i want a cross party to find a solution. it i cross party to find a solution.e right that the government is treating _ cannot be right that the government is treating gurkha veterans this way, _ is treating gurkha veterans this way, that— is treating gurkha veterans this way, that they are resorting to going — way, that they are resorting to going on— way, that they are resorting to going on hunger strike. parliamentarians need to step up and take action _ parliamentarians need to step up and take action. ben wallace needs to look at _ take action. ben wallace needs to look at of— take action. ben wallace needs to look at of his window, walk the ten minutes— look at of his window, walk the ten minutes to — look at of his window, walk the ten minutes to this protest and take action — minutes to this protest and take action at— minutes to this protest and take action. �* , ,, ., action. a spokesperson for the ministry of _ action. a spokesperson for the ministry of defence _ action. a spokesperson for the ministry of defence said - action. a spokesperson for the

i have believed that this is a problem that crosses party lines. i've seen an interesting development down through the years. when i first suggested the danger of government control inherent in so many federal handouts, there were people who denied vehemently that any such thing could ever take place, and yet before too long the same people were saying what's wrong with government control. and in the recent days we've heard representatives in the higher echelons of government ask us, well, are you afraid of your own government? to tell you the truth, i am. and all of us should be. [ applause ] and i speak not in a partisan sense of an administration or individuals, i'm talking of the institution of government. wasn't this the admonition of the founding fathers, that government tends to grow to take on power until freedom eventually is lost. the fact is, and we can't escape it, only government is capable of tyranny. i realize this is a controversial subject, particularly as we approach an election year, but then if you didn't take up things that wer

in the commons, there were cross—party calls for more.mmitment of welcoming at least 35—40,000 afghan refugees in the uk. numbers matter less than need. we need to reject this artificial distinction between resettlement and asylum. today's debate revealed the depth of anger and anguish at what's happened. the words spoken here will make little difference to the immediate situation in afghanistan, but borisjohnson looks isolated as mps queued up to ask how a 20—year commitment unravelled so fast. no more so than those who had served in afghanistan, fighting in a campaign that cost the lives of a57 service men and women. like many veterans, this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger and grief and rage. the feeling of abandonment, of not just a country, but the sacrifice that my friends made. the house of commons, full for the first time in over a year, had rarely seemed so quiet. several things were striking about today's debate. first the sombre mood as mps observed what almost all regarded as a serious foreign pol

because the initial in was generally supported across the house and parliament, an cross party basis. i of this was unusual for me as a s and p politician at that time i was, i was given the security briefings and i can say for definite information being relied on for the topography of fast galveston was mapping done by the british forces. evelyn 1900 century. so the plan to miss the maps was still in the, in the ministry of defense. why wasn't the the wisdom retaining this well, this might not be the place to get into over the long term. this is a momentous moment because we are now running up to the 20th anniversary, next month is a 20th of last year. and i believe, and i little evan led us to speak and see to the iraq disaster to the afghanistan disaster to the unknown sort of time to actually maybe to bolivia, disaster. and i think what they, the mistake made was to see the a path on the twins as an act to wool launched by and undefined muslim islamic. and the may actually what it was was a very successful and a terrorist attack. and the mistake made by the bush administration and

and the cross party reports published on sunday, the public accounts committee said that the taxpayer will be exposed to quote, significant financial risk for decades to come with the estimated cost of the governments. but haven't percent of g d p a rate not seen since the early 1906. these and june alone, debt interest cost 8700000000 pounds. so i want to also call your attention in this article with a, b, b, c. authoritative official media aloud on air. so i want to show you that they show this u. k. public sector net debt, excluding public sector banks, which i assume are all the bags i got billed out. so here's when prize report started in 2009. the debt was just over 500000000000 pounds. now it's quadrupled to, to point 2 trillion pounds in that time that we've been covering this. but this is, you know, we're also covering in the series right now these 2 weeks the, the 50 years of fiance. so that's 50 years of it seems all riskless until it doesn't. yes, that's an interesting chart to have the time in which we've been on the air. yeah, and of course we broadcast and the 50 countr

in the commons, there were cross—party calls for more.40,000 afghan refugees in the uk. numbers matter less than need. we need to reject this artificial distinction i between resettlement and asylum. today's debate revealed the depth of anger and anguish at what's happened. the words spoken here will make little difference to the immediate situation in afghanistan, but borisjohnson looks isolated as mps queued up to ask how a 20—year commitment unravelled so fast. no more so than those who had served in afghanistan, fighting in a campaign that cost the lives of a57 servicemen and women. like many veterans, this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger and grief and rage. the feeling of abandonment of notjust a country, but the sacrifice that my friends made. the house of commons, full for the first time in over a year, had rarely seemed so quiet. shameful. ben wright, bbc news, westminster. events unfolding in afghanistan are still capturing the world's headline, so check out our website for all the latest news and d

but there is cross—party anger at what's happened in afghanistan, and the foreign secretary is feelinge biggest survey of covid infection in the uk has found that both the pfizer and astrazeneca vaccines are still offering good protection against the delta variant, the dominant strain in the uk. but researchers also found that fully vaccinated adults can harbour virus levels as high as those who are unvaccinated if infected with the delta variant. here's our medical editor, fergus walsh. 16—year—olds in newcastle were taking up the offer of a covid vaccine today, ahead of returning to school and college. new research shows the younger you are, the more durable the protection from the vaccine, and for now they are being offered only a single dose. analysis of pcr tests from more than a third of a million volunteers has shown the delta variant is more able to cause infection in fully immunised adults than previous strains. the study found that two doses of the pfizer vaccine initially gave more than 90% protection against symptomatic covid infection, compared to around 70% for the oxford

and if you're one of them, but let's say you're reluctant to let a cross party lines than the recall is for you because you're not signing on for 4 years. you're signing on for one year. so take a chance on change and see if things improve, they don't. you can always vote for return to the way things are next year. but i think you will see major improvements in the quality of your life because my administration will be about back to basics pave our roads store water manage our forests. main and our police do the things government is supposed to do. mister kiley, thank you very much. and thanks to all of you for participating in the debate this evening to you and thank you for watching at home. we'll see this weekend. and every weekend on inside california politics.

today, cross—party fear that progress could vanish.at we're going to see every female mp murdered. we're going to see ministers strung up on street lamps, and this is the decision that i'm afraid has been taken. we haven't heard from the foreign secretary in about a week, despite this being the biggest single foreign policy department, disaster, sorry, since suez. it has been a catastrophic miscalculation, that is absolutely clear. the uk and the united states both overestimated the capacity of the afghan government to hold off the taliban and underestimated the capacity of the taliban to advance throughout the country, and that has been clear, actually, for days. the uk says its mission in afghanistan had to end once the us announced its decision to leave, despite the consequences. it's a mark of the crisis that mps and peers will be brought back from their summer break on wednesday for a day's debate. many are livid about the way afghanistan is being left. but talking here won't stop the taliban, and all mps can do is ask ministers h

you are seeing really interesting cross party alliances when it comes to some of the democrats on houseudiciary committee, people like congressman ken buck is a staunch republican but very much in line at least many of the different pages using democrats put forward but also saying democrats and republicans especially those who represent the state of california for many of these tech companies are based, they are raising concerns that they are worried about moving in a time like i is too fast and maybe hurting the economy because of it. i think right now it's much messier and not a purely partyline issue at all. you have top republicans like kevin mccarthy and jim jordan at the top of the judiciary committee also very much trying to discourage movement on these bills and encourage republicans not to support them, that path. i think it's fascinating. i think you're seeing divisions in both parties. >> host: cat zakrzewski? >> guest: i don't think we're seeing different motivations that are bring the lawmakers to these issues it's really interesting, you mention ken buck supporting these

today, cross—party fear that progress could vanish.p murdered. we're going to see ministers strung up on street lamps, and this is the decision that i'm afraid has been taken. we haven't heard from the foreign secretary in about a week, despite this being the biggest single foreign policy department, disaster, sorry, since suez. it has been a catastrophic miscalculation, that is absolutely clear. the uk and the united states both overestimated the capacity of the afghan government to hold off the taliban and underestimated the capacity of the taliban to advance throughout the country, and that has been clear, actually, for days. the uk says its mission in afghanistan had to end once the us announced its decision to leave, despite the consequences. it's a mark of the crisis that mps and peers will be brought back from their summer break on wednesday for a day's debate. many are livid about the way afghanistan is being left. but talking here won't stop the taliban and all mps can do is ask ministers how a humanitarian and security disast

in the commons, there were cross—party calls for more.itment of welcoming at least 35—40,000 afghan refugees in the uk. numbers matter less than need. we need to reject this artificial distinction between resettlement and asylum. today's debate revealed the depth of anger and anguish at what's happened. the words spoken here will make little difference to the immediate situation in afghanistan, but borisjohnson looks isolated as mps queued up to ask how a 20—year commitment unravelled so fast. no more so than those who had served in afghanistan, fighting in a campaign that cost the lives of a57 servicemen and women. like many veterans, this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger and grief and rage. the feeling of abandonment of not just a country, but the sacrifice that my friends made. the house of commons, full for the first time in over a year, had rarely seemed so quiet. shameful. ben wright, bbc news, westminster. throughout the day, council leaders across the country have said they are ready to provide a safe

to see 19 republicans crossed party lines against the explicit demands of the former president donaldhis past is a great validation ofjoe biden's argument that he can lower the temperature in washington and get work done. the further you get away from washington and indeed the us, the more people think it is a very binary equation, republicans versus democrats. but there is another game in town, and that is the progressives within the democratic party, who are really not terribly happy with the direction this bill is going, and are ready to dig their heels in. is going, and are ready to dig their heels in.— going, and are ready to dig their heels in. is that where biden's real _ their heels in. is that where biden's real problems - their heels in. is that where biden's real problems lie i their heels in. is that where i biden's real problems lie going ahead? that's right, in victory there are now a dozen more problems for the white house. the chief one being alexandria casey cortez from new york and the progressive caucus of about 96 members. they have said if democrats don't also pas

today, cross parties fear that progress could vanish. the real dancer progress could vanish.ogress could vanish. the real danger is we're _ progress could vanish. the real danger is we're going _ progress could vanish. the real danger is we're going to - progress could vanish. the real danger is we're going to see i danger is we're going to see every female mp murdered, ministers strung up on street lamps and this is a decision i am afraid that has been taken. we have not heard from the foreign secretary in about a week despite this being the single foreign policy disaster sent suez. it single foreign policy disaster sent suez— sent suez. it was a miscalculation. - sent suez. it was a | miscalculation. the sent suez. it was a - miscalculation. the uk and sent suez. it was a _ miscalculation. the uk and us over_ miscalculation. the uk and us over estimating the capacity of the afghan government to hold off the — the afghan government to hold off the taliban and underestimated the capacity of the taliban to advance throughout the country and that has been — throughout the count

he has invited opposition leader to be part of the pandemic recovery council and called for cross partyration. he has malaysia started prime minister in 18 months. his predecessor resigned as anger grew over the government's handling over the pandemic. to india, the country sent to detail a four year plan monday, raising money for state infrastructure assets as like government looks to both her finances and rein in widening budget deficit. india is aiming to raise as much as $23 billion through much 2022, the proposals include an ipo buy life insurance corporation of india and the sale of stakes in petroleum and air india. widespread power outages and floods reported across the northeastern part of the u.s. after tropical storm henry made landfall in rhode island -- tropical storm henri made landfall in rhode island. about 1000 flights have been canceled, train services were disrupted, and some new york city tunnels were flooded. global news, 24 hours a day, on air and on bloomberg quicktake, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i'm su keenan. t

but there is cross—party anger at what has happened in afghanistan and the foreign secretary is feelinginster. our correspondent secunder kermani is in kabul now put at what i hope is there that all those people begging to get out at the airport, that they might be able to leave? t to get out at the airport, that they might be able to leave?— to get out at the airport, that they might be able to leave? i was there a short while _ might be able to leave? i was there a short while ago _ might be able to leave? i was there a short while ago and _ might be able to leave? i was there a short while ago and the _ might be able to leave? i was there a short while ago and the situationl a short while ago and the situation is a little calmer than it has been in previous days but still very chaotic, large crowds of people at the different entrances to the airport. still seeing taliban fighters whipping members are background in order to try to control them at times. and some of those people who do have valid permission to travel, to be evacuated, are saying they are struggling to get to the entran

funding for education, healthcare, climate, without gop support, all this after 19 republicans crossed party a separate $1 trillion infrastructure bill just yesterday. house speaker nancy pelosi says the lower chamber will not pass this bill without the other one. jillian: another fox news alert, new york cuomo now in his final weeks of office after resigning amid sexual harassment allegations from 11 women. >> the best way i can help now is if i step aside and let government get back to government. government. jillian: a criminal investigation will be ongoing despite his resignation. lieutenant governor kathy hochul will address new yorkers today. she will officially replace cuomo on august 24th, becoming the state's first female governor. coming up, janice dean and joe concha will join us live with reaction from the fallout from cuomo's resignation. todd: the two brothers accused of killing a chicago police officer will be held without bond. they are facing multiple charges for the attack. prosecutors say monte admitted to firing his gun. another officer was shot in his eye and remains in

todd: this comes after 19 republicans crossed party lines to pass a $1 trillion infrastructure bill yesterdayncy pelosi saying the lower chamber will not pass one bill without the other of. afghan security forces capturing a new city. they say the city has been taken back. the taliban still has captured at least eight cities in five days. despite this, president biden defending pulling u.s. troops >> they've got to fight for themselves. fight for their nation. the united states we continue to keep the commitments we made but they've got to want to fight. i do not regret my decision. todd: the state department blaming the violence on the trump administration, saying its deal with the taliban made the situation preordained. jillian: arizona congressman andy biggs introducing two articles of impeachment against dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas. mayorkas. the republican is accusing mayorkas of overseeing a, quote, reckless abandonment of border security and failing to put public health protections in place. meantime, mayorkas and national security advisor jake sullivan met with counterparts in me

it crosses political party lines.d women who raise our food, patrol our streets, man our mines, and teach our children, keep our homes and heal us when we are sick. professionals, industrialists, shopkeepers, clerks, cabbies, and truck drivers -- they are, in short, we, the people. this breed called americans. this administration's objective will be a healthy, vigorous growing economy that provides equal opportunities to all americans. putting america back to work means putting all americans back to work. ending inflation means freeing all americans from the terror of runaway living costs. we all must share in the productive work of this new beginning at almost share in that bounty of a revived economy. with the idealism and fair play which are the core of our system, and our strength, we can have a strong and prosperous america and at peace with itself and the world. as we begin, let us take inventory. we are a nation that has a government, not the other way around. this makes us special among the nations of the eart

and in a few minutes we'll be speaking to the conservative mp for crawley, and head of the cross—partyhe ogmore river in south wales. our correspondent hywel griffith is at the scene in sarn and has sent this update. the five—year—old boy has been named locally as logan, and all through the morning, people have been bringing cards, teddy bears, flowers to lay aside the scene where he was found. police were first called at 5:a5am on saturday morning, initially the report of a missing child. very quickly when they came here, they found his body in the ogmore river, just behind those trees. he was taken to hospital but sadly nothing could be done to save him. this story took an even more tragic turn yesterday when it was announced that three people had been arrested on suspicion of murder, a 39—year—old, a 30—year—old and a 13—year—old boy. they haven't been named but i understand the police have at least another five or six hours to question them and they may be able to extend that time of questioning. people we've spoken to here this morning in sarn are clearly shocked by these developm

to decouple these two bills which was a dangerous thing for democrats because you have this big cross party agreement to push these together. but they did not actually want to scuttle the reconciliation bill. the thing that got heimer won't the most is in the reconciliation bill. this first bill is so important that we need to rush it through. the first bill is for building projects and it takes years to build. it makes no sense at all. they end it up cornering themselves and that's why, you know, their ploy came apart as my colleague notes, nancy pelosi is also as master at this. that's another reason why. you have two things coming together here. >> that's really well put. it is fascinating because no one has to be convinced why this matters. everyone lives through $600 stimulus checks. as you are going through it, josh, some of the i really think manchin ises the framework, the manchin style thing does not work well unless you have real reasons you would walk and you would actually walk. that sense is no different than people do everyday. are you going to walk out and not buy a car or do

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i want to work cross—party to find a solution.where this protest is taking place and take action. a spokesperson for the ministry of defence said in a statement... these gurkha veterans say they want the british and nepalese governments to set a date for talks about their plight and say they want a gurkha representative to be there. if that happens within three months, they're willing to postpone their hunger strike. lebo diseko, bbc news. in russia, the jailed opposition leader alexei navalny has been charged with another crime. the investigative committee, which looks into major crimes in russia, says it has now charged alexei navalny with "creating a non—profit organisation that infringes on the rights of citizens". winchester is the least affordable city in the country to buy a home in. that's according to the halifax. it's released new figures which suggest properties in the hampshire commuter city cost 14 times average earnings, significantly higher than the uk average. typically, people have to pay eight times average earni

but there is cross—party anger at what has happened in afghanistan and the foreign secretary is feelingtminster. here the government, says the uk will continue to help people leave the country, as long as the us military remains in control of the airport. more british troops are being sent to help maintain order. lucy manning, has been speaking to one family who managed to escape kabul, and also to an interpreter who worked with british forces, and remains trapped there. to stay is dangerous, to try to go isn't much safer — but it's a risk many are taking. this man worked in afghanistan, a british afghan, here pictured with the country's former defence minister, thanking him for his work. he and his family were flown out of afghanistan two days ago by the raf and are now quarantining in manchester. yes, i feel good, we are safe. we will start back from scratch in the uk. his wife isn't a dual national. she was told to stay behind and then struggled to get into the airport. the situation is very bad because we were literally inside the compound, we could see the fighting, the shooting. s

in the commons, there were cross—party calls for more.,000 afghan refugees in the uk. numbers matter less than need. we need to reject this artificial distinction between resettlement and asylum. today's debate revealed the depth of anger and anguish at what's happened. the words spoken here will make little difference to the immediate situation in afghanistan, but borisjohnson looks isolated as mps queued up to ask how a 20—year commitment unravelled so fast. no more so than those who had served in afghanistan, fighting in a campaign that cost the lives of a57 servicemen and women. like many veterans, this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger and grief and rage. the feeling of abandonment, of not just a country, but the sacrifice that my friends made. the house of commons, full for the first time in over a year, had rarely seemed so quiet. 0ur political correspondent jonathan blake is at westminster. you will have heard that the prominent stress isolated. how big an issue as that is that? i prominent stress isol

i want to work cross party to find a solution.se gurkha veterans say they want the british and nepalese government to set a date for talks about their plight, and say they want a gurkha representative to be there. if that happens within three months, they are willing to postpone their hunger strike. lebo diseko, bbc news. lamb reared on the salt marshes of the gower peninsula in south wales has become the first food in the uk to be granted protected status after brexit. other products already protected under european law — such as cornish pasties — are also included in the scheme. our wales correspondent, hywel griffith, has more. unfortunately, the elements are against us, because otherwise i would be showing this glorious coastline on the gower, and out there somewhere, the sheep that get to graze on samphire, sorrel and sea lavender. that is what gives the salt marsh lamb on the gower coast its unique flavour. someone who can tell us far more about it is will pritchard, the farmer here. what makes these lambs unique and worthy

what can you make this a cross-party appeal to the government?ck with it and as we have seen over the last 16 months, it has worked well. no insensible is now talking about getting rid of universal credit. what we need to do is complete that job. —— no one sensible. we to make sure it does provide the purpose of providing a safety net when people face challenges. to retain that is incentive to get into work and revive those important stepping stones into work. i think that is probably the best legacy that we can deliver out of this pandemic and complete that levelling up programme that the prime minister really touched a chord, and we now need to deliver on that. the touched a chord, and we now need to deliver on that.— deliver on that. the chancellor made it very clear — deliver on that. the chancellor made it very clear at _ deliver on that. the chancellor made it very clear at the _ deliver on that. the chancellor made it very clear at the beginning - deliver on that. the chancellor made it very clear at the beginning that i it very clear at t

they tend to fuzz up and cross over traditional party lines. i want to read you something by jonathan swan over it axios. biden's aides are second guessing his decision to withdraw i would point out only that opinion polls are moving targets. and the coverage of this this weekend change hearts and minds, but juanita, basically, do you agree with that assessment? >> to this point, yes, brian i, agree with that assessment, given the polls we have seen over the past 20 years showing that americans want those troops pulled out. biden wants those troops pulled out, and he was even opposed when obama increase troops during his term. while yes, i agree politically, this is something that will have diminished blow back for democrats. i do think it is important to keep an eye on those opinion pieces, especially, as we know, because americans are still on the ground in kabul and the embassy and they need to safe transition out of the country. so while there is definitely minimal political blow back, biden standing by his decision, we know is a popular de

i have noted the reactions to it tend to fuzz up and cross over traditional party lines.juanita by jonathan swan at a example ios, biden's key aides are not second guessing the decision to withdraw, they derive comfort that the american people are behind them. and they bet they won't be punished politically for executing a withdrawal. i would point out only that opinion polls are moving targets. and the coverage of this, this week can change hearts and minds. but juanita, basically, do you agree with that assessment? >> so this point, yes, i agree with the assessment, given the polls that we have with seen over the past 20 years showing americans wanted those troops pulled out we know for years, biden has wanted the troops pulled out. and he opposed when president obama increased the troops during his term. so, while yes, i agree politically this is something that will have diminished blow-back for democrats, i do think it is important to keep an eye on those opinion pieces especially as we know americans are still on the ground and kabul and at the embassy and they need

the red cross has warned the fighting parties to restrain themselves, amid reports thousands of civiliansting. caroline hawley has the story. the aftermath of the battle for kunduz, the northern city captured by the taliban on sunday, the terrifying cost of urban warfare. the un and other aid agencies are now growing increasingly alarmed at the mounting toll it's taking. civilians have fled the taliban advances in their tens of thousands. many have reached the relative safety of the capital kabul. translation: those who have been displaced are in a very - bad and frustrating situation, but those in the government have not sent a representative here to help. there's little comfort for them here, but they've left far worse behind. people are living in fearand dread. women are already being killed and shot for breaching rules that have been imposed on what they can wear and on where they can move without a male escort. it's time for the international community to prioritise peace in afghanistan. securing a ceasefire is the aim of these talks taking place in the qatari capital doha over the n

quite a bit of cross party criticism of the uk decision to pull out, as president biden coming underheriting all this hardware that has been pumped into the country by the americans and others, including an airforce, they will possibly get hold of so their position may be a lot stronger than it was 20 years ago by the international community are still trying to threaten the taliban saying they will be cut off, there will be no aid assistance method are not getting involved and power—sharing but the military reality is they are completely pulverising the afghan forces, that is not much incentive to negotiate. in the meantime the us is taking steps as the uk is to send troops there to get its remaining nationals out. yes, the first contingent of that 3000 strong force of american marines and infantry have arrived at the airport, being transported from within the region not far away and we were told they would be there within 48 and was in any case so it is not surprising they are there now. that is aimed at facilitating the evacuation of embassy staff, about 4000 people working at the

the story lines in that regard, they cross in terms of party association i think more than caucus one way or the other. but there are these -- again, i mentioned at the beginning there are these very clear patterns i the political process integrate into the institution. it may take many more years in one case for one group, for one stage, but they're three very clear stages. for instance, for women, for a very long time, the early women members of congress from rank and up to world war ii purposefully, with the exception of rankin, did not embrace what you would call a women's rights agenda. they tried to minimize gender distinctions, figuring it was the best way to work into the hierarchy. it's the same way with the hispanic-american members up until chavez and the post world war ii period. there is the tension to the degree you're going to act as a surrogate representative. henry gonzalez was a co-founder of the hispanic caucus in late '76, but he is so turned off by activists and particularly loraza, which attacked him in the late '60s and early '70s, he questions tactics used by a