and stayed with francis graham. often when he visited the city, even francis graham, key advocate did for the acp. so that's kind of a fascinating thing that, you know, i talk about both in book, in the last book was kind in the ways that what we think of as being these camps were in constant with one another. good evening. thank you for doing difficult research to bring about such an interesting book. i had to questions. i first heard of mr. archibald graham key when i was reading the book white lies about walter frances white in acp i wanted to know you ever find research data that the graham keith sisters had any kind of with harriet tubman or william still and what what came about there there was any findings there. and i also wanted to know how come the grim key had the name graham key instead of their mother's name. so. oh, an interesting question. so, so nancy weston, according to her son, nancy weston, could neither read nor write. i always preface that this is according to her sons recollection and recollec

lindsey graham was doing behind the scenes, so christina bobb testifies to senator graham saying, well, get me your information, just give me 5 that voters, give me an example of illegal voting, give me a small snapshot that i can take and champion. what i hear here, and i am interested in your thoughts, this is lindsey graham playing them. this is lindsey graham saying, i am happy to go out and talk about how dead people voted. if you just give me a few examples, and knowing, i think you knew, that doesn't never come. >> i do think, alison, it's senator graham standpoint -- i will not do it just based on no facts, no representation, only your word and representation. give me anything. politicians do the, lawyers do that all the time, where they take some facts, something they can hang their hat on and kind of run with it and blow it up a bit. i think that is what senator graham is going to do, the subtle message in their. if you got nothing, leave me out of this, because i will not go out there and walk the plank and give the american public information if i cannot back anything up, a

and i think that's what senator graham was going to do. but the subtle message there is if you've got nothing, leave me out of the because i'm not going to go out there and i'm not going to walk the plank and give the american public information if i cannot back anything up, anything at all i think is the operative word there. >> that's how i read that. nick, then christina bobb did produce something and sent it other to senator graham. and the title of it was "chairman graham dead votes memo for your consideration." but strangely, he never did do it. so, obviously there was no there there. >> he did do part of it. let's look at what happened afterwards. in early -- i guess it was in december, a couple weeks before donald trump made that famous january 2nd call to brad raffensperger, the secretary of state of georgia, lindsey graham was in there talking about the same things with brad raffensperger. he was trying to pressure him. it wasn't the dead voters this time. it was the people who didn't really sign the absentee ballots, which was a

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she testified that lindsey graham told, again, mark meadows that graham would become a champion of the's fraud claims, all he needed was, quote, five dead voters. she recalls he he said, "give me, you know, an example of illegals voting. just give me a very small snapshot that i can take and champion." and this exchange, wolf, came just a few days before january 6th. but it shows the white house was trying to get some high-profile allies to amplify these false claims. but here's the kicker. his legal team actually followed up with graham. they gave him a memo titled "chairman graham dead votes memo. for your consideration." bobb testified graham didn't do anything with that. graham's office has not responded to our request for comment. but one of the big themes that we've taken away over the past week in all of these transcripts, wolf, is that all roads go through the former chief of staff mark meadows. a lot of this questionable conduct, these schemes that they were hatching. everything appearing to go through the former chief of staff. >> very interesting indeed. paula, we're also le

what do you make of senator lindsey graham there?gain, a time when you have a lot of money going into these races at this late juncture and the democrats out spending, probably what senator graham did with jamie harrison where he was out spent and begging people to contribute. >> lindsey graham and barack obama are not on par with each other but i think lindsey graham has been one of his most outspoken supporters and i personally don't think lindsey graham will really inspire that many people to turn out to vote. but it can't hurt him i guess. it's been lindsey graham and ted cruise really trying to send the message. we've seen them escorting him on his interviews. basically, clearly trying to send a message that he's going to do what we tell him to do. >> you know, he is going to vote the way we tell him to vote. and that's the message they're trying to get to the people that are feeling, maybe feeling a little squeamish about some of the stories that have come out about herschel walker and just saying ignore those stories. this is

but lindsey graham is in many ways being very true to his roots here. and using the sort of tired, bogeyman of voter fraud. which people here know, doesn't taint are elections in the south, to try to drill something up in georgia. and of course, the impact in many ways on the people who are working in the elections. and there's a moment in donald trump jr.'s transcript, where he's asked, do you realize that these sorts of claims that you're making, these false claims that they're inflicting a lot of pain on election workers. and he gives the response, of course what are you talking, about i'm not familiar with. that it comes full circle there. >> one of the other jaw-dropping revelations in these transcripts. is the plan to fire gina has double. i want to read this to all of you, and then will dive into it. alyssa farah told the committee, kash patel's the cia director for 14 minutes. but as an echo to the cool guy ideology, mister clerk, attorney general for a little longer than that. this is the transcript from marissa fara. i will share one thing tha

lindsey graham is looking for proof. whether people were looking for to. can be some proof and i will go out and talk about it. and i think later in that testimony it appears that lindsay khoramabad is said, hey, there is no proof here, i'm not going, for an average of anything with it. there was no there there. so there is a lot of testimony to read here. if you are tonight looking to spend the next couple of weeks reading through things, there is doing yeoman's job reading through these transcripts. but there are hundreds and hundreds of pages. i was going through some of it today and it is very interesting. there is acknowledgment on the capitol police as far as african televisions failures. i mean, things that i think a lot of viewers -- the guy who was kind of an fbi plant, allegedly. so lots of interesting things to read in their. but i think cassidy hutchinson was high point of this whole, you know, hearings. should i know my trump she testified. >> right, but i want to go back to what we learned today in this testimony. because, you know, david, yo

lindsey graham is gonna be stumping for herschel walker. i think mike pompeo was supposed to attend in some way because but a family emergency and can no longer attend. i wonder what you make of senator lindsey graham there to do this. >> i think you had a pretty big crowd of people throughout this election -- leader mcconnell was down there. so having lindsey graham come in, this strong trump allies, people that are trying to get out the base, people that can appeal to that element of the party. but i remember being down there for the 2008 runoff and it was sarah palin coming up to ramp up the crowd. this is something that you always try to do is pull out your best surrogates. that was the challenge of the democrat side. i think you had young jeezy and pei out there trying to get out the vote for the democrat. they're having president obama is a pretty big counterbalance and, republicans don't really have anybody to bring in when donald trump's on the sidelines. >> i know his playlist created included jeezy nti. this is a time when you've

-- for graham? hearing none, i move a resolution that will be displayed on the screen which grants ravers to rule 12 a, on february 3, 2024, new hampshire and nevada on february 6, georgia on february 13, and michigan on february 27. is there any further discussion? mr. mcdonald? >> it might be worth mentioning some of the conditions, in particular, emphasizing the presidents emphasis on expending -- expanding access to voting is worth mentioning. >> please, graham would you? >> thank you, david. all of the states that are being considered have robust no excuse early voting in place. with the exception of new hampshire which does have absentee voting but only with ace turn limited excuses -- with a certain limited excuses. it is taking all the steps necessary to show that they are moving to the date we have identified. in new hampshire, you will see there is night edition of -- there is an additional contingency in our waiver. which expands access to early voting in accordance with the values that t

senator graham was saying get your information. justyo give me five dead voters. givead me, you know, an examplef illegals voting. just give me a very small snapshot that i can take and champion. i thought of ruby freeman when i saw that and all of the extraordinary effort, the highest levels of the republican party, to manufacture fraud thac wasy, never there, joyce. >> and so this doesn't happen in a vacuum, for anyone who has worked particularly in the deep south, doing election law, for a period of decades, these are the same sorts of allegations that are made in every election, dead people are voting, people who are detitled to vote are voting and that's why democrats are winning, you hear those claims of fraud persistently, and very often republican legislatures, republican legislative majorities would use these very much unfounded claims of fraud to justify very restrictive measures that suppress voting. what happens here with lindsey graham and donald trump is a new evolution of course, of that fraud that is used in a much broader sense to perpetrate the b

. >> griff: will graham, vice president of the billy graham association joins us with his christmas messagerry christmas to you, your father, mother, wonderful family, what is the message in the graham household? >> good morning, griff and ashley, merry christmas on behalf of the graham family. it is all about jesus christ and how god came to rescue sinners like will graham and everyone else in this world. god said, i love people so much, i want to save them and he sent jesus, his son, into this world to live among him, he is emmanual. that is what christmas is about, when jeff mason came into this world to rescue humanity. >> ashley: will, your christmas special is releasing today online. where can we see it? >> thank you, yes, it is. will graham live.com. we'll be having a christmas program today. so people are more than welcome to join in. we'll have great music and some -- i will give a quick message about the true meaning of christmas and try to encourage people. this time can be stressful, we need peace and jesus is the prince of peace. one word we need today is peace in our country.

so graham crackers.y being plain and simple and nutritious, you eat those you would be curbed from these dark and immoral thoughts and cornflakes. harvey kellogg is directly influenced by graham a generation later, and he has the same idea corn flakes will stop essentially stop people having sex if they eat enough of them i should yeah i should point out the marketing department in the hands i think of his brother and they felt that wasn't a great angle to go with but that was his initial purpose at least. so. so this is a call for an american food culture that i would say is rooted in. the american evangelical tradition of sort of warning against backsliding, self-indulgence, and kind of equating all cultural behavior with moral. and that's not a coincidence. followers come out of the second great awakening. he inspires the seventh day adventist. it's joseph smith in the mormon church. come out of the same tradition and write mormons famously should not consume caffeine alcohol you know stimulants don't

graham was toying with this, not sure what to do.id evidence to go public with, and he was looking -- he wanted to help the cause. and he did help the cause. he didn't actually get what he needed, but he still started pounding the drum. this is so much information that's coming at us from these. it's actually like drinking out of several water hoses simultaneously. i look forward to studying the gram interview because he wasn't particularly cooperative, and this wasn't really a session. this is hearsay that we're dealing with. somebody that was called to give much more detailed testimony. >> that's why we're emphasizing this was testimony given by someone else. but i will say it also corroborates what i'm told by sources that many republicans on both sides on the house and in the senate, they were trying to -- they were asking trump's team, look, give us something to verify the claims that you're making publicly. now, their motivations for doing so, they could have scattered. but that was certainly in line with what was going on behi

graham, you're the only one who can handle this. if the board doesn't let you handle, i'm going to have to step down because i know i can't deal with it. so surma, the vice of the board who wasn't going to become chair for another year and a half or so, he kind of took over and he was a high powered corporate executive who was used to, you know, decisions and he was quoted saying behind closed doors in the board meeting, this is what we're going to do. we are not drinking kool-aid and any of you saw that press. you saw john surma there, all the talking. steve garvin sitting next to him, but looking dejected and then, as is often done in the media these days, all of the trustees, all of the supporters are sitting behind on camera. if we're all 100% behind this and i once the board made that decision and i can tell from notes i have from behind close, there are things that have had to have been shared with me that the board very quickly moved into a mode of circling wagons to use a common term, they we have to support each other. we h

so graham, that senator, he got a memo from the trump campaign team.e didn't find it plausible, didn't do anything with it but he too was one of these people who was very receptive to the idea of what donald trump wanted to do after the election. we're seeing that perspective now in these transcripts. >> and also the calls that graham was supposed to have with pence the day before january 6th. we also saw grisham, the former first lady chief of staff to first lady melania trump. did anything come from her t transcript? >> reporter: she was an aide to melania trump and witness to a few juicy conversations. the first lady at the told, she told the house select committee that she was saying how much melania didn't trust a lot of people. at times she was not even trusting donald trump jr. and his fiancee. didn't believe they may be acting in the best interest of her husband, the president, donald trump. she also said -- stephanie grisham would say i think they're giving him bad advice, i don't think it's smart, that was about rudy giuliani and sidney powel

so graham's campaign was sort of fresh, and refined ingredients. he specifically called out process flower and says process our take the nutrition out of the grain, which actually is correct. and so he's making the argument that this is a reason to eat, you know, brown and whole wheat flour, not processed white flower. graham is also close to several other more role reform movements of the era. he has many supporters amongst the abolitionists, feminist, temperance movements, his ideas, not in their entirety always, embraced by many prominent americans. a huge influence on catherine beecher, one of the great writers of the mid 19th century on the sort of domestic culture in america. john harvey kellogg, i've already mentioned. and i would say sort of, simultaneously progressive and backwards. you are trying to make a more perfect society by going to a pure simpler past. and again, the attention between the jacksonian and the gray ham food culture mirrors the larger political clashes between jackson on a lot of those reform movements that he opposed,

and graham, how long ago was your mother diagnosed? and what kind of a told that take finding that out for you and for her and for other members of your family. so she was diagnosed over 70 years ago now and it's been quite slow, but more sped up more recently. and i think the tool has been very, has go to, but mainly i meant to impact because you're, you're watching your loved one. i'm watching my mom a. ready sophie, the, we in front of me as affected all the family and friends watching that happen because there's nothing you can do. ready you feel very was and you know, you need to take care of i guessing because there's not a lot of funding in place to help caters and a lot. ready lake, my cell from us, the house in waste to do with thought bart, to super this approach to treating alzheimer's. this has been in the works of i understand it for over 30 years. why did it take this long and, and what's the difference between this form of treatment and other forms of treatment that have been attempted in the past? and that's a big quest

well, to discuss it, i am now joined by thomas graham, anger, director of the geneva center for security policy and former secretary general of the organization for security and cooperation in europe. is great to see you a great you talk to you and i have to express a double gratitude for being here in moscow because to be honest with you, we don't see many western visitors here these days. did you have any 2nd thoughts about coming here? because of, you know, reputational risks to yourself personally, in the organization that you're heading. them or advisors are back in or warned me about traveling to moscow at this time. but you know, i, i always leave in dialogue and dialogue, i think is but they really important in times of crisis. and so not coming to moscow was basically for the northern issue. after i got the invitation to the prestigious remark off readings. and i don't regret to have called me, i think i had the excellent discussions between the citing off the conference. but also, of course, taking advantage to talk to quite the number of important for presented this both withi

it really drew graham in and he love the access. he loved the ability he could call on his cell phone any other time the president of the united states. it's a fascinating story because it began to draw him away from his mentor, his partner, john mccain, with whom he had been so close. mccain despised trump, thought trump was dangerous and incompetent and terrible for the country and didn't understand why lindsey graham was pulling closer. lindsey graham would tell you first of all he is a lot of fun, he would tell people he could moderate trump, he could guide trump and help him be a better president, but he never convinced john mccain. even on his deathbed, john mccain in lindsey graham were fighting over this. john mccain was dying of brain cancer and there was this moment in arizona where lindsey graham had gone down to be with john in his last months of life. why do you have to do this? why do you play golf with him? why do you have to lie about why he's a good golfer? he said look, you forgive the vietnamese, why can't i forgi

so we beat this to that unraveling office architecture, graham. and if i'm interested here just for a 2nd, because you're trying to be very neutral and diplomatic, and i understand why, but i was doing the piece and the d conflicting efforts service when we are trying to sort of smooth the lines. so diplomatically here, because it's not just that the a, the, the random unraveling, isn't it, it's the west taking a decision, making a decision that they want to pursue certain policies that when strongly against russian interest and those russian interest and concerns were very clearly communicated for many, many number of years. are we doing reality? we didn't choose the service when we just describe it as single unraveling it. i would say the agreement here with that it was for a beat. some of these are you paler saw off this or arms control like architecture? it was indeed the united states stopped pulled out of it or up to what i was at a c, v. a try to provides an alternative platforms for instance, a structured dialogue. create that if i a decis

himself are republicans, these calls that i was taking from lindsey graham. i was interpreting what he was saying. as him asking me to toss out lawfully asked ballots. it really feels more and more like lindsey graham was unenthusiastic participant and donald trump's team. >> cynthia, i want you to take a listen to what representative adam schiff said tonight about what he thinks should happen to trump's enabler's, like -- take a listen. >> those that should be broke the law should be prosecuted. i feel the justice department will track down all the leads we have provided. -- bond reasonable. doubt they will hesitate to indict some of these enablers of this crime against democracy. others for which there may not be some evidence of prosecution. i hope that they will be charged by association with donald trump, by their participation in the scheme. >> cynthia, we talk a lot about donald trump for very good reason when it comes to the conversation, i wonder how you think the doj is approaching these other key figures, these enablers as congressman schiff calls

it really drew graham in and he love the access. he loved the ability he could call on his cell phone any other time the president of the united states. it's a fascinating story because it began to draw him away from his mentor, his partner, john mccain, with whom he had been so close. mccain despised trump, thought trump was dangerous and incompetent and terrible for the country and didn't understand why lindsey graham was pulling closer. lindsey graham would tell you first of all he is a lot of fun, he would tell people he could moderate trump, he could guide trump and help him be a better president, but he never convinced john mccain. even on his deathbed, john mccain in lindsey graham were fighting over this. john mccain was dying of brain cancer and there was this moment in arizona where lindsey graham had gone down to be with john in his last months of life. why do you have to do this? why do you play golf with him? why do you have to lie about why he's a good golfer? he said look, you forgive the vietnamese, why can't i forgi

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