of further cases like this. you know, at some point you have to listen to science and the scientists, and that's not the case here. the national academy of sciences, the senate foreign relations committee, they interviewed mostly believers. where are the skeptics? the national academy of sciences didn't interview many of the skeptics. the prominent skeptics who had been speaking on this case and the same with the senate foreign relations committee. and there's this misunderstanding out here that mass cycle genic illness is somehow some kind of mental disorder or recalling people crazy. it is absolutely not the case. and people, i would assume i need somehow dealing with that because after all are being posted somewhere, overseas is indeed a stressful job. and maybe if people are so susceptible to those theories, maybe they need help. now i have time for just one question and i want to ask you about the media because i know that before your single out the media as a, as a main driver and amplifier of the psychogenic illnesses. and it's very interesting that the point of view made that people are now wanting in line now using social med

i mean, if you look at the national academy of sciences report, which came out and december of 2020, you would expect that to be a dispassionate scientific analysis. if you look at the people on that panel, they had no experts on mass that could genic illness and they had no experts on pulse microwave radiation, which were the 2 main explanations that they were looking at. a friend of mine, simon wesley akins college, london was initially on that panel. he is a world authority, a mass like genic illness. he gave an interview and what you stated that he thought it was possible that mass cycle genic illness could explain what was going on based on what he had seen. after that, they kicked him off the panel. so what you're seeing here is a mixture of science and politics. the other thing that's interesting is pamela spry, one, the former ambassador to a couple of different countries was name by joe biden. as the head of the panel investigating a van, a center on the u. s. government. and recently she was on a zone call with several a van, a syndrome patients. and one of them asked her,

why was the national academy of sciences's document released when those documents were also inconclusiveter: natasha, very last word to you. in the last 30 seconds of the program, if this is a weapon, it is an amazing weapon. and i use the word amazing advisedly. the next iteration of this weapon, what might it be capable of doing? natasha: i think that's the scary thing is the unknown. it might be capable of being a leash on a larger population -- unleashed on a larger population. and that would really disable a big portion of the public if they were able to leash it on a much greater part of the population. and i think that's one of the unknowns that makes this so incredibly scary because we have people retiring from their jobs that they were really passionate about because they been so disabled by this mysterious syndrome. peter: ok, we must leave it there. thank you to our guests, robert bartholomew, natasha lynn stat, and glenn. thank you for watching. you can see the show anytime via our website. and for questions, go to our facebook page. you can also join the conversation on twit

ah, incompetence really and look that you have the national academy of sciences. our panel, no one invited us to present on that panel. you had a panel that was essentially loaded with believers and not skeptics. this is a clear case of politics being mixed with science. and whenever that happens, the outcome is not good. i'm sure professor baldwin, i would love to speak before the senate foreign relations committee and explain more as to what's been going on here. and the other issue here is the symptoms of havana syndrome are so vague as to be experienced by any human being who has ever lived at any weak of their life, headache, nausea, dizziness for t, difficulty concentrating, forgetfulness, confusion tonight is insomnia. and so when you issue an alert around the world for symptoms of havana syndrome in there, so vague you are going to get a deluge of people reporting similar symptoms. well, let me ask dr. beller about this. i mean, we did see studies backing up claims of directed energy injuries. what do you make of them while they were false, simpler for the

but we sort of know one of the fundamentals, i mean, the national academy of sciences' recent report next over the next decade in space exploration... by the way, we do that each decade, it's one of the things we are proudest of. it's called a decadal survey. i know. we get together and say let's prioritise ten years' of money. i know. and here's what they lay out for this one. they say, "the coming decades are going to set humanity down a path to determine whether we are alone." yes, we're going to get an answer in the sense that, i don't know if we're alone, but in every way we can imagine we're not alone we are going to perform experiments to test it. and that's what's going to unfold over the next years. and it seems to be... on mars and on the icy moons ofjupiter, where beneath, it's kept warm from stress from jupiter's gravity and the tugging of other moons, deep beneath the frozen surface there's oceans of liquid water. and every place on earth we have liquid water, we have life. so one of nasa's mantras, and the european space agency, among others in this group, is follow the

why was the national academy of sciences document release when those documents were also inconclusive? natasha very last word to you in the next 30 seconds of the program. if this is a weapon, it is an amazing weapon and i use the word amazing. advisedly. the next iteration of this weapon, what might it be capable of doing? i think that's the scary thing is the unknown, the right be capable of being on leash on a larger population. and that would really disable a big portion of, of the public if they're able to to, to leash it on a much greater part of the population. and i think that's one of the knows that makes this so incredibly scary because we have people retiring from their jobs that they were really passionate about because they've been so disabled by this mysterious syndrome. ok, we must leave it there. thank you to, i guess they were robert bartholomew, natasha and stuff, and glen call and thank you to for watching. you can see the show again anytime bureau website out to 0 dot com and for more discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha in

the national academy of sciences have said they think it's some sort of directed energy weapon.e '60s where we know the russians were using microwaves against our people. there were hearings in the late '70s in the senate, our senate, that the russians were bombarding our microwaves and we don't know what kind of impact. >> there are going to be people who -- i know you won't be offended by this -- hear tin foil hat talk. how do you convince them what you're describing here, the cia is involved in some conspiracy, it goes back decades, the government is covering it up, that there is something here that needs to be exposed. >> we filed another lawsuit for intelligence that existed in writing since 2012 about an adversary that was using a microwave weapon -- this was an nso document -- that was used to maim or kill a victim overseas without evidence. i get information all the time that a fedex guy was impacting them. something clearly was impacting them, but i don't think it's foreign government attacks. i'm talking about technology that has been used, not necessarily to impact, b

national academy of sciences says no detectable benefit at all from the lockdowns. n poverty. this is probably one of the worst ideas ever to hit this country. one of the dumbest, most arrogant top down things we've ever seen. what do you say, kevin? >> i agree. you know at the beginning there was so much uncertainty so i can understand taking a pause for a week or two but as you might recall, president trump, after i had left the white house brought me back into the west wing to help him plan the economic response and one of the first things i did was go to the task force meeting in the situation room to make a presentation of economic effect the of shutting down the economy. i can remember, maybe early march, i gave them a presentation where i said you know, gdp in the second quarter will drop more than 30%. it will be the biggest drop since the great depression. i looked around the room. everybody there was you know pale in the face because they didn't really understand the harm they were doing except for tony fauci. tony fauci looked at vice president to finish w

. >>> the national academies of sciences engineering and medicine estimates 8 million metric tons ofhe ocean each year that is the same as dumping an entire gashrbage truck of plastc into the ocean every minute. but a marine skient tibt in california is working on a repurpose of ocean plastics into something beautiful. nbc lx reporter greg bletso with that story. >> there is about essentially a garbage truck worth of plastic dumped in the ocean every minute my name is ethan, i am an ocean artist and marine scientist. this is my workshop in santa cruz, my hometown. i stockpile tons of old fishing gear that i use to make artwork. yeah this stuff's pretty. i keep a lot of junk around. all of this is full. some of it is stained by its life at sea. this came off a beach in malibu. my specialty stuff right here. this is -- nice, nice lady in florida sent me this cool net. every one of these ropes has a story. it's -- it's abundant. a lot of the plastic in the ocean comes from commercial fisheries. they illegally dump it at sea and it is a pretty big problem because it is also the most dang

stover is an elected member of the national academy of sciences and the former president of the american society of nutrition. the final witness this morning joins us remotely from wisconsin. she is a senior fellow and a rhodes scholar in poverty studies at the american enterprise institute where she studies poverty and the effects of the federal safety net programs on low income people in america. it specializes in support programs for low income families including the temporary assistance for needy families. in the supplemental nutrition assistance program. she was a deputy commissioner for policy research in new york city department of social services. to each of our other witnesses for joining us this morning. >> fasten your seatbelts, these are extraordinary declarations of the state of american nutrition and i am excited about it. dr. mozaffarian, would you proceed with your testimony. dr. mozaffarian: chairman booker, ranking member braun, thank you for convening this hearing and for the opportunity to testify. it's our experiences cardiologist and as a doctor i see first-hand peo

stover is an elected member of the national academy of sciences and the former president of the american society of nutrition. our final witness this morning, dr. angela is joining us remotely from wisconsin. dr. rashidi is a senior fellow at the institute where she studies poverty and the effects of the federal safety net programs on low income people in america. she specializes in support programs for low income families including the temporary assistance for needy families, the child care and development bloc grant and the supplemental nutrition assistance program. before joining aei she was a deputy commissioner for policy research in new york city department of social services. thank you, doctor, and to each of our other witnesses for joining us this evening. >> all right, everyone, fasten your seat belts. i've read all the testimonies. these are extraordinary declarations of the state of our nutrition and i'm excited about them. so doctor, would you please proceed with your testimony? >> dear chairman booker, ranking member braun, and other distinguishes members of the committee th

recognized the importance of this effort and asked the faa to enter into an agreement with the national academy of science. the result of that study which we received in june made it clear there is more work to do although i will say many of the recommendations are consistent with faa's to get defensive and many others aligned with broader unveiling workforce development and recruitment efforts . finally one of the major components of our strategy is to maintain relationships and trust. this is critical critical for defending from a cyber attack and it's why we are a lead agency on the aviation initiative with dhs and dod and is why we work collectively to identify and assess risks in the ecosystem including stakeholdersranging from airport authority to manufacturers . the technology of the aviation ecosystem evolves we expect cyber security will continue to be a growing challenge and a significant component of aviation safety. we are prepared for this challenge and look forward to giving congressinformed . i'll be happy toanswer any questions . >> thank you mister grossman. you are recognized for five mi

. >> looking at the national academy of sciences studies in which they say, we cannot draw a conclusion about exposure to burn pits and conditions we are seeing, even within the studies what they really say is we have insufficient data. a lot of the problem is pentagon at dod do not have the sufficient data and the pot -- and the time has passed. so is there no way -- so there is no way to create a cohort study. with 9/11 we got fortunate in that the v.a. had a cohort study they had been doing prior to 9/11 so they had a perfect lineup of the date of exposure versus pre-data. by pentagon's own admission, the data they have is insufficient and will never be sufficient. so what we are doing is holding up the health care and benefits for veterans based on data that the pentagon has not been able to provide. and it will never get better. so i think that is the catch-22 we have placed the veterans in. because now they are forced to go and prove their own case. even if you smoked for 20 years and you got lung cancer and a doctor and medical board tried to make you prove that your lung cancer

. >> if i can just add look at the national academy of science studies in which they would say we can'ts about exposure and the conditions we are seeing , even within the studies with a really say is we have insufficient data. a lot of the problem is the pentagon and dod and that time has passed so there is no way to create a cohort study. the closest thing we have to go back to 9/11 is we get really fortunate that the line had a cohort study they had been doing prior to 9/11 so they had a terrific lineup of the data of exposure versus three data. >> by the pentagon's own admission what they had was insufficient to become sufficient. what we are doing is holding uph veterans healthcare and benefits based on data that the pentagon has not been able to provide and that will never get better. that is a catch-22 we put the veterans and because now they are forced to go in improve their own case. even if you smoked for 20 years if you got lung cancer and a doctor and the medical board tried to make you prove your lung cancer came from smoking somebody could say you lived in a city and you br

congress recognize the andrtance of this effort 2018 as the fa to energetically with the national academy of sciences to conduct the cybersecurity workforce study. results of a a study which we received in june made it clear there is more work to do. although i will say many of the recommendations are consist with fa cybersecurity strategic objectives and many others ofre i'm a broader unknowing faa workforce development and recruitment efforts. and finally one of the major components of our strategy is to maintain relationships and trust with our external partners. this is critical for defending and reacting and recovering from a cyber attack. why we are lead agency on the aviation cyber initiative interagency task force with dhs in dod. it's why we work to likely to identify cybersecurity risk in the aviation ecosystem. the ecosystem includes stakeholders ranging from airport authorities tois manufacturers. as technology of the aviation ecosystem evolves we expect cybersecurity will continue to be a growing challenge and a significant component of aviation safety and aerospace efficiency. we are pr

importance of that effort and in 2018 asked the faa to enter into an agreement with the national academy of science to adopt a cyber security workforce study. the result which we received in june made it clear there's more work to do although i will say many of the recommendations of the faa cyber security objective and many others aligned with the broader ongoing workforce development improvements. finally one of the major components of our strategy is to build and maintain relationships with our external partners. this is critical for defending and reacting and recovering from a cyber attack and it's why we are a lead agency on the aviation cyberinitiative , tax force with dod and it's why we work collectively to identify and address cyber security risks . the system includes stakeholders ranging from airport authority to manufacturers. as technology of the aviation coecosystem evolves we expect cyber security will continue to be a growing challenge and a significant component of aviation safety and efficiency. we are prepared for the challenge and arelooking forward to keepingthe committee infor

perceived poor prior treatment or because of the stigma law enforcement affairs outline in the national academy of sciences report. in the coming weeks, the independence fund will roll out the independence a line of professionally manned called center and hotline where both u.s. veterans seeking mental health care and afghans seeking refugee of assistance can call and get assistance. one thing that must be discussed is the role combat deployments may place on veterans suicide risk. for the u.s. army combat units operate at an incredibly brutal on -- the committee deployments every other year. in my case, 45% of the second i have years i spent an active duty were deployed to afghanistan, engaged in direct combat actions. the previous 2016 annual veterans suicide report was the only report i could find where the va is still reported on combat veterans suicides. well i detail these numbers in my written testimony, the data indicates that 18 to 24-year-old male cub deployed veteran suicide rates is two to three times higher than the overall veteran suicide rate and 67 times higher than the nonfederal overall s

of dollars. we just found out from a national proceeding to the academy of science about the quality of n-95 masksfficult to transmit the infection. we should have had this a long time ago. n.i.h. spent less than 5% of their budget when the pandemic hit on covid and the grants took five months just to get out the door. they had 250 grants in other aspects of covid and only one on masks. this is stuff where we needed information quickly. right now it's probably too little too late in terms of information. >> harris: just quickly so people know and can read about it online. if you are wearing n-95 or kn95 it takes 25 hours for covid to breach that if they are talking in close contact. you think they could have told us when they first learned that. you said something i think that will make news today, dr. makary, you said not the cdc, use your common sense which i would imagine also is coupled with talking with your own doctor. wow, that iced them right out. i think it makes news. >> you know, if you've been exposed or around a virus and around someone vulnerable wear a high qual fee mask. if you are

poor prior treatment or because of the stigma and law enforcement fears outlined in the national academy of sciences report. they will roll out the independent fund, a professionally called man center where u.s. veterans seeking health care and afghans seeking refugee assistance can call and get assistance. one thing that must be discussed is the role combat deployments may place on veteran suicide risk. they operate at a tempo with combat deployments every other year. 45% of the 6 1/2 years i spent on active duty were deployed to afghanistan engaged in direct action. the 2016 annual suicide report is the only one i can find where they reported on veteran suicide. the data indicates 18 to 24-year-old male combat deployed veteran suicide rate is two to three times higher than the overall veteran suicide rate and six to seven times higher than the nonveteran overall suicide rate. i discovered the same increase in the last 20 years of my written report where 18 to 24-year-old veterans make up 77% of the increase in veteran suicide but represent only 9% of the veteran population. our community needs to

between 2019 and 2021 and the american academy of pediatrics declared this is a national state of emergency yet chicago teachers ignore the stats and the scienceace are and what struggling kids and desperate parents fend for themselves. covid and the omicron variant sucks but so do a lot of things that shouldn't shutdown society. teachers demanded vaccines and they got them from a 90% of educators got the job and they've had at least 130 billing dollars to probably ventilate classrooms and do whatever necessary to deem their environment safe yet somehow with less lethal virus bobbing itself into submission and data conclusively shows children are safer in schools, these lazy ones went with union thugs and expected to families in chicago again, enough is enough. meghan had bernards to fire air traffic controllers they were responsible for keeping planes in the sky. joe biden should fire vacantly active teachers whose apparently on the correct keeping test scores low. white house talked of big game but if this is a destructive game of educational chicken the unions aren't flinching. they held a nation of backsliding learners hostage for almost t

scientific integrity is at the heart of it and vital to ensuring public trust in science and scientists but some ignore scientific integrity expose the report by the national academy of public administration. i am seeing more policy laws updated in january where it remains unclear where specifics were spent with the map of the report. explained that briefly. >> i take scientific if integrity seriously, i was at the bottom of those some 12 years ago when we had concerns. that policy was filled up as one of the better policies, i was not with the government when that policy was tested that you describe but but referencing that particular activity and see where that policy was lost so coming in as noaa administrator making sure we are actively participating in the effort being led by the president's science advisor to take best practices among federal agency and establishes them and develop a government wide approach to scientific integrity that is one thing, taking best of class programs if you will and the other is one of the things we learned was within the department of congress and noaa, our parent department we needed to see bolstering of policies as well so i

science and scientists. however, some deficiencies in noaa scientific integrity policy were exposed in a june 2020 report by the national academy of public administration following hurricane darian. the sharp gate incident. i understand that the noaa scientific integrity policy was updated in january but it remains unclear what specific steps noaa's taking to limit the recommendations from the napa report. can you explain that, briefly? dr. spinrad: i take scientific integrity very seriously. i was a co-author of the original scientific integrity policy some 12 years ago. we have series concerns or political influence on the science. the policy was held up as one of the examples of one of the better policies among federal agencies for many years. i was not with the government back when that policy was tested, a few years ago. the incident that you described. but all share -- i will share that i was outside complainant referencing the particular activity, and i saw where the integrity policy has some flaws, and so, coming in at the admin straighter, i making sure that we are actively participating in the effort being led by the pre

heart of noaa's work and is vital to ensuring the public's trust in federal science and scientists i have some deficiencies in some integrity -- exposed in the june 2020 report by the national academy following hurricane diary and the shark bait incident. i understand that noaa's scientific integrity policy was outdated in january but remains unclear what's specific steps nowhere is taking to implement the recommendations from the map napa report. can you explain that roughly? >> absolutely. i take scientific integrity seriously and i was in fact the coauthor of the original scientific integrity policy, some 12 years ago, we had serious concerns about political influence on the science. that policy was held up as one of the examples of one of the better. policies of federal agencies for many years. i was not with the government back when that policy was tested a few years ago. the incident you described, i will share with you that i was an outside complaint and referencing that particular activity, and i saw where the scientific integrity policy had flaws. coming in as a noaa administrator i'm making sure that we are actively participating in the effort being led by the president o

academy of pediatrics, recently declared a national state of emergency in children's health. what's really shocking about this is the party across the aisle claims to be the party of science. think the party across the aisle has forever forfeited the right to call themselves the party of science because nothing that they have done has been based in science. maybe political science, but not real science. here's the real science. the many changes to school routines are of questionable value in controlling the virus' spread. some researchers are skeptical that scol closures reduced covid cases in most instances. here we have the so-called party of science using unscientific rationale to shut down schools which we know are damaging kids. both from an education point of view and mental health point of view. damaging kids while having seark that up. here to explain more is representative moore from utah. i yield two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from utah is recognized for two minutes. mr. moore: i rise today to urge my colleagues to defeat the previous question so that we can immediately consider h.r. 682, the reopen schools act. as the father of four i know j