i was going to ask you about the ipcc, and the difference in these figures.is an issue that is hard for the public to take in. how does the layman get a grip on what is going on, and to be aware and concerned about what is happening? because it is so confusing that people just do not register. yarrow: yeah, that is a fair response. between the way that science works and the way we're constantly refining things and looking at things in different angles, and the way these complex pieces of science are then reported in the news media, it does feel like a lot of back and forth and waffling about what is going on. but the reality is that we have known for a very long time that a warming world will be a world with rising sea levels, and with a lot of loss of ice from the ice sheets. and perhaps the most important thing for people to understand is that every impact of climate change, whether it is physical, ice loss from an ice sheet, or we're talking about impacts on humans and ecosystems, scales with the amount of warming. so we can quibble, scientists can quibble

the ipcc does not mention. it's got thousands of pages. it does not mention it professor destler. seen him mention it. he doesn't mention it here. this is like discussing polio and the effects of polio without discussing the fact that we have a polio vaccine. we are masters of climate to not discuss. this is climate mastery denial pure and simple and nothing. i want to really emphasize this nothing a climate mastery denier projects about future harms of co2 can be trusted because they deny our climate mastery abilities applies to the ipcc reports certainly applies to professor destler. and so the final factor, which is he even more egregious denial if that is possible is denying the benefits of fossil fuels. so fossil fuels are uniquely scalable and versatile source of energy scalable means provide energy for billions of people and thousands of places versatile means all types of machines. you might have noticed professor destler only talked about electricity. what electricity is only 20% of global energy use fossil fuels are growing particularly in china and other parts of the wo

>> well, i was involved in the 2013 ipcc report. struck me is the magnitude of the loss -- what we are already committed to, nobody involved in this research expected to see double what we had thought before. that is just really shocking. if we look at the future damage, the idea we could even get up to 30 inches of melt water from greenland is just shocking. amy: can you talk about the methodology that you used in this reporting that led you to this? >> yes. most of the reports involved with sea level rise from greenland involved computer models. in our case, we used observation looped on the ground. there was a lot of kobach involved. develop some physics we used to plug the data in that we got from the actual ice sheet, and it shows the snow line -- the dividing line between what melt each year and what accumulates snow each year is steadily shifting at words. -- upwards. by tracking how the starlight is moving upwards, we can determine how much of the ice is just zombie ice. the ice that has one foot in the grave and committed t

because what have much time to fix the ipcc about a year and a half ago said we had about twelve and a half years to fix it we were down to say let or whatever. the number of months i believe it. that didn't do much. not long on this. with infrastructure. that'll way to go but- eleven or twelve you. to deploy carbon. down so. why do we have to fix democracy. in you get to think about reason here. this is going to be an all hands on deck time for us we've got to. all of us get gates all. organic farm. okay all you're business. all ready. we got to come to every only do. if our votes matter. if i policies are supported if we can bridge that gap this i of that so. an inner there's- this point the end gets into some kind of. difficult things. can you imagine. is power. system resilient i proficient fascist society. think about because at the bottom of this explains fascism is rule by oligarchy miss opportunity racism and so forth that's the daily headlines do you see any difference between the bottom of the slide and the top prospect. not much and that's where we're headed. and then ther

we accept the findings from the ipcc.ons of dollars in renewable fuels and hydrogen and carbon capture and storage and reducing our own operations an building low carbon energy systems today. >> the u.n. climate report said it is now or never to address climate change. they said we're on a fast track to climate disaster. a third of pakistan is under water right now. so on a scale of one to ten, one being noted and ten being a five-alarm fire, where is your concern level about climb change. >> it is difficult to put these things on a scale. we take it seriously. and our objective is to supply a growing economy. we also need to keep the economy running and i think the instability we're seeing in certain markets around the world is a signal that we can't count on tomorrow's energy system until it is built. >> you've been at chevron your whole life. 40 years right? >> that is right. >> so you've seen a lot. i wonder, knowing what we know now, about the climate crisis, do you wish chevron and your peers have done more sooner l

>> the ipcc released a report which says the very obvious which is this is caused by the fossil fuelstry and we have to stop expanding the fossil fuel industry and yet world leaders, including this administration, keep calling for expansion of the fossil fuel industry. joe manchin, chuck schumer, the mount on the pipeline received about $300,000 this election cycle to fund the pipeline. there is huge pressure, corruption from the fossil fuel industry controlling politicians to expand the fossil fuel, taking is completely in the wrong direction. the science is so clear. 80% of global heating is called by burning fossil fuel. the rest is animal agriculture. you have to stop that, otherwise, all of the things we're saying, hurricanes, fires, flooding, heat waves, increasingly crop yield losses, increasing food prices which -- i mean, none of this will stop until we ramp down the fossil fuel industry. this is not a new normal, this is an escalator for basically a hellish planet we are leaving not just for young people and kids, but ourselves. people are dying more and more from climate-r

government scientists at the noaa and even becoprofessional alarmists, the ipcc, predict that5% hurricanes will become 25% less frequent throughout the twenty first century. e th >> oh, and that makes sensecane because the current atlantic hurricane season is the slowest one in a quarter century. so none of that is to downplay or minimize in any waywhat it' the savagery of hurricane ian or the sadness of what it's done to your fellow americans. it'sit's horrible, but it doese raise the question how exactly are you responsible for it?y well, of course, you're not in r any sense. you're not liable for that. you didn't do that. you're a normal person., you're grieving for the peoplenc who are just killed. you're not trying to score political points on their dea deaths. >> but don lemon steps into the breach, the breach betweenan noct and rhetoric with a brand new theory. donelon claims that storms may not have become more frequenve but they definitely become more , quote, intense. >> watch the w the science show listscience shows. it's undeniable what is happening. but listen a, let's talk ab

the latest report from the united nations and the governmental panel on climate change, the ipcc, is very clear and it is very foreboding. if the united states, china, russia, and the rest of the world do not act extremely aggressively in cutting carbon emissions, our planet will face enormous and irreversible damage in fact, the world that we will be leaving to our kids and to future generations will become increasingly unhealthy and uninhabitable. that's not bernie sanders. that is the virtual unanimous conclusion of the scientists who study this issue. but the truth is we don't need the scientists or another study to tell us what's happening. we see it with our own eyes here in the united states and all over the world. the american people today, and people throughout the globe, are seeing the devastating impact climate change is having on their communities and their families with their own eyes. that is what they are seeing right now as i speak. and, please understand, and maybe the most important point i want to make this morning is that everything being equal, what is happening