karen mccarthy's bait to become us. house speaker has become long is of voting process in 164 years. after 3 days and 11 grants are republican has failed to get enough support from his own party. john hendern has more from capitol hill in 5 votes just over the course of today. kevin mccarthy is not gained a single vote. that block of 20 voters plus one voting to present has remained unchanged. that the only thing that changes is who they vote for, taking advantage of the fact that you don't have to be a member of congress to be speaker. one member of that block proposed that donald trump become this house speaker. he's not likely to get a lot of votes, but of the people who are not kevin mccarthy and are republicans. the votes have remained 20. chinese authorities have urged people to limit the number of trips and gatherings ahead of the lunar new year, but they have stopped short of banding travel all together. china is facing scrutiny over its respond to the surge in cove. it 19 infections. ukraine spray in tears dism

karen mccarthy has the influence that corporations have over legislation. so what they're hoping is that there will be more of an influence of members of congress over drafting legislation that they will have more influence over committees and the sort of selection and committees and, and also that lobbyists will have less power as so this is something that even democrats may like ultimately, and so this is the deal that seems to be worked out. we're watching very carefully when this 12th vote happens. if kevin mccarthy will get the sort of 4 extra votes that he's looking for. and ultimately, if he does this will mean that he will finally sort of overcome this bruising battle that we have not seen since $1821.00 when it is gone to a 12 ballot in order to get the speakers gavel and kimberly, of course services. another important date and us history for very different reasons significant because this of course, the 2nd anniversary since the storming of the capital isn't it. we can see some live pictures now of fer oh, ranger politicians, bear out capital home

we also know that karen mccarthy who isa soares trying to become how speaker he's. been silent on this. how much of an impact do you think someone like elise defend. external kevin mccarthy speaking out could have given the fact that santos has already said he's going to take his seat in congress. >> george santos is the republican nominee. he is the responsibility of the republican majority house to hold him accountable. at least a fonda who is the chair of the republican conference. you remember the new york delegation. not only indoors but raised $100,000. the republican leadership knew that george santos was a fraud. and said and did nothing. and so as far as i'm concerned. the republican leadership is complicit in the fraud that george santos has perpetrated against the public. >> and we're tied about republicans and their liability on this. i also want to point out that there is a democrat endorsed candidate, robert zimmerman, he lost to george santos by something like eight points. it's hard to reconcile the effect of the -- as well as zimmerman's own campaign

mccarthy for house speaker. i suggest giving the young representatives what they want only if it benefits their districts. we go to karenfort worth, texas supporting kevin mccarthy. caller: hi. are you there? host: yes, go ahead. caller: good morning. i am in support of kevin mccarthy. i did not know him too well the last couple of years but i got to listen to some of his speeches and i like him. i like what he had to say. these people that are still yelling for trump, they need to shut up. he ain't going to be back in. it does not matter whether he supports that guy or not. his influence does not matter. only mccarthy matters. the 20 that are against him, they are being spoiled brats. from what i understand -- and i may be wrong, so tell me if i am -- but one of their main holdouts is the fact they want to bring back some deal where it only takes one person to stand up and nominate to vacate the seat? host: yes, that is one of the points of contention. but kevin mccarthy had offered the number at five and not one from the reporting i have seen. that has been an area of contention and negotiation over the rules of the h

. >> karen, would democrats have an motion to intervene to get kevin mccarthy over the finish line atome point? >> certainly not tomorrow. to david's point, think about what that contrast is going to look like. you're going to have on one side of the screen, president biden, the vice president, a very somber day and remembrances. then you have the nominating speeches for hakeem, i agree with david. then you've got the holdout. is it five? is it six? is it seven? is it eight? we saw earlier today, biggs doing fundraising emails. they see tomorrow actually as an opportunity to continue to say, we are the ones who are stopping kevin mccarthy. we are the ones who are standing up for whatever it is they think they're standing up for. and again, i think we need to take a step back here. i mean, the other thing -- the reason i don't think democrats can be in a position yet to help kevin mccarthy is, i think we have to acknowledge, this is a complete failure of kevin mccarthy's leadership abilities. the fact that we are being -- you heard him a to manu, we did negotiate. we have been negotiat

mccarthy for house speaker. i suggest giving the young representatives what they want only if it benefits their districts. we go to karenrt worth, texas supporting kevin mccarthy. caller: hi. are you there? host: yes, go ahead. caller: good morning. i am in support of kevin mccarthy. i did not know him too well the last couple of years but i got to listen to some of his speeches and i like him. i like what he had to say. these people that are still yelling for trump, they need to shut up. he ain't going to be back in. it does not matter whether he supports that guy or not. his influence does not matter. only mccarthy matters. the 20 that are against him, they are being spoiled brats. from what i understand -- and i may be wrong, so tell me if i am -- but one of their main holdouts is the fact they want to bring back some deal where it only takes one person to stand up and nominate to vacate the seat? host: yes, that is one of the points of contention. but kevin mccarthy had offered the number at five and not one from the reporting i have seen. that has been an area of contention and negotiation over the rules of the hou

karen, emily, my thanks to both of you. right now, our shortest break. we turn to the other special counsel probe with real news about heat on trump officials and kevin mccarthy, seeming to want to go along with the lies of a no-name rookie. why? we're back in a minute. we're back in a minute >>> for the first time ever, tonight we can report the justice department of the united states has distinct and separate empowered special counsels probing a current and former president, who are both slated to run for president in 2024. special counsel smith is probing the possible crimes for both classified document issues and the insurrection that relate to trump and/or his aides, and having report on the news on the biden front, it happens that in this story, set of stories i was discussing with our experts, we have brand new reports coming out about this probe. take a look. smith obtaining secret files from the january 6th committee it thath not released to the public, which is interesting considering the report aimed at releasing more rather than less and plenty of stuff in the addendums, including voluminous transcripts. so what they held back could be sensitive.