we can negotiate with one different republican senator, or two different republican senators but the senators, have no interest in doing anything that the people desperately need or want. these jobs and family proposal from the president are wisely popular across democrats, independents and democrats just like the american rescue plan was. if we want to use history as an example, there was not a single republican vote for the rescue plan, there is not a single republican vote, there weren't enough republican votes for the january six commission. this is a party that is not interested in delivering for the people, so we should just move ahead of right now, get the budget resolutions going and do a budget reconciliation bill, big, bold and fast. >> but do you say to americans watching who say that they may have supported president biden democrats who fear like they got democrats elected to the white house to control the house, to control the senate and it does feel like treading water right now, it does feel like stop just stopped after the covid relief bill. what do you say to people w

the republican senate did leave him dangling for nearly three years. and that could have been the end of it. but president biden remembered he had been a good nominee. they didn't let the republicans have the last word in terms of the way they treated him. biden renominated him and they got him through. so there. late is better than never. they didn't forget him. and that's something. and that, of course, that same kind of small j justice was at work, of course, when president biden picked his attorney general, right? president obama, as you know, had nominated a judge named merrick garland to be a supreme court justice after antonin scalia died while he was still on the bench. merrick garland was someone who had been confirmed overwhelmingly and with zero controversy to his previous judgeship. he was somebody so centrist, so moderate, so objectionable and they named him by name that they would love to vote for even if he was voted on by a democratic president. but when president obama did nominate him, republicans, under mitch mcconnell, they refused t

what about republican senators tells you that's how they're likely to behave these days? the republicans, i will say, they do get a big fairly concrete win here, right, out of these talks that they've been engaged in with the white house. they won themselves three weeks, at least, of the democrats chatting with them pointlessly while the republicans stretched it out as long as possible running out the clock while never intending to give them any votes at all. think of the judges that could have been nominated and confirmed during these points-long talks. think of the budget reconciliation using just 50 votes instead of stringing this thing out wasting time while republican senators only pretend to seriously consider the matter. the democrats are only going to control the house and the senate and the white house for so much time, every day wasted while they're not passing things and confirming people is a win for the republicans. every day the republicans can get the democrats to not do something that is a win for republicans, and it's an inexplicable waste for the democrat

for writing a voting rights bill that no republican senator could support. senator manchin put his theory to the test though. he wrote his own version of the voting rights bill, showing his concept of the kind of bill he felt republicans rightfully should support and should be expected to support on voting rights. senator manchin drew up his own proposal, what he thought should get republican votes. the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell, responded by calling the pro posed bill, quote, rotten. and then today republican senators, all 50 republican senators, voted to not even consider what joe manchin put forward. so, does this change senator manchin's mind about any of this? does it shift his idea that no voting rights bill should pass if it doesn't have republican votes? now that he sees the way that republicans are approaching this issue in terms of deciding what they're going to vote for, what they're going to vote to debate, what they're going to vote to hear, does this change his mind about whether or not a voting rights bill

and then today, republican senators all 50 republican senators voted to not even consider what joe manchinput forward. so, does this change senator manchin's position about any of this? does it shift his idea that no voting rights bill should pass if it doesn't have republican votes? now that he sees the way that republicans are approaching this issue in terms of whether voting to debate, what they're voting to adhere to, does it change his mind about whether or not a voting rights bill must have republican votes if it is going to be a legitimate approach to this issue the deserves his attention? we don't know. senators leave at the end of this week to go home for a two-week along july 4th recess. what's senators here from their constituents when they are at home, about the importance of voting rights, that may be determinative here about whether this is now over whether there might be a next step. at home in phoenix and arizona today, this was seen at the offices of democratic senator kirsten cinema. she is the other conservative democrat who's been a real holdout on this issue. also insi

every single senate republican just voted against starting debates on legislation to protect americans voting rights. once again the senate republican minority has launched a partisan blockade of a pressing issue here in the united states senate. an issue no less fundamental than the right to vote. could we have order, madam president. >> the. senate will be in order. i laid out the facts for weeks. republicans, state legislators across the country are engaged in the sweeping voter suppression in 80 years. capitalizingli on and capitalizd by donald trump's big why these state governments are making it harder for younger, poor, urban and nonwhite americans to vote. earlier today, the republican leader told reporters that, quote, regardless of what may be happening in some states, there is no rationale for federal intervention. thetl republican leader stated that no matter what the states do to undermine our democracy, voter suppression laws, partisan takeovers the senate should not act. my colleagues if senators 60 years ago held that the federal government should never intervene to pro

there were five republican senators at that announcement today. you will recall that the magic number of republican senators that democrats need to join them to defeat a filibuster of any bill is not five. it's ten. are there another five republican senators who weren't there today who will vote for this infrastructure bill? maybe. but even if there are another five of them, even if there are ten republicans, that math still only works if all 50 democratic senators vote for it, and there are plenty of democratic senators who have made it clear that they think this scaled down compromise mini infrastructure bill is totally inadequate and not something they're interested in working on. so that's one thing. the easy math question here. but to my eye, the really notable thing today, and i do actually think it's an encouraging sign, the notable thing today that i saw is that there's a remarkable group of people who do all now seem to be on the same side in terms of how this moves forward, and i'm not talking about those five republican senators who wer

put another way, all 50 republican senators voted no. he senate who wants to even allow a debate on this topic. an angry majority leader spoke moments after the vote was announced. >> senate republicans have signed their names in the ledger of history. alongside donald trump, the big lie, and voter suppression. today, every single democratic senator stood together in the fight to protect the right to vote in america. the republican leader uses the language and the logic of the

today republican senator mitt romney, one of the senators negotiating with the white house, said this. >> so, you guy versus a deal. >> so, republicans and democrats have come together along with the white house, and we've agreed on a framework. and we're going to be heading to the white house tomorrow. >> so, today house speaker nancy pelosi and senate majority leader schumer met with white house officials to discuss the infrastructure proposal and that separate infrastructure package that will include, among other things, tax increases rejected by the republican negotiators. that bill is designed to be passed with democratic votes only through the budget reconciliation process that avoids the 60-vote threshold in the senate. and this is what senator schumer said about that. >> discussions about infrastructure are progressing along two tracks. the first is bipartisan and the second incorporating elements of the president's american jobs and families plan. the second track is something we must support even if it doesn't get any republican support. >> nbc news reports bipartisan congre

there were five republican senators at that announcement today. ecall that the magical number of senators that the democrats need to join them to defeat any filibuster on any bill is not five, but ten. are there another five republican senators who are not there today who will vote for this trip club in this infrastructure bill, we? maybe. it may be even if there are five republicans, it's still only works if they are 50 with democratic senators who vote for it. and they have said that this downsized infrastructure bill it's downplayed and something they need to work on. this is one thing, the easy math question here. the notable thing here today, and i think it's an encouraging sign, the notable thing today that i saw is with there's a remarkable group of paper that all seem to be on the same side and i'm not talking about those five republican senators who are sitting that with joe biden. i'm talking about all the democrats. it's no secret that the democrats are divided on the utility and wisdom of this bipartisan bill that has been worked out wi

after republicans in the u.s. senate blocked the creation of a bipartisan expert independent commission to investigate the attack on the u.s. capitol on january 6th, the attack that sought to block the certification of the presidential election results, today house speaker nancy pelosi made good on her promise to make sure there is a thorough investigation into that attack anyway. she tonight revealed legislation that would create a select committee to investigate the january 6th attack. now, congress, of course, has tons of standing committees that take, you know, foreign affairs committee, the oversight committee, the judiciary committee. they have all sorts of standing committees that take on all kinds of investigations and inquiries all the time. a select committee is actually a rare bird. it means congress will create a new committee just for this purpose, just to do this investigation. it will be made up of members of congress, not outside experts, but it will have a dedicated staff that will work just on this inve

cowardly, they the republican senators did him a personal favor rather than honoring their patriotic duty, to protect and defend. for the past four weeks, there have been attempts from outside groups, from leaders across the country to persuade the senate to pass the commission. tomorrow will be four weeks since the commission failed in the senate. i asked, leading up to today, is there a chance for it to pass? we gave it so much time. not soon. not likely. maybe someday. in the meantime, i'm hopeful that could still happen at some point. however, this morning, with great solemnity and sadness, i am announcing the house will be establishing a select committee on the january 6 insurrection. again, january 6 was one of the darkest days in our nation's history. i said it now three times. it is imperative that we establish the truth of that day and ensure that an attack of that kind cannot happen, and that we root out the causes of it all. the select committee will investigate and report on the facts and the causes of the attack, and it will report recommendations for the prevention of a

>> jonathan, in many ways, the real republican leader on the side of the senate is donald trump and so what is donald trump going to do? what can he do in the coming weeks and months to pull as of tonight, when history was pulled to republicans off the bipartisan bill and it collapses. >> i don't think donald trump is going to be able to pull to republicans off this bill. this bill is negotiated over a long period of time. and the thing i want to point out, these people are friends. this came together because they all worked together on a regular basis. they have been, or they built a relationship. this isn't like ten people got in the room and decided to chalk it up over who would get white in what's spending bill. we get infrastructure, who would get water and highways. these are ten people who trust each other. i think if anything this list is going to grow and i understand the skepticism and lawrence you've been watching the senate for more years than i've ever been there. i would be skeptical to but i think there's a better chance if the system goes to 70 senators, and it goes to

including, 11 republican senators. how do we make sense of this? well, the republican party's ideology on core matters of governance has dissipated into incoherence. i mean, really, core questions about political economy, specifically, right? free enterprise and the market. are so detached from the actual-material interests of its base. those policies that they have been championing, forever, right? tax cuts for the rich. you're-on-your-own economics. they've become so unpopular. they have been surely, but slowly, walking away from it all, at least in rhetoric and messaging. because here's the thing. they -- they've lost the ability to rile the -- the base. the current base. the trump base. they have lost the ability to rile them up on those core issues, anymore. it doesn't work. the base doesn't care. i mean, compare that, right, to where we were 12 years ago. and the unrelenting backlash against the obama stimulus. which came, in response to the great recession. in 2009, the american recovery act, which was less than a trillion dollars, was passed

today republican senator mitt romney, one of the senators right negotiating with the white house said this. >> you guys have a deal? >> so republicans and democrats have come together, along the white house, and we've agreed a framework and we're gonna be heading to the white house tomorrow. >> so today, house speaker nancy pelosi and senate majority leader, chuck schumer, met with white house officials to discuss the bipartisan infrastructure proposal, and that separate package that will include, tax increases, rejected by the republican negotiators. that bill is designed to be passed with democratic votes only to the budget reconciliation process that avoids the 60 vote threshold in the senate. this is what's senator schumer said about that. >> discussions about infrastructure are progressing along two tracks. the first is bipartisan, and the second incorporates elements that the presidents americans jobs and family plan, the second truck is something we must support even if it doesn't get any republican support. >> nbc news reports bipartisan congressional negotiators trying to rea

not a single republican would vote to even start debate on the bill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell made it clear that there is basically nothing democrats can do to ever get any republican support on any part of that bill. certainly off on things like for instance changing the standards for partisan gerrymandering or even reinstating the parts of the voting rights act that john roberts supreme court gutted. let's keep in mind this is the same voting rights act which was last reauthorized and 2006 with a massive bipartisan majority in the house, and a unanimous vote in the senate. in fact, the person who got all from parkinson utters to vote for it was and majority whip mitch mcconnell. that same voting rights act now faces essentially implacable republican opposition. that's what i mean by radicalizing against democracy. we are watching this radicalization happen at the state level, of course, or republican-controlled governments are passing stricter voting laws, multiple states now trying to follow arizona's lead and longines audit of the 2020 elect

the republican senators on the negotiating team were quite upset and pressing the white house for some action. one of the people they talked to was the senator, releasing the statement that it was written in a carefully vague language. it was a first effort but not an incredibly successful effort to dissuade -- persuade republicans that the senator was still on board. her view was that there was not a big problem. she said, we still have work to do and this is a negotiation that takes compromise, and i think we will get there. i got the impression that the problem was much bigger. there was still pressure being applied to the white house. it arrived sometime after 4:00 yesterday afternoon. that has settled things down among negotiators, but we will have to see how this goes down more broadly, particularly with other democrats, who continue to have skepticism about negotiations with republicans. caller: good morning. how are you doing this beautiful sunday morning? host: we are great. caller: i want to say something. i want to thank c-span for being honest, open, and showing the wonderf

that the only thing standing between that and biden's desk is senate republicans. s opposed to if they didn't get all 50 members on board, then the story would be democrats can't even agree among themselves to get a piece of legislation. and it's much harder to make the case against republican. so the likely scenario on tuesday, if they keep joe manchin on board to bid at least begin debate, if this cooldown 50/50, then democrats have a decision to make. it will all be asked what their position is on the filibuster. everyone is gonna have to explain whether the sport withhold upholding the 60 vote threshold. it's going to be a very, very heavy. left to get all 50 democrats, especially those two on board with new king or significantly weakening the filibuster. to your earlier point, i want to make other, no -- i had a fascinating finding which asked people do they want congress to pass president biden's economic plans as is. or do they want them to cut it down for the sake of bipartisanship. overwhelmingly they said pass it. including about a fifth of republicans. >>

these are hard things for republicans, like redistricting. the senator of ohioans. no, even 57% of republicans want redistricting to be taken away from these partisan games we play. you and i make our livings from this. the gerrymandering has to stop. we're not even having fair medical elections anymore because keep winning. >> you want t circle the bernie sanders answer on stephen brier breyer. he wanted no part of that. >> said a lot without saying a lot. >> that's what i thought, too. it's weird. conversation, exchanges. i don't know what to do. as we go to break, i want to reyoind you that these season's ep associates of ""meet the press" reports" are available. our final episode is a really good one. it looks at whether the u.s. military is ready for the next war which could start either in spaces or cyber. >>> up next, there were >>> up next, there were celebrations across the count ♪ ♪ when technology is easier to use... ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪ struggling to mana

. >> i challenge republican senators, come to the floor defending these policies. >> america at a crossroads as a vote to protect the vote heads to the floor and republicans vowed to stop. them so, what are democrats and joe biden willing to do about it? >> that fight does not stop tomorrow. this will be a fight of his presidency. >> then six months after -- why so many americans still believe the big lie. plus how america is on the verge of what could be the most transformational social policy experiment in history. >> rescue plan will lift half of america's children out of poverty. >> and why breakthrough alzheimer's drug could change american health care forever. when all in starts right now. good evening from new york i'm chris hayes. tomorrow, for the second time in less than months, senate democrats are gonna get together at the floor of the senate, we all watched and they're gonna run into a brick wall made of mitch mcconnell and modern republican parties filibuster. democrats have this huge voting rights bill called for the people act which many democrats view as an existential impor

mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, has pledged that zero republican senators will r manchin has effectively blamed democrats for that, implying that they're to blame for republicans all saying no to it. they're to blame for crafting their voting rights bill in such a way that no republicans felt like they could get behind it. interesting development, though, on this. yesterday, rather than just continuing to say that, blaming his colleagues, senator manchin decided he would try to prove it. he decided to sort of show his work on his theory. he wrote up a list of what he thought should go in a voting rights bill that he thought should get both democratic and republican support. it's a very different set of proposals than what democrats have put in their bill. has a bunch of stuff that republicans want and.dids really don't. but he's doing this to show that there's a way that he understands to write a voting bill that republicans will vote for. earlier this week, senator manchin tried to prove the point. he met with eight senators from the republican side of the aisle

put another way, all 50 republican senators voted no. well states are back home working hard to suppress the vote or certain votes should we say, there's not a republican in the senate who wants to even allow a debate on this topic. an angry majority leader spoke moments after the vote was announced. >> senate republicans have signed their names in the ledger of history. alongside donald trump, the big lie, and voter suppression. today, every single democratic senator stood together in the fight to protect the right to vote in america. the republican leader uses the language and the logic of the southern senators in the sixties who defended states rights. this vote, i'm ashamed to say, is further evidence that voter suppression has become part of the official platform of the republican party. >> in an unusual move, vice president harris presided over the senate during tonight's vote afterward chief vowed democrats will continue pushing for federal voting rights legislation. >> when we're talking about the right to vote, it is not a republ

if you're able to deliver on his promises, sources safari, al jazeera, to us republican senators, a block to sweeping voting rights bill put forward by the democrats, 3 fifths of the senators, duly chosen, and sworn not having voted in the affirmative. the motion is not agreed to democrat, so show to the 60 votes required to launch a debate on the legislation. they argued. the election reform package contains measures to counteract laws, passed and republican held states which restrict voting access to my kind of joint live. now from washington, dc mike, so senate republicans of stones, they opposed to this build so no surprises than it failed at the 1st totaling congress. indeed, yes, this vote was to put the bill for debate. tenant failed, as you say at that very 1st hurdle, it was a part of them vote completely on party lines. republicans had been adamant they would oppose this bill to a person. democrats were adamant that they would favorite to a person whether there had been some debate earlier in the day. one senator holding on put some changes, but he eventually agreed to join the

how do you win over republican senators and how do you win over voters? oters talking about republicans efforts to steal the election and talking about republicans efforts at local offices to suppress the vote. it does work with voters. giving over publican senators on board obviously that's not going to work. >> but is the point that you're getting to tim convincing voters doesn't matter anymore. that there is no pressure to be put on the senators. >> i think it doesn't matter that much as far as getting senators because i don't think the votes are there. i think it matters very much as far as 2022 is concerned and whether or not an insurrection is like kevin mccarthy is the speaker of the house the democrats to do everything possible to focus on the popular stuff as part of safeguarding democracy and not worry is much about all the things that some of the interest groups might have wished they could've had. >> you're not in their david. >> absolutely. i mean i think that 2022 is -- we can even say it's more important in 2020 because what's happened after

these are hard things for republicans, like redistricting. the senatorthis takes away the rights of ohioans. no, even 57% of republicans want redistricting to be taken away from these partisan games we play. you and i make our livings from this. the gerrymandering has to stop. we're not even having fair medical elections anymore because incumbents keep winning. >> you want to circle the bernie sanders non-answer on stephen breyer. he wanted no part of that. >> that was a short and distinct answer. >> said a lot without saying a lot. >> that's what i thought too. it's weird. conversation, exchanges. i don't know what to do. >>> as we go to break, i want to remind you that this season's episodes of "meet the press" reports are available. our final episode is a really good one. it looks at whether the u.s. military is ready for the next war which could start either in spaces or cyber. >>> up next, there were celebrations across the country marking juneteenth. it's now a federal holiday. when we come back, how the belated recognition may tell us as much abou

what's your message to the republican senators? >> if you go home and talk to constituents who are stuck in traffic for 1 1/2 hours getting to work and 1 1/2 hours getting home, three hour days they can't spend with their families, they want a bridge coming to a town near them. my wife says roads and bridges are a woman's problem if you will. oftentimes it's a women who besides commuting to work are taking children to skoal and doing the shopping. the more time she spends on the road, the less time she does things of higher value. if you speak to her, she's going say this is a good bill. lastly, if you speak to communities that have been flooded, that are in danger, you spoke of the hurricane, my coastline of louisiana has been melting away, if you speak to those communities, they really like the resiliency piece. if you put your finger up in the air, you're going to feel a breeze in favor of this bill. >> senator mitch mcconnell, we know if he doesn't like something, he can probably convince 40 republicans to vote no. how much are

republican senators did him a personal favor rather than on it their patriotic duty to protect and defend. for the past four weeks there had been attempts from outside groups from leaders across the country to persuade the senate to pass the commission. tomorrow will be four weeks since the commission failed in the senate. i asked leading up to today is their intent for it to pass? we gave it so much time. maybe someday. in the meantime i'm hopeful that could still happen at some point however this morning with great solemnity and sadness i'm announcing that the house will be establishing a select committee on the january 6 insurrection. again the january 6 was one of the darkest days in our nations history. it is impaired and that we establish a -- and ensure that an attack of that kind does not happen and root out the causes of it all. the committee will investigate and report on the facts and the causes and the cabinet will report recommendations for the prevention of any future attacks. >> remind you a lot of people are referencing the 9/11 commission and 9/11 signed into law by the p

. >> you have had as many as 11 republican senators in the bipartisan negotiations. if you have 11, that brings you to 61. it's literally exactly one more than you need to pass in the senate. but is there any indication that those 11 could attract more republicans to this bill? >> i would hope it does. and i think that it has the possibility to do that xtd because at the end of the day it invest in the things that people care about. broadband. rail. transit. all of those things that republicans and democrats support. this bill is wildly popular. this is not a hard vote. this is actually an easy vote just like the rescue plan because the american public supports it. so my hope would be that it passes with overwhelming bipartisan support. >> senators bridgeman thank you very much for joining us on this important night. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. and joining our discussion now jonathan cott served as communications director and senior advisor to joe manchin for seven years and also nbc news and analyst you, he's the executive editor of the recou

i had to listen to the arguments made by republican senators, including that putting some basic federal minimum standards in place so that people can vote safely how they choose, whether it is vote by mail or voting early. they opposed that and claimed it would create chaos. chaos is people standing in the rain in milwaukee waiting to vote or chaos is a voting drop off box in the middle of harris county texas with over 5 million people. chaos is what you saw in georgia when the former president, or as you call him the man from mar-a-lago. when the former president went after election officials and put them at personal risk. that is chaos. that is why you see growing

the same denial rights and protections is for congress to act despite a support mississippi republican senator roger wicker says congress doesn't have enough time to pass the right standard before the first tee and laws begin taking effect.

mccobble said he believed all 50 republicans would oppose senator manchin's bill. s are making the mistake of trying to recapitulate to republicans over an over an then nothing materializes. >> right. yeah. we at least want to be able to check it off the list. they talked to some republicans and gave it a good faith effort to try to get republican support but they never do. they never get the support they try so hard to get. this is a bad approach, not only because it's followly to convince republicans, it's a huge time waster as well. and time is one of the most powerful tools that the republicans have right now in this tri effecta. wasting time is one of the best things they can do to block joe biden's agenda from being enacted into law. it's really critically important that democrats stop fall for it because we don't have much time. running up on some significant deadlines here. snups data will be released in august. states will start drawing congressional maps. they need to be finalized by february of 2022 and the mid terms are right after that. we're reaching t

senate majority leader said that all 50 republicans would oppose senator mentioned slim down electionomise. do democrats keep falling for the okey dokey? do you think democrats are making the mistake to capitulate to republicans over and over and then nothing materializes? >> right, yeah. that least want to be able to check it off the list that they talked to some republicans and they gave it a good faith effort to get some republican support, but they never do, they never get the republican support that they try so hard to get. this is a very bad approach not just because it is a -- to let people participate and democracy. it is a huge time waste as well. time is one of the most powerful tools that the republicans have in this trifecta. wasting time is one of the best things they can do to block joe biden's agenda from being enacted into law. it is really critically important that democrats stop falling for it, because we don't have much time. we're running up on some significant deadlines here since the state is going to be released, states are going to start drawing congressional m

and i'll rights and protections is for congress to act despite a support mississippi republican senator roger wicker says congress doesn't have enough time to pass the right standard before the first tee and laws begin taking effect. >> these issues deserve deep

take a look at republican senator lindsey graham, here he is. >> the biden five-point plan will not address the rise in murder and vicious assaults in this country. we have a lack of prosecution and we've declared war on the police and that is backfiring on those who have done it. chris: dozen tore graham have a point -- does senator graham have a point there? >> absolutely not. in fact, senator graham doesn't have a clue. let's talk about who defunded the police. when we were in congress trying to pass a rescue plan -- not the rescue plan, but emergency relief plan for cities that were cash strapped and laying off police and firefighters it was the republicans who objected to it. they didn't get funding until the american rescue plan which our plan allows state and local governments to replenish their police departments and do other things that are needed. republicans are good at staying on talking points on who said defund the police, but the truth is they defunded the police. we funded crime intervention and

case in point, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell dismissing senator manchin's efforts to gainion. >> i've taken a look at all these new state laws, and none of them are designed to suppress the vote. there's no rational basis for the federal government trying to take over all of american elections in what is an extraordinarily dubious constitutionality would remove redistricting from state legislatures and hand it over to computers. equally unacceptable, totally inappropriate. all republicans, i think, will oppose that. >> senate democrats have to decide is it worth seeking bipartisan compromises with a party that has no intention of negotiating in good faith? or is it better to go it alone and pass legislation that is supported by the majority of americans? joining us now sahill kapur. there are initiatives that the biden administration is trying to move forward with. in fact, i just want to put some on the screen. the covid relief bill, which is very popular. 60% of americans support that. infrastructure, 68% of americans support that. the child care plan, which we're going

nine more republicans would have to support the john lewis voting rights act for it to pass the senateitch mcconnell announced his opposition to that bill which means there is virtually no chance of getting those nine republican votes from the john lewis bill. republican senator susan collins does not support the john lewis voting rights bill even though senator joe manchin took the extraordinary step for a democrat of endorsing susan collins in her reelection campaign last year. what has joe manchin gotten for that? here's what senator manchin said today about his meeting with the civil rights. >> did they change your mind? >> what we had was a great informative it was a very good conversation and it's the start of a good relationship. it really was. >> leading off our discussion tonight, derek johnson president and ceo of the naacp and mark mariano from the ceo of the national urban league. president johnson, i shall address you as president. let me begin with you. what did you discuss in this meeting with joe manchin today? >> well, our goal was to establish a relationship and open

joining me now is a former defense secretary under president obama and a former republican senator fromto the show. let me start with this. the guy who replaced you, i think, voted for the commission, ben sasse, but the other senator, she did not. what would you your case to her? >> well, chuck, thanks for having me. i wrote an op-ed in the "herald" last week about this issue. i know that two of nebraska's three republican house members voted for the commission, and i'm very glad that senator sasse did as well. why senator fisher did not vote for it, you would have to ask her specifically. but what's happened here and you look at the vote, i think in the senate it's pretty clear. six republican senators voted for an independent commission, a fair, free, independent commission. equal number of republicans, democrats, model on the warren commission. it's the right thing to do. what we've seen, chuck, it isn't just the vote on the commission last week. we've seen a breakdown in trust and confidence in our institutions in this country over the last few years in our leaders. we've segmented