eugene rodríguez: muchas gracias damián, gracias. casas de esas comunidades, y aprendieron mucho de, de la belleza de, el valor de esas tradiciones, fue, es un documental muy, muy bonito. damián trujillo: estamos viendo un poco de video, y los colores son los que son fascinantes, ¿sabes? del, del vestuario, de las paredes, de cómo decoraban los restaurantes, hay mucho color en yucatán. eugene rodríguez: sí, parece que, sí, el color es parte de la vida ahí; yo creo que tal vez por, porque es tierra tropical ¿no?, y la gente usa colores, y hacen sus propios, pinta y, cosas de la naturaleza. damián trujillo: entonces, se ve que es video profesional, pero no lo es, ¿verdad?, me dices que, me dices que las niñas lo tomaron. eugene rodríguez: no, lo que pasó es que todo en la película fue filmado por las dos muchachas y mi esposa, su maestra, eh, como video, teléfonos, y cualquier cámara que tiene; y les dimos unas clases de cómo hacer, hacerlo, e hicieron bien, buenísimo; y también hablan e hicieron entrevistas entre ellas, platicando de

it goes back to something that eugene was saying earlier.constant reinterpretation and trying to, you know, maybe go back and correct some of the mistakes that we made or some of the oversimplifications. and say there's more room in these classic stories than we thought there was. and -- and that is, you know, i am stretching to find a serious take on a chubby thor. >> you did it, man. you did it. >> you know, yeah, all right. i will take the win. >> hey, look. i -- i mean, that's -- that is what a powerful body looks like. your -- your power's in your core from belly to butt that's where the bulk of your mass is. chris hemsworth is built to be in movies but, you know, to each their own. so good to have the three of you with us tonight. former obama speechwriter, david lit. "politico's" eugene daniels, and npr's aisha roscoe. >>> coming up, it's been 20 years since the 9/11 terror attack and we asked what's on your mind as we reflect today. we will share some more of your stories when we come back. stay close. close ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ got a

eugene, this picks right up on the quote stewart was making before the break.art stevens, casually dropped in a trump quote from 2020, four and i realized during the break, it's been a good long time since i last asked do you. do you think that it is for real with your knowledge of the former president and the scene right now, do you think that he is as good as in the race? >> right now it is certainly appears that he is. and it's a long time till 2024 things can change. but it absolutely looks like he is going to be in the race again. we and this anti-democratic movement, is kind of what the republican party is more into due to the big lie, and interference to the big lie of the election, this is not just trump, it is being abetted aided and facilitated enabled by republican election officials. in the senate, in the house in the local level who should know better, who maybe did known better but who are making it possible. the kind of democratic rupture in this country that we got more than a glimpse of on january six, that we thought was impossible, i thought

eugene going toe-to-toe with an angry alligator in flip-flops.d with the best thing he could find. >> i'll get the trash can. ill run up over there. >> reporter: backing the gator up and flipping the lid until -- >> got him. >> reporter: eugene, still in flip-flops walking the gator across the street and down the hill. >> i feel bad. he reminded me of a 15-year-old boy locked in a cage. damn, what's going on? >> reporter: finally, making it to the edge of the water. were you nervous or scared? >> when i got down to the hill. there might be three more in the damn bushes. >> reporter: his neighbors and many of the millions who have seen the now-viral video, calling eugene a hero. but he's just happy no one was hurt. gator included. >> how vicious they are, how cunning they are. how small. i love animals. we are all connected. we're on this planet. it was my duty to protect everybody. >> reporter: before you make any florida man jokes, eugene is a native of philadelphia and only lived in florida for a year. he says, next time, though, he will probab

still with us are eugene and stephen.ene, this picks up on the quote stewart was making before the break. stewart kind of casually dropped in there. i realized it's within a long time since i last asked you, do you think it is for real, with your knowledge of the former president and the scene right now, do you think he is as good as in the race? >> i think right now it certainly appears that he is. and, you know, it's a long time until 2024, things can change but it looks like he's going to be in the race again. and the anti-democratic movement which is kind of what the republican party has morphed into due to the big lie and adherence to the big lie about the election. it is not just trump. it is being abetted, aided, fa sill talt home run tated, enabled by elected public officials who should know better who one thought maybe did know better but who are making possible the kind of democratic rupture in this country that we got more than a glimpse of on january 6th but that we thought was impossible. i thought it happens

eugene, that sounded like a lot of washington speak.what it actually means. >> basically, they got a lot of work to do, and not a lot of time to do it in. right? you have most importantly these two deadlines running into each other. the real deadline, the actual deadline is the raising of the debt limit. right? that is the one that actually really matters. the government runs out of money to pay its bills at the end of thursday, september 30th. and the other -- and the one that is most important to democrats is this idea by september 27th that they were going to be done with voting and figuring out what we have got the playbook called the bif, the bipartisan bill on infrastructure, but also the reconciliation bill. and the fight that's happening right now, and the negotiations that are happening right now within the democratic party are, one, you have moderates who say they just want to get the infrastructure bill out and done. but that was not the agreement moving into it. right? >> uh-huh. >> president biden and progressives and moder

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they will tailor it in ways that eugene points out, involve math. it will be pay force, revenue streams, and fuzzy federal mat that in the end none of us understand, that will get it across the finish line. they will not have the price tag it appears to have now. it will be something that can be rationalized by the moderate democrats in congress who are the ones that face competitive elections next year as biden's numbers slide. alexandria cause yokota as, and members of the squad, they are the people who will handle reelection's in their districts that are bright blue. it's the ones who are on the front lines of the majority, who are seeing the president once popular, and over 50% as phil notes a few months ago, slide in popularity. that makes their midterm campaigns much harder. i do believe in the end this will get past, and i think it is sliding in the direction right now of the moderates. >> and feel rocker, indeed, speaking of a national crisis that requires an enormous national outlay of expenditures, can you preview for us what we are likely

i don't know what the, what a joke about eugene debs. why? why has there been no socialist press joy, although i should say, but any sign is obviously wicky leaks revealed how the dnc tried to destroy his candidacy. he's a socialist at nearly became president. so, you know, eugene debs is one of the dissenting heroes that i try to highlight throughout the book. some of them people have heard of like, you know, john quincy adams and abraham lincoln who are and the mexican american war. but using deb stands out because he was for time candidate for president under the socialist party, gets about a 1000000 votes in 1912 and almost the same in 1920. he runs from federal prison in 1920 and his campaign button. se for president convict, you know, 9372 or whatever. i mean, it was kind of incredible. why though, is that the socialist moment until bernie sanders obviously because bernie sanders, one of the project was a documentary about eugene debs, which i think is instructed. but why? well, the united states has this hearty frontier culture. this i

so eugene's exactly right. the supreme court in texas just threw a political bombshell in the middle of american politics and we still don't know what's going to happen on that, so i think we are looking at very uncertain political times. >> thanks to all of you for starting us off. a very important month indeed for president biden and all of his agenda. thanks to phil rucker, of course, to jim messina and -- sorry about that, eugene. eugene. with the president still in the east room that's what we've been all focused on. he has just been shaking hands with his pals in the labor movement. thanks to all. >> and the secretary of state is pushing back on bipartisan criticism. the state department is responsible for the delay of getting the charter planes out of an airplane in northern afghanistan prepared to evacuate americans and at-risk afghans released from the tarmac, though, still delayed, and not released and both sides blaming each other. secretary blinken addressed the situation moments ago speaking at ram

eugene, give me an on the fly column of 60 seconds or so. reminding everyone that joe biden was elected having been there on his experience and competence. and while folks like us have learned never to draw conclusions about a moment in time, because tomorrow everything can change, if time stopped tonight, what's your column say? with his agenda frozen? what happened? is there a leading reason, to you? >> well, i guess i am not quite sure about the premise. it's unclear to me that the agenda is frozen. if time stopped tonight, we wouldn't know how it ended, right? we wouldn't know what eventually happened. and my position has always been, and i have been right so far, that nancy pelosi and joe biden and chuck schumer are pretty good at what they do. they are pretty good at this passing legislation thing. they are good at this counting votes thing. all of them. they have a lot of experience at it. so we have been to the brink several times already, leading up to this huge brink. but so far, they have managed to pull it out. the past results d

this is the language of eugenics, it's horrifying. but there's a reason biden says it. in political terms this policy is call the great replacement of legacy of americans with people

eugene, back we plunge into white house politics. is it fair to say the white house has been caught off guard by the level and degree of infighting blue on blue among democrats? >> i think so. right? i think that the thing they expected was, one, i think j manchin has continued to be kind of a thorn in everyone's side. and i think he actually enjoys being tt foil to the administration, to being that foil for it amount of money that congressants to spend, not that it is not something that he truly believes, but it's also important to remember -- we talk about it on this show -- is that joe manchin is a proxy for other moderate democrats. and i think this white house often forgets that. just because it's just joe manchin that they know that that is going to be upset or doesn't want to spend this much money, it is also sinema and also others who are quiet and allow the two of those senators take a lot of the heat. and so i think we're caught off guard. it's something they have leaned on quite a bit as president biden's ability to twist

and make it a referendum on democracy and big stuff. >> eugene, about the democrats, the four mentionf collection of earnest student council president wearing sensible shoes. do you think they have the discipline to paint every opponent in every congressional race, as a trump, or in theory to try and tie the republican opponents, to this party, that stewart just described. ? >> you know brian, sometimes it's a long and lonely battle to get democrats to take yes for an. answer but this is a pretty resounding yes. a pretty overwhelming blueprint actually for [inaudible] and years california's very democratic state. but the republicans got creamed yesterday. they got obliterated. the democrats with this, stressed that they ran against donald trump in the prison of larry elder and they were in favor of do know, aggressively trying to defeat the covid epidemic. and turned out to be very popular and were extremely popular position of california. i think they're going to be popular in a lot of. waves and yes the discipline was important. and you know will democrats be that disciplined? i don

eugene, really great to see you.h me way too early this morning. i want to ask you about the rally on the 18th? is the idea we can see a repeat of what happened on january fth, or is that taking things too far? >> it's certainly possible, and that's most people's greatest fear. we're seeing the metropolitan police department becoming more vocal and telling us they'll be better prepared for this rally better than the jan 6th insurrection. they're going to make it clear that what could happen actually could end up being comparable to what happened on january 6th if there aren't decisions made from republican lawmakers to communicate very clearly to these protesters that what they need to do is be peaceful protesters instead of repeat the behavior that we saw that led to so much violence earlier -- in the earlier part of 2020. >> and that's, i guess, anything but a sure thing, given how january 6th went down. you mentioned the trump organization has employees set to testify in front of the manhattan district attorney. w

eugene, i'm coming to you.out texas. >> the united states has the authority and the responsibility to ensure that no state can deprive individuals of their constitutional rights, through a legislative scheme specifically designed to prevent the vindication of those rights. >> and, eugene, i realize i needed to be specific. texas is doing a lot of stuff. on that particular moment, the attorney general was talking about abortion rights. how likely is it, do you think, that the biden administration, the justice department will actually be able to do anything to thwart what texas has done? >> well, we know they're going it try. i think the question becomes how quickly can they put something in place that will supercede this ruling from the supreme court that allows texas to go forward with what is so far the most restrictive laws about abortion in the country. this is something that biden and the democratic party as a whole will likely be judged on moving forward to next year's midterms and not to make everything a

eugene dan else are is back. also joining us, ben rhodes, former deputy national security advisory to president obama obama. and ma'am eesh al sin do, the moderator for washington week. all three are msnbc contributor. eugene, i want to hear how you are feeling and doing. i am glad to see you back on this. practice. i want to start with politico's reporting. unfortunately, these are lessons learned from trump's successful efforts to stonewall congress. but it seems that those lessons have been heeded and applied to these first subpoenas. what are you detecting? have any of these witnesses sort of shown any daylight between a strategy of obstruction that trump and his aides adhered to during the impeachment? >> at this point, we haven't. right? they are working on ways -- the panel and the committee are working on ways to make sure that they can add some daylight, they can try and figure out who are the people, the weakest links in the chain on some of this stuff because one thing that's really clear that they nee

eugene, we've got 9 seconds. who are these people?, people like lauren boebert and marjorie taylor green is when you look at the things they're doing, they're not super interested in legislating, right? like this is not really what they're super interested in and that is an issue when it is about legislating, that is their job. and, you know, this -- they are cut from the donald trump school of politics, right? that is the name-calling. because what people may not have seen before debby dingle and her got into it, she had gone up to the people, to the other members of congress who were taking a picture after passing legislation about abortion rights and yelling at them, right? that is kind of where it all started and it's all about antics and all about seeming tougher than the other side and that is where our politics start. could you imagine, you know, ten years ago watching members of congress yell at each other on the steps of congress? that's not something we really would have thought we would be seeing. and it is -- to be clear,

still with us are our friends eugene robinson and stuart stevens.untered with a colonel kurtz situation and whether his enemies want to admit it or not, was the human guardrail in the pentagon, which was without a senate confirmed defense secretary. >> yeah, i mean, as you pointed out earlier on the show, something similar happened when nixon was falling apart at impeachment. but look, nixon on his worst day is socrates compared to donald trump. this guy is a luke tin. what do you do with a lunatic with nuclear weapons, you put the country fast. i have absolutely no problem with it at all, and i think the majority of americans, the idea that there was a stabilizing force at a time when the government itself was under attack by a party and not being defended by the president, i think most americans will find it reassuring. >> eugene, as i said earlier, twitter users may not like it, but the truth is chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and their counterparts overseas, have had a running dialogue for decades that has largely kept the world safer, and

phil, eugene, a.b., friends of the broadcast call. thanks for starting us off. >>> coming up, maybe you're old enough to remember the predictions that september, this month, was supposed to be when we all filed back into work. well, now, it's september, and not so much. we can thank the delta variant and the anti-vaxxers. we'll ask a doctor when he predicts normal american life or something close to it will make its return. >>> later, in texas, you get to carry a gun, no problem. but if you want to vote or obtain an abortion, not so much. we'll talk about the politics, as texas stays on brand. all of this, as "the 11th hour" is just getting under way on this tuesday night. is tuesday nt r schwab financial consultant. hm... i know how difficult these calls can be. not with schwab. nina made it easier to set up our financial plan. we can check in on it anytime. it changes when our goals change. planning can't be that easy. actually, it can be, carl. look forward to planning with schwab. schwab! ♪♪ schwab! some carriers give you so littl

eugene daniels with "politico." fbi assistant director for counterintelligence and author of the book "the bureau, the fbi way." it is good to have you all here. the thing, eugene, and we were talking about this before, the president does this very well. this is somebody that comes out and says, listen, insurance companies, pay up. you know, i don't want you fighting with these people, they need their money. he talks about the very real things they're going through. he has been listening clearly. but now the rubber meets the road, right? the federal government has to come through. >> absolutely. that's the thing this white house says they're very good at. they are always working, trying to figure out the levers that they can use to help people, right. because they believe that government should be doing that and so it kind of helps citizens. it is a bit different than the last administration because if you believe that government is supposed to be doing things in people's lives, especially when it comes to what we'r

so eugenics and that progressive social politics and social science were really anti- eugenics as horribleis so probably there was eugenics in how mac as well that i know where it might show up with this john harvey kellogg connection so i had that moment i'm not making this up a really were involved. [laughter] >> a vocation but no home economics classes and with trade schools. >> absolutely. >> iti really surprised your school did not have how mac with vocation because this is something i tried to bring out in the book at home economics always has been vocational education and was that from the start when the federal government began funding vocational education training teachers and colleges how mac was all that they recognized it got started and lack colleges and after that land-grant colleges with vocational training. one of the ways they responded to the early seventies with the growing number of women working outside the home was a turnaround to double back down at some future homemakers of america started to call themselves fha hero for future homemakers of america and home economi

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eugene, you wrote a fantastic column about robert e.ut the significance of the removal of that statue. it's not just removing a confederate statue. what else does its removal signify? >> i'm just arguing that we also dismantled the myth of robert e. lee, the sort of revanchist myth of him being the greatest general in u.s. history, who reluctantly fought for his state. and was, you know, was against slavery, actually. none of that is true. he wasn't a great general, he lost the war. he really lost the war. he lost everything. and took casualties at a rate that, you know, like stalingrad, basically. he was a slave owner, not a kindly one. he said slavery was evil, but it was more evil to the white man than to the black man. he was not a good guy. >> no. >> he had this myth, that was used to justify the imposition of jim crow, and the maintenance of jim crow, and everything. so let's get rid of the myth of robert e. lee as we get rid of the statue. we've run out of time. jonathan, i'll hit you up next time. thanks for joining us tonight,

eugene, good to see you again this morning, sir.lation about january 6 makes it harder to understand how the response could have been so slow and so tepid. any word on what, if any federal preparation is happening, for september 18, when there is going to be a rally held in d.c. to support those in jail who are in jail for their actions on january 6th? >> well, we have police departments here in d.c. who made it very clear that they have plan to be on more alert than they were previously given what has happened in the past and what they know could happen in the future. we've seen conservative lawmakers be very vocal in their defense of these protesters and rioters on january 6 which, in part, has encouraged many of them to return for the upcoming rally and bring new people with them. and so law enforcement has made it clear that what they will need to do will be significantly more than what they did earlier this year if they want to keep people safe and prevent the type of violence that led to the deaths and injuries of police offic

even eugene debs, he runs five times for president. in 1908, he returns from prison, where he's been jailed for actions to do with the strike he was involved in. inflammatory statements he supposedly made. but even he, he's not staging a revolution. he's running for president. right? even that, he's not bombing people like what maybe happened at hay market. he's part of the system, too. i brought up senator albert beverage from indiana, the proponent of imperialism who was an important voice for roosevelt in the senate when roosevelt was president. and he said this about roosevelt. he said that theodore roosevelt's brilliance was in differentiating that species of anarchism which we popularly term boll sha victim of, so isolating it from that form normal progress called progress -- called liberalism. so, i guess in modern term, we would cal that a liberal, not a rad. not sure i'm ready to call him a liberal, but i think you see the analogy there. by making capitalism safe for the individual and less monopolistic, but making urban life

for the "the new york times" and former democratic senator from the great state of new jersey and eugeneobinson, pulitzer columnist for the "the washington post" we'll start with your beat. what do we know about these meetings today, how they went and the fix joe biden finds himself in presently? >> well, he is in a fix because he has gambled so much of his presidency on this very narrow window that got in front of us the next few weeks. this 3.5 trillion bill isn't just about spending. it's as if fdr put his entire deal into one bill. it's not just spending. it's on free community college for students, child care for parents, climate legislation. he wanted to include immigration legislation. what he's finding is the real trouble is within his own party, among his own democrats. he will tell you what the white house will tell you is this is just a stage. every time it looks like the train is about to crash into another train, the tracks change and things get back on course. and this will in fact, also head towards a resolution that they think will be acceptable. they can't tell us how th

and i was like i wonder if home act is involved in the and low and behold, it was so eugenics, i knewthat progressive social politics and social scientists in the first part of the 20the century were really into eugenics, horrible as ida's and i was like it probably was eugenics and home act as well, let me look for and then i knew where it might show up and it was there, john harvey kellogg connection so i have that moment of i'm not making that up, it really is there. they really were involved in the traffic. >> we have another question here that says my high school had vocational but no home economics classes, is there a relationship between economics and trade school. >> absolutely and i am surprised your school does not have home act because this is something i try to bring out in the book, home economics is from a was and always has been vocational education and it was from the start. when the federal government began funding vocational education both in high school and training teachers and colleges in the 19 tens, home was the only field they recognize for women. home act got

century were really eugenics as as that is and there probably was eugenics and hoh as well and let mego look for it and they knew where it might show up and it was there.up it was a john harvey kellogg connection. and i really had that moment of i'm not making this up. it really is there. they really were involved in it. >> we have another question here. my high school had a -- but no home economics classes. is there a relationship between home economics and trade school? >> absolutely and i'm surprised your school did not have home economics. this is something that i tried to bring out in the book that home economics is, was the noise has been vocational education and it was that from the start so when the federal government began funding vocational educational and high schools in training teachers and colleges in the 1910s hoh was the only feel theywa recognize for women. hoh got started in colleges and shortly after that vocational training.nist revolution in the growing number of women working outside the it was to turn around and double back down. voso for instance teachers and h

reporting here on the set, eugene scott, eugene, thankou for being here.ere make between the top military officials in the white house with what happened on the withdrawal of afghanistan. it's shot so surprising tha members of the pentagon wanted to keep a presence about that. talk toss about that. >> well, i think what many people wanted to know after that hearing, that press briefing is whether or not biden can be trusted to share or listen to e advice of the top pentagon leaders. of course, the white house said that they did and continue to do it. but what will i think a lot of people don't seem t understand just becau he makes a decisn that may discove from one individu doesn meaou're disrarding your adve overall. although wean be criticalf the president, and tt's what weaw from lawmakers on the right and will likely see today. >> certainly, we know preside biden well before he took offic was looking to move troops out afghanistan. that's a long-held position, he told others he felt that president obama was almost bulld by the pentagon to keep e troops

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joining us are nbc news correspondent lee ann kald well, shannon pettypiece and white hous reporter eugene daniel. let's start with this strategy shift frompeaker pepelosi, her decision to muscle ahead with the infrastructure bill without the spending bill in tow, which is a pledge she made this summer, to pass both at the same time. help us to understand why and is there any sign that she'll be able to bring her party together in time for thursday's vote? >> reporter: jeff, so speaker pelosi's explanation is that she made a commitment to the moderates to hold a vote on this bipartisan infrastructure bill the week of september 27th. so she has to maintain that commitment. but there is some politics that are involved here, too. speaker pelosi is well aware that president biden needs a win, he needs a win in his agenda, he needs something to help him with voters and he knows that -- she knows that this bipartisan infrastructure bill will do just that. but the problem is, does she actually have the votes to pass this bipartisan infrastructure bill, especially, as you mentioned in your lead, t

>> eugene robinson is right.ampaign zero have done a lot of work on substantive police reform. and what they have found is, aside with all of this, work what we found is that on a large, broad base level, particularly in the states, especially here in washington, d.c. republicans agree that we do not want to derek chauvin, we want to make it illegal to put a knee on next, but they do want to bring -- they might want criminal justice reform, i think they are okay with reducing some of the sentencing and legalizing marijuana, even, in some places. but they really don't want broadbased police reform because they do not want to touch qualified immunity, that eugene robinson othered stew, they'd want to touch looking at the actual police union protection or the police union contracts that really insulate police officers from a lot of really atrocious behavior. i think that we saw that this weekend in washington d.c. with tim scott having to pull out on negotiations because they don't want real reform. they don't walk

eugene robinson and susan del percio, both are msnbc analysts. thanks for being with us.re are a lot people who fully know that republicans at state level have been attempting feints or real attempts to restrict abortion for some years now. but this surprised a lot of people. something that feels very much like a total ban on abortion could get past the supreme court. >> absolutely, ali. it's sending shock waves, especially to a lot of the republicans who may have said yes, i'm pro-life but roe v. wade is law of the land and they also believed in exceptions to incest and rape which this law does not have. this is the harshest law i think republicans could ever see coming and at this point i think even some republicans are going to have a hard time getting behind it come 2022. >> eugene, you made interesting point today, on the day that roe v. wade took effect, january 22nd, 1973, you're a reporter, something else happened that day, and you in the newsroom with your colleagues were having discussion about the coverage of it. >> i was in college, working for my college news

what is he doing, eugene? >> i mean, one of the things that the president, former president trump, did over and over and over is to test the limits of how far other people will go to protect him because his loyalty is often one lane. it goes toward him and not always the other way. and so as you said kevin mccarthy is saying don't comply with these subpoenas. at some point whether it's in 2022 or later, the republicans are going to hold the house. and so what does that mean for the investigation that he wants to do? i think you're right saying you're messing with your own power and kevin mccarthy and swalwell said he's trying to make sure his relationship with president trump continues. he thinks they're going to win in 2022 in the midterms. he wants to be majority leader. he has to do whatever he can even if it means going back -- going on the opposite of what he said months ago to do whatever can he to make sure that president trump, his allies on the trump base sees him as someone who supports donald trump

there's eugenics. knew that progressive social politics in social sciences in the first part of the 20th century were really into eugenics as horrible as that is. and i was like, well there probably was eugenics in home economics as well and once i knew where it might show up it was there. there was the john kellogg connection. so yes, i really had that moment ofi'm not making this up. it really is there. they really were involved in spacesuits .>> you can thank them. we have another question here that is my high school had a vocational but no home economicsclasses. is there a connection between home economics and trade schools ?>> there is and i'm surprisedyour school did not have home economics in the vocational icwing . this is something i tried to bring out in the book is home economics is, was and always l has beenvocational education . it was that from the start. when the federal government began funding vocational education both inhigh schools and training teachers in colleges in the 1910s, home

well there probably was eugenics in home ec as well. let me look for it. i knew where it might show up, and it was there. a john harvey kellogg connection, so yeah, it was just -- i really had that moment of like i'm not making this up. it really is there. they were really involved. >> we have another question here that says my high school had a vocational -- but no home economics classes, is there a relationship between home economics and trade schools? >> absolutely, and i'm really surprised that your school did not have home ec in vocational because -- so this is something that i tried to bring out in the book is that home economics is, was, and always has been vocational education. >> uh-huh. >> and it was that from the start. so when the federal government began funding vocational education, both in high schools and, you know, training teachers in colleges in the 1910s, home ec was the only field they recognized for women. home ec got started in black colleges and then shortly thereafter land grant colleges as vocational training.

joe biden has spoken directly with chinese lay this eugene paying for the 1st time in nearly 7 months. the phone conversation was niecy, initiated by the us president discussions come at a low point in china us relations. but in told she both ladies need to ensure competition does not v into conflict. katrina, you has more from jean. this phone call is hugely significant. so far we've got scant details about what exactly was discussed, but both sides are saying so far that it was a broad discussion. now bridging has released a statement, a very brief one saying that washington initiated the colon invited gigi and ping to speak with joe biden. and that it was an in depth and extensive strategic communication on issues of common concern. now, where yet to see whether there was any concrete outcomes or actions to come out of this phone call, but it is a very positive sign. me mar joe biden has announce sweeping new federal cove at 19 vaccine requirements evicting as many as 100000000 american workers infections surging and driven by the delta variance, especially among those refusing to

army veteran eugene bazzi is using a garbage can to cap tower gator working around his house and the watch, you think how is this going to go? watch this move right here when he pulls it unjust like that and oh, should and the very end he gives the top a tabernacle tap. >> i loved it, well done, eugene, well done. >> jesse: on monday, i was at the 28th annual golf club honoring the family, long island alzheimer's and dementia center in west burry. a centers where they have day program that provides hands on services and programs to people diagnosed with alzheimer's, other forms of dementia. you know how that can be a struggle if you know someone or family members afflicted with that disease. it's really tough. i want to thank everybody involved with that go to l.i. dementia.org for more information. >> are you becoming like the go to charity golf guy? >> jesse: dana, as you know i don't take off for my birthday i take off for charity. >> dana: and your foundation. >> jesse: which will be up and running shortly. dagen? >> dagen: golf? how about running, jesse. running against sandra s

>> joining me is eugene robinson. donna edwards, and farnan -- i get all sorts of hate mail, but death threats are another thing. that has been skyrocketing since last year. i want to play this sound from speaker pelosi. >> -- a temple for democracy for the world. >> nancy pelosi said, people have been after me all along, but this is not normal for everybody else. >> many of us started doing in-person meetings as a result of those threats, but what we're seeing now has escalated well beyond what we experienced back in that time, in the 2008, 2010, 2012 time frame. you know, you have members of congress, anthony gonzalez, who said he was leaving because of the toxic, and so many other members. it was tough to protect herself. >> it's strange to think there was ever a time -- there's always been people unhappy. you can go back to 200 years in history, but the why the of overt actions seems to be part and parcel for the current gop. >> from a polling perspective, who out there a watching this, and says, you know what? is

and as horrible as that is i was like it probably was eugenics and home back as well, let me go looknew where it might show up and it was there which was in the john harvey kellogg connection. had the moment of like, i'm not making this up it really is there. they really were involved in space food. >> we have another question here that says my high school had a vocational lang but no home go home economics classes in their relationship between home economics and trade schools? >> absolutely and i'm really surprised that your school did not have home economics in vocational because this is something that i tried to bring out in the book is that home economics is was and always has been occasional education. it was that from the start. when the federal government began funding vocational education in high schools and training training teachers and colleges in the 1910 home economics was the only field they recognized for women, home economics got started in black colleges and then shortly thereafter land-grant colleges as vocational training. then one of the ways that home economics r

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also with us, eugene robinson, columnist for the washington post and msnbc political analyst. dan, you are a veteran of this war that is now officially over in terms of american involvement. what was your reaction to what the president had to say? >> i appreciated the president taking responsibility and i thought, particularly stating, the reasons why we needed to and in this forever war. and the reasons why this evacuation, this inevitable conclusion, has been the right thing to do, despite the difficulty. he spoke the truth to the american people that three previous administrations refused to do. >> dan, let me zero in on a tactical point, given your experience in the country. that is, the department saying that if we had started this earlier, if we had decided to do a massive beer lift bare lift, there would have been an overwhelming surge of people trying to get out, as soon as that first move towards a major evacuation occurred. do you agree with that? >> yeah. i think honestly that's a better question for a diplomat, someone who had spent years working with the afghan go