no, no other aids or anything occasionally pat buchanan might go if there is a big speech or ray price one of the other speech writers, but for the most part it was just the two of us criss crossing the nation doing political events and so forth and for a young man, like myself who at this time is 26 years old at that juncture, you know, it was just one phenomenal education. today that role is sort of known white and well known as a body man. i think in those days when the media was just travel was becoming easier and politics was picking up into a media enterprise the role of the young assistant was new then so i don't know that you were present at the creation, but you were among those present at the creation of that. and working with him and observing him was really it was a master class both in psychology and in retail politics in the book you talk about some of the rules he had like about dinners and introductions and the time hats and i did a schedule one time and this is the buzzer went off. and he i walk into his office and he says dwight. it says here that after dinner. i danc

interviewed him in the philippines in the '90s and i remember a book when i was in college that pat buchanan wroempt i think the title was something along the lines "the death of the west," right, how dying populations and immigrant invasions imperil our country. the title of the book, i started wondering wait a second, like how were immigrants -- by the way, aren't we calling immigrants essential workers during this pandemic? aren't they the very people that we depend on for labor in this country, and yet they are the very people that we are now saying are replacing us, right? so for us to define american, how do we actually look at the messages? they are not getting it from tucker. young people of don't watch fox news. >> right. >> i rather the first time i bhaerd the anti-immigrant videos i was at an event at the university of miami and a young student who was a young republican because i talk to as many young republicans said he saw an anti-immigrant video on praguer u. i didn't know what it was. i didn't know it was a $50 million funded anti-immigrant machine, and this young man that i

want to point everyone to president trump referred to being proactive, president trump is not a pat buchananjacksonian more like a peace through strength that reagan type of doctrine. if we are projecting weakness were not taking action to defend our allies and defend strategic assets we are projecting weakness and inviting provocation and inviting eventually war which is what we saw in ukraine to resolve the disastrous situation in afghanistan which killed 13 service members. and now we are seeing confusing policy toward taiwan where we need to defend it taiwan. you had some of your guests on earlier talking about energy. a lot of our technology are produced in taiwan. they have been an important diplomatic ally in terms of economy. we have a taiwan relation which is a little bit vague pretty think we need to be really clear. sean: too that point there are lessons learned coming out of you create is the lesson we are supposed to be arming taiwan to the teeth of a disincentive for china to invade? >> well, we are actually providing. we said we will come to the defense of taiwan that is in th

we have a letter that pat buchanan wrote a memo to president nixon saying that there was value in opposing row, but it really begins in earnest after she takes over the national right to life committee in 1976, and i don't want to spend too much time because we'll run out of time. but you say she was ultimately forced out of her position leading it. does she get enough credit in the history books for the role. she played not at all. what was fascinating to me about dr. jefferson? and also we mentioned linda coffee and i argue a third person as well in the book dr. curtis boyd. these people are incredibly important and yet all but unknown and she needs to be known. she's a very important person and we see sort of the the results of her work all these years later with the upcoming sort of overturning. i think we would all agree of row and she really laid the laid the foundation for that. i'll just add the pro-life committee a community. they look at her as sort of this saint of their movement because she left the heights of her medical profession we mentioned she was the first black woman to

cap you can and said the numbers are dwindling -- pat buchanan said the numbers are dwindling.ou are just worried about y'all's numbers going down. host: eleanor in georgia? caller: i'm here. thank you for taking my call. i really appreciate c-span for your excellent coverage on the abortion issue. that is why i am calling. i was very happy to hear about the results on the senate vote the other day. i believe in the sanctity of life. a human life is precious. an abortion is not the answer. we should go back to the time where women took responsibility for their actions. in most cases, in most cases weber do have a choice. -- women do have a choice. that is just prior to conception. in today's world we concentrate on what to do after a woman gets pregnant rather than before. rather than educating men on abstinence, personal responsibility and the option for adoption. we all make mistakes in life. we must not expect the taxpayer to find our mistakes -- fund our mistakes and lives to be dissolved because of that one action. host: another medianews, c-span is featured in politico ma

recite backlash with people like pat buchanan. now we are saying that backlash in the republican starting with donald trump cash in the republican party -- in the republican party with donald trump. you can say what you want about the republican party team the party of the rich, but with an increasing -- but today there is an increasing amount of working class people looking to the republican party. i think that is paradigm of the republican party being business is a throwback to a bygone area -- bygone era. host: we have news from the hill which says that trump endorses doug casiano for savanna governor. house democrats have subpoenaed five gop house members, including mccarthy. i want to get your take on that. do you think they should be cooperating with those subpoenas? guest: i think they should. first of all, i think january 6 was horrific. whether you want to call it an insurrection or a riot, whatever terminology you want to call it, i think it is very bad. listen to things that mitch mcconnell and representative mccarthy s

recite backlash with people like pat buchanan. right now we are saying that backlash in the republican starting with donald trump cash in the republican party -- in the republican party with donald trump. you can say what you want about the republican party team the party of the rich, but with an increasing -- but today there is an increasing amount of working class people looking to the republican party. i think that is paradigm of the republican party being business is a throwback to a bygone area -- bygone era. host: we have news from the hill which says that trump endorses doug casiano for savanna governor. house democrats have subpoenaed five gop house members, including mccarthy. i want to get your take on that. do you think they should be cooperating with those subpoenas? guest: i think they should. first of all, i think january 6 was horrific. whether you want to call it an insurrection or a riot, whatever terminology you want to call it, i think it is very bad. listen to things that mitch mcconnell and representative mcca

and buchanan pat doesn't run for president in 1988. he waits until 1992. because he recognizes smartly that reagan's successor is probably going to be george hw bush who is not a reaganite. no. who was establishment republican? and so then we get the fight between the establishment republicanism represented by bush. and buchanan in 1992 representing the populist wayne. representing the resurgence of the old right in its attitudes toward war and its attitudes toward immigration and then really beginning in the in buchanan's 96 campaign picking up the trade issue becoming more protectionist. so that debate is had. but buchanan never is successful. and in 2000, of course, he leaves the republican party. and he runs for president on the reform ticket. where one of his rivals is a businessman named donald trump? and i think you canon is the first to recognize the irony 16 years later. trump would ascend to the presidency? on many of the ideas that he was lambasting buchanan about just in the 2000 cycle, but so at the time at the moment, i do think the argument