c of c n n. and saying, what about the war we want to see that covered? we want to hear about it. we want to understand, well, why the u. s. continues to supply weapons to saudi arabia that are killing children every day in yemen. so the media has not been very objective about covering wars, but i am glad that they are covering this war and ukraine. people have to see how horrific war is, and maybe they'll understand that all war is horrible. well, joe biden has previously expressed disquiet about the weapon sales by the united states. obviously, not so much disquiet here in britain for its role in the human war. and cnn probably say, well, that's a nato ally to area europe. this is why news from ukraine. let's take precedence over a wall where the you in says 377000. we've been killed in recent years and yemen. unfortunately the u. s. government and the biden administration says that it's going to stop who often said weapons sales to the saudis. but what does that mean? it doesn't mean anything. the u. s. is still involved in the war in yemen. and i want to mention afghanistan, because i'm just heartbroken that after 20 years of nato militarism in afghanistan with this horrific exit, the and people's money has been stolen by mostly the united states, $7000000000.00. and that's one of the poorest countries in the world. and so we are working hard to get that money back to the afghan people. and we're also very concerned about the sanctions on russia hurting ordinary people because we've seen that's what sanctions around the world do. they affect the entire economy and who is it who is impacted the most? it is working people. we seem for 60 years, how the u. s. has imposed horrific sanctions on cuba. it hasn't changed the cuban government, but it's closed such hardship for the cuban people. yeah, but the united states, as it's fighting terrorism, obviously in yemen, you don't have to be a major general or a person in power in nature. countries to say, all of russia must be punish, it's sad, but they just have to be punished as regards them. well, perhaps even food, who knows when it comes to the invasion. well, that's just wrong. i mean, the ordinary people have no say over their government. look at the thousands of very brave people who are coming out on the streets in russia to protest. there was governments war and say not in our name, and those people should not be hurt by it. so sanctions are a kind of economic warfare and unfortunately, they don't hurt the people in power. i think it's fine to go after the oligarchs in russia take their yachts. take your mansions, please do, but don't impose sanctions that are going to make people have a difficult time putting food on their plates or getting medicines. yeah, i think you've campaign before against russia. oligarchy, before the current sudden decision by everyone to realize the money was stolen from the russian people. what do you think of the arguments though, as you, as you talk about peace made in russian, russian think tank circles and people who pro kremlin saying, but, you know, russia did sort of piece in the go on a car back between now media as a by john, in georgia, in syria after all the u. s. interventions, this is just merely to could secure peace in ukraine after the killing of 14000 people in the some provinces is a piece operation. oh, come on. when you see hundreds of thousands of people living. when you see that kind of destruction that's going on, this is not a piece operation. this isn't a offensive or illegal invasion of another sovereign country. it is absolutely wrong. and i think all peace activists, those of us who stand up against the invasion of iraq against the invasion of afghanistan, those of us who stand up against the u. s. supplying of weapons to dictatorships, like egypt or the israeli apartheid regime. we have to be consistent and we have to be against this invasion as well. i call on all peace activist or people who are, are just a peace loving people throughout the world to get around the streets and to join in demonstrations. and in our actions, we say withdraw the russian troops, we say sci fi, or now we also say no nato expansion, because we think that the absolutely essential when it comes to the negotiating table and there are ongoing negotiations and there have to be more, what is going to be compromised between the 2 sides and the u. s. nato side. there has to be a compromise that says we will not allow ukraine to be part of nato. i wish that there were people now like in the, by the ministration saying that i wish they would be saying we've got to get serious about nuclear weapons in the world. it should be terrified right now that brushes nuclear weapons are on high alert, but it should also be a moment where we say, why haven't we force the world, the world's leaders who have nuclear weapons to comply with their obligations. there now is a nuclear band. treaty at the united nations and mission moment where we say we demand as a community of people who do not want to see our globe annihilated by nuclear weapons. that there be a serious end to nuclear weapons by all the nuclear states. when the russia was saying that the ripping up of some of those nuclear gorgeous part of the reason for the invasion, which as you say, and as the humans agreed, general says, is inexcusable, or was he israel would you mention that denies isn't about, i'd say, despite whatever and years like yourself or amnesty international say actually come to think of it. what did you think of israel voting with the u. s. at the un general assembly, the u. s. i don't know when the last time the u. s. has paid attention to view in general assembly, but what did you think of israel voting with the us about how this occupation should be deplored? well, of course they always vote with the us, but there certainly is also a moment to talk about the invasion and occupation of other people's lands. we have to look at the israelis actions for decades now in palestine. and it's interesting that so many in the social media are putting out videos that show the tremendous repression and, and beating, and explosions, and the west bank and comparing it to what the russians are doing. we think this is a time where all aggression should be exposed. and i only hope that as we work towards demanding negotiations in a settlement, in the case of ukraine, that we also look at ongoing words in other places and demand the same thing an end to war. why do you think that boy called davis when sanctions movement failed when it comes to the illegal occupation in palestine mandated under you in relational? and yet, as we know from the cultural sector, which is being mand across europe, and in the 2 countries from russia, it seems to work almost instantly in a football match. it no longer is it considered it wrong to put the ukraine flag on the pitch. whereas once it was wrong to put the palestinian flag on it football pitch to express already. yes, we are find it very hypocritical that there has been so many attacks on the b b. s . movement in the western countries saying that it is not fair to attack the entire country of israel that that's anti semitic. and then suddenly it's ok to attack people who want to compete in the special olympics as if those people had something to do with pollutants invasion. so there's a lot of hypocrisy on all sides. but let me be clear, i think that it is a positive thing that the world community is coming together and saying stop this invasion, looking at ways that we can through non violence. i look at the way that the russian people came and stopped the tanks from a getting into the largest nuclear plant in europe, that's in ukraine. and that was quite inspirational. and i think it would be wonderful if people in neighboring countries rose up non violently and went to the borders around russia. and i demanded an end to the fighting. just as people are reaching out to all of those refugees who so deserve our support. and speaking of refugees, so new, all refugees deserve our is for support. whether they are coming from country where people have white skin and blonde hair, or they're coming from countries in africa or their country coming from countries on the southern border here in the united states. where they have been ripped, apart from their fan release, and at times put in cages, we should welcome all refugees who are fleeing from violence as regards the tanks by the nuclear facility, getting there, answer the questions in ukraine. but as far as we hear from authorities in the use of the said, but these are refugees, the, the ones of different colors are migrant. yes, it's a horrible separation to make and i think the world has seen the terrible racism of from the people of color in ukraine that have had such a hard time leaving the country of but i think it also does show the property of making it so difficult for people of color who try to flee, even in the case of afghanistan, where you would think that the u. s. and all the nato countries would feel a tremendous obligation to take people from afghanistan in the immediate aftermath of the withdrawal. and they said they were going to, but then they've gone back on their promises and it's become very difficult for afghans who worked with the nato forces to even leave the country where they have been doing. thank you. the bleakest warning yet on climate change that is close to irreversible. we talk to an i v c. c author about the latest reported to how humanity may and even if there isn't nuclear war. awesome. all can we have about 2 of going underground? ah ah welcome back to the industry leaders and government officials are meeting with the start of the annual 5 day serra week energy conference with you as climate envoy, john kerry, and ceo's of exxon mobil and chevron shed. you want to speak this days after the release of the new i b. c. c report that examines how humanity is entering uncharted territory in the climate crisis. joining me now from cape town to discuss that report is one of its alters locks on voc go, thanks so much luck on for coming on. you know, obviously here in your people are talking about babs, no immediate deliverable future on this continent. i know you specialized in africa, but that how rapidly closing is the window to secure a livable future as it says in the late as i d z assessment 1st, i think maybe to just give a big grant a key findings from a recent repor
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