jesse jackson who would be more of a bernie sanders, but relay stood for the kinds of versions of democratic socialism. and then the other side was, the traditional democratic party. someone like gary hart as a more, stood for the ideas of the democrats becoming the new democrats. the tech and trade for the future of the party. that is what dominated the party going t forward. >> before we talk about 1984, let's talk about 1974.t what happened dan to got elected that helped proceed this? >> i'm just giving you a hard time. 1974 was another critical year and political history. the big think that dominated the news was watergate.ng a new group of people that came into congress. known as the water babies. one of the things that is often depicted, theye were against nixon and the republicans, what they wanted was to focus on bigy governments and they wanted change. gary hart, kim, there is a whole slew of new candidates that come in.l joined later by people like al gore and later by people like bill clinton. a change in the party's direction structure. the other thing in 1974 is the economic rec

the jesse jackson said anything about that?here were 13 public high schools and baltimore were 0% of the kids can do math at grade level. that's almost half the schools in baltimore where the kids are 0% proficient in math. jesse jackson to my knowledge has not said a word about that. but some 4-year-old girl whose parents determines how sheer accident he writes a letter, it's nonsense. if there was a crime t against leadership for so many people like jesse jackson and al sharpton. >> host: larry elder at what point did you become a conservative or was it after you left? >> guest: there was no moment. my dad was a lifelong republican. my dad always said democrats want something for nothing. when you're trying to get something for nothing you end up gettingr, nothing for something. favorite expression. my mother was a lifelong democrat so they would quarrel in a civil way when we get together for dinner. might dad worked long hours and they would debate politics and my mother because she was better educated in my opinion would h

the party could have gone gone in and one was represented by someone like jesse jackson who would be of a more kind of bernie sanders type alec actually bernie center supported him, but really stood for some of the kinds of kinds of versions of democratic socialism, but i think the sanders campaign is represented and then the other side was mont was the mondale approaches the traditional democratic party and the third would be someone like gary hart as this kind of as a more who stood for the ideas of the atari democrats or who become the new democrats really focusing on sort of tech and trade in the new economy as the future for the party and that's really what dominated to help the shape the direction of the party going forward and what really my book looks at before we talk about 1984 though. let's talk about 1974. what happened in 1974 and who got elected then that helped proceed this and i should say when i say 1984. i mean not the george orwell book, but then 1984 but the election but the you know, i'm just giving you a hard time the 1974 was it is actually another critical yea

so we were out there in san francisco and jesse jackson into that that is a mentor of mine he was 25r 26 said he was like a father figure because as you grow older that 13 year gap is different between father and son i knew i wanted to be in a never changege that. why do you want to make a living doing civil-rights ministry? i don't know that this is what i believe as an excellent lawyer i write about that i am sure he never thought he thought he would become the face of the civil rights friendship i think if you decide with your life there is no way anybody could have told mee how is anybody going to tell me that i would be on a syndicated radio w show? msnbc was not even in existence shows they are value. >> reading the book why is helpful because you give all of these things that the stories, the pushback that folks received but yet it becomes very clear you are not in this for g the money or the things that you go through it's theve bigger context of what people experience and there is no amount of money for the things that happen all the time. >> so let's go back so when the pol

did jesse jackson say anything about that? inre baltimore there are 13 pubc high schools in baltimore, 13, where 0% of the kids can do math at grade level are. can -- level. that's almost half the skills in baltimore where the kids are either 0% proficient in math or 1%, yet vast she jackson, to my knowledge, has not said a word about that. but you let some muppet disrespect some 4-year-old girl, and he writes a letter demanding this, that and all the other. that's nonsense. some of these people like jesse jackson, a.m. sharpton, in my opinion, would be on death row. >> host: at what point being raised in south central did you become a conservative? >> guest: you know, there was no moment. my dad was a lifelong republican. my dadd always said democrats want to give you something for nothing. and when you try and get something for nothing, you almost getting nothing for something. favorite expression. my mother was a lifelong democrat. they would quarrel in a civil way when we would get together for dinner. when we did, they wo

so after mondale in that primary ofof the election one was represented by someone like jesse jackson but really stood for some of the kinds of versions of socialism the campaign has represented. the other side is gary hart for the democrats focusing on the new economy and that's what dominated and helped to shape the direction of the party going forward. >> before we talk about 1984 let's talk about 1974. what happened in 1974 and who got elected then that help to proceed this? >> 1974 is another critical year in political history and the big thing that's dominated you have a new group of people that come into congress that represent a change in the party and one ofit the things that is often depicted because they were ecalled the watergate babies t against nixon and changed in the democratic party. this is represented by people like gary hart, even a whole slew of campus to come in. the other thing that happens is the economic recession and there is a struggle for new solutions to address these larger problems of the economy and wanting to find new ways to address the economy and th

francisco, cecil williams, these were the kinds of preachers i grew up, i wanted to be like that, jesse jacksonand that up a mentor of mine when i was 12, he was 25, 26, he was like a father figure that became a big brother figure because as you grow older, the gap is different from father to son so i knew what i wanted to be and never changed that, never let anybody talk me out of it. some of the guys in the ministry say why do you want to make a living doing civil rights, i don't know but this is what i believe i am supposed to do and i write about an excellent lawyer. and the face of the civil rights -- if you decide, your living comes from that. no way anybody could have told me, how is anybody going to tell me, hosting a syndicated radio show, wasn't even msnbc in existence, they would always show you their value, doesn't show you out. >> host: you give these things, the stories of the pushback folks receive. it is clear you are not in this for the money, there's no way you have gone through the things you have gone through, the stories are so helpful to give bigger context of what people

reporter: the family of ahmaud arbery along with their attorney and civil rights leader reverend jesse jackson emerged from a court moments after travis mcmichael received a life sentence plus ten years for committing a federal hate crime. >> and he chose not to say he was even sorry. so he really showed the court, he showed the family, he showed everybody who has been saying, what kind of people really took my son away. >> reporter: mcmichael was already sentenced earlier this year to life without parole in state court for shooting and killing the unarmed 25-year-old jogger. >> we, the jury, find the defendant, travis mcmichael guilty. >> reporter: as was his father, gregory mcmichael, who chased arbery through georgia in 2020 along with his son. the older mcmichael also received a second life sentence along with seven extra years. >> we're extremely pleased the court decided to follow the laws and follow the sentencing guidelines and offer a life sentence. >> reporter: william "roddie" bryant who reported the incident in his truck faced a federal sentence for his participation. >> they did n

and one was represented by someone like jesse jackson who gave more sort of a bernie sanders where he stood for some of the versions of democratic socialism that i think the sanders campaign has represented and the other side was with the mondale approach was the traditional democratic party the third would be this gary hart as a more the ideas focusing on tech and trade and the new economy as a future for the party andthat's what dominated , helped shape the direction of the party going forward. >> we talk about 1984 the let's talk about 1974. what happened in 1974 and who got elected then that helped you see this i should say not the george orwell book butthe election . >> .. this is representative of the people like gary hart, there's a whole slew of new candidates who come in. people like al gore and the state level liketi bill clinton they stand for a change in the parties direction and part of structure. the other pink thing that happened around 1974 his economic recession and there's the struggle within the democratic party, new solutions to address the economy and wanting to f

and jesse jackson ended up a mentor of mine. when i was 12, my mother brought me to him. he was like a father figure, a big brother figure because as you grow older, the gap of 13 years is different than a father and a son. so i knew what i wanted to be, and i never changed that. i never let nobody talk me out of it. i remember some of the guys that was going with me -- well, how you going to make a living doing civil rights ministry? i said, i don't know, but this is what i believe we're supposed to do. and that's the way with ben crump. ben crump is an excellent lawyer. i write about that. i'm sure ben crump never thought he would become the face of the civil rights legal kind of -- and how he was going to make a living. i think if you decide your life, your living will come from that decision. there's no way anybody could have told me, how's anybody going to tell el me that doing what i do, that i would one day host an authenticate radio show? there wasn't even msnbc in existence when i started this. so they will always assign you motives because it shows you their val

jesse jackson was running in 1984.didn't specifically go after alter mondale was for minnesota who was a front writer but is talk about hubert humphrey. hubert humphrey the former vice president ran for president in 1960, 68 and briefly brn 1972. he said something to the effect hubert humphrey was the only real progress of leader who ever came out of minnesota. so i put two and two together and you figure out he's trying to go after walter mondale because trying to do it somewhat underhandedly ephod that was a great light. i think insults are something, no matter what side you're on is something you can appreciate the way politicians are able to insult some. sometimes it can be an impish sophomoric insult but of the danzig to be something creative and you say wow. >> richard rubino is the author of this book, "the great american political trivia challenge." available online. mr. rubino thanks is benny a few minutes with us on about books. >> thanks. it was great to be on the station at a dedicated the book too. >> list

the family of ahmaud arbery along with their attorney and civil rights leader leader reverend jesse jackson emerged from a georgia federal court moments after travis mcmichael received a life sentence plus 10 years for committing a federal hate crime. crime. >> and travis shows not to even say he was sorry. he really showed the court, it showed the family, it showed everybody who's been saying what kind of people took my son away. >> reporter: shooting and killing the unarmed 25-year-old jogger. >> we the jury find the defendat travis mcmichael guilty. >> reporter: as was his father, greg mcmichael who cased arbery through georgia in 2020 along with his son. the older mcmichael received a second life life sentence along with seven extra years. >> we are extremely pleased the court decided to follow the law, law, follow the sentencing guidelines and administer a fedl sentence of life. >> william "roddie" bryan also faced a federal life sentence for his hate crime conviction. >> that hot day, they did not give no mercy. and you asking for mercy? >> reporter: federal prosecutors prosecutors sh

i have invited jesse jackson to come on my radio show 50 times. al sharpton won't do it. she invited me on her show? i think during the campaign she did, but recently did not do it because of too many other things. i would be happy. all they have to do is invite me. >> larry elder you spent 25-30 years on radio where people did not see your face necessarily. what is your anonymity level? >> these days i cannot go anywhere without someone recognizing me. airport, hotel. i was in des moines as you mentioned earlier yesterday and someone came up to me. i am sitting at a counter eating by myself. a gentleman to my left, two people to my right. the one to my left said mr. elder i did not want to say something to you, but i am a huge fan. he was in the army. we had a long conversation. eat your food, it's going to get cold. how often will have a chance to talk to larry elder. the couple next to me also knew who i was. they did not say anything m because they did not want to be rude. we all took textures. that is a level right now. despite that, though, right before the election

martin luther king jr., jesse jackson the first black man probably who had at least a chance a serious's lt. and mayor of atlanta. was minister and you take it up to generally fifth and ralph warnock who ebenezer baptist church and is the minister. so because of the fight against anti- black racism and white supremacy, was unrelenting, the electricians by large could not avoid being political. so are infinite in ancestor developed and liberating god still at the center that liberation was both after one staff coming but liberates them upon birth and black christianity is meant to be a redemptive force for nation's original sins was slavery gives it a completely different identity and assist denominations whether or not the methodist church for the baptist church and hang onto others were kind of slow and the baptism of black people as you well know, morgan - he was a priest read a book about the negro advocate in which he said, these people are human beings, there's a question of whether africans were real human beings are not and i know it sounds hyperbolic but it's true. and he said

the very live question at the time beginning with jesse jackson up to the '90s. that was a very explosive revelation which eventually faded into the woodwork once anita hill stepped forward. quick to just sate your portrait of thomas illuminates a black conservatism in general? >> it was probably after malcolm x and the text he read in late 60s and 70s, was probably the most influential -- is black economist, very conservative who wrote a book called race and economics. and clarence thomas gets a call the capitol of missouri is it jefferson city? is that right? he drives all the way to st. louis this is a 1975 or 76 he isd there to debate an up-and-coming law professor by the name r of ruth bader ginsbu. he kinda says this is his conversion the road to damascus or the road to st. louis. so soul is a huge influence on him. however, you cannot homogenize black conservatives. individualistic streak bleaching color blindness. don't think you see those in thomas. soul definitely but some other black conservatives is a little more intention was. >> is today's strain th

face of the civil rights movement in the south after 1955 would be doctor martin luther king jr., jesse jackson man at least who had a serious chance. as a minister and doctor king's lieutenant and mayor of atlanta who was a minister taking it up to january 5th for those who has at the knees are baptist church he is done ministers so because of the fight against anti- black racism and white supremacy was unrelenting black christians by and large could not avoid being slaves. so our ancestors developed a form of christianity with the liberating god added center and that was both after one's death. but liberation honors. black christianity was supposed to be a redemptive force for the nations whose original sin was slavery. that's a completely different identity and the sister denominations whether methodist or the baptist church. anglicans i'm ashamed to say worse level accepting the baptism of black people as you know an anglican priest was the negro and indian advocate said these people are human beings there are questions whether africans were real human beings are not. i know it sounds hyper

he also had this treason watch list, where he showed photos of both democratic politicians and jesse jackson. now, he's running for secretary of state in arizona. and this race is very, very important. the arizona secretary of state administers the elections in the state. they certify the results. and as we saw in the last election, this is going to be a super important swing state. so it's obviously important that the person administering the election is kind of on the level. >> andrew, several leaders of the oath keepers, the far right militia group, were indicted and accused of seditious conspiracy in the january 6th attack. how involved is finchem with the oath keepers? >> yeah, so finchem, when he first ran for state office in 2014, he told a local publication that he was a member of the oath keepers. an old campaign account that he maintained that has since been deleted asked people to join the oath keepers. on a since deleted facebook page, he posted several events for the arizona chapter of the oath keepers, of which he was a member. now, we asked finchem about this content. he just

jesse jackson. how did his death affect you? dr. fisher: i remember those same touchstones. i was a kid, but sports were central to the way i engaged the world. i sent a metronome for when the white sox were playing and when the bears were playing, when the wolves were playing. having a professional caliber player in the community, not far from us, getting coverage on the front page of our local newspapers, that was startling and amazing. and it really made tangible that these folks we see, like walter payton, he is very different. but, they come from somewhere. here was somebody that had the potential to reach those same heights. and he is like blocks away. simeon is a mile and a half from where i grew up, not far at all. when he was struck down, not only was it jarring that light, a celebrity was killed by a gun at school, but then, the outpouring. that same amount of morning was also approximate. the people upset workers of the community. the funeral processions. not only did it make real that violets was going to be an ever present part of my life and that was the first

there's mother mary leaving, the students weeding, jesse jackson, how does his death affect you? >> i remember those exactsame touchstones . i was a kid, but sports were very much essential to the way engaged the world. i wanted, you know, i set a metronome when the white sox were playing, when the polls were playing so having a professional caliber player in the community, right, getting coverage on the front page of our newspapers. >> .. somebody who has the potential to reach the same heights, and he's like locks away. a mile and half where i grew up, not far at all. when he was struck down not only was it jarring that like celebrity was killed by a gun at school, but then the outpouring, like then that same amount of mourning was also proximate. the people who are upset were also members of the community. the funeral procession. i i think not only did it make real that violence was going to bet a never present part of my life, and that was the first initiative, but it started a pattern. we didn't see this happening to the white stars that were emerging. we didn't see this hap

postings including a pinterest account with what he calls a treason watch list featuring photos of jesse jackson, janet napolitano, and former secretary of state john kerry. now, in other postings, he compares democrats to nazis, and in one now taken down, calls for people to stockpile ammunition. again, he's running to be secretary of state in charge of elections. when asked to dmcomment, he declined. he's part of a larger political and social phenomenon. my next guest is tim alberta, who writes about it in the atlantic. quote, this country is tracking toward a scale of political violence not seen since the civil war. it's evident to anyone who has spent significant time dwelling in the physical or spiritual spaces of the american right. go to a gun show, visit a right wing church, check out a trump rally. tim alberta joins us now. tim, do you really believe we're tracking toward a scale of political violence not seen since the civil war? in the early '70s, there were political bombings. there were a lot of bombings in the country, often just against property, and that was something the u.s. ha

folks like jesse jackson, 20, 30 years ago, by one share of coca-cola, show up at the shareholder meetinggree. this is larger issue. >> larger issue. charles: much larger. >> competing against blackrock with their own game and methods. this is the difference though, most people, capital owners, every day citizens with money in the retirement accounts, brokerage accounts they do not want a large asset manager to use money to advance political agenda. if there is new vehicle to deliver the profit oriented message, profit oriented message that will be much more likely to drive lasting change. charles: i looked at your top 10 holdings, and, did you pick them based on traditional fundamentals or did you pick them based on the idea these are management teams that are wisenning up and pushing back? >> it was just an index fund. it is pegged to an index. blackrock, vanguard they offer passive exposure to a sector like energy sector. rather than active managed product, use a similar to index fund bringing a different voice and vote to the table that is what is different, isolating not for competin

question of black anti-semitism was a very live question at the time beginning, you know with jesse jackson up through the 90s. so that was a very explosive revelation which eventually, you know faded into the woodwork anita hill step forward. would you say that your portrait of thomas kind of illuminate a black conservatism in general eg thomas? oh or is thomas more idiosyncratic than that? so it definitely thomas sull was probably after you know malcolm x and the kind of reader the the taxi read in the late 60s and 70s thomas soul was probably the most influential thomas hall was a black economic is a black economist very conservative who wrote a book called race and economics and thomas clarence thomas gets a call saying you got to read this book. he reads it. he's in he's at the capital of missouri. what is jefferson city, is that right? okay. he drives all the way to saint louis because thomas soule, this is 1975 76 thomas soul is there to debate and up and coming law professor by the name of ruth bader ginsburg and he goes and and you know, he kind of says this is his conversion. you

jesse jackson did the eulogy, roberta flack. if you look at the active pallbearers. bill russell, mani irving. martin -- jim gilligan. ralph baraka. peewee reese. joe black. honorary pallbearers. willie mays. joe louis. nelson rockefeller who robinson supported. willie stargill. you could just imagine what that scene was like. in 72 and like he was saying, it was only nine days earlier, in cincinnati, that the world series. they've been trying to get jackie to come out and make a public appearance and he had resisted, resisted. he finally went out and we all remember his last, that last prophetic line. when he talked about he's pleased to be here today but i'll be more pleased when i look at that third base line and see a black manager. and we were talking about that before on the air that here we are. however many years, 50 years later. and we've got two black managers. i guess i want to ask you guys, before we take questions. i'm sure that if jackie were alive now, he might think that he'd been on this huge merry-go-round. there you go miles and miles and miles in

. >> guest: for example, jesse jackson was running in 1984. he didn't specifically go after walter mondale who was from minnesota who was the front-runner, but he was talking about hubert humbly -- hum free. and he said he was the only real progressive leader who ever came out of minnesota. obviously, you put two and two together, oh, he's trying to go after walter mondale. wow, that was really kind of a great line, is so i think insults are really something, no matter what side you're on, you can appreciate the way politicians are able to i insult. sometimes it can be first rate, sophomoric insult, but other times really creative, and you say, wow. >> host: rich rubino is the author of this book, "the great american political trivia challenge," available online. mr. rubino, thanks for spending a few minutes with us on "about books." >> guest: thanks. it was great to be on the station that i dedicated the book to. >> listen to full episodes on the c-span now app or wherever you get your podcasts, or watch it online at booktv.org. >> i'm the de

19 1972 riverside church, new york city right and if you look at you know, paul bearers, yeah, jesse jackson did the the eulogy roberta flack and if you look at the act pallbearers bill russell larry, dolan, mighty irving of martin element jim gillen, don newcombe ralph. branca. branca pee wee reese joe black honorary pallbearers willie mays joe lewis nelson rockefeller who robinson supported willie stargell pete. i mean just you know, you could just imagine what that scene was like. all right. he's 72 and like you were saying. it was only 90 days earlier in cincinnati that the world series. you know we cool. they've been trying to get jackie to come out make a public appearance and he had resisted and resisted. he finally went out and we all remember his last that last prophetic line. you know when he talked about he's pleased to be here today, but i'll be more pleased when i look at that. third base line and see a black manager and we are talking about that before we went on the air that here we are. you know, whatever how many every years 50 years later and we've got two black managers an

jesse jackson was running in 1984 and he didn't specifically go afterwalter mondale who was a front runnerlking about hubert humphrey, the former vice president . ran for president in 68 and briefly in 52 and 1972 and he said hubert humphrey was the greatest but the only progressive leader who came out of minnesota so you put two and two together and you say he's trying to go after walter amanda mondale but he'strying to do it underhandedly . you thought that was a great line so the insults are something, no matter what side you are on it's something you can appreciate the waypoliticians are able to insult . sometimes it can be an impish first rate sophomore consult but other times it can be something as creative and you say wow. >> rich rubio is the author of this book the great american political trivia challenge. available online. ask for spending a few minutes with us on aboutbooks . >> it was great to be on the station that i dedicated the book to . >> listen to full episodes of about books on the act or wherever you get your podcasts . or watch itonline . >> every saturday american h

they would go from one, it's jesse jackson. jesse jackson wants to blah, blah, blah. recent years, it is nancy pelosi, san francisco liberal. she's a radical. then it was, aoc, a back bencher. it's aoc, she's running the government. then it's kamala harris. oh, it's kamala harris, she's coming after you. it's bernie sanders, he's a lib. they now are willing to throw away the greatest experiment in the history of humankind. >> yes, they are. >> over a moderate, over a moderate from delaware, whose biggest knock against him within his own party was he was too close to credit card companies. >> right. >> they have defined radicalism down so much that it is just preposterous. willie, i'm james brown! i need -- >> let me get the cape. >> "godfather," it's okay. i just can't stop myself. hot tub. >> the good part about the cape, though, joe, is he always comes back. when you think he is done with the cape on, he throws it off and does another song. we'll look forward to that. i want to read a quote from congressman dan crenshaw from texas, republican from texas. he says thi

for example jesse jackson was running a 1984 pre-did not specifically go after walter mondale from minnesota, who was a front runner. he was segment uber humphrey ran for president in 1960, 68. something to the effect that hubert humphrey was the only real aggressive leader who ever came out of minnesota part of ziti put two and two together and think is trying to go after walter mondale. trying to do it underhandedly. that that was a great line praising the insole -- no matter what side you're on something you can appreciate the way politicians consult. sometimes it could be an insult other times it could be something really creative and you say wow. spewing rich is the author of this book, the great american political trivia challenge. available online. thank you for spending a few minutes with us on about books. >> thanks it was great to be on the station i dedicated the book too. >> listen to full episodes of about books on the c-span now cap. or wherever you get your podcast or watch it online at booktv.org. x good evening everyone. what do the midtown scholar bookstore. my name is alex

i have invited jesse jackson to gollum -- to come on my show 50 times they won't do it. read invited me on her show? i think during the campaign she did come up with the reason we didn't do it was i had too many other things to do. i would be happy. all they have to do is invite me. host: very elder, he spent 25, 30 years on radio where people didn't see her face necessarily. he ran for governor of california. what is your anonymity level these days? guest: these days i can't go anywhere without some of you recognizing me, airport, hotels. i was in des moines earlier yesterday and someone came up to me, and i'm sitting at the counter eating myself, a gentleman to my left and two people to my right, the one to my left said, mr. elder, i didn't want to say anything because i didn't want to intrude but i am a big fan. he is -- was in the army and we had a long conversation. his food came and i said, eat your food it is going to get cold and he said how often will i get to talk to larry elder. the couple next to me also knew me and they didn't say anything because they didn'

i have invited jesse jackson to come on my radio show over 50 times in my 30 years, maxine waters won'ty invite me on the show. didn't do it, happen to go on reland martin's show all he has to do is invite me. >> you spent 25, 30 years on radio where people didn't see your face necessarily and ran for governor of california. what's your anonymity level these days? >> these days i can't go anywhere without somebody recognizing me, airport, hotels, no matter where i was, i was in des moines, as you mentioned, earlier yesterday and someone came up to me, i'm sitting at a counter eating by myself. a gentleman to my left and two people to my right and as i was getting ready to get up, mr. elder, i didn't want to say anything to you, i didn't want to intrude, but i'm a huge fan. he was in the arm army, and a long conversation. and his food came. i said eat your food it's going to get cold. he said talking to larry elder. and the other two, and took pictures. that's the level of fame. despite that before the election was over, i was just under a skosh under a million followers on twitter, sinc

if you're that afraid of michael jackson impersonators get out, you know. >> jesse: i kind of wish moreerland. is it the glove, do you think? >> and the face, said she was afraid of "thriller." seems like for non--- for non-neverland -- >> jesse: what are you deeply afraid of? >> sharks. now i know what to do. i've gotten so much out of this segment. thank you, jesse. >> jesse: thank you very much, madison. we have the window -- madison was going on a shoot in chicago, i fret where it was, i listened to half of the story, but said that robots are replacing workers. that got me nervous, because that means i'm replaceable. then she told me that robots could only replace hard news anchors. they couldn't rationally deliver opinions. i'm good, i'm good. madison has to look for another job in 10-15 years, when the robots take over. good luck. you have a long time to prepare the resume. >> thank you, jesse. another fear to add to the list. >> jesse: some extension. text messages. mary says, you can also get a free education from the military. why don't the libs sign up for that? don't want too

but hai have decided to do is to repeat what reverend jesse jackson said, let's keep. so folks on the line we can hear you so if you can mute amming yourself. sfgovtv if you can keep an eye out. thanks. >> let's keep hope arc live. i also try very hard to follow a physical and mental education derivatives. as a matter of fact, around 6 or 6:30 in the morning prior to the pandemic you found me walking around the stadium up the steps and down the steps. looking at the beautiful sky, admiring god's work. looking at the flours that creep up between the cracks, pay no attention to the people running beside me i kept walk. i have been hit in my car. go back up the hill. grab my newspaper, cup of coffee and hop back in bed. i forgot to tell thank you in this cup of coffee i had a smidge of brandy. as a matter of fact my doctor asked me, do you drink, i said, yes. >> how much. >> i said a smidgeon. >> he say what is is a smidgeon. i said check with [inaudible]. again, i do love the golden gate park. and as you said already, it was on sundays that we would go to the park, i wou

jackson hole. what technicals come into play? jess is looking at the tracing of the june low to the august peak. looking at that on the s&p 500, bank of america is looking at resistance around 4195 and 4219 for the s&p 500 and then support 4090 and 3900, so we are in the sweet spot. as you mentioned with jackson hole coming up, seeing what could happen friday, but typically, when we look at different fed meetings, there has been a look at the stock market, so it will be interesting to see what investors will say that day. kriti: bloomberg just -- bloomberg's jess meton. anything could happen the next couple of days. let's bring in michael purves, and thank you for joining us. walk us through the positioning ahead of jackson hole. what are you expecting is going to be the most volatility? michael: well, a lot of people describe the rally off the june lows as shortcoming, but if you look at the interest position, it has gone bearish. i think a little of a misnomer to call it a short, rally. you could call it a low liquidity rally, and b

jesse lewis, one of the sandy hook victims here. you are about to hear from legal analyst joey jackson.nt set of challenges because of the law in the state of texas that caps the amounts that are awarded to victims. >> although the jury awarded that amount in punitive damages, there is a statutory cap, amara, in texas. that statutory cap limits the damages to $750,000 per, right, plaintiff. so ultimately it will be $1.5 million. this is not the end of the road. this is one particular case. there are other cases pending in connecticut, and those families certainly deserve relief. >> reporter: elie honig, one of our other legal analysts, bringing up another important point as far as what could potentially happen next after alex jones' attorneys file an objection to the final outcome here from the jury. basically saying here would could come next is counterargument that the state law in texas, it basicallies against their constitutional right for the plaintiffs to be able to go to trial and have no limits in the amount that is awarded. this is an argument that has succeeded in other states