of business at san jose state university. so let's talk about this. we have made progress. statistics show that but we've got a ways to go. we're still of the numbers. i saw 82 centse dollar. absolutely we still have a very long way to go in terms of getting charity, you know, gender clarity, and this is not just in the united states. it's all over the world, you know, the problem is perception, too. i mean, do you think at least we're in a place where people say yes, they should get paid equal, li or are we still trying to get people to agree with that concept? you know, i think there are. there are both societal barriers. i think there are structural barriers. um, there are some historic pathways. you know that occupations that women have gravitated to that also contribute to some of the issues. you know when we look at across the board across different industries, and i think that you know, we have to make progress and on all those fronts. but yes, i do think that we do need to change some attitudes. in addition to addressing some of those structural barriers and i we hope that i asked for time i asked because you know, we just recently had the news about the n