we almost never hear from justice clarence thomas. ou to hear one of the most conservative political justices on the court saying, politics is the biggest threat? >> it does surprise me to hear justice thomas say anything, but especially hear him say that. i mean, this is a growing thing. just in the last few weeks, we've heard similar sentiments from justice amy coney barrett and even stephen breyer. we can all see what's going on here. it goes back to really 2000, bush v. gore, when the five conservatives took this side and the four liberals took that side. that's not happenstance. that's not coincidence. we saw it against just a couple weeks ago with the texas abortion case. the five justices who said -- they said, well, we can't touch it now because of procedural issues, just so happened to be five conservative justices, most of whom are on record as being in favor of striking down roe v. wade. we can't ignore that. >> areva, he talked about his experience growing up in segregated georgia in the '50s and '60s. let's listen. >> ther

we almost never hear from justice clarence thomas. it surprise you to hear one of the most conservative political justice ops on the co saying politics is the biggest threat? >> it does surprise me to hear justice thomas say anything, but especially that. this is a growing thing. just in the last few weeks we have heard similar sentiments from amy bony barrett, even justice bryer. my reaction is it's lovely to tell us, we on the supreme court are not political, how about acting like it? we can all see what's going on here. it goes back to 2000, bush v. gore when the five conservatives took this side and the five liberals took that side. we can do the math on that. we saw it again a couple weeks ago abwith the texas abortion case. the five justices, well, we can't touch it because of procedural issues, happened to be five conservative justices that most of whom are on record as being, you know, in favor of striking down roe v. wade. we can't ignore that. >> so he talked about his experience growing up in segregated georgia in the '50s

and the seniormost justice in the majority was clarence thomas. will control the opinion if there is a vote on the future of abortion rights, which there will certainly be more of. there's a big mississippi case coming down the pike. and it is likely that this texas case goes back. clarence thomas is committed over and over again to overturn roe v. wade. he is the single most dominant justice of that view. but he is joined by samuel alito, who has also expressed the view as wrong. and donald trump promised to appoint justices who will appoint -- who will overturn roe, and that's what he's done. with justice gorsuch, amy coney barrett and justice kavanaugh. so interior nowthere are now fi solid votes on the supreme court to overturn abortion rights and clarence thomas is leading the charge and he's going to be the one assigning the opinion when the mississippi case comes up later this year. >> the fact that the majority of the court conceded in their opinion that abortion providers raise, quote unquote, serious constitutional questions about the la

and the senior-most justice in the majority was clarence thomas.rol the -- the opinion if there is a -- a vote on the future of abortion rights, which there will certainly be more of. there is a big mississippi case coming down the pike. and it -- it is likely that this texas case goes back. clarence thomas has committed over and over again to overturn roe v. wade. he is the single-most dominant justice of that view. but he is joined by samuel alito who has also expressed as wrong. and donald trump promised to appoint justices who will point -- who will overturn roe and that's what he has done with justice gorsuch, amy coney barrett, and justice kavanaugh. so there are now five solid votes on the supreme court to overturn abortion rights. and clarence thomas is leading the charge, and he is going to be the one assigning the opinion when the mississippi case comes up later-this year. >> the fact that the majority of the court conceded in their opinion that abortion providers raise, quote/unquote, serious constitutional questions about the law. and t

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when you look back at testifying in front of congress about clarence thomas, how did that impact your "believing" is possible for the future. >>> inside "varsity blues." one of the coaches at the center of the college admissions scandal now telling his side of the story. ♪ oh, a little respect ♪ >>> opening night unlike any other. >> this is the met. >> i'm still pinching myself. >> behind the scenes with the creative geniuses making history tonight before the mets dazzling reopening. ♪ working 9 to 5 >>> and pour yourself a cup of ambition. what's got dolly singing us into the week? ♪ whoo whoo whoo ♪ ♪ i can do it, so can you ♪ >> as we get ready to start our 9 to 5, we're morning, america. ♪ 9 to 5 ♪ >>> how much do we love dolly? >> big time. >> oh my gosh. >> great way to start the week, and glad you're with us. whit is here, and t.j. as well at the desk. >> absolutely. good to be with you on a monday, kick start the new week. and robin, you had a very busy day. >> late night, got back from chicago. i spent some time there with barack obama. we talked about the political scene in

clarence thomas, samuel alito, likewise. very strong views about abortion. this is the day that these five justices, and imagine, it is only five justices, have been waiting for. that day came and we on the other side are going to meet this moment. we will organize a full-scale mobilization. women will speak up and speak out, and men, around and across the country. the supreme court has spoken. yes, in an incredibly cowardly way. but we now see what they said, what they think, what they do. it is a sign of what they will do in a few months in the mississippi case. host: let's get to callers. george in bloomington, illinois. good morning. caller: good morning. i have been calling your program with interest this morning. in response to ms. aron, her comment that the supreme court has spoken in an incredibly cowardly way is outrageous and she ought to be ashamed of herself having said that. i would say professor jonathan turley, a highly regarded law professor of george washington university who was on television just yesterday about this new ruling from the su

laura: my old boss, clarence thomas offered a warning last night. plains. topical pain relief ingredient. it's clinically proven, reduces inflammation and comes in original prescription strength. salonpas. it's good medicine. >> when supreme court justice clarence thompson speak laura: when clarence thomas speaks you better listen up.s, this was his warning about the court straying from its original mission. >> when we do that and venture into political, legislative or executive branch lanes and resolving things, those things in the federal judiciary with lifetime appointments are asking for trouble, we lost the capacity even as leaders to not allow others to manipulate our institutions when we don't get the outcomes we like. the court was thought to be the less dangerous branch and we've become the most dangerous. laura: the most dangerous. remember laura ingraham.com, get your freedom matters gear made in the usa, great shirts, great gear, all the proceeds go to the tunnel for towers foundation, incredible people running it, i want to thank you for

particularly along -- among blacks, clarence thomas started on the left.n economist who passed away recently started out on the left. shelby steele, the race scholar and colleague at the hoover institution started out on the left. these guys did not to start slightly left of center, tom was a marxist. clarence thomas was a black panther. walter williams was sympathetic to the views of malcolm x. shelby steele was a black radical in the 1960's. it wasn't that uncommon that sowell's origins in that sense. i'm not surprised at all. susan: just to let you know, we have about 15 minutes left. i wanted to go back about not suffering. the. i started writing down some descriptions, headstrong, high-handed indifference, surprising self-assurance. if you met thomas sowell in person, what would you get? jason: [laughter] it's hard for me to think of meeting him without knowing who he was and having read him. i was already quite intimidated, because he was such a towering intellect when i first met him. but he did put me at ease, he was very funny. he tells a lot of j

all-male senate panel 30 years ago led by then-senator joe biden about supreme court justice clarence thomasthomas of sexual harassment. he denied any wrongdoing. hill is now a law -- and lawyer and professor writing about that and more in her new book that goes on sale tomorrow. it's called "believing: our 30 year journey to end gender violence." and anita hill joins me now. thanks so much for being with us, professor hill. let's just talk about the term gender violence for those who aren't familiar with it. can you just talk about the -- the meaning of it? >> well, the meaning of it is probably best explained by giving you the examples that i explore in the book which includes a range of behavior from bullying in schools. and certainly, sexual harassment in schools and colleges. to intimate-partner violence as well as sexual assault and rape and stalking. so, it's a range of behaviors and basically it's directed at -- at people because of their gender and in the name of gender, very often. and so, um, i wanted to explore the totality of it even though i'm known for people -- to people beca

commerce clause is caused challenges to healthcare f reform also clarence thomas on the supreme court also to my left is a client of high-stakes appeal to the us supreme court and appellate courts across the country argue twice in front ofes the supreme court prevailing in both cases presenting many arguments state clerked for clarence thomas and on the dc circuit receiving undergraduate degree from princeton please welcome to the panel. [applause] so giving overview of what she wrote her article. >> thank you for inviting me to write the article with justice souter 82nd birthday , today he is in my mind it was surprising to hear he was 82 but we can raise an apple and a younger in his honor tonight spending about what was unprecedented in the sense it was entirely remote and the first term since justice ginsburg passed away and the court shifted to the right and theas court now has on his docket for thehe upcoming term a handful of perspective the juicy cases involving abortion, guns, religion potentially affirmative-action so the real question is not whether or not the court will co

in the most appalling way in which clarence thomas felt that he was being racially discriminated. and we are just seeing this history of joe biden. remember when he talked about crime and his sons not wanting to grow up in a jungle when he presided over the most draconian crime laws in the country that targeted specifically black men. he now has done a complete 180 and unfortunately, he is serving for himself, between himself and his maker but he is making the rest of the country be complicit in his previous racism. it's not a systemically racist country but joe biden is projecting his own problems and we are suffering for it. >> sean: i can't wait for your book to come out, yet to give you an answer. it's a little frustrating, can we print a little faster? i've been waiting for it. >> i want it, i wanted to. i will get you a copy as soon as i can. i think at the end of october. >> sean: i'm waiting. we will tell you the truth of what is in the laptop. the media will, we know, covered up. when we come back, the shocking disappearance of 22-year-old gabby petito. this story, the t

it will perform on the dc circuit and clarence thomas on the supreme court. and to my immediate left is the partner client high-stakes appeals of the u.s. supreme court and federal and state appellate courts across the country. she's argued twice before the supreme court prevailing in both cases and presenting many arguments and federal courts and state courts of appeals and clerked for clarence thomas, the dc circuit, received her undergraduate degree from princeton, magna cum laude from harvard and phd from the s university of cambridge. if i wasn't here speaking with you i would be a philosophy professor right now.ro please welcome the panel. [applause] >> we are going to start off with amy to give an opening view of what she wrote in her article in the cases that she covered which are blockbusters. >> thank you so much for having me and inviting me to write the article. happy constitution day and it is also the 82nd birthday today. i sort of had him in my mind when he retired so it was a shock to realize but we can all raise an apple and yogurt in his hon

for some that brought back memories of anita hill's testimony that clarence thomas sexually harassedhearing. since thin, anita hill has continued teaching law and policy and women's issues. she has a new book called "our 30 year history to end gender violence." one of the themes is something then-republican senator arlen specter said to you when you testified that clarence thomas routinely talked about porno graphic films in front of you, recounting graphic details about women's body parts. here's what senator specter said back then. take a listen. >> you testified this morning in response to senator biden that the most embarrassing question involved -- this is not too bad -- women's large breasts. that's a word we use all the time. >> that phrase, this is not too bad. you write it's something women almost always hear. it's not too bad. of course, that is unless it happens to you. >> right. and the danger in that and really the harm in that is that basically what we're doing is grooming women and girls to not check -- not be in touch with our own feelings and to not come forward and

re-tire it [ laughter ] do you follow what i'm saying, clarence thomas?ou retire it. [ light laughter ] mike scollins liked it so much, he wanted me to say the punchline twice. [ laughter ] he thought that maybe the standing ovation - [ laughter ] i would say it over the standing ovation. the house of representatives returned tuesday from its august recess oh, good just in time for october in a new interview, first lady dr. jill biden said that their german shepherd, major's, habit of biting secret service agents has caused her and president biden to delay bringing a cat into the white house, because as much as it hurts to get bitten, it hurts even more to be ignored. [ light laughter ] new york mayor bill de blasio's press secretary announced, yesterday, that he will step down next month to open a political consulting firm, which will teach aspiring politicians, i guess, what not to do? customs officials said, recently, that they have intercepted thousands of packages of fake coronavirus vaccine cards from china and you can tell they're fake, because the

supreme court justice clarence thomas also spoke out this week to say that the court isn't political.the justices are not ruling based on personal preferences and suggested that the nation's leaders should not allow others to manipulate our institutions when we don't like the outcome that -- we don't get the outcome that we like. brian, are they protesting just a little too much here? i mean, we were not born yesterday. >> i think they're trolling us, i think justices like alito and clarence thomas and now justice barrett know full well the havoc politically they would be wreaking by allowing this anti-abortion statute in texas to stand, and now they're going on a goodwill tour attempting to put the genie back in the bottle claiming that the court is not political. the public is starting to call bs on this. it's far overdue. this doesn't pass the laugh test for these conservative justices it been out there literally justice barrett gave the speech you're referencing at an institute in kentucky named for mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell literally introduced her. she was standing alongs

we were successful to say a decision clarence thomas actually wrote.e there that a racial gerrymandering case brought before the supreme court could be successful. >> okay, and we know north carolina judge just blocked a voter i.d. law there saying it discriminates against black people there. you were successful in suing a bunch of states when you were attorney general. do you think the current justice department should be more aggressive in terms of going after these states? >> well, they have a limited set of tools now as opposed to the tools i've had when i was there. 2013 supreme court decision really gutted the voting rights act and took away a lot of tools from the justice department. but i'm really confident anita gupta along with merrick garland, christian clark, they'll come up with ways they can use remains in the voting rights act to really be aggressive. so i expect they'll be on the front lines in bringing lawsuits where that's appropriate. >> we know the shelby county case is officially called shelby v. holder because we know you were --

so i think that amy coney barrett and clarence thomas clearly need to look in the mirror and do somearching if they're trying to figure out how the court became so politicized. they are the ones who are breaking all of the court's rules, who are violating decades if not centuries of institutional precedent in order to change the law on abortion, on religious liberty, on every issue republicans care about, in the middle of the night through the shadow docket. >> jon, can we track this all back to senator mcconnell playing politics with obama's confirmations or is there something else here to blame? is there more than one person to blame in how we got here? >> i mean, in the modern era or the very modern era, you could look back at that moment, it's certainly a big moment, right? he says, we're not going to let you nominate anybody, we won't even hear from them, merrick garland doesn't get a hearing. and there's certainly anger on the side of the democrats. now merrick garland is the attorney general. this goes back longer than that. there are ideological battles at times that are less

we're talking about clarence thomas of the university of notre dame. >> certainly justice brer has amote. so, that explains a lot of his appearances, certainly. but we've heard from justice barrett and from justice thomas. and i think one possibility is that the justices may be kind of sensitive to the criticism of their ruling in the texas abortion case, their ruling in the federal eviction moratorium case. and so, they are speaking out because they are worried abo the perceptions of the court and they want to push back against the idea that the court is divided or partisan, particularly as they get ready to start a new term in which they're going to be hearing these high profile cases on issues on which the court is likely to be divided again. and then, of cours justice breyer has been promoting his book, but he has been getting a lot of questions about retirement. and so, we will be on justice breyer retirement watch all year long. it's hard for me to see him not retiring after this term. but one thing that i've learned is that when i make predictions about the supreme court, i'm

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this is-- this is, you know, 30 years ago, your testimony against clarence thomas, transformed the nationalalize in this moment that your life was about to change forever? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. in fact, i thought i would be able to go home and keep teaching law, commercial law, and contracts,s and it would be fine. >> stephen: and you couldn't do it. >> my life was turned upside down. it was completely turned upside down. it was chaos and turmoil and threats, threat to my job and, you know, just about every aspect of my life. but, i hung in there. and one of the things that helped me hang in there was what i kept hearing from people who had been suffering from a form of gender violence, one or the other, whether it was incest or bullying or sexual harassment or rape or sexual assault-- all of the above. >> stephen: and your testimony gave them hope or courage? what would they say to you? >> i think many of them, it gave people courage, and hope. you know, i guess it really hadn't dawned on me what my testimony meant until a few years ago, maybe about 10 years ago now, i was spe

some members of the court resist that role, justice clarence thomas blamed media for politicizing courtett argue that court is not just a group of partisan hacks. they worried. our country now seems to turn to the court to settle all of the disputes. democrat itself cannot seem to settle, fox news chiefing legal correspondent shannon bream, what do the laws do? >> i think you made a great point on the texas law it does ban abortions after fetal cardiac heart beat. now the way that framers put it together, not the state enforcing it but private citizens bringing civil actions and sue doctors or people, not the pregnant mother who have taken part in the illegal abortion, a weird set up there was a lot of thought that went into it, it is confounding the court to this point. the supreme court has not ruled on merits of that, they decided to not block it while the case pre seeds on merits, in mississippi they are getting to merits, they hear case on december 1, it bans abortions most after 15 weeks, a lot of states passed laws openly admitting legislative bodies here and many of lawmakers sa

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. >> i want to talk about the court's only black justice, conservative clarence thomas.issues, you used say he was not a sellout, but now you have changed your mind. what changed your mind? another big change of opinion for you. >> well, he has been on the court and he has participated in some of the most hurtful judicial delinquencies in modern american history. the worst was his vote in a 5-4 decision that eviscerated the voting rights act of 1965. people died seeking to get that act put into law. it was a needed, a useful in my view, and obviously proper and constitutional enactment. and he participated in the evisceration of the voting rights act of 1965. and there are other things, but that was the worst. >> yeah. >> and against -- against that backdrop, i have no problem with people, especially black people, shunning him. >> what do you say? i think you said it all right there. i think there are many people of color who feel exactly the same way that you do. professor, thank you so much. i appreciate you joining. i can't wait to read the book. i haven't had the opp

. >>> then justice clarence thomas said on thursday that the supreme court may not be the most dangerous branch of the u.s. government. and while many are asking whether the highest court in the land has become too political. i will put all of the big questions swirling around the court to justice stephen breyer. >>> but first here's "my take." on tuesday president biden will make his first speech to the u.n. general assembly. the address comes at a crucial moment in the biden presidency, and will have a particular impact on how it's viewed abroad. after almost eight months of watching policies, rhetoric and crises, many foreign observers have been surprised, even shocked, to discover that in area after area, biden's foreign policy is a continuation of donald trump's and a repudiation of barack obama's. some of this dismay may the consequence of the abrupt and unilateral manner in which biden withdrew troops from afghanistan. a german diplomat told me in his view berlin was consulted more by the trump administration than by this one. some ask specific actions like the u.s./uk/australia s

. >> in 1991 "designing women" takes on the clarence thomas hearings with anita hill. >> i deny eachling the "me too" movement before there was a name for it. >> this man does not belong on the supreme court. he belongs in the national repertory theater. >> we were at a point in history where women felt like they had some power, and i thought i would create this show around a woman who was a force of nature in a workplace that had traditionally been a man's world. and that's very different from what you could have written in the early 1970s. >> i'm connie chung in new york. >> i'm barbara walters. >> i'm murphy brown. ♪ >> i remember pitching the show in a very cold room in the cbs building. and when i got to the point where she had just come back from betty ford -- >> hi, everybody. >> -- you could hear the brakes screeching in the room. >> you were fondling it while i was gone. >> they said, couldn't she be 30 and played by heather locklear? and i explained why when you shave down the rough edges of a character, you bland them out. and this is why maybe you haven't had a hit for se

clarence thomas, who hails from pinpoint georgia, a commmmunity founded by freed slaves. was a moment whe it was believed that once again, after three other death warrants were vacated, the fourth one would be, but that was not the case. as you reflect back now, your thoughts and where the movement is today? ben: thank you, and my connection is breaking up so i apologize. i was tearing up earlier. it was painful to be brought back to that moment. troy was innocent, he is innocent. the deep irony is that the state of georgia has no interest in finding the killer for the officer. that is perhaps the greatest tragedy. they killed in an instant man and they really don't kill -- they really don't care to find the killer of a police officer that night. the movement has to keep pushing forward with abolishing the death penalty. virginia was a huge victory. it would not be possible for this campaign. connecticut and maryland. it would not be possible without troy's leadership. i remember standing with troy and explaining everything we were doing to make sure we had the votes and

wade, a conservative justice, clarence thomas, believes the constitution should be interpreted as itnd thinks roe was wrongly decided where is breyer thinks the constitution evolves so he thinks roe would be okay, thinks it's all about how a judge looks at the law. but here's where he gets into trouble. think about this texas abortion law. it went into effect, the majority allowed it to, and clearly on its face it looks unconstitutional, right? but the majority allowed it to go into effect because texas politicians wrote it a particular way. so the general public looks that the and says that looks like a political move. so that's what breyer is trying to push back against, but it's a little tough right now because really the court is in this political spotlight and he is worried about the institution of the court. >> yeah. you point out what the public sees. a doctor of the state he says he violated that new law. why is he speaking out? >> this is interesting because this is a whole new step now. remember that this law was written very carefully and it was very difficult to challenge

when you combine the three trump justices, gorsuch, kavanagh, and barrett with samuel alito and clarence thomased, that looks like what's going to happen. the other big case that's coming is a challenge on gun control. you know, in 2008, the supreme court said there is a constitutional right to own a handgun in your home. but they haven't really expanded that right. they haven't really said what about a gun outside the home, what about a concealed weapon, what about a bigger than a handgun? that's what's before the court, and it really looks like they may be limiting gun safety laws in a very big way. i think those are the two cases and they're both very big kis cases that most people will be paying attention to. >> thanks, jeffrey. >> all right. >>> up next for us, the ceo of you nighted airlines joins me to share why he thinks his company's vaccine mandate is access and the lessons other companies can and should learn from their experience. never settle for 25%. always go for 100. bring out the bold™ cases that most people will be advanced non-small cell lung cancer can change everything. but

even with assurances this week from both justices amy coney barrett and clarence thomas that the court isn't partisan -- just let that sink in -- this is a supreme court that's been remade in donald trump's image. and it's been increasingly hostile to voting rights recently. in remarks that the university of notre dame on thursday, justice thomas was right about one thing, though. >> i think the court was thought to be the least dangerous branch and we may have become the most dangerous. >> ya think? so what's a democrat to do? enter senator amy klobuchar, who along with several co-sponsors announced the freedom to vote act earlier this week. and as you see, joining me now is senator amy klobuchar, democrat from the great state of minnesota, home to carlton college. she's also chair of the senate rules committee. senator klobuchar, thank you so much for coming back to the sunday show. >> thanks, jonathan, but i have not been in your new digs in person. and the view of the capitol, it's really amazing. so, congratulations. >> thank you very much. it is quite -- a quite swank set. all ri

supreme court justice clarence thomas also spoke out this week to say that the court is not political to laugh. he said -- brian, are they protesting just a little too much here? i, mean we were not born yesterday. >> i think they are trolling us, zerlina. i think justices like -- justice barrett to, they all know full well that have a political they would be wreaking by the statute, this antiabortion statute in texas to stand. and now they are going on a goodwill tour attempting to put the genie back in the bottle claiming that the court is not political, while the public is starting to call bs on this. it is far over due. this doesn't pass the lap test for these conservative justices there. barrett gave the speech you are referencing at an institute in kentucky name from mitch mcconnell. mitch mcconnell literally introduced. or so she is standing alongside the man who promised to blockade anybody picks and claimed that justices are not political actors. come, on the only thing that is surprising to me is that a lot of mainstream media outlets continue to report these at face value.

there are three other appointees on the court samuel alee doe, clarence thomas and thomas have spoken out about roe v. wade before. there are five justices, three trump appointees plus there they are on the screen who seem like solid votes to overturn roe v. wade. we have been accused those of us saying that roe is about to be overturned as being chicken little the sky is falling, the sky is falling. we'll see. it certainly looks like the sky is fall noing now. republicans have been very up front what they want to do on the supreme court. they may do it as of now. we'll see what if any political blow back there is. you know, it has certainly been more animating and successful issue for republicans than for democrats, but as states start to outright ban abortion, maybe that will change. but i don't hazard a prediction about that. >> jeffrey toobin, thanks so much. >> all right. >>> the new overnight signs of progress in the power emergency after hurricane ida. more than a million still in the dark including all of louisiana but louisiana regional power company is aiming to restore some

. >>> we rarely hear from justice clarence thomas.rsity of notre dame and was critical of judges wading into politics. >> when we do that, we begin to venture into political -- the legislative or executive branch lanes, and resolving things that are better left to those branches, those of us particularly in the federal judiciary with lifetime appointments are asking for trouble. i think a lot of the pressure, nomination and selection process, is because of that. i think the court was thought to be the least dangerous branch and we may have become the most dangerous. >> justice thomas says the high court must remain independent from political polarization and warned against destroying our institutions. just because they don't give us what we want. when we want it. >>> and programming note for you here, mass shootings, gun violence, and the nra's role in u.s. law, what is the cost of the war on gun control? a cnn film, the price of freedom, airs on sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. my father was an allstate agent for 17 years. and i've been