that is the way the court has conducted itself, and justice brier has been a big pro of that. the court senior liberal, going out and talking to groups, that it is this beacon of democracy. that goes to the question of: how much longer is justice brier going to be around on the supreme court? there has been a lot of pressure from people on the left that he would step down while president biden could nominate. it has definitely declined, but it hasn't taken the kind of hits that other things have. some people say if they return roe, it would weaken -- >> brennan: but justice -- >> if they upheld roe, tthe, quote, "lawless addiction" -- but the supreme court doesn't have an army to get it decisions. it relies on the public support. >> brennan: do we assume this is a republican-controlled cents, republican-controlled house in 2022? >> i think republicans assume that. on the house side, it is really not that hard. there are only five seats they have to flip to get back in power. very often you will hear house republicans speaking to nancy pelosi as a lame-duck vote. so they're mea

. >> justice brier countered that argument. they believe a lot of different things. what is worrying me is that if the state must give money to the schools, they're going to get in to all kinds of religious disputes. >> parents that have yanked their kids out of public schools say that school choice right now is more important than ever. listen. >> we saw what was taught in the classrooms. parents are not happy. >> it was an eye opener for a lot of parents that just assume when you send your kids through the two doors every day that it's focused on math, science, reading, writing, history. >> now, nationwide enrollment in public schools is down 3%. more than 1.5 million kids taken out of the public school system. martha, public kindergarten enrollment is down 9%. preschool enromment is down 22%. >> martha: thanks, gillian. betsy devos joins me now. great to have you with us. thanks for being here. i want to start by getting in this piece of audio from justice kavanaugh. listen to this. >> i understand they're seeking equal trea

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what was most poignant was justice stephen brier. he implored this court not to overturn precedent saying it could look purely political to the public. here is what he said. >> the overrule under fire in the absence of the most compelling reason, to reexamine a watershed decision, would subvert the court's legitimacy beyond any serious question. >> reporter: so youity breyer as he had in previous speeches really warning that the court's legitimacy in the public view is at stake here. of course, the justices will have to consider this abortion ban essentially from mississippi. it bans practically all abortions after 15 weeks, and the attorneys for the abortion clinic here say that is clearly in conflict with supreme court precedent roe v wade. case, these arguments are still going on. we're now hearing the conservative justices speak a lot more now that the lawyers for the abortion provider is speaking and making those arguments. but big stakes here, hundreds of protesters outside the supreme court. a big decision that has really illu

justice brier was among the three liberal justices that said they were worried about overturning a precedenta political decision. here's what he said. >> feelings run high. it is particularly important to show what we do in overturning a case is grounded in principle and not social pressure. not political pressure. >> but justice kavanaugh was among those that said hey, listen, we've done this before when the court thought we got something wrong, something wrong in our past. it was a despicable decision and now we have progressed and we need to correct it. a list of decisions that will prove the cord will do it. here's more what justice kavanaugh said. >> if we think that the prior precedents are seriously wrong, if that, why then doesn't the history of this court's practice with respect to those cases tell us the right answer is the return to the position of neutrality and not stick with those precedents in the same way that the other cases didn't? >> we'll have to see if there's a majority of justices willing to go further. not only withholding the mississippi ban, which sounds like you ca

kenneth robinson, pastor of brier creek baptist church in south carolina was told in april his predominantly black church one of several attacked in 2015 remains on edge to this day. trauma is a way of life for us, he said. trauma cannot, must not be a way of life for americans. domestic terrorism is not new. it arises from hatred and divisions as old and america. and we are all aware its victims come disproportionately from minority and marginalized communities, but it is evolving and expanding fueled by disinformation and amplified on social media. we, too, must evolve to meet this threat and to effectively counter this threat we have to name it. we have to understand it. we need to understand the drivers of domestic terrorism so we can stop it. deeply important to stopping this threat is how we go about preventing it. fighting terrorist violence is only one side of the ledger, one part of the balance that must be struck. we must ensure that. as we rise to meet the challenge of domestic terrorism, we do so in a way that protects civil rights and civil liberties. folks, this is a long-stand

justice briere? justice breyer: in reading ex parte young, i got the impression the enforcement mechanism was private shippers or passengers who were supposed to assume, the railroad. the attorney general didn't have direct power. he had a kind of residual power. i looked up up the texas statute and it seems the attorney general has the same kind of residual power. it was hard to see that in ex parte young, but they say this attorney general with just the residual power, we can go sue him. then all your problems would in that case they didn't appear and it turned out that statute, nobody enforced. because it had been said to be unconstitutional in the a.g.'s case is there a difference i overlooked? mr. stone: even given all those provisions, your honor, nonetheless this court in ex parte young described a violation. in this case the attorney general has no connection whatsoever not even and attenuated one to the enforcement of s.b. 8. chief justice roberts: justice alito. justice alito: what can you