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back with me now, kaitlan collins, paul callan and cnn's dana bash.y on the conversations around the 25th amendment, what does that tell you about where the committee is -- what path the committee is headed down now as it's now kind of entering this next chapter. >> so much of what we've seen is about connecting the dots and giving new information and testimony about what actually happened in the past on january 6th and what it means for donald trump as -- as a president. looking at the 25th amendment and the notion that some of his cabinet members were effectively thinking about or talking about the idea that he was so dangerous that they should invoke something that has not been and get rid of him right then and there is a question of looking ahead. >> it's a question of looking ahead to whether or not he should be president again. it's also for history sake, but it's because they understand that this isn't just history, this is about the future. >> yeah, and kaitlyn also being brought before the committee is the current republican nominee running f

. >> the astro biologist keith callan told me more about what went wrong today. >> it seems that there is a valve that goes to one of the engines and when they started to pump the very cold liquid hydrogen, it did knock it cold enough for the system to seiko ahead. you don't want these engines to be warm when you started, you want them to be very cold. they took some time off and thought to we have enough time to fix this? the answer was no so they scrubbed. >> as a layman watching this, i heard a lot of people say 50 years ago we were able to lift off. why do we have engine problems today? >> when i worked for nasa, i probably try to see more shuttle launches and i actually saw. this is unusual. what happened today, they admitted we could have tested this. the last time they did the test, they said we are good enough with that. this is not on its, it is disappointing but again as they say, it is better to be safe than sorry. that is true. i have a feeling that this could be one of several dress rehearsals before we have an actual launch. is that a corrected assumption? >> i would not

drew, do stay with us, because i want to bring in cnn legal analyst paul callan. also new york times -- elizabeth williamson, who's in the courtroom today, and she's the author of sandy hook, an american tragedy, and the battle for truth. paul, the first legal answers to this -- ten and 12 jurors came to this decision. it was not unanimous, interestingly. what do you think of the verdict and that dollar figure, given it was so far below what the parents had sought? >> i thought the verdict was a little bit on the low side. but i'm not stunned by it in any way shape or form. i think first, what people were maybe forgetting, there were 20 children and six adults who were murdered on that horrible day in sandy hook. and all of them have to be compensated by different verdicts. if the jury was to award a normal amount of money, the $150 million for instance, in this particular verdict, well, what would be left for the other victims? they would be out of money and they would be out of luck. so, i suspect that the jury was thinking about that and trying to come up with

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drew griffin, paul callan and elizabeth williams, as well, thanks so much to all of you. please be sure to catch drew's special report, megaphone for conspiracy, the alex jones story. that is tomorrow night at 11 pm eastern time on cnn. next for us tonight, exclusive new reporting on talks now underway between lawyers for former president trump and the justice department, about the doj's january six criminal probe. later, another cnn exclusive, house select committee vice chair liz cheney, her thoughts on potential criminal charges against him. her and her father dick cheney now calling the former president a coward. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. (energetically) you guys are crushing it! see how the 8 grams of healthy protein in land o' frost premium meat gives you energy and keeps you full? let's get those buns toastin' bread. cheese. 10 more. go! ♪ i'm getting shredded! ♪ make the smart choice. land o'frost premium meat. [zoom call] ...pivot... work bye. vacation hi! book with p

. >>> joining us now to discuss the law around all of this paul callan former new york city prosecutor and david priess a former cia intelligence officer. paul, if i could begin with you, there are a few things we know the affidavit will not reveal with these redactions, you know, any identifying information about witnesses, certainly as well about any agents involved because concern that they would be threatened. do we know what this might show us about how prosecutors believe trump may have broken the law here? we know the laws they're filing this under, but will it reveal anything about how exactly they make that case? >> well, of course, the judge in his order talked about restricting references to sources and methods and he also talked about strategy, the strategy of the investigation. so i don't know precisely what he meant by that, we will have to see when it gets released, but just stepping back and looking at the big picture here, this judge is the same judge who issued the warrant and so he's well aware and was well aware of what was in the affidavit because it persuaded him

or they are in miami, florida, or they are in michigan -- where their vote and having your boats callan counted are being challenged. the idea that we have a shared value in democracy and having a democracy that really represents us. that is what we see women of color fighting for. we need that leadership. the whole country needs it right now. >> you, in your organization, have been but dissipating in a listening to her. you got to talked women in 10 states. what are you hearing from women about their top concerns right now? >> here's what we know. women of color have not been listen to. yet, this is a group of people who lead the nation's most important movements. everything from reproductive justice to raising the minimum wage for everyone. these are the mosteffective organizers, as we were talking about. what we are doing, at she the people, is listening to people on the ground . we are building this country and holding the vision from the ground up. we have been to not only california, both in fresno and los angeles, but also places like, arizona and florida, texas , and wisconsin.

in callan, in california. so right now we don't we do not have enough. >> during a telebriefing friday, doctor tomas aragon said well, federal guidelines advise those infected to stay home until all monkeypox lesions are fully healed and a fresh layer of skin is formed at the lesions cites state guidelines offer what they call a more practical approach. for those who have a limited number of lesions on the part of the body where there's no risk to exposing others if they can cover up the lesions completely. >> the lesions have have stopped increasing for 48 hours. >> they don't have a fever and they're feeling well and they completely covered up. then they can resume a normal activities are going was also asked about state data which suggests. >> cases may have started leveling off. he says it's too early to say in terms of the numbers going down. you know, whenever you look at the numbers is always a delay in reporting. so we're always cautious about about we're looking at the epidemic curve. that part at end

i like most of what he callan population express, so root and blame for the mother of alika 2. this feelings are very common among citizens dressed. and even among those politicians, the speculator ross is to pin consensus. i believe that as long as this mother is cru, see the red. i mean, to be dual in a sectional act of races and not as the sign of a system s t been in screaming nation the course of their new election will not changed. and somehow we will be complete i think it's really important to say that i cause death. a murder was not an individual instance. there. were they many instances of people of color being killed, harassed, assaulted in italy, those on and on and on and on. so let's take a broader look. i want to go back to somebody that really stopped me in my tracks. my flight, which was 2020 in rome, which is a black lives matter rally. have a look at this extraordinary. it's also a moment of silence. you're not going to hear much, but you're actually going to see, i don't really need to show it to you guess. but for our audience, just to remember that there w

has it been built against iran, callan, solid bronze? or is it as has been a ledge? the interior minister attempting to perhaps suppress the opposition somewhat given the huge support for the 4 pm being seen across pakistan. absolutely. one of my previous discussions with the r t, i get to go to the, the said that the government has tried every option to, you know, suppress him. ron hon. and his support based but nothing is working yesterday while this case was being made him run con, let me tell you he defeated that they did the testing party coalition in the bible in good r t by a margin of more than $16000.00 boards on social media on you do on, on the and on the pulling stations and run on it is on a rampage. and let me also tell you one thing that after the media ban on his speech is written by the b is not written in the sunny law m. ron con speech. during the run con speech, you do blood also band for a big in park is done. however, that has not stopped about a 1000000 on his speech in the bus 23. so as i said earlier, nothing is working and i don't see anythi

in callan, california.iefing friday, doctor tomas aragon said well, federal guidelines advise those infected to stay home until all monkeypox lesions are fully healed and a fresh layer of skin is formed at the lesions cites state guidelines offer what they call a more practical approach. for those who have a limited number of lesions on the part of the body where there's no risk to exposing others if they can cover up the lesions completely. >> the lesions have have stopped increasing for 48 hours. >> they don't have a fever and they're feeling well and they completely covered up. then they can resume a normal activities are going was also asked about state data which suggests. >> cases may have started leveling off. he says it's too early to say in terms of the numbers going down. you know, whenever you look at the numbers is always a delay in reporting. so we're always cautious about about we're looking at the epidemic curve. that part at end. >> we're always cautious because we do have all the informatio

with me, paul callan, and elie honig. elie, they've asked for more pages. it seems to me doj is saying we have stuff we want to get off our chest here. >> this is unusual in a couple respects. there is such a thing as asking for an over length brief. you can do it if you feel you can't say it in 20 pages. the other thing is doj has been concise in the filings we've seen so far. ten-page briefs. the whole affidavit was 37 pages. they've got something on their minds. when we try to anticipate what that might be, if you look at donald trump's initial filing, the motion when he asked for a special master, there's two parts. the part where he asked for a special master is straightforward, munn date, uncontroversial. there's a whole bunch of crazy stuff where trump's lawyers are going on tangents about how this is all a political attack. i wonder how much each doj is going to address. >> this is by far the most we will hear from doj since the search warrant was executed. all the things released are actually before that moment. this is in some ways their first cha

. >> paul callan, to your credit, you said last night you expected a far larger award in the punitive phase of this, i do want to play what jones' attorney said immediately after the verdict. have a listen. >> i think the verdict was too high. as for punitive damages, texas law caps them at $750,000 per plaintiff. so this verdict today amounts to $1.5 million in punitives. alex jones will be on the air today. he'll be on the air tomorrow. he'll be on the air next week. he's going to keep doing his job holding the power structure accountable. that's our only statement. >> you've spoken to mr. jones today. what was his reaction? >> his reaction was that, you know, he had been found guilty before he ever had a chance to defend this case on the merits. that the -- the first amendment is under siege and he looks forward to continuing the fight. >> from a legal standpoint, paul, you know that texas law. it has these caps here. is it a hard cap or is there a way around that? >> well, it's -- you know, it's an indication that the texas legislature doesn't trust its own juries to make a decisi

joining me right now is cnn legal analyst paul callan and cnn law enforcement contributor steve moorefbi supervisory special agent. thank you for being here. on the affidavit deadline for the justice department, whatever is released, if something is released who redacted do you think it is going to be? >> i think it is going to be very heavily redacted. we're talking about potentially very, very serious classified documents that are part of the whole package here. and the witnesses that they relied on to have a federal judge issue this search warrant had to refer to the importance of those documents and other things. i think as a result of it, it is probably going to be very heavily redacted. >> i was wondering, steve, as a former fbi agent, within the fbi, do you think they see public good in transparency here in less redactions? >> you know, the agent on the street and the people who write those affidavits generally don't have in their mind the biggest picture. they're sitting here saying what can i do for this case and this case is obviously good for the united states. so if i can

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the outside looking in is a drastic change of events, and one where i believe that your guy, paul callanis daring and dangerous on the part of the department of justice. so i do find myself troubled by what's happening. and if it's only about the presidential record act, that is a dangerous precedent to set going forward. >> do you think that the department of justice should be more forward leaning, forward facing, explain a little bit more about what happened? >> the american people will benefit from having a lot of information presented as quickly as possible so that we understand and appreciate what's happening. one of the things i do cover in my book, america redemption story, is the importance of a justice system that is fair and equitable and applied to everyone the same way. having been the receiver of the short end of the stick from a justice perspective, it's so important for us to have great confidence in our justice system. it's one of the reasons why last week we had christopher wray before the judiciary commit abecause of the political activity in the fbi. >> you devote a wh

law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi and cnn legal analyst paul callan. it's important to lay out where we are at this point. the fact that the former president's legal team was asking for the special master, some of the questions that were immediately raised when that was filed is that it had already been two weeks at that point since the -- since those documents had been taken from mar-a-lago. and would there even be a need? what would be happening in those two weeks? is there a chance that they could have gone through all the documents? >> it is definitely possible, erica, they've gone through the documents at least preliminarily the -- i should point out that use of the filter in this case was landlocked from the beginning. we look at the affidavit -- [ poor audio ] how exactly the department of justice intended to use the filter team here, the fact that it would be separate from the team of investigators and lawyers that are investigating the case. so it sounds like they stayed the course, exactly what they told the judge they would do initially, an

justice correspondent evan perez, cnn congressional correspondent jessica dean, legal analyst paul callan, and senior political analyst nia-malika henderson. evan, you have new reporting from inside the u.s. justice department related to the search of trump's florida home. what can you tell us? >> there's a little frustration growing inside the department about the lack of information the department is putting out. essentially the silence that you have seen from the department. at least at a minimum, acknowledging that the search took place, which is of course, something the former president has already done. and of course, he's used this to launch attacks against the fbi, calling this a siege and as you can see, that has resulted in attacks against members of law enforcement. people at the department, i'm told, believe there's a way for the department to at least acknowledge what has happened and at least explain some of what has happened. obviously, this is the era of merrick garland, who has been staunchly opposed to any of that. he believes that, and he said this before, he has said t

in callan, in california. so right now we don't we do not have enough. >> during a telebriefing friday, doctor tomas aragon said well, federal guidelines advise those infected to stay home until all monkeypox lesions are fully healed and a fresh layer of skin is formed at the lesion cites state guidelines offer what they call a more practical approach. for those who have a limited number of lesions on the part of the body where there's no risk to exposing others if they can cover up the lesions completely. >> the lesions have have stopped increasing for 48 hours. >> they don't have a fever and they're feeling well and they completely covered up. then they can resume a normal activities are going was also asked about state data which suggests. >> cases may have started leveling off. he says it's too early to say in terms of the numbers going down. you know, whenever you look at the numbers is always a delay in reporting. so we're always cautious about about we're looking at the epidemic curve. that part at end.

it's so funny to hear republican politicians in washington callans other peoplec snowflakes when they spend almost all of their time complaining aboutan things and then doing nothing. nothing we can do anything, send us more money and if we get elected again, then we'll fix it. maybe promise ? no, i guess we won't. we'll just invade ukraine or something. so it's kind of amazing and a little jarring to see republican politicians ri something about something all off us have known about suspect prosecutors for a long time and the effectno they're havingwn on the country like a lot of people dying. but it wasn't until today that anyone actually acted and that would be governor ronda's heads to florida who just they saw us back. prosecutor in tampa called andrew warren from within r six years. andrew warren was refusing to enforce laws that he didn't like. well, as promised, governor sanford joins right now to discuss why he did this. governor , thanks so much for coming on . sois this is kind of a big move. it seems like. why didn't you do it? well, tucker, you documented that just struct

>> paul callan called it a colossal error on the part of jonesen jones' defense team. i just want to play that moment for you. >> did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every text message you've sent for the past two years and when informed did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protect it in any way. as of two days ago, it fell free and clear into my possession and that is how i know you lied to me. >> that is how i know you lied to me. now keep in mind during discovery, alex jones had said he never texted about sandy hook. there we are in court yesterday with the plaintiffs' attorney saying, oh, yes, you did, because i just looked at two years of your cell phone records that your attorneys inadvertently sent me. the plaintiffs' attorney said i let your attorneys know and nothing happened. that does raise some separate questions about not only the representation but what else could come out of it. but it was certainly a stunning moment in court yesterday, jim

the turner callan's book that i reference, he and else up interviewed everybody but the president. we don't know, i don't know maybe john knows. in roosevelt's own riding and what has come out in his papers about what his thinking was about this. why he wouldn't take yes for an answer. >> he was much too careful to leave a paper trail on anything! [laughs] >> we have a question from the audience, i hope i pronounce this way. camilla -- how do we know that core packing was unpopular? outside of the conservative voice of the court? did average americans in the 1930s have a strong opinion on the court? >> the two strong constituencies of roosevelt, farmers and labor, and liberals -- they all turned against a pretty quickly! he lost his natural constituency. it was not popular from the beginning. it is interesting. he thought, roosevelt thought it might be. which is why he embarked on a! he started losing his natural allies from the beginning. am i right on that, john? >> no, i think that's correct. look at the mailbags. some of which is archive there. >> we have millions of letters! >

i want to add cnn legal analyst paul callan, former new york city prosecutor. and also with us senior citizen chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, what do you think is going on here with -- what do you think is going on here today, and what is going to happen in the next few hours? >> well, i think today sometime we may gain a little bit more insight into the potential criminal exposure that donald trump has. as you pointed out earlier and as katelyn pointed out, the president on social media last night said, you know, i'd like to release these documents. the judge said, well, i want to hear from you by 3:00 today. we don't know whether he's going to say something before that. so we'll have some insight into the search warrant which, by the way, the president and his attorneys have and could have released any time. but we'll get some insight into that search warrant, and to the receipt of what they actually took from mar-a-lago. we don't know how detailed that receipt would be. it could say like a box, ten boxes, or it could say a little bit -- a litt

i think my good friend paul callan has it right. case you have to look at not only in this jurisdiction, texas, but you have to look at what the other families are enduring. we know there are two pending lawsuits in connecticut. certainly alex jones has made claims to the limitations of his -- the money he has available. and in the event you issue an award that is so excessive, we already know he's filed for bankruptcy in an effort to protect himself from further liability, what would that do? and the jury certainly could have been of mind to think about that. hey, if we award something that is so excessive, and he's already protecting assets, could it foreclose the parties in connecticut that are suing him? that makes sense. but we do know notwithstanding that, jim, they're moving on today to decide the issue of punitive. very quickly, it is important to talk about the distinction, compensatory damages are z designed to compensate you -- >> we lost joey jackson there. he was making the point -- he was making the point there are two

joining me now for more, cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor paul callan, cnn law enforcement analyst peter lacotta, and cnn's senior political analyst nia malika henderson. first with weisselberg, he pleads guilty. the point of how this -- the focus on weisselberg all along is to try to get him to cooperate in a broader investigation into the trump business. he's apparently not going to be -- not willing to cooperate with them. though as kara mentioned, he'll be required to testify in court. what is he doing here? what happens? >> well, he's been entirely unwilling to testify specifically against donald trump. and in negotiating this plea, he worked out this special deal where he will testify against the trump organization. but not against the former president himself. so i think that's a defeat for prosecutors. this is -- it is a big deal because somebody from the trump organization and he's a key figure, he's a central figure at the trump organization, has pled guilty to this 15-year scheme of tax fraud. but we have no agreement that he'll say anything about the former president. >

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