomerate with ties to me and more is military what do we know about its ties to the military and also its ownership structure. well ties the military are incredibly close the military has. worked for 6 decades to pilfer mone

history so as university of london and author of a history of modern burma in illinois is therapy tom i mean man historian and associate of professor at center for asian studies at northern illinois university in washington d c paul dano it's me and mark campaign leader and global witness with welcome to you all thanks for joining us here on inside story about to begin with you if i can the west is roundly. condemned the coup u.s. president biden is threatening to impose sanctions but how much leverage does the u.s. really have when it comes to be in ma and to the generals who are now in power. this is the only day 2 off the coup so the leverage as the highest at the very beginning and so i want to say that you know the international. powers stay have allowed at the very beginning because the situation is very confused and the military all the time and all it's also staged a coach is confused and discuss it so that's why they have to convince the international that they are acting according to the constitutions and they were hand over the power in one year but history again and again show asked that they never are honored now what's so i think at the very beginning tonig

this country, first parkland which happened three years ago and also the mass shooting at northern illinois universityive people were killed, 13 years ago and goes to show it's been 25 years and we have yet to have congressional action on an issue that kills over 100 americans a day, 25 mass shootings every day in this day and we are waiting for the right president, the right congress to act and we finally have that. it's been a long wait and we've done so much work and made progress in state houses an border rooms. we have a trick feck ta of gun sense president and house and i was heartened to hear the president say this was an issue important to him and there would be action. >> how are we doing dealing with gun violence? there was a shooting at a clinic in minnesota that took the lives of five people, a suspect charged with murder in that. are we making any progress at call? >> first i want to say covid is certainly exacerbaing the gun violence across the board. gun homicides, suicides, unintentional shootings, domestic gun violence, a steady increase because of that exacerbation. at the same time

also, there was the mass shooting at northern illinois university where five people were killed 13 yearso show that it's been 25 years now. and we have yet to have congressional action on an issue that kills over 100 americans a day. that's about 25 mass shootings every day in this country. and we are waiting for the right president, the right congress to act, and we finally have that, right? it's been a long wait. and we have done so much work and made such progress in state houses and board rooms, but now we have a trifecta. and i was very heartened today to hear the president say that this was an issue that is important to him and that there would be action. >> how are we doing right now in this country in terms of dealing with gun violence? has anything gotten better? i know this week there was a shooting at a clinic in minnesota that took the lives of five people. a suspect has been charged with murder in that. are we making any progress at all? >> well, first i want to say that covid is certainly exacerbating the gun violence crisis in this country across the board. gun homicide, g

so national junior officers and civilian enlisted could study at rotc programs such as northern illinois university and numerous places where there are wonderful rotc programs f.confirmed, would you commit to exploring creative ideas such as these that could be implemented quickly and relatively cheaply to build stronger military ties with southeast asian nations in the near term? >> yes, senator, i would commit to doing so. >> the thank you. i bet you can guess what my next topic is, logistics, logistics, logistics. what's your assessment of the shortfalls at u.s. command and logistics enterprise? >> senator, logistics is the lifeblood and contested logist six a key operational set for the u.s. military today in going forward. cyber security is probably at the forefront of that challenge set, and that's obviously both for the military assets but also the significant civilian assets upon which we rely for our logistics. i think behind that would be the survivability of our logistics chain and our fuel consumption and ensuring that we can have a light footprint regard to logistics, maybe even levera